Will Sandy Save Barry?

Obama tries to look Preezy-dential


You know you were thinking the same thing – will Sandy save Barry’s ass?

He sure hopes so. He’s running around posing for photo-ops that make him look large and in charge. But will it be enough, or is it too little, too late?

I vote for too little, too late. Hurricane relief is generally not something we associate with the federal government. It’s really a state and local thing. And the people who need the relief aren’t watching television right now.

What do you think?


Meanwhile, here’s a couple headlines for you:

Romney Ohio campaign event turns into storm relief effort

MSNBC Ridicules Romney for Collecting Food and Supplies for Sandy Victims


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66 Responses to Will Sandy Save Barry?

  1. myiq2xu says:

    I don’t want to sound callous but so far I haven’t seen any shocking storm damage. I’ve seen trees down, some flooding and some damaged buildings. The worst thing so far was those burned houses in Queens.

    But we see stuff like that several times a year.

    They really hyped Sandy as a monster storm but it hasn’t lived up to the hype imho

    • cj says:

      It’s pretty bad. I’ve seen pics of houses pushed off their foundations, parts of NJ’s coastline look obliterated, with sand dunes 4 ft high filling up main roads. Big $$$ to repair the subway system & millions and millions without electricty.

      But that said, it’s not a Bush bullhorn moment when the nation was desparately looking for POTUS to lead the way. Bloomberg pretty much told Obama not to get IN the way, lol.

    • 49erDweet says:

      I would argue the widespread volume of damages is greater by X factors, which makes it more significant.

    • DM says:

      38 dead, last time I saw. That’s a powerful hurricane.

    • JohnSmart says:

      The damage is bad. The long island town burning down was shocking on TV.

      I have been thinking about the question of Sandy. It’s very possible the storm will make a small difference and a small difference may be all that matters.

    • wyntre says:

      NYC has been immobilized. Without the subway system operating the city is at a standstill. No telling when it will be running. Could be 5 to 10 days.

      Same for the Path which links NJ and NY. Estimate of 10 days to get that back in service.

      Additionally several of the tunnels under the East River are still out as is LIRR.

      Limited bus service – holiday schedule =- starts this evening but that’s just a drop in the bucket.

      There is now way for millions of people to get to work That’s a disaster.

      • Lizzy says:

        Schools are also closed. They are predicting that power will be out for 7 to 10 days. Millions of customers are without power in the region. Damage was from the storm suurge. I’m in central Queens and we had little rain or flooding; I know other areas did have heavy rain but we were lucky. Winds were very bad. Anywhere near water had severe flooding. Obama cannot provide timely aid to to those hurt by the storm.

    • swanspirit says:

      Don’t make me doubt your self assessment of your IQ. Sandy affected almost 20 states , with extreme weather , including everything from hurricane strength winds , historic flooding , and a blizzard . The NY subway is flooded , millions of people without power , and a clean up of epic proportions will be required .
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Sandy

      • cj says:

        No power & it’s damned cold in the northeast now. My heart goes out to everyone suffering from the affects of this storm.

    • votermom says:

      It was not as bad as it could have been – I am very thankful that it hit land before high tide.
      But for those that got hit, it is really bad.

  2. gram cracker says:

    Rove said earlier something to the effect that most of the northeast blue states that are affected by Sandy are not likely to have their outcomes changed. He said turnout in southwest VA, coal country, which presumably favors Romney may be less due to the deep snow. Storm recovery in northern VA, Obama country, may be similarly depress voter turnout. But he also thought that since the election is still a week away Sandy may not ultimately have much affect in VA.

    I think since BO is counting on early GOTV efforts his turnout may be more affected than Romney’s, particularly in places like Philly. BO needs early voting since they haul voters in every day. They can’t drag them all in on Tues.

  3. gxm17 says:

    I live in Northern Virginia and, IMO, no. Sandy won’t save him. We lost power for only a few hours in my neck of the woods. My daughter surmised, and I think she’s right, that the derecho in June took down any trees that were gonna come down. Even the nature path behind our house, which backs to parkland woods, was clear this morning.

    • kanaughty says:

      a little off topic but to gxm, so you said you lived in loudoun county, well, i lived in frederick county md for 2 years in point of rocks. it is beautiful there. i miss it… you could go to dc or baltimore so quickly so there was so much to do there. we also went to gettysburg 2 times because it was just that amazing. we went down into leesburg (?) to go to super target and costco all in one trip. in md, you couldn’t be alcohol in grocery stores, so if we wanted one trip we went down to leesburg one stop shopping… love that place and miss it.

      • kanaughty says:

        ps. historic downtown frederick was so cute with the river walk and all the restaurants and dog friendly stores. there were always people on the streets down there. we spent a lot of time there especially at the dog park.

    • gxm17 says:

      kanaughty, I love Point of Rocks. I always tell my husband (when we’re driving up 15N) that’s where I want to live. It is beautiful out this way. Our house backs to a nature reserve in Algonkian Park. We hike down to the Bird Sanctuary and I marvel at how lucky I am to have all this out my back door. Even my city slicker mother loves it here and has settled in marvelously. And soon we’ll have the Metro stop 15 minutes away in Reston so you can’t beat the convenience.

  4. trist says:

    ““I think that this is just another moment where you see the clear striking difference between a president who has a heart for the American people and someone who simply wants to be president of the United States,” said Mayor Reed”

    This part of the MSNBC story actually made me laugh out loud!

    • DM says:

      Trist, I think that Mayor Reed has a point. It’s at times like these that people see how two candidates respond to an emergency. I’m satisfied with the way Romney has risen to the challenge. He’s in a more difficult situation than Obama. The question of course is whether people will see him as genuine or as a politician. I’m not in position to make that judgement. It doesn’t matter what he does; I’m not voting for him.

      Trist, sorry I keep messing up your name yesterday.

  5. Somebody says:

    If the storm makes any difference it will be due to the media. The media is already out there slamming Romney for saying he wouldn’t rule out cutting funding to FEMA……they conveniently forget to mention that POTUS sequestration that POTUS signed into law cuts 900 million…….I’m sure that’s just an oversight on the part of the media though…..sarc

    Speaking of the media I hear Angrier Mitchell over at MSNBO is criticizing Romney for the donations he’s gathering, saying money is what the red cross needs not canned goods.

    In the words of Rahm……”Never let a good crisis go to waste”. It appears the media hacks are simpatico. Hopefully O will let his narcissism get the better him as he usually does. That’s bound to happen with as many photo ops as the campaign is undoubtedly trying to squeeze in……Obama unplugged is always good for some gaffes.

    • JohnSmart says:

      I agree with this. The media is going all out to use the storm to help Obama. MSNBC today was simply beyond the pale.

      • Rangoon78 says:

        So Christie – who’s the face most seen in coverage of Sandy, shows the viewers that Romney was right: the governors can lead in disasters:

        On MSNBC’s “Morning Joe,” Christie said “the president has been all over this, and he deserves great credit. He gave me his number at the White House and told me to call him if I needed anything and he absolutely means it, and it’s been very good working with the president and his administration.”
        On CNN’s “Starting Point with Soledad O’Brien,” Christie added that Obama “has been incredibly supportive and helpful to our state, and not once did he bring up the election.”
        http://www.boston.com/politicalintelligence/2012/10/30/chris-christie-fierce-obama-critic-praises-president-response-hurricane-sandy/0JUUf3NDsg6GuUleJr20XJ/story.html

        NJ Gov. Chris Christie Lauded for Storm Efforts‎
        2 hours ago
        New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie has earned high marks for his handling of the unprecedented disaster his state has witnessed in the aftermath …
        ABC News (blog)536 related articles

        …the physically imposing 50-year-old Christie has become the most prominent political image of the deadly storm
        http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/10/30/us-storm-sandy-christie-idUSBRE89T1Q020121030
        Chris Christie’s moment

        Today, CNN carried much of his noon press conference live. Warnings about evacuating ASAP were delivered in what the anchor termed “his typically blunt style.”

        “If it looks stupid, it is stupid, and you’re going to wind up hurting yourselves and others,” Christie said in that unique way that he says things.

        Then, he asked to speak directly to children watching at home: “Remain calm. The adults are taking care of business. Don’t be scared.”

        http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/christie_chronicles/Chris-Christies-moment.html

  6. myiq2xu says:

    LAT:

    Warning that “this storm is not yet over,” President Obama vowed that his administration would pull out all the stops to get aid to those hit by Hurricane Sandy.

    There is “no excuse for inaction,” Obama said after a brief unscheduled visit to Red Cross headquarters in Washington. “I want you to cut through red tape; I want you to cut through the bureaucracy. There is no excuse for inaction at this point.”

    Obama has jumped off the campaign trail to monitor federal response to the massive storm. And the White House has made sure that the president and his efforts to help remain visible.

    So what are they gonna do, hand out wads of cash to anyone who asks?

    This isn’t Obama’s first rodeo hurricane. It isn’t even the first one this year. Shouldn’t all the problems of red tape and bureaucracy been solved already?

    But nonetheless, there has to be some control over the dispersal of resources. That means paperwork and an approval process.

    • 49erDweet says:

      ……availability of aid depends on the recipient’s voter registration status.

    • Somebody says:

      “There is no excuse for inaction”? Hmmm, I wonder if Dougherty and Woods felt that way on 9-11?

      Obama also said “We’re Americans, we leave noone behind”…….hmmm unless they’re in Libya, eh Barry?

      Myiq you bring up a good point this isn’t Obama’s first rodeo. I’m curious did he sit around in the situation room during the others? A little compare and contrast might be in order.

  7. trist says:

    OT:
    BREAKING…. Disney has just confirmed that it has agreed to acquire George Lucas‘ Lucasfilm Ltd, and that includes rights to the Star Wars franchise that will now continue on. The companies have targeted a 2015 release for Star Wars: Episode 7, with Episode 8 and Episode 9 to follow as the the long-term plan is to release a new feature every two or three years. “The last Star Wars movie release was 2005’s Revenge Of The Sith – and we believe there’s substantial pent-up demand”, Disney said. The deal also includes rights to the Indiana Jones franchise.
    BREAKING: ‘Star Wars’ Returns

    And here I thought Lucas and Spielberg had done all they could to destroy those respective franchises. Le sigh…yet another piece of my happy childhood memories is goes up in ashes.

    • myiq2xu says:

      Disney could hardly do worse than Lucas.

      • Underwhelmed says:

        You’d think not … but then, there’s the fourth Pirates of the Caribbean movie.

      • trist says:

        “Disney could hardly do worse than Lucas.”

        3 words Myiq….The Black Hole

        Although, I will give them credit for making a movie that still creeps me out. No not because of the bad acting or cheesy special effects, but the killer robot Maximilian, he gets to me. How he glides across a scene, the cold “stare” if you can call it that. I still get scared of that thing. >_< So they at least got that much right!

  8. fif says:

    The AP is so nauseating:
    Romney, GOP suddenly plunging onto Democratic turf

    Of the nine states where the two men have spent more than $1 billion in advertising since June, Romney is in the strongest position in North Carolina. But public and internal campaign polls show he’s locked in stubbornly tight battles in Colorado, Florida, New Hampshire, Nevada and Virginia and is fighting to overtake Obama’s advantage in crucial Ohio as well as Iowa and Wisconsin.

    [What anonymous internal polls are these?]

    Obama’s team cast Romney’s moves into the three states, which have trended Democrat for more than 20 years, as a desperate act by a candidate who hasn’t locked up the states he needs for a White House win.

    “They understand they’re not going to be able to win Ohio and now they’re getting desperate and want to be able to put other states in play,” Messina said. “We’re going to win Pennsylvania, but we aren’t taking anything for granted.”

    Other Republicans joined Democrats in saying that Romney options are shrinking and he had no choice but to find different paths to victory, and had the money to do it.

    “If they didn’t have so much money, they wouldn’t be able to do something with so little chance of success,” said Tad Devine, top electoral strategist for Democratic nominee Al Gore in 2000 and John Kerry in 2004.

    http://apnews.myway.com/article/20121030/DA2854680.html

    They make it sound like Obama has it in the bag, and back it up with opinions from winners like Gore & Kerry strategists (cough cough).

  9. honoracarroll says:

    I disagree that the storm isn’t huge. NYC and NJ are going to be rebuilding for a long time. (I enjoyed summers at my relatives homes in Breezy Point so the loss in that community breaks my heart.) But the reality is that Obama was going to win those states anyway. Everyone else will move on. I live in Maryland and we had damage, but tomorrow we will we talking about the Ravens, that is the way the world works. If Obama thinks that he is going to ride this he is crazy. He is hoping this will stop the Benghazi talk and I think he is right, but I do not think it will be enough to save his sorry a@@.

    • leslie says:

      Although Sandy leads the stories on Greta, and most likely hannity, et al, Benghazi is the very next story. it won’t go away. especially as long as Hannity is on the air. (I cannot stand listening to him/his show, so I mostly don’t. But he is like a dog with a bone on this story. Good for him.)

      • gram cracker says:

        Lindsay Graham and Bolton are asking good questions about Benghazi on Greta. Senator Graham has long served as a JAG officer and frequently travels to the ME. He is sharp and knows what questions to ask.

        What has BO done to the Democratic party that I now value Bolton’s and Graham’s insights and commentary? And to think I was enraged when Bolton was a Bush recess appointment.

        • leslie says:

          OMG gram cracker, I know just what you mean. I can’t believe I’m watching FOX these past months. And John Sununu is awesome – I wouldn’t have said that 6-7 years ago, either. It’s like opposite day every day here.

  10. elliesmom says:

    I don’t think Sandy is going to make a difference for those of us who actually experienced the storm. The heavily hit areas were all going to vote for Obama anyway. The rest of us are hit by a least one storm a year that leaves us with tree limbs down and no power. Whether it plays to Obama’s favor outside the storm area depends on how the media covers the story and whether people buy what they say.

  11. driguana says:

    The low point so far to me has been the prog media swiftly boating Romney with a FEMA statement he made back in June 2011. In essence, I agree with Romney on that issue….states should be more in control of disaster relief…..in fact, they already are…don’t see lots of FEMA activity right now but I guess that comes later. So far state and local governments seem to have done a great job.

  12. DM says:

    My $.02 is that those who suffered because of the hurricane will have the most headaches when they file papers with insurance and deal with FEMA weeks and months from now. Whatever help is given right now, is coming from organizations like the Red Cross and local church organizations. The federal government can’t help much at this point. It’s not like with Katrina, where the local government was unable to help, hence the federal government needed to come in and fill the gap.

  13. DM says:

    Here is a poll that shows Obama has a problem with Libya.

    When asked specifically about the administration’s handling of the attacks on the consulate in Libya, the poll found that only 38 percent of voters approved and 51 percent disapproved
    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/31/us/politics/race-narrows-as-campaign-enters-its-final-week.html

  14. tommy says:

    Maybe after O is out, he can act as one of the Sith lords. Hes got the Sith ‘stare’ down pat. But you got to create a Sith Unicorn just for him.

  15. DandyTiger says:

    Did someone say storm?

  16. tommy says:

    Hmm…..now WaPos David Ignatius wants a ‘clearer’ answer from the administration regarding Benghazi.

    • DM says:

      Ignatius continues to excuse the president, the final point makes that clear.

      A final, obvious point: The “fog of battle” that night was dense not just in Benghazi but in Cairo, Tunis and elsewhere. U.S. officials needed better intelligence. That’s the toughest problem to address, but the most important.

  17. A little about disaster relief:

    I was a Red Cross volunteer for local and national disasters for 13 years. I started with Hurricane Andrew and ended with 9/11/01.

    As long as I was with Red Cross, yes, they wanted cash donations as it not only facilitates the TYPE of aid disaster victims need – hotel room vs clothing or pot & pans…but because Red Cross’ directive was to supply people in need with NEW things. They didn’t want them to be “victimized” twice – they just lost everything and now they are in ‘used’ clothing. It was a matter of helping people to maintain their self esteem. We would give VOUCHERS for stores (wal-Mart, K-Mart or Walgreens or with whomever RC had contracts in that area) and the recipient would go buy their own stuff. The “STUFF” was LIMITED to “Immediate Emergency Needs” (1 change of clothing and food in most cases, and temporary lodging if required – and generally for never over a week at a time). In addition, Red Cross would hand out comfort kits with basic hygiene items to anyone in the area who needed them. The bigger things, like furniture, work items (tools and work clothing) pot & pans, etc., would almost NEVER be done on a first visit, because if the victim had no where to live, a new dining set would be of no use. Red Cross would then, on a case-by-case basis do follow-up and would, at times, add more vouchers as people got on their feet. In extreme cases, long term “Additional Assistance” would be provided.

    In my experience, at this point, Red Cross is probably only doing the basics – Shelters, some feeding (although in my experience, the bulk of that seems to be done by Goodwill, Salvation Army, Catholic Charities and a few others). Red Cross has mobile feeding units that go through disaster areas and feed as needed to anyone. Victims, Responders, even reporters. While all this is happening, the Red Cross Damage Assessment Teams are working with State and Local Agencies (mainly LOCAL at first) to start the Damage Assessment process. House by house, block by block, teams first in vehicles if possible do a Preliminary Damage Assessment and then, usually in teams of two people go see what ACTUAL damage has been done to a specific address. They cannot go into a home or onto a property at this stage unless the owner is there and asks them to come inside. They report this info back to the Damage Assessment Coordinator and/or Team Lead and maps are developed of the “level” of damage a property or area has. At the same time, local and State Agencies are doing what they do and working with RC to facilitate a coordinated response.

    It is AFTER the Damage Assessments are well under way, that Disaster Relief Centers are opened to receive the victims of the event. As they have done the Damage Assessment, they cross-reference the address of the victim with their maps and if a follow-up is required, they will go to the property and re-assess. Often times, when entire blocks are destroyed or are “severe” the Immediate Emergency Aid is given without a follow up. In flood areas, houses can often look “fine” in the Preliminary Damage Assessment but are completely screwed up inside after the water recedes. All this take a great deal of money – so, cash is the better way.

    THAT BEING SAID, in the past few years I have noticed in my area (saint Petersburg, FL) that Red Cross now has “donation boxes” for clothing. I was shocked when I saw these and as I am not with the Agency anymore, I do not know what the policy change was that made them appear. Perhaps it was the slow economy – who knows – and I have not researched it.

    As for the Federal Response, The Stafford Act rules the day. ALL disasters are local and it is a “bottom up” line of request for assistance. Local, State, Fed. And although in these large events, the Fed can generally facilitate the process by “pre-declaring” it still cannot be done without a request from the State.

    Remember when Obama refused to allow a Disaster Declaration for the Texas fires? That was political. It’s ALL political – so his BS is just politicking.

    There really IS a guide for this in the Stafford Act – as well as the Federal Response Plan (a HUGE cluster-f**k of a document).

    So, yes, Red Cross does best with cash – but clearly they are taking other things now – at least here – and Andrea Mitchell just pissed me the hell off. Because unless and until you actually WORK disasters you should really keep your mouth shut.

    That’s enough of that for now. I LOVE disaster response and am still a Disaster Reservist with the State. It gets messy at times, but it IS when you see America – and Americans at their best – and Andrea needs to STFU. Mitt IS doing the right thing.

    • DM says:

      I think food and staples, like disposable diapers (expensive and those with children would be grateful to get them) are good donations. Maybe the bins for clothing donations is not to give away to victims of disasters, but get the money from selling the clothing. Goodwill and the Salvation Army get lots of money from clothing donations.

      • gram cracker says:

        Somewhere sometime ago I read that clothes that don’t sell in Goodwill and Salvation Army stores are baled up and either sold as rags for recycle or shipped to places like Africa. And that is why you see pictures of kids in Africa wearing t-shirts with American brand name products on them.

    • gram cracker says:

      Wow! Thank you for your insight in disaster relief based on real life experience. What you say about the Red Cross starting off with cash donations seems based on common sense of immediate needs.

      The food, clothes and other items collected for disaster relief are probably best distributed by church food pantry type operations.

      Who do you think gives more – Democrats or Republicans?

      In his new book, Who Really Cares: The Surprising Truth About Compassionate Conservatism, Arthur C. Brooks presents research showing that religious conservatives are more charitable than secular liberals. He says people who support the idea that government should redistribute income are among the least likely to dig into their own wallets to help others.

      http://philanthropy.com/article/Who-Gives-More-Democrats-or/49377/

      • DM says:

        He says people who support the idea that government should redistribute income are among the least likely to dig into their own wallets to help others.

        I’m all for donating and helping, but people who need consistent help because of an unexpected hardship (losing a job, a husband, etc.) are best served by local and state government. That’s not to say that people should count on help from government forever, or that the taxpayers owe it to those in need.

    • cj says:

      Thank you so much for the information !! It’s so much better to hear it from someone who’s “been there.”

    • leslie says:

      Thanks for that ff01. I volunteered for Katrina, but couldn’t go down, so I worked in the chicago relocation center for a short time – I couldn’t take time from my job, so it was a matter of a day or 2 on the weekends. I had originally been skeptical of the ARC, but I saw they were really invested in what they were doing.

      And ditto what you said re Andrea. If only she would STFU.

  18. And DM – your $.02 was absolutely right!

  19. Off to bed for me. I sleep better when I am disgusted. LOL

  20. Constance says:

    I don’t think the storm will save Obama. All the Republicans have to do is point out that this time he suspended his campaign where after the September 11th terrorist attack Obama flew to an campaign event in Vegas.

  21. Erica says:

    I find it incredible and offensive that MSNBC hacks think Romney’s efforts to provide goods for storm victims is more worthy of time and commentary than Obama’s lack of leadership around Benghazi.

  22. Glennmcgahee says:

    Having been through several hurricanes I can say that its the aftermath when times has passed and things don’t improve very quickly. It really begins to wear on ya. Lack of electricity and not having a job to go to or knowing when you will get a paycheck. The bills continue you know. Many people live paycheck to paycheck and then some are not even employed and spent what little they may have had on supplies that will run out pretty fast. We were without power for over 3 weeks after a while, it became everybody fending for themselves. The nights became scary as our area would be in total darkness with people wandering around looking for something to steal. I don’t think we’ve seen the worse yet. I cannot imagine being cold and in this predicament.

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