Kevin Drum:
Obama’s Ground Game Advantage May Not Be As Big As It Looks
There’s been a disconnect in the ground games of the major parties for some time. Democrats tend to rely on paid, professional operations, while Republicans rely more on volunteer efforts, largely from evangelical churches. This is something that actually works in the Republicans’ favor, since volunteer efforts from friends and neighbors tend to be more effective at switching votes than professional phone banks. (Also cheaper.) On the other hand, the professional organizations are often more thorough, and are better at the actual logistics of getting people to the polls.
The Mormon church has 14 million member, most of them in the United States. It is a church that emphasizes missionary work – knocking on doors and spreading the word. They are very organized, with up-to-date membership lists containing addresses and phone numbers. And for the first time in history one of the two major party nominees is a member of their church.
The Mormons are just one church. Yeah, the IRS says churches can’t mix religion and politics, but how do you stop them? What happens when preachers and pastors across the nation stand behind their pulpits the next two weekends and exhort their congregations to vote on November 6th?
How effective is the Republican ground game?
Remember Chik-fil-A Appreciation Day? It started out as a protest against Chik-fil-A organized by Democrats and interest groups associated with the Democratic party. The only news coverage was of that protest.
In what turned out to be an unplanned field test of the GOP ground game a counter-protest was organized, mostly through churches and the social media. On August 1, Chick-fil-A restaurants across the country reported an average of 29.9 percent more sales and 367 more customers than on a typical Wednesday. It was the single busiest day in Chik-fil-A history.
My prediction: On November 6th, Mitt Romney will win Ohio, but he won’t need it. He will easily win in excess of 300 electoral votes. And he’ll do it without spending millions of dollars to astroturf up a bunch of supporters either.
Oh, I sincerely hope you’re right. My friends are coming over to watch the returns come in. I don’t drink ………. but I may have to have a bottle of tequila handy to celebrate !!
My hilldog – PumaSF already announced she was spending the night as she’d be consuming heavy amounts of ice cold vodka.
I don’t drink much anymore either, but when Obama loses, I’ll drink myself silly.
Fingers crossed, toes crossed, and holding my breath.
Still stuck on Benghazi regardless of the thread topic, *weak grin*
Stormin’ Mormon. Apt title indeed.
Gallup agrees – massive GOP turnout predicted
http://weaselzippers.us/2012/10/26/huge-gallup-predicts-massive-gop-turnout/
flat out lie for political purposes is running away with it.
Better question: How did it go from a spontaneous protest about a video to a situation so dangerous they couldn’t risk sending in Delta Force to rescue Americans?
Excellent question!
Dick Morris, Hillbuzz, and you are predicting over 300 EV’s. I’ll just speak it into existence with you. HOPE and CHANGE on 11/6/12
The swing state polls don’t look good for Romney. Its a worrying factor. The national polls are pretty consistent, in Rs favour. You would have thought that there would be trickle-down pollanomics from the nationals to the states in favour of Romney, but so far, I don’t see it happening. Its gonna be a nail-biter allright.
Read this:
http://www.redstate.com/2012/10/26/why-i-think-obama-is-toast/
I haven’t read today’s threads yet, so I don’t know if anyone has mentioned it yet, but today is Hillary’s birthday.
65 today, right? I bet she’s had better birthdays – Obama ruins everything…
ayup
No kidding. I think 0 is screwing her and the country via the Benghazi attacks. Somehow I don’t think she’s played a nefarious role. I think it’s worth watching, and I’m grateful to Issa, Fox, the CIA, whomever is going to clarify it.
In the meantime, Happy Birthday Hillary.
IBSP
I agree with you myiq. My instinct tells me it’s going to be a big win for Romney. I think we’re looking at 2010 level turnouts: around10% less Dems than 2008 and around 10% more Repubs than 2008. If you skew polls (usually D+8) with those, you get a big blowout.
If Romney has closed the gender gap and is winning with independents there is no way he can lose.
If as many people have lied to pollsters as I have this year, there really is no way to know anything! Look at the ground game – vote – and WATCH THE POLLS FOR FRAUD.
A good indication are the differences we’re seeing in crowd sizes.
Yup.
What’s up with this?
Reverend Jesse Jackson arrested http://www.indiaglitz.com/channels/telugu/article/87632.html
That is part of a fauxrage they are trying to tie to Mitt Romney.
Don’t know how long it’s been up there, but 0 comments so far.
Obama supporters completely disagree with his policies….. when told they are Romney’s policies. When told it’s Romney, it’s “sick and immoral.” When they find out these are actual Obama policies, the excuses for The One start.
http://resisttyranny.net/2012/10/25/obama-supporters-actually-hate-obamas-policies/
Close but not quite award:
Read that earlier. A lot of truth in it.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/158399/2012-electorate-looks-like-2008.aspx
Be careful to note that while the composition looks the same, the dynamics have changed significantly.
So basically, it’s Obama whose at a severe disadvantage, despite what you’ve been hearing.
This is exactly what I’ve been saying all along. Obama has to turn out his exact 2008 coalition at the same volume or higher than 2008 to make up for GOP enthusiasm this year.
how convenient military ballots bound for afghanistan burned in plane crash. saw on fox ticker tape
Holy crap. Maybe the most hostile interview I’ve ever seen Obama face.
http://www.politico.com/politico44/2012/10/obama-election-has-nothing-to-do-with-libya-deaths-147415.html
I love this guy (in a totally heterosexual way):
You know you’ve been pwned when gay guys call you a sissy.
LOL, what can I say, I love Hillbuzz. He always makes me laugh.
Oregon is a trip. They aren’t really a Dem state, they’re an extremist state. I don’t think there are any undecideds in Oregon. You’re far left or far right. Nearly 3/4 of the state is Republican, but the population density in one area is what causes them to go Dem. Bush won almost every county in Oregon, but lost the state because there are more people in the urban areas. Oregon also has the only two openly gay state supreme court justices in the nation.
Kevin is right, Oregon and Ohio have almost nothing in common. There’s a perception that Ohio is a swing state, that people are deeply divided, but that’s mostly media hype. Oregon really is the most politically polarized state in the country. LOL, people have actually studied it because it’s so fascinating.
You are absolutely right. Urban Oregon and Oregon anywhere that’s more than 10 miles from the I-5 are two completely different states, politically.
I’m an Independent in Fl. and have been most of my voting life. I’ve received phones calls weekly from the Romney campaign for over a month and zero from Obama’s. Its actually surprised me, but they probably know I’m a lost cause for them..
“The Mormon church has 14 million member…”
I think this election has not only mobilized Mormons, but religious people of all stripes and many other civic groups, too. I’ve lost track of all the times I’ve heard, “this is the most important election of our lifetime. Your country depends on it.” Those people aren’t telling anybody who to vote for, but it’s pretty clear to me that they aren’t endorsing Obama.
Hubby and I have been having a laugh trying to translate all the “non political, non partisan” messages on sign boards all over town. It’s like, “we’re not telling you who to vote for but if you give us another four years like we just had, we know where you live and we’ll come after you.”
There’s a huge groundswell of support for Romney going on and I live in a very dark blue state.
Honk, yttik! The religious right are solidly behind Romney. They’ll be coming out in unprecedented nos. I’m happy that Rs faith isn’t an issue anymore to them.
It stopped being an issue on the right when the left attacked him on it.
Dandy, have any idea why gallup is swinging all over the place? I’m glad that its in our favour, but the wild swings they’ve undergone makes their polling a wee bit unreliable.
Tommy, I think Romney’s support has been more volatile than Obama’s numbers, but I don’t see Gallup or other polls swinging all over the place. Compared to 2004, this election has been relatively stable.
I think Gallup has been pretty steady. It tends to only swing a point at a time with the daily. It had R up by 7, then 6, .. down to 3 for two or three days, now it’s going back up again. But in general, polls can move around based on sampling and randomness.
I was going to make the joke that they don’t call it “gallup” for nothing. But that would be very silly.
DT, you did make a joke. lol
I know. I was being meta. It’s what all the hip kids are doing.
Thanks, DM and dandy.
How pathetic is my life?
It’s Friday night and I’m sitting home alone, sober and watching Bewitched (the movie)
That’s almost as bad as watching Cowboys and Aliens for the third time. Oh wait.
DT, I have a question for you. How many points do you think Benghazi is hurting Obama? I get the feeling that it’s not hurting him more than one percent. Will that change? Other than FN, the media doesn’t want to touch that tragedy.
I doubt that it will change any minds in the short term.
Do obot websites discuss Benghazi? I only visit one, and it has zero, nada, discussions on Benghazi.
I agree with myiq, I don’t think it’s effecting undecided people or changing any minds. Sadly.
It’s about #obamanoids
🙂
Obama, Romney line up elite lawyers for potential election disputes
http://news.yahoo.com/obama-romney-line-elite-lawyers-potential-election-disputes-050408188.html
I don’t think it will come to that. But if it does, I’m going on a three month drunk binge so I don’t know it’s happening.
Lol, dandy.
This race is gonna drive me nuts. A couple of months, I spontaneously promised myself that I’d stop smoking and drinking on Oct 29th. Jeez, thats looking highly implausible now. But I made a promise, dammit. Lol
That’s not a big problem. Stop smoking and drinking for one day. Once that’s done, you’ve fulfilled your promise. I had a teacher that advised me to always go for success, no matter how small.
Here is another idea. Write down on one page the reasons you want to quit drinking and smoking. Put that in your pocket, and when you feel like smoking or drinking, read the paper to give the courage to not do it for at least 2 hours or how many hours you feel you can keep your promise. Do this again and again, always making sure you are setting yourself for success. If you smoke or drink after you fulfilled your promise, you did not fail. That’s what matters most, that you don’t fail.
I was never a smoker, but I can tell you from experience that it’s really easy to quit drinking. I’ve done it lots of times.
Romney will win WI, NH, FL, NC, VA and CO. Romney will have 271 electoral votes when he wins those battleground states. I hope he gets OH, but I don’t think he’ll need it.
VA and NH are just about doable, but CO and WI, I don’t know.
Thanks, DM and dandy.
Good luck, and start now, not on the 29th. Did you see the movie Looper? You change the future when you change right now.
Just saw it last night, DM and the illogic of the plot has been bugging me ever since, even though I liked the movie overall. Thanks for distilling the actual meaning down for me!
VA and NH are just about doable, but CO and WI, I don’t know.
CO and WI are Romney’s. RCP has CO as a tie, and it would be a few points for Romney if it weren’t for the PPP 4 point poll.
WI is showing a small Obama edge, but it would be closer without the Marist poll. I don’t know how that poll selects its sample, but all Marist polls give Obama huge leads. It doesn’t matter what state, the Marist poll will be an outlier.
WI is very close and it will tip to Romney soon.
Here is another piece of data to support my WI prediction. Take a look at the recall election. Marquette last poll had Governor Scott at 52 and Barrette at 45. The final result was 53 to 46. Marquette has Obama at 49 and Romney at 48. That’s a tie. More important is the change between the recent and the prior poll. Marquette gave Obama an 11 point spread in September. That 11 point vanished to one point. That’s how far Romney has caught up with Obama in WI.
WI is almost 90% white and Romney has a huge lead among whites.
An AP poll says that Americans are more racist now than in 2008 election. (snark)
http://news.yahoo.com/ap-poll-majority-harbor-prejudice-against-blacks-073551680–election.html
I Just don’t trust polls like these .
http://www.examiner.com/article/mitt-romney-vs-barack-obama-heavily-skewed-swing-state-polls-1?cid=db_articles