“I was undecided between Romney and not voting”


Hot Air:

“I was not undecided between Obama and Romney. I was undecided between Romney and not voting.”

That’s the problem for any incumbent President in the final days of the election. They get almost four years to make the case for another term. If voters are still undecided with three weeks left to go, the best an incumbent can hope to do is convince them not to vote at all. That has been the explicit campaign strategy of Team Obama since Romney wrapped up the nomination in May — to make him so toxic that the protest vote against Obama stays home.

Unfortunately, that strategy collapsed after the first debate, and its collapse made the strategy obvious enough to be offensive. Last night, Obama finally decided to show some passion about wanting a second term, but he still hasn’t explained why he wants it or what he’ll do with it, even during last night’s debate. The only case he offered was that he wasn’t Mitt Romney, the same argument that Obama used before the first debate. And he spent most of the evening speaking with an oddly high-pitched tone, as if he was offended that he even needed to go that far.

Obama gave those undecideds no reason last night to vote for him or to stay home on Election Day. That’s why nothing that happened in the debate will change the trajectory of the race.


As I’ve said before, we’re not the ones that are going to decide this election. Our votes count, just like everyone else’s, but some voters count more than others.

If you are reading this your mind is pretty well made up. Chances are it’s been made up for a while now. There is really nothing either candidate is gonna do or say that will change your mind.

The people who will decide this election are the ones who live in key swing states and are either undecided or are willing to change their minds in the next three weeks. It’s kinda scary when you think about it.

I recognize that I am biased – I have formed strong opinions about both candidates. So when I watch a debate it’s difficult to guess how those undecided swing voters will react. It doesn’t matter who I think won the debate, it matter who they think won.

But Romney didn’t need to win, he just needed to look presidential. I believe he succeeded.

The polls in the next few days will tell if I’m right.

BTW – Even though it won’t make any difference here in California, I’m going to vote for Romney. Fuck Obama.


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105 Responses to “I was undecided between Romney and not voting”

  1. votermom says:

    I was just watching that, and notice near the end, when the Obama-voting woman in the back starts talking about “women’s rights” the women in the middle row kind of roll their eyes.

  2. myiq2xu says:

    The final debate is next Monday and will be the same format as the first one but with Bob Scheiffer moderating.

    Mitt will get a chance to talk about Libya again. I hope Bob S. asks Obama about the cover-up.

  3. swanspirit says:

    I am in the same boat here in Maryland ; which is a blue state , and of course I am voting for Romney . I am just grateful we have a candidate we can elect who can actually do the job ,

    THe moderation of these debates is a joke, Candy was so biased , she never should have been chosen.

    • kanaughty says:

      Depends what county you are in. In frederick county where i voted in the last prez election, it was red went for mccain palin. We just didn’t have enough of a population for it to matter though in the end. So voting in a blue state against someone and not staying home may surprise. Especially if it turned out to be the reagan landslide this time around.

      • This is exactly why, if someone really cares about the future and thinks Obama is a disaster, they should go third party or stay home this time. I think people will be surprised. I also think most minds are made, and some people are not being honestly forthcoming about what they’ll do in the voting booth. A whole other set will change their minds in the actual booth. It doesn’t matter to me., People own their votes, and whatever they have to do to feel good about it.

  4. mcnorman says:

    panelists calls out zero…”bullshittin’ the public”

    Could have been the klown.

  5. yttik says:

    I think the debate may have even made some Obama supporters uncomfortable. The amount of cheating required just to get their candidate to hold his own was pretty obvious. In the end I think some will change their views about their guy. Hope and change is gone and it’s been replaced by this petulant child that can’t answer a direct question.

    • myiq2xu says:

      I thought it was very effective for Romney when he asked Obama specific questions and Obama evaded them.

      • cj says:

        I like when he went after Obama on his pension. I wish he had been allowed to keep that little exchange going.

        The problem with directly questioning a bullshitter like Obama is that all you’re going to get is some smart ass reply.

      • ME says:

        Can you remind me what the direct question was please? I was half watching the debates/tweets and taking care of my children. I know on the Libya issue the consensus is that Romney could have hit him harder and that Obama never answered the question of who denied security. Were there other direct questions asked? And I think the pension issue was a total distraction, who cares about his pension?

      • angienc says:

        Obama evaded answering, Candy jumped in to save Obama & MSM declaring it made *Romney* look bad.
        *headdesk*
        I can’t believe it, but Spiro Agnew was right — this elite group of beltway insiders have *no* connection to the average American.

      • A bunch of Obamacrats were complaining this morning that Romney broke the rules by asking Obama direct questions.

  6. votermom says:

    • britgirls says:

      Yep! Obama was just playing to his base. He didn’t lay out a plan for the next four years at all. Even worse … he sounded like he was trying to convince us that things are getting better. Who’s gonna believe that? We’re out here living it!!! This was all reflected in the CNN poll breakdown where Romney was seen as having the better plan for the economy, healthcare (that had to hurt!), foreign policy … etc.

    • Mary says:

      Don’t get too excited re Halperin. In another tape from Morning Joe, Halperin said Mitt was rude to Obama and Candy, and that Obama’s Bengazi answer shut Mitt down, closing the topic for any more discussion.

      Can you believe that shit?

  7. votermom says:

    • britgirls says:

      Binder = being organized. Fucking dipshits. Sick of the stupid nitpicking.

      Anyway … hope Romney puts out an ad highlighting great endorsements like this from his former Secretary of Workforce Dev.

      Bet she was in the binder. 🙂

  8. myiq2xu says:

    I need a little hair of the frog so y’all behave until I get back.

    • tommy says:

      Ha, I knew you’d have a lousy hangover after all that heavy duty drinking cum blogging. The next 20 days are going to be critical.

  9. votermom says:

  10. jjmtacoma says:

    I’m undecided – probably Romney – but I am more “anyone but Obama”. I think I will vote for Romney and still consider myself undecided.

    I don’t think Romney is evil (huge advantage over Obama – in my mind) and I don’t think he will pursue a conservative social agenda… I think he seems more focused on economics and jobs.

    My state is pretty solidly blue. I have actually seen people wearing Obama buttons and stuff! I can’t imagine being “for” Obama at this point – *maybe* they are loyal Dems who don’t read the news but thinks everything must be fine.

  11. swanspirit says:

    • pghpuma says:

      …as though they had pre-arranged signals for when Candy should step in to shore up Obama’s swaddled cocoon.

  12. pipermn says:

    My last comment before going to lose my shirt at the dealership.

    What stands out for me in regards to last night’s debate is that obama can’t do the job / or present his ‘vision’ by himself WITHOUT someone else carrying his water and riding roughshod over his opponent.

    That is not a leader but as John Smart says just a grocery store clerk.

    Klown – you did well last night so you have earned your rest for the rest of today.

  13. T says:

    I am undecided also. And live in Washington state so unfortunately, my vote doesn’t really count. I have a whole lot more respect for undecided voters at this point in my life, having realized that being undecided does not mean you’re stupid or uninformed. What it means is that the candidates have not offered a clear enough choice. And my decision is based, not on the lies they tell on the campaign trail, but on their actual record and policies. Of course, if the party platforms of these candidates actually mirrored their policies, the choice would be clear. But the 2% less evil reality leaves us a lot of quibbling room….

    • T says:

      And so my vote comes down to “what message do I want to send”. I have always been of the mind that you should vote the OUTCOME you want. I want Obama to lose so the logical vote is for Romney. Unfortunately, Obama will win my state no matter what I do. So do I want to increase Romney’s count, even tho he will lose electorally in my state, probably leading to the meme that the country MUST be moving farther to the right? No. Probably, most likely, a 3rd party vote is in my future. The actuality may depend on how pissed off I am when I open my ballot….

      • cj says:

        That’s why I was going to vote for Stein, just to avoid the conclusion that the country was moving right. Unfortunately, AZ is still pink on a lot of electoral maps, so it’s not worth taking a chance & I’ll vote for Romney.

    • jjmtacoma says:

      I’m in WA too. I think there are a lot of us “undecided” voters here.

  14. DandyTiger says:

    Funny joke poster thingy on FB seen: Picture of Big Dawg saying: “Stop the debate. I want to hear more about this binder.” Funny. Kind of sad Dems think it’s a joke to be organized and to actually hire women executives. But then, they’re kind of a joke now, so it fits.

  15. swanspirit says:

    AND another “Womens” organization is supporting the guy who calls women sweetie , not because of Romney , but because of Ryan . Amy Siskind just told me she would have voted Romney if “he had picked Condi ” Jeez Louize

    • britgirls says:

      Whaaaat? Why? Because of his views on abortion? I thought that was off the table for The New Agenda. Isn’t that the whole point of their organization?

    • Constance says:

      Is Siskind throwing New Agenda behind Obama or just supporting him herself? Because I thought New Agenda was specifically dedicated to not attaching themselves to either political party. If she writes a pro Obama article she looses followers.

  16. carol haka says:

    Romney is giving a foreign policy speech – i think on Friday. He should be able to cover it all then. 👿

    • votermom says:

      I thought his FP speech was the one in VA last week?

    • angienc says:

      He gave foreign policy speech in VA last week — he will be closer to Reagan with peace through strength but with more soft power/diplomacy & with clear conditions on were our foreign aid (i.e., if they don’t do right but us, such as protecting our people & embassies, they get cut off).

  17. angienc says:

    Ha ha! Dumb progs (who like the uterus to the face in the LadyParts ads) think Obama “won” last night but all they have today is Romney’s awkward “binders of women” phrase. Meanwhile, Romney has this:

  18. Constance says:

    CNN needs to apologize for Crowleys screw up in jumping in to save Obama with the wrong “facts” and they need to do it throughout the day. If they don’t, they have no one to blame for the fact that their viewership is so low but themselves. If they don’t show some integrity on this they can not be trusted on anything.

    • Not only did Crowley jump in to help Obama, she gave him 2 extra times to speak, which I heard added up to 3-4 mins. nah, she didn’t help him at all.

      • cj says:

        And the timing of her interruptions was suspect too. It seemed like everytime Romney was zeroing in for the kill, she interrupted and threw him off target.

        • angienc says:

          Another reason people should vote for Romney IMO — it’s as much a vote against ABO as it is against the MSM.
          Just my opinion!

        • cj says:

          No, I agree with you. I wish there was a slot on the ballot that allowed you to vote the press out, but a Romney win would definitely send a signal that the country was pushing back.

    • blowme0bama says:

      They CAN’T be trusted on anything. The only thing that will motivate them to highlight the error or express mea culpa would be if they somehow think it would be a good idea to position themselves more favorably with a Romney presidency.

    • swanspirit says:

      Candy was on with Soledad this morning justifying what she did . She is fine with her performance , no apology will be forthcoming.

  19. Constance says:

    Here is a link to a one minute ad which a old friend sent to me. I think it makes it’s point.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?feature=player_embedded&v=-Czo5Vf8KZs

  20. votermom says:

  21. wmcb says:

  22. Constance says:

    I am surprised Yahoo actually has a article on Crowleys Libya screw up on their top articles. I would have expected it to get swept under the rug. I can understand reporters being biased but what I don’t get is editors who allow the bias into their news venue. When they do that they sacrifice their integrity and their profits.

    http://news.yahoo.com/sidelines-debate-moderator-crowley-becomes-part-story-061946975.html

    • cj says:

      I don’t get it either, but I think access to power trumps everything. Which is why it’s going to be so entertaining watching the rats jump ship when Obama’s sent packing.

  23. wmcb says:

    • angienc says:

      He’s Orthodox too!
      I am now officially waiting Sununu’s marriage out.

    • a much better debate than last night!!!! I remember when Sununu was the enemy—–but I’ve fallen in love with him!!! 🙂

    • swanspirit says:

      Angie has to share 🙂 I think Sununu was Benjamin Franklin in a former life 😉

    • Lulu says:

      What is with her giving the stink eye to anyone who disagrees with her? She has two expressions, pretend smart and stink eye. Another reason to demand not to have to pay for CNN on cable.

    • ME says:

      She’s campaigning for Obama. Look how passionate she is, look at her facial expressions! My mother in law watches CNN ALL day long. I now understand why she is voting for Obama in Nov.

      I hate media bias, from either side. It insults my intelligence. Please just tell me what is going on, give me the news. Let me decide and analyze it for myself.

      • tommy says:

        Huh? You’ve just chosen to become endangered species, ME. Thats like most of us here at TCH. Witness how few of us there are, compared to the tribalists on both sides of the aisle. I KNOW that most dems view us as an anti-Obama blog, and some think that we’re republicans disguised as Clinton supporters. We’re neither. We dislike both GWB and BHO, irrespective of their political party affiliations. To me, we call out the bu**shit on both sides as soon as we see it. We knew that O had no real world experience and was not ready to be POTUS, and we are right. Once he loses, he will be another failed democratic Preezy (a la Carter). Then, maybe the dems would once again follow the Clintonian way, that could eventually get us 2 terms, and be deemed successful.

        • ME says:

          Some of the PUMA’s have switched “sides” (most notably HillBuzz) but I do agree that a majority of you are awake independents.

  24. I had thought I would vote for Jill Stein- as a protest against the two party system. Now there are too many polling places showing the race tightening up here in PA. Though it will STILL come down to who wins the districts in and around Philly. Praying for a huge weather event to hit the eastern side of the state on election day. It really really sucks that Philly and the surrounding areas control all 20 electoral votes.
    Now I am back to wtf? Definitely NOT Obama- I made that decision back in 08- even before the 5/31 event.

  25. tommy says:

    A question to the undecideds – Would you rather vote for the dude who gave his dog a lift on the top of his car, or for the dude who ate one.

  26. Lulu says:

    The vehemence of the reactions is directly proportional to how deep in the poo they find themselves. Worried, stressed, crazy people overreact.

  27. votermom says:

    Cory Booker still doesn’t realize how out of place he is in teh Dem party – here he tries to elevate his own side

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