Karma is a bitch

Netroots Bloggers Mark 10th Birthday in Decline and Struggling for Survival

Susie Madrak started blogging in 2001, just after Sept. 11, back when the country was hurtling head-first into war and the blogosphere was a mysterious frontier on the far edges of the Internet.

“It was infuriating,” Madrak recalled of the political moment that spurred her to start throwing her own commentary online. “I could see that they were fabricating the reasons for war. Blogging was what I did instead of throwing a brick through the window.”

She started her own site, called Suburban Guerilla, and it soon became one of the boldface blogs of the “Netroots,” a new network of engaged political progressives giving a voice they thought was missing in the mainstream press. In time, millions like her took to their own keyboards, and thousands of similar sites bloomed. The Netroots became the world’s first online grassroots political organizing effort, and the goal was nothing less than to remake the American political system by pushing Democrats leftward.

“We didn’t trust the traditional progressive movement—labor, the issue orgs, the party—because of a record of failure and futility,” writes Markos Moulitsas, founder of Daily Kos, in an email. “In turn, they didn’t like us petulant upstarts. A popular sentiment was, ‘What are those bloggers going to do, hit George Bush in the head with a laptop?’”

Now, however, the Netroots, which were once thought to do to the political left what evangelical Christianity was supposed to do to the professional right, are 10 years old. In that time they vaulted Howard Dean to within a scream of the presidency, helped Democrats take both houses of Congress and several statehouses across the country, and gave the party what many in the movement believed to be some much-needed spine.

But with another critical election two weeks away, politicians, political operatives, and even the bloggers themselves say the Netroots are a whisper of what they were only four years ago, a dial-up modem in a high-speed world, and that the brigade of laptop-wielding revolutionaries who stormed the convention castle four years ago have all but disappeared as a force within the Democratic Party.

Excuse me for a moment.


Thank you.

But wait! There’s more.

The not-quite on the money quote:

The beginning of the end, many of the current and former bloggers say, came during the great Democratic primary Civil War of 2007–08. Until then, the Netroots had been remarkably cohesive, lining up behind promising congressional and Senate candidates en masse to raise money and boost name recognition. Since Democrats had been rendered to minor-party status, disagreements were papered over.

But then came the wave election of 2006, and suddenly the presidency was in sight. But the Netroots, like most Democrats, were divided among Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, and John Edwards. During that campaign, the political blogosphere on the left became less known for sparking offline activism and more known for epic fights among those with divided loyalties.

“I supported John Edwards,” Madrak said. “And the Obama people were very vehement about what they thought about it. And they up and left the site if they thought you were being irrational about Obama. I still don’t know where they went. They just up and disappeared.”

Susie is too kind. I blame Obama and his supporters. The “Obama people” didn’t just leave a few sites. The Obots bullied and abused Hillary supporters. They attacked anyone who disagreed with them and literally drove people away from the online communities they had called home for years. They used various tricks to manipulate ratings at DailyKos and other blogs, and got people banned from blogs for the sin of not supporting Obama. They waged a scorched-earth campaign and now they are wondering where their dreams went and where all the ashes came from.

The big “A-list” bloggers either participated in this jihad against Hillary supporters or turned a blind eye to it. Many of the A-listers sacrificed their alleged principles for money. Many hoped to be power players in the new administration. Some were rewarded with paying jobs in the media they claimed to despise. Most of them got the cold shoulder after the election was over.

Was this unavoidable?

Consider the right-wing blogosphere. In 2008 they were defeated and demoralized. Many of them began to unite behind the Tea Party, but many did not. They participated in a big mid-term victory. Then came the 2012 GOP primaries.

The right-wing bloggers never united behind a single candidate. Sarah Palin had a large and vocal group of supporters, but as things unfolded she chose not to run. Rick Perry, Newt Gingrich, Michele Bachmann, Herman Cain, Rick Santorum and Ron Paul all had sizeable groups of supporters. In the end, Mitt Romney won the nomination and the GOP is united behind him.

Things got a little heated at times, but at no time was there an online bloodbath between the various groups comparable to the left in 2007-2008.

Barack Obama is without a doubt the most divisive politician in my lifetime.

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99 Responses to Karma is a bitch

  1. That t-shirt. bwaahahahahha

  2. myiq2xu says:

    What is really ironic is the Obama supporters are still convinced that they are the smartest, best-informed people in the country.

  3. angienc says:

    OT — this is some of the funniest shit I’ve ever seen. Brainchild of Chris Loesch and Steven Crowder h/t LegalInsurrection

    PS — Proves *only* David Bowie had the charisma to pull of the glam-rock look.

  4. DM says:

    “And the Obama people were very vehement about what they thought about it. And they up and left the site if they thought you were being irrational about Obama. I still don’t know where they went. They just up and disappeared.”

    No Susie, we did not “disappeared”, though that’s what happens in authoritarian countries, and it’s what Obama wanted and still wants to do with anyone who wasn’t or is an Obama supporter. We just moved on with a greater understanding about the political system and that “the New [Chicago] Democratic Party coalition is younger. It is more urban, as well as suburban, and we don’t have to just rely on white blue-collar voters and Hispanics.” (Brazile, 2008)

  5. Constance says:

    They pretty much drove the sane people out of the Democrat party so I don’t see how they go about rebuilding a healthy Democratic party. Even after a 2012 loss the Obots will cling on to whatever remains of the party.

  6. PUMAs revenge. We left, taking our clout with us, and now we’re about to deliver an even bigger spanking. It’s going to be satisfying to no end.

  7. tommy says:

    The problem is that I was never loony-left. And Hillary Clinton was my candidate. A one-time senator with a history of voting ‘present’ was never ever gonna satisfy me, whatever his image, aura or words. 4 years ago, I was 37 years old, too old to be conned by honeyed words like hope&change and yes we can. Thats just style, no substance. HRC had less style, but a whole boatload full of substance.

    • britgirls says:

      Agree wholeheartedly. Except I was 38 four years ago. 😛

      • TorchWood says:

        40. And you notice that many in our age group have fully functioning bullsh*t detectors. Guess that’s why we don’t get as much attention as the boomers and millennials.

    • angienc says:

      Thank you — I wasn’t the loony left either. Like Constance wrote above — the vile progs drove all the sane people out of the party.

      • swanspirit says:

        I got the message from Donna Brazile loud and clear; and then there was the smugwe don’t need you but ” you don’t have anyplace to go ” which was really galling , and made me definitely happy when I found Sarah Palin

    • gxm17 says:

      Wait one darn minute. I am the “looney-left” and Hillary was my candidate too. The vile progs are not liberals or “lefties.” They’re vile progs. Don’t lump me in with that bunch!

  8. Angry Black Guy/Suge_Grits says:

    And he’s winning!!!!!!

  9. DM says:

    A few of the regular bloggers don’t want to admit how a movement, the Netroots was that, could disintegrate so quickly at an identifiable moment. For the Netroots, Bush was the uniter, and Obama the divider.

    “Since Obama, the cohesion has splintered. The Netroots are now just a random collection of bloggers.”

  10. tommy says:

    And in reality, although the conservatives and repubs have built up online strength, IMO they’re just upto 22% of the prog strength. Another lesson I learnt was never to seriously mess around with the repubs. Online, they maybe small and like wimps, but come election day, they kick prog a**es to kingdom come, and most likely will also give the progs an enema. Thats what happened in 2010. It wasn’t just a shellacking, it was an enema.

  11. HELENK says:

    Many like me were lifetime democrats who voted, contributed, and volunteered for the democratic party. we were basically told to ” get lost you are not needed”. per donna brazille we should “stay home”.
    well many of us did not stay home we changed to Independent and some became republicans. We no longer vote, contribute or volunteer for the democratic party . Most will never do so again. I do not know what morons took over the democratic party but they do not understand salesmanship or politics and in the end it will kill the party

    • Skipper V. says:

      My story exactly!!!

      You have brilliantly summarized my last 4 years!!

      Thank you for keeping me sane as I get the daily barrage of photos of binnders and bayonets and Big bird derogatory emails from my sad desperate “democratic” friends.

      They are scared
      The Obamacrats must go so the Democrats have a fighting chance

    • gxm17 says:

      Me three. I spent three decades giving the Democratic Party my time, money, and vote, starting when I was 17. (Phone canvassing and working the polls because I was a month shy of 18 and wouldn’t be able to vote). In 2008, they told me to fuck off. So I did. They can consider me gone for good.

  12. “being irrational about Obama”

    this – from the left. BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

    mirror, mirror, on the wall
    whose irrational after all?

  13. angienc says:

    I hate to link to Buzzfeed — especially to a post by that Andrew who blocked me FOR NO REASON on twitter, but Obama said today (in a slam against Romney for “flip flopping” but is really about Romney not being the strawman mix of Gordon Gekko/Dr. Strangelove that Obama said he was) that “I’m the same guy today that I’ve been for the last 10-12 years — check the tape!” so Buzzfeed did. They’ve missed A LOT (such as his FISA vote & pledge to only take public campaign financing in 2008 primary) but it’s a good start:


  14. Must be the kid who humped the cardboard cutout of Hillary, played Beer-pong, invented the Fauxbama Presidential Seal, “The Office of the President Elect” and Romnesia…to name a few.

  15. DM says:

    O/T There’s another “Snowtober” storm on the horizon.

    In a worst case scenario, the economic (and political) impact could be huge.

    With the storm hitting during the days just prior to Halloween but after the weekend, the threat of the storm will likely drive strong retail traffic across the northeast and portions of the east coast this weekend. On a comparable basis, this may actually be beneficial as the snowtober event last year had a larger weekend impact.

  16. votermom says:

    Jayzuz. CNN says women vote with their lady hormones

    • Shorter CNN: Married women are UberPrudes; single women are UberSluts–guess which ones we prefer? Please vote with your vajayjays, ladies. This message has been brought to you by the Federation to End Marriage in the Interest of Slut-Fucking.

    • Talk about 50 years of women’s hard work being undone! ‘We vote with our hormones.’ Thanks for intimating that my reasoning is dictated by my physiology. I can throw away my women’s studies books in the trash. You @$#%.

  17. britgirls says:

    Help … I keep ending up in moderation.

  18. Bank of America into Democrats for $32 million between Obama’s $15 million loan and the new DCCC loan. They must know that they are not too big fail on Romney’s watch. http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1012/82833.html

  19. carol haka says:

    Thank you Sarah Palin! 🙂

  20. HELENK says:

    Chad Pergram ‏@ChadPergram

    On conference call with Democratic Caucus, Pelosi sets ldrship elections for 11/29. This fuels speculation about her potential departure.

    • DM says:

      Bye, Pelosi. Do, please, let the door hit your ass, and hopefully break your frozen smile.

    • DM says:

      Republican candidates for the senate are asshats. If it weren’t for their stupidity, the GOP would have bagged the senate already.

    • DM says:

      Bush didn’t improve it either. Those were 8 wasted years. Bill Clinton tried, but he failed. The situation in the ME has not changed since Carter. The ME problems go back to the Israeli Exodus from Egypt, and the U.S. ain’t gonna fix it either.

  21. votermom says:

    Washington Times also saying that we were gunwalking guns from Libya to Syria

    The evidence suggests that the Obama administration has not simply been engaging, legitimating, enriching and emboldening Islamists who have taken over or are ascendant in much of the Middle East. Starting in March 2011, when American diplomat J. Christopher Stevens was designated the liaison to the “opposition” in Libya, the Obama administration has been arming them, including jihadists like Abdelhakim Belhadj, leader of the al Qaeda franchise known as the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group.

  22. Constance says:

    Here is an article from the Seattle Times saying a suspect in the Libya terrorist attack has been killed in Egypt. Weird.


  23. I wish this election were over!!! You can’t imagine what it’s like living in Ohio:


    • DM says:

      I feel sorry for the people of OH and all the battleground states.

      • leslie says:

        Me, too. In the past 2 weeks we drove through PA, OH, IA, and CO – among other states (betrween VT – CO). I don’t know how people stand turning on their teevees (or radios). Each night it was a different state and the ads were non-stop. It’s too bad that people who vote early aren’t rewarded with political ad free television.That would get most people to the polls . (It would get the people I know to vote early.)

  24. angienc says:

    Follow up to Allred hearing this morning — when ex-husband’s attorneys asked for a continuance until tomorrow to review testimony, this is reported to have transpired:

    During the hearing, Allred had the temerity ask the Judge to make an expedited decision because “there is an election coming up.” The MA Judge rounded sharply on Allred, scolding her and stating that she, the Judge, would not deny a party due process because of an election. Allred was deflated, and the Judge granted an adjournment.


    BTW — forget how the hell can Allred be “practicing” in MA (some idiot sponsored her pro hac vice), how the hell has Allred not been disbarred?

  25. Constance says:

    I hear it’s awful from my husbands relatives. Vote early if you can, somehow they seem to know you’ve voted and stop calling all the time. Then don’t watch TV only read or watch Netflix movies. It restores your peace.

  26. HELENK says:


    this is a sad state of affairs for this country

    considering all the stories about the TSA workers, they must hire some of their screeners from the sex offenders lists

    • DM says:

      I’ve gone through the pat-downs because I refuse the x-ray machines. There’s no groping, but the edge of the hand, with a sliding motion, moves on the leg to the crotch. It’s uncomfortable for both parties. I think that anyone who cannot go through the pat-down, should avoid flying.

      I’m usually thanked for wearing the right attire (tight fitting dancers clothes) that makes it easier for the pat-down.

  27. carol haka says:

    carol haka, on September 16, 2012 at 10:42 am said:

    Two questions no one is asking:

    1. Why didn’t Romney start receiving his National Security Briefings immediately after receiving the nomination?

    Answer: They knew it was going down in some aspect, and let it happen because this is the shit storm they wanted. Couldn’t alert Romney. 👿

    2. When do we get the news the weapons used to attack and kill our Personnel in Libya was American issued?

    Answer: Soon I hope. 👿

    carol haka, on September 16, 2012 at 8:14 am said:

    Bill can horndog all he wants, but it can’t stand up there in my face and take down this country with his lies about the competence and character of President Hussein. 👿 Hillary is a lying liar as she stands in complete disrespect of the bodies she helped put in the ground this week. I call total bullshit that she believes some fucking video caitused the Middle EAST to ignite on 9/11. And, I call treason on the questioning of the film maker, and her continuing to stand in front of this country and not call for Presidennt Hussein’s impeachment and prosecution. 👿 I guess my requirements to earn respect are different. It requires telling the truth at any cost. Palin 2016

    carol haka, on September 19, 2012 at 8:22 pm said:

    I asked the question 8 days ago, why isn’t anyone talking about who armed the Libyan rebels knowing full well it would turn out our weapons would be found to be the weapons used to kill our own Americans. 👿 breaking on Gateway Pundit: American armed and trained! 👿 well Hillary, what do you and Hussein have to say about that? 👿 WE NEVER FUCKING LEARN! Mika’s dad probably was advising on exactly how to arm and train a terrorist group since he has had so much experience! Asshole!

    • DM says:

      I agree that Hillary has, as Secretary of State been supporting Hussein’s FP, but she’s not been responsible for arming anyone because those are intel operations. I think you are way off base on blaming Hillary for any weapons that went to the wrong hands. That’s Petraeus and Panetta area of responsibility.

      Get real.

      • carol haka says:

        She may not have handed the weapons to them, but if she knew it was going on, then she is responsible for not reporting it. You don’t get to cover your ears and eyes and sing la, la, la, la, la, la ………….. 👿

        • DM says:

          And so did Ambassador Stevens. Right? Intel operations are guided by people who are supposed to know what they are doing. Some would even call them professionals. Hell, I think Ambassador Stevens was in the thick of it. So don’t get all pissy about what Hillary knew.

        • DM says:

          And one more thing. You don’t know what Hillary knew. We may guess, but in the end you don’t know. You don’t know if she objected and was overruled. We don’t know if Ambassador Stevens objected and he was overruled by the “professionals”.

        • carol haka says:

          Ambassador Stevens has not stood multiple times before the American people and blamed something else for the attacks. He was in the coffin behind Hillary as she lied her ass off as to the reason for his and 3 others bodies behind her. She gets no pass no matter how much someone loved, loves or had loved her. She is part of the coverup. Period! 👿

        • DM says:

          Fine. Blame Hillary for lying. But your whole premise is that somehow she’s responsible for the arms operations that was done by intel operations is way off. That’s b.s. and if you should know that much. That you want to blame Hillary for whatever, that’s your choice. Hell I’ve read Larry Johnson with his “Hillary has blood on her hands” bull shit. He should know better. The ones who armed those people and okayed the whole stupid thing were intel people. Larry Johnson wants to pretend otherwise.

        • DM says:

          That’s b.s. and if you should know that much

  28. carol haka says:


    ‘People Will Go to Prison’: Beck Breaks Down Obama’s ‘Lying’ on Libya in Fiery Segment

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    Glenn Beck Responds to White House Benghazi Memos | Ansar al Sharia

    (Photo: TheBlaze TV)

    Glenn Beck took to his radio show Wednesday morning for a fiery denouncement of the administration’s handling of the crisis in Libya.

    “This president is lying to you about Benghazi in such [a] spectacular fashion that I believe people will go to prison. This is impeachable. The president might go to prison for this one,” he said. “What’s happening in Benghazi is so far beyond lying, it is ​staggering.”

    While politicians are known for twisting words into half truths, Beck added that has never seen an administration persist in such a boldfaced lie when American lives are at stake, or seen a media so content to let it slide.

    He continued, going over the newly-released documents that prove the administration was alerted to what was really happening in Libya before spinning a story about a YouTube video:

    Now we have [the] beginning of the truth on Benghazi. Five days into the Benghazi scandal, when no one was saying anything, I presented a theory…I told you that [Ambassador Stevens] was involved in running guns, and he was running guns to al-Qaeda in Libya, and he was running guns through Turkey into Syria. And whether it was a deal that went bad, I don’t know, but that’s what happened. And the White House knew…And while everyone else was arguing about whether it was a videotape or not, we were furthering the story.

    Today we have evidence that is staggering. We now have a memo posted [at] TheBlaze…to the White House two hours after the attacks began. Last night on the TV show I laid it out again…exactly what happened, when. At 1:00, or 12:54 in the afternoon on September 11, the White House was warned that somebody was watching the Benghazi safe house– and so you know, do not let any member of the press get away with calling this an embassy safe house. It is not. It was a CIA safe house. Now why, in the most dangerous place in one of the most dangerous parts of the world, on Sept. 11…why would he be at a CIA safe house? …We now know he was having dinner with the general counsel of Turkey. [Emphasis added]

    Beck reminded that it has been widely reported that President Obama has a close relationship with the Turkish prime minister, before continuing:

    An hour after that, the Turkish ambassador leaves through the front door and the front gate, unmolested. Now you tell me– why was the Turkish general counsel there? …Why was it so important on Sept. 11 to go to the most dangerous city, into a CIA safe house?

    An hour after he leaves, the fight begins. We now know that the White House– somebody, the military, somebody, sent a drone. So there was a live video feed of what was going on. They’re watching it in the State Department, they’re watching it at the Pentagon, they’re watching it at Langley, and they’re watching it in the Situation Room. At 5:00 in the afternoon, Leon Panetta has a meeting with the president of the United States. The first email comes at 4:05. So the Secretary of Defense arrives at the White House to have a meeting with the president 55 minutes after the Situation Room and everybody else gets an email saying, ‘Libya, the safe house is under attack.” ​[Emphasis added]

    Glenn Beck Responds to White House Benghazi Memos | Ansar al Sharia

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    Beck proceeded to read several more emails explaining how our personnel in Benghazi were missing and under attack, before he got to one timestamped at 6:07. According to the memo, Ansar al-Sharia had claimed responsibility for the attack and– though he isn’t sure– Beck said it’s possible that Ansar al-Sharia was one of the groups that we gave arms and funding to during the war to overthrow Gaddhafi.

    “This is why the White House covered, because our ambassador was killed by [guys] we were running guns to, and we are still running guns today.”

    He then read an international report from Russia Today saying U.S. Stinger Missiles are in the hands of Syrian rebels, adding that the New York Times has also reported that we are using the Muslim Brotherhood to arm the rebels in Syria.

    Beck concluded the segment:

    “This president is on the wrong side. It is so crystal clear…let’s just take it one step at a time. The President of the United States of America, the Secretary of Defense, the Secretary of State have all lied to you. They lied to you and said, ‘this might be a video, we don’t have all the information, the information is still sketchy, it’s confusing,’…We now have the documents that came into the Situation Room saying, ‘There’s an attack, they’re watching.’ Then, we have the documents that we had a live video feed in the Situation Room, so they could see that there was no protest. ​Then there are the documents– and there’s now 13, with this new one– there’s now 13 different documents saying it’s a terrorist attack, and here’s the group that’s doing it. And they lied to you.”

    White House Press Secretary Jay Carney responded to questions about the newly-released emails by saying there was “all sorts of information” coming in at the time.

  29. carol haka says:

    I’m just going out on a limb here thinking that being in Libya and supplying guns for the rebels across multiple borders is probably a no no……. 👿 And before you go all crazy telling me this is coming from Glenn Beck, rethink that philosophy as he did more than anyone to out Obama, even Sarah Palin.


  30. ME says:

    YES! Greg Abbot attorney general of the state of Texas has declared that the UN will NOT be allowed to monitor elections in this state. If they get within 100 feet of a polling place they will be arrested. The USA doesn’t need monitors, we are not a banana republic.

  31. angienc says:

    NYT revives “spontaneous protest over video” story line today:

    Beyond the political issues, the film may carry the risk of associating Mr. Obama with any backlash in a Muslim world already inflamed by the YouTube trailer for an insulting film portrayal of its prophet. In September riots erupted in Libya, Egypt and elsewhere as Muslim crowds reacted violently to what they perceived as the unforgivable insults of a scratch production, ‘The Innocence of Muslims,’ some of which was posted on YouTube.


    Oh, and on Bret Baier (which yes, I watch now regularly since he’s actually covering this story) Mara Liasson of NPR was on the panel & she seriously blamed the MSM’s lack of coverage on this story on Romney NOT talking about it.

    We’ve come full circle.

    • carol haka says:

      Romney is getting security briefings now. I think he has shut up so when the shit finally and fully hits the fan, he will be able to take action against all of the bad actors without it looking like it’s political. He’s just letting it play out and letting them hopefully “hang” themselves. Treason for all of them. 👿 The media already knows what happened. Congress knows what happen. Those that have been paying attention know we are being lied to. 👿

      • angienc says:

        Yeah, everyone who is paying attention knows they are being lied to.
        Meanwhile, Biden & Obama are actually going around on their campaign stops telling people this election boils down to “who do you trust?”

      • DM says:

        Carol, I think that you believe what you say, but just remember that Tenet got a medal from W.

      • TorchWood says:

        Agree. He was probably briefed about what happened before the last debate, but had to keep his mouth shut because now he knew TOO much as it is/was a national security issue. That’s my guess as to why he didn’t bring it up in the debate.

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