Hunker Down Time

intransitive verb ˈhəŋ-kər
hun·kered hun·ker·ing

Definition of HUNKER
1: crouch, squat —usually used with down
2: to settle in or dig in for a sustained period —used with down

I was wrong.

I freely admit it and make no excuses. My judgment was in error. I really believed that Mitt Romney would win. I was wrong. I am chagrined, embarrassed and humbled.

But I will not be a hypocrite. I have nothing but scorn and disdain for those know-it-all types who offer predictions and opinions but refuse to acknowledge when they are wrong, especially those who make their living that way. They continue along without the slightest show of humility after egregious errors in judgment, like the bloggers who denounced Hillary Clinton in favor of Barack Obama.

I do not believe I misjudged either of the candidates, but my assessment of the electorate obviously was significantly off the mark. I have taken great pride in making accurate evaluations and predictions in the past, but I have no explanation for making such a bad call this time.

I do not apologize, because to err is human. I did not ask anyone to risk their life, freedom or fortune on my advice. My advice was worth exactly what you paid for it.

Nonetheless, I feel it is time for me to step back and reassess things. I honestly have no idea what will happen next, but I am filled with foreboding. Those of you who have lived in places like Kansas and Oklahoma are familiar with storm cellars. They provide a safe place to hide when Mother Nature is on the rag. I am not giving anyone advice, but I plan to find a storm cellar and hunker down to wait out the coming storm.

While I’m down there I’ll try to figure out where I went wrong.

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75 Responses to Hunker Down Time

  1. angienc says:

    Myiq– there was a 50/50 shot that the people in this country would choose liberty over enslavement to the government. It’s not that big a deal that you got it wrong — I got it wrong too. As I wrote in the previous thread, our founding fathers gambled this day would come when they gave us a republic because the nature of humans — throughout history — is to be LED by the government, whether it be by kings, dictators, etc– not to be free to pursue their own happiness with limited government interference. We’ve been slowly eroding that freedom in this country since the civil war but the big showdown came on Nov. 6th & we (and the founding fathers) lost that bet.

    Now, I think we lost that bet in large part because the people really did not “speak” in that due to the corrupt media hiding/spinning/excusing Obama’s real record — not only on the economy & Benghazi, but also the *real* effects of Obamacare –while at the same time hiding Romney’s message & slamming him with made up gaffes & distortions on his position such that the people didn’t know what they were choosing between. (For example, a large majority of voters in the exit polls said they wanted SMALLER government). That also goes along with the gradual erosion of our freedom — we no longer have a free press and it is in full out Pravda mode for Obama since 2008 — and a free press is *essential* to our freedom. Breitbart warned about it, but most people, lulled by their “free” stuff and/or perception of being part of the “cool kids” dismiss it.

    It also has a lot to do with flat out ignorance — what is going on right now in Greece, Spain,etc. should have been enough of a warning to people that choosing that course here was bad — Romney tried to make that clear & if you followed his campaign closely enough (via New media, not via the MSM who hid it as much as possible) he did. But again, the sheep want to sit back & be entertained– they don’t want to have to *work* for it. (And, to be fair, there are a lot of idiots on the right who live in some kind of fantasy world that Romney was “too liberal” and was basically Obama-lite who also didn’t vote because they think a “true Con” will be able to walk in to the White House in 2016 — they are too stupid to understand that once Obamacare goes into full effect, with its unionized healthcare workers –funny how the MSM never mentions that part –we will be at more than 60% of the workforce in the public sector & no “true Con” who wants to end it will ever come close to the White House).

    Finally, I’m going to say this and you can take it however you want. I watched Obama’s speech in Iowa from 11/5 that you posted –I saw him literally cry while rambling & pleading that “This is my last campaign. It’s up to you.” And I saw Romney’s speech in Manchester, NH that same night with 12,000+ cheering so loudly for a full 10 minutes that he couldn’t start his speech. I saw the video of Romney at Red Rocks,CO, Bucks County, OH, Pittsburgh, etc. all with 10,000+ crowds — some waiting hours in the cold & rain to see him and many turned away because of full capacity — in those final weeks while Obama was at high school gyms with hardly 4000 & needed Katy Perry or Jay Z opening to barely break 10,000 at his events. Also, all those flips in endorsements by papers that endorsed Obama in 2008 –such as the Des Moines Register — to Romney in 2012 was not because Obama was “winning.” On Monday night in Iowa, Obama knew he was losing; on Monday night in NH, Romney knew he was winning. Something happened between Monday night & Tuesday. Not saying for a fact that there was fraud (although holding FL, VA, CO & OH so long and given the piddly margins of the Obama “wins” as well as knowing who we are dealing with — these are people who blatantly rigged caucuses in 2008 & took delegates from Hillary on 5/31/2008, so it isn’t inconceivable).* It could just be that Obama’s crass appeals to vote for “revenge” & his “Kill Romney” strategy to the moron horde coupled with his ground game worked at the last minute in a way no one expected — he suppressed enough of Romney’s vote (3.5 million) by making them too disgusted with the entire process to want to vote at all while ginning up his base. Either way, I say again — Romney’s message, his superiority as a man & candidate as well as the enthusiasm & momentum for his campaign WERE THERE on Monday, Nov. 6.

    *BTW, Howard Dean on the morning of the election stating on Morning Joe that there was no way Romney could win “unless he cheated” is a clue that there was cheating on Obama’s side. The one thing the Obots are good at is projection — every charge they ever threw at Romney was things they themselves were guilty of. It isn’t anecdotal evidence when there’s such a clear pattern.

    • angienc says:

      *Monday, November 5

    • Underwhelmed says:

      I absolutely believe we have witnessed election fraud on a scale never known before in your country. 2008 was the appetiser. This was the main course. Now it remains to be seen what happens next. I don’t have a crystal ball but I know this much — it won’t be pretty. But sometimes a crash to rock bottom is required before someone — or a country — stops living in denial and admits there’s a problem.

      I guess now we see what happens next.

    • sonrisa says:

      re:Obamacare- I had no illusuions about Romney. The only thing I wanted from him was to get rid of that POS. If he had kept that campaign promise it would of been worth putting up with him for 4 years. A few years ago we passed a law here in OH opting out of that POS & hopefully it will hold, but I would of preferrd an executive order getting rid of it altogether. As it is the country (except maybe OH) is stuck with that thing & now we will never get true healthcare

      • carol haka says:

        What happened to congress not funding it? They are all full of shit. 👿

        • sonrisa says:

          yes that’s true Boehner may not choose to fund it. Also this POS has it’s roots in a repug reponse to Hillary’s healthcare plan that she presented to Congress back in the 1990s. It was abandoned becuz it was deemed unworkable. It’s possible that once this shit starts going into effect over the next few years that it will be so bad that whoever is elected in 2016 will abolish it. But I’m not holding my breath

    • votermom says:

      In my old country we would have seen this right away as stolen.
      Maybe Putin gave him some ideas.

      • angienc says:

        Yes, but knowing it & proving it are two different things. Unfortunately, they successfully pulled it off because I’m sure if there was *any* evidence Romney would have contested it — he as playing to win. And of course, the MSM will not cover it — they didn’t cover May 31, 2008 or the caucuses — in fact, if you tell what really happened to *most* people, they’ll think you’re crazy. Hell, the MSM is now pretending that an almost 50/50 split in the popular vote is a “landslide” victory for Obama.

        But Florida by 40,000? My ASS.

        • votermom says:

          I cant prove it but I will try to spread that meme anyway. My gut says its true and our voting system needs reform.
          did a couple of tweets. #STOLENELECTION

        • votermom says:

          the evidence will start coming out in drips – way too slowly to change anything.
          But it is important to keep this alive to show that Obama’s 2nd term lacks legitimacy.
          The voters did not speak.

        • Glennmcgahee says:

          In Florida, we’ve had pollsters admit that they tabulated votes over and over due to “machine errors”.

      • angienc says:

        One more piece about this bullshit — remember in mid-October after the 2nd debate Gallup national came out with 52 Romney/ 46 Obama (well outside MOE)? Even Bob Beckel– a partisan Dem hack as ever lived–was all depressed on The Five & said “it’s over. No way can a challenger candidate go below 50% with that number in mid-October.” Of course that was BEFORE the journOlisters had a chance to coordinate. Romney maintained over 50% for the rest of the month, but despite the clear Romney surge, the journOlisters started reporting how Romney was merely PRETENDING to have a surge –that it wasn’t real, etc. it was just false bravado to make people/voters *think* it — even Beckel said it without shame after he had told the truth. Then Sandy hit — the MSM pretended Obama was doing such a great job (by basically hiding the truth about the FEMA fuck ups,how devastated a lot of the areas were & pretending that Christie cooperating with Obama was an “endorsement” of him as some great leader). Meanwhile,Gallup *stopped polling* and came out on the Monday right before the election with the race tied 49/49. The “false Romney surge” theme intensified as the truly “false Obama/Sandy surge” intensified (despite the disparity in crowd sizes as I previously noted). The fix was in, dammit. Only a fool would believe a hurricane gave Obama some kind of “bipartisan/leadership” cred after the last 4 years. (And if Sandy hadn’t happened, something else would have been created).

        Romney is no idiot — the man didn’t even write a concession speech Monday night. A crowd of people came to meet his plane as it landed in Pittsburgh (we all saw the picture — I posted it here election day) and when asked how that made him feel, he said “That’s when you know you are winning.”

        No matter how many votes Romney got in FL, VA, OH or CO — Obama was going to get around 40,000 more.

        • angienc says:

          *actually Beckel said “No way can a non-challenger candidate get above 50% with that number in mid-October” not the other way around.

        • angienc says:

          Oh, and Nate Silver started doubling down on his idiotic predictions that Obama was winning & saying that there was no Romney surge, give that “Romney was pretending to have a surge” credence. Today everyone is talking about what a genius Nate Silver is — really, he’s just a paid Obama hack who played his part in covering up the fraud.

    • votermom says:

    • votermom says:

      This is the article in The Cable that had foreign observers saying the US voting system would not work in their countries
      Guess what, it didn’t work here either

    • Karma says:

      I completely agree, yet again. Everything that I thought didn’t smell right you’ve described, Angie.

      Not sure if you remember but the 2012 primary elections even showed some counties posting more votes than people registered. That was the practice run and probably why they essentially blocked anyone significant from challenging Obama in the primaries. I thought moving up the primaries was to help block Sarah and Nadar’s challenger to Obama from getting on the ballots. Which was true.

      But what they really needed was a clean ticket to test run gaming the numbers across the country for election night.

      After seeing the more votes than voters bit during the primaries I was going to suggest that we all watch for the same thing within the swing state counties during the general but kept my conspiracy theory to myself.

      And don’t forget those tv stations flashing the general election results and claiming it was a test run of their systems. Don’t worry, nothing to see here. It was a test run, alright, but not in the way they wanted us to think.

      A bit of small time weirdness, but Wolf was on CNN talking about how much off screen time that he was putting into the general election night coverage. That there was lots of work to do, he was going on and on about it. I’ve never heard him say that he had to put that amount practice into election night or anything for that matter. But he wouldn’t shut up about it.

      It was during an exchange between Wolf and the host prior to him, but there was something off about it. Granted, it didn’t my radar going as much as Dean claiming if Romney wins it was stolen, but I noted it at the time, and was going to look up the video online when I got home.

      Seriously, I don’t think you were wrong Myiq, I also think this thing was stolen. Just like they did against Hillary.

      And hunker down is right.

    • smile says:

      ITA. Something was wrong with the vote count and the fact that BO admin fought to keep voter ID out. That along with media propoganda kept BO in office. We don’t have a free press anymore. They have been bought by the govt – and we will do ourselves a favor by accepting this fact. Is this how people in USSR too came to the realization about their media? Did it seep into their realization slowly and with disbelief, like it is for us?

      myiq wrote: My judgment was in error. I really believed that Mitt Romney would win. I was wrong. I am chagrined, embarrassed and humbled.

      And I say, your judgment was not in error. You along with nearly 100% of the voters (I include BO voters and BO himself) believed Romney would win. All you have to do is watch BO and his campaign staff 1-2 weeks before election – their facial expressions and manner of speaking indicated a loss. So, please don’t be chagrined or embarrassed. But being humbled is ok, because being humble is always a good thing. 🙂

  2. carol haka says:

    I thought you went underground yesterday? It doesn’t count if you keep popping your head up to take a peek! 🙂 if you could predict the future I am sure you would have given me the winning lotto numbers by now. This too shall pass. 👿

  3. angienc says:

    PS — This blindsided A LOT of people, some of whom are very good at this kind of analysis and have been doing it for decades, such as Michael Barone — who literally wrote the book on elections & precinct analysis.

    Karl Rove too — who’s EV & popular vote prediction in 2008 was eerily close to the final outcome. (I’m not counting Dick Morris because he’s a showboating fool that will say outrageous stuff just to get attention).

    People were making these predictions based upon historical trends that matched up with what Gallup and Rasmussen were saying (which estimated turnout at R+3 and R+4.6, respectively — and Rasmussen has called the turnout correctly to within .5% in the 2004, 2008 & 2010 elections). But the predictions people were making — including us — weren’t completely unfounded.

    Nat Silver, OTOH, I still call BULLSHIT on — he’s a known Obama flack who got his 2008 “predictions” right based on having the internal Obama polls. This year he got his orders from the Obama camp on how to “read” the polls– his use of the D+8 turnout model (which is what those state polls uses) was not predicated on *anything* that the polls were *actually* telling us.

    All of this, btw, goes to something being hinky about the actual results.

    • Lulu says:

      Something is very off but by maintaining the control of the government they are banking on covering it up with the DOJ and media. But there are rumblings of blow back with a loosely organized underground slow down of the economy that Bronco cannot control. The argument is that the public likes a bad economy and that is what they are going to get.

      • angienc says:

        I hope its true — but they should have done that starting in about August or so. Now we will all just suffer more with no hope of relief for4 more years. Personally, I think that’s all going to happen anyway now that Obamcare is going into full effect.

        And frankly, I don’t know how much good any POTUS will be able to do by 2016 — we will just be “just another country” (we’ve already dropped down to #12 in “most productive” from #7 before the election) but with at least $20 trillion in debt –then with Obamcare fully implemented — that’s going to be hard to repeal,first of all, mainly because NO BODY in DC is ever willing t give up any power.

        Good bye Keystone pipeline too — I swear to God, those a–holes in PA & Ohio who voted for Obama deserve what’s coming there way (as do all who voted for Obama) — but I and the rest of us don’t deserve $9 a gallon gas.

        • Lulu says:

          Apathy from half of the country is very dangerous. Passive resistance is still resistance. They cannot make farmers farm and they cannot make energy companies make energy. Both groups are furious and expect big problems with supplies of food and energy and both will get much more expensive. There is an overabundance of natural gas right now and energy companies are capping wells and they are going to manipulate the hell out of those markets. The drought in much of the country has caused a big decrease of supply in many crops and do not expect farmers to continue risking funds for a possible recovery. There is a lot of thought going on right now on how to cut EVERYTHING back. Commodities and labor will be hit hard.

  4. ecoast says:

    Angie – Excellent analysis. Compared to 2008, Obama lost about 10 m votes and R lost 6 million McCain votes.
    All the turn out models assumed in the end R would keep McCain votes but Obama would lose most of his 2008 margin.
    I think what happened was MSM TV probably flogged non-stop Obama’s Sandy trip and other non-sensical stuff the final week. Low info voters watch lot of TV and were excited just enough to go to the voting booth. Something clicked there and we need to find out what exactly.

    We all believed R would win going into Tuesday morning only to face the shocking result that night.

    • angienc says:

      It was 10 million loss for Obama; 3.5 million loss of McCain voter for Romney, not 6 million.

      I think that number accounts for people like skyhaters as well as Independents who were so turned off by Obama’s negative campaign (which the MSM shamefully declared BOTH sides were doing, which is a bunch of bullshit — pointing out that Obama said he’d cut the deficit in half but instead doubled it is NOT the same thing as the lies Obama spewed about Romney) that they just stayed home (even though polls showed Romney winning them by 8%)

  5. votermom says:

    Almost as good as a meltdown – Tweety revealed his sociopathy on live tv

  6. Hinky indeed angie. Starting with theplane (helicopter?) that crashed with all the military absentee ballots on it- leaving not enough time for the troops to request, receive and return new ones.
    We seriously need to do away with early voting and impose voter id. My suspicion is that ACORN (a thorn by any other name etc) registered thousands of bogus voters. Picked them up daily and bussed them around to various precincts. At this stop you are John Smith, the next, Joe Blow etc. How many precincts can they cover in the early voting period?
    Enough to skew Ohio and VA?

  7. carol haka says:

    Fox news wasn’t. Rattled with results coming in. O’Reilly Huckabee trashing Romney before the first states even called. Interesting. 👿

  8. myiq—you did NOTHING WRONG!!!! This is politics (like sports)—you win some and you lose some. From the losses, you learn how to fight smarter the next time. But you don’t give up or you put your future into the hands of bozos. Lick your wounds as long as you need to. We’ll all be here on your return!! I know my angle is a little different than yours, but the goals are the same. My latest piece was written a little with you in mind and it is called “Where do we go from here?”

  9. angienc says:

    BTW, Boeing announced TODAY that big layoffs in defense division (remember how Obama DOJ sent out letters telling contractors they would cover –with our tax money mind you — all lawsuits for failing to give the 90 day notice required for layoffs re: federal contracts until AFTER the election, which wasn’t “news” to the MSM like Romney’s taxes were).

    I hope every single person laid off voted for Obama. Fuck you.

    • angienc says:

      PS — To those laid off — call Michael Moore or Chris Matthews — I’m sure they’ll be more than willing to “share” their millions with you.

      Of course, I’m also sure they’ve already moved their millions to offshore accounts & Swiss banks.

      Frankly, I hope Romney has moved his money as well– he’s clearly paid enough in taxes to last a lifetime, and certainly enough in charity. He’s a smart guy — I’m sure he will.

      • Lulu says:

        The layoffs will accelerate. Those workers pay will be going for the Obamacare tax, premiums and penalties for the remaining workers. Also expect reduced and manipulated salaries (deferred compensation, stock options, etc) to bring down income taxes with the tax jump in January. The accountants are very busy at present.

      • foxyladi14 says:

        Most pay taxes once Mitt is paying taxes twice on the same money. :evil;

    • wooo–I saw that too angienc and thought the same thing. Glad you mentioned it—-fuck them all. you reap what you sow….

  10. my friends with small businesses have ALL told me that they were going to make various investments in a bunch of different things, but now that Obama has been reelected (and they are all disgusted about that) they are going to hold off doing anything for now. How can that be good for the economy???????

  11. cynic says:

    In my little neck of the woods, North central IL, our county turned Republican. Our County board went Rep. as well. Obama got 4400 fewer votes, and Mitt won. We voted down a 1% tax increase for the schools, reelected our Rep. Congressman, Adam Kinzinger, and reelected a Rep. State Senator. We worked hard here to get out the vote by knocking on doors and making phone calls.

    I went to bed before the election results came in. I was sickened, literally, when I saw WI go for Obama? Really? After the Walker recall? And Paul Ryan being from that state? That’s when I went to bed.

    Wed. morning, I refrained from turning on the computer, the radio and the t.v. I cleaned house, did the laundry, ironed for three hours, baked a cake, then grabbed a glass of wine and came here.

    Myiq2xu, when I read that you were taking a break, I understood, but that’s when the tears came, and they are coming again as I write this. I am mostly a lurker, come out rarely, but I always visit you numerous times during the day. I feel like I’m losing my friends as well, and that saddens me as much as Obama being President for 4 more years.

    Thank you friends, for making these last couple of years more bearable.

    • cynic—-don’t lose hope!! Our friend myiq will be back because we can’t let the bozos run the show. Congratulations to you for your great work in your county and the amazing results!!!! I know—I’ve approached the media in the past 36 hours like I was watching a horror show—–with one eye closed. The MSM sucks…..still and forever it seems. sigh…

    • angienc says:

      Also don’t forget in WI that the voters voted in a GOP take over of their state legislature too, but we’re supposed to believe they didn’t vote for the ticket with Ryan as the VP.

  12. Wanda says:

    How can you like Clinton and not want to go back to Clinton tax-rates?

  13. myiq2xu says:

    The Wealthiest Preferred Obama

    You would think that the wealthiest people in the country would have preferred Mitt Romney to Barack Obama, since Obama wants to raise taxes on the richest members of society.

    You’d be wrong. According to a analysis of Tuesday’s election, eight of the ten richest counties in America voted in favor of Obama – and all of them featured a wider margin of victory for Obama than the national average.

    • How much {Head/Desk} therapy before this insane, idiotic behavior starts to make sense?
      Or maybe it was all the “help” in those rich counties?

      • angienc says:

        No, it’s the rich. There’s this thing called Arbitrage — the very rich have all move their money to off shore accounts & Swiss banks. It’s exactly what Romney said to Obama at the first debate — the very rich are going to be fine whether he or Obama won, it’s the middle class who is going to suffer even more if Obama is reelected.
        The rich aren’t paying any more taxes regardless of the rate Obama imposes on them.

  14. Yesterday morning I was driving behind a shiny new Mercedes coup. And EXPENSIVE car. It was beautiful. Right in the center of the back bumper was a small oval sticker. I had to strain to read it. When I did, I wasn’t really surprised at the irony.

    “Occupy Wall Street Supporter”

  15. And=An. More coffee.

  16. gxm17 says:

    Um, myiq, you didn’t get anything wrong. No one can predict the future. Everyone in my family who voted for Obama absolutely believed that Romney would win. That’s sure what it *felt* like. That’s where the energy was coming from. I didn’t see any excitement or energy coming from ObamaNation, only fear and anger. Now they are giddy with relief. And they don’t even see the blood on their hands. Ah, ignorance is bliss! And, sorry Klown, but bliss just ain’t in our makeup.

    One sabbatical suggestion: Write a book! You’re good at this writing thang.

  17. Lulu says:

    I have already received an email from my broker. Would I be interested in new regional bond funds? Muni’s, utilities, energy, etc. Factors considered: state laws, tax base, blah, blah, blah. Some guys and gals have been busy and the flight of capital has begun. Oh boy.

  18. ME says:

    I never believed Dick Morris but I wonder has he explained himself or even apologized? I think the Republican base latches on to him and Hillbuzz because they like having former Clinton supporters on their side. Their hatred of Clinton blinds them and for some reason they bought into both Hillbuzz and Morris declaring Romney the winner. I didn’t understand any of the projections, especially the ones that tried to explain away the poll numbers. The assumption was that 2010 would be replicated. I think we must accept that Obama’s base did not come out for 2010 because they are low-information apolitical voters. We all read the reports of non English speakers being bused in and being told who to vote for yesterday. Our voting process should be embarrassing for any patriotic American. Interesting that Obama lost where voter ID was required.

    Why was Romney so sure of a win and Obama so sure of a loss? People are saying the pollsters have been vindicated but I don’t get it. Maybe Obama’s tears motivated his base?

  19. OldCoastie says:

    Oh myiq, lotta good, smart people were wrong!

    I thought Hillary would ultimately get the nomination but that didn’t happen either. I think its having hope that the smart choice will be made and then it isn’t.

    Very disappointing. But we will go on and this country go on and Obama will continue to be an idiot. We survived 8 years of Bush. We will survive 8 years of Obama.

  20. tommy says:

    Romney is well on his way to overtaking McCain in the popular vote. Hes only 2.3 million behind, but there are many millions of votes yet to be counted. The final tally should be complete in 2 weeks. Romney did much better than McCain on almost every metric. Among Protestants R got 57% compared to Ms 54%, among White evangelicals, R got 78% compared to Ms 74 and among Jews R got 30% compared to Ms 21% (thats the highest Jewish vote count for the pubs since 1988). Where McCain lost the Latino vote 31/67, Romney did worse 27/71. Nationally, R was up +5 among indies. But D+6 was too large to overcome. The biggest surprise was that turnout among the 18-29 year olds actually increased from 18% in 2008 (dem wave election) to 19% in 2012, and this is where O won big. Romney got more than 1.8 million votes over O among voters 30+. R lost the under 30’s by 5.1 million. Game, set, match. The youts did us in.

  21. Fraud? Lies? Spin?

    Maybe we can start to mend the rifts and understand what happened, if people would just admit that this was a loss, fair and square, and the country is not in step with what you believe right now.

    This election wasn’t stolen, there was no fraud, Romney just lost. That’s it. Clearly and decisively.

    So the question is easy:

    If you were wrong about the election, isn’t at least possible that some of the other things you have been saying may be off?

    Logic would dictate self evaluation, but I have the feeling that many here will double down.

    All the while, growing increasing removed from the reality of what is actually happening outside of the echo chamber.

    I don’t want to gloat or say I told you so, but at the same time, what is one to say. I told you that Obama would win and that people generally support the president. The fact that you don’t makes this no less true.

    That should be the starting place of discussions from this point on. The fundamental assumption (we are in the majority . . . most of Americans think Obama is doing a bad job), is false.

    It just is and it is time to face that.

    • myiq2xu says:

      ABG by another other name would still smell like a troll.

      • Yup. Thanks for letting me say my piece. With that, I leave you to your Obama bashing and completely unnecessary miserableness the next 3-4 years. It’s going to be a happy time despite the cries that the world will end now. The economy will improve, a war will end and women will have more and more power and influence.
        But I had to say something here. People spent the last 4 years saying this wouldn’t happen. Hopefully you all will have settled out your frustrations by 2016 so that we can join to get behind Hillary. But if not, no big deal. Have fun with your friends, the Republicans. I’m sure they have your back.

        Forever yours,

        Angry Black Guy

        PS: Hillary, 2016

        [drops mic and walks off stage]

    • Karma says:

      The Bill of Rights is gone. You are cheering for the destruction of the economy and America being strapped down by Obamacare and drowned in debt. While other regulations that attempt to kill coal, and more, start picking what’s left in your pockets. And watch millions forced into part time jobs as employers seek to avoid the new laws.

      Watch this video.

      When Boliiva sought to refinance the public water service of it’s third largest city. The World Bank required that it be privatized. Which is how the Bechtel Corp of San Francisco gained control over all of Cochabamba’s water…..even that which fell from the sky.

      This is what you are cheering with Obama. Being ‘enslaved’ as Angie puts it, to a corporation, by your govt. And it won’t end with Obamacare, your rights are gone. Obama sold your rights for HIS enrichment, he doesn’t care about you. Wake up! I dare you to watch that video and not see what just happened.

      And if you didn’t have the courage to watch. I will be sure and post this bit. Families living on two dollars a day were charged a quarter of their income.

      Hmmmm….where does that percentage sound familiar? Obamacare.

      If that doesn’t send a chill into you, then you simply don’t understand how it all fits together.

    • Karma says:

      And even Bill Maher, who is pro-Obama, admits that Obama isn’t a Democrat. Obama is a center-right Republican, deal with it, you’ve been conned.

      A previously posted link in case you missed it.

      Cheer Up, Republicans
      You’re going to have a moderate Republican president for the next four years: Barack Obama.

      And the part time job economy….

      Too bad you didn’t really research Obama’s career while in Chicago otherwise you would already know all of this. But he repeatedly sold out his constituents in favor of his backers who were slumlords. Valerie Jarrett is one of them. Hillary tried to tell you in the debates but you fell for Obama’s lies and his smears. This time he sold out the entire country.

      Have fun cheering his win, but at least take your head out of the sand, and research exactly who and what you are cheering about.

  22. Myiq, don’t beat yourself up too much. You didn’t misread the electorate by much. All the indicators we predicted came true. Turnout was way, way down from 2008. Obama lost 10 million votes over 4 years. The economy sucks and he has delivered the largest authoritarian social program this country has ever seen. Every single citizen in American will be effected by Obamacare, and the majority still don’t want it.

    The majority did not speak on Tuesday, not even the majority of voters. Obama won because prejudice, bigotry, and apathy won. Obama micro-targeted a group of fools in the specific counties he needed to based on dishonest rhetoric about the citizens of our nation. These folks bought into the fear-mongering and let themselves be persuaded by an army of OFA agents.

    On the other side of the aisle, the religious right stayed home. Their bigotry against Mormons meant more to them than the country they live in. In the great middle, the people who were not hurting very loudly declared they didn’t give a shit about the country or the people that are hurting, and yet fear-mongering by Obama was not effective on them. They simply do not care because they don’t have to. Yet.

    The only mistakes we made were underestimating Christian bigotry and broad apathy. We expected everything else. This was a cynical win by Obama. He exploited the weaknesses of an earnest system as despots always do. So here we are, post-2004 style. It sucks, and it is little consolation that this country will get the hell it deserves for the next four years.

    • myiq2xu says:

      Hot Air:

      One question I’m seeing in the comments is, “Did evangelicals turn out for Romney”? Yep, looks that way. Turnout among Protestants generally dropped slightly from 2008 (54% to 53%) but Romney’s share of the vote increased from 54% to 57%. Among white evangelicals specifically, turnout was steady at 26% of the electorate from four years ago and Romney took 78% of the vote compared to just 74% for McCain. If you’d rather slice the data by how often people go to church, the number who attend at least weekly rose from 39% in 2008 to 42% this time. McCain won 55% of that group. Romney won 59%. He improved on McCain’s numbers among Jewish voters too, from 21% of the vote in 2008 to 30% this time (or maybe more), the highest take for a Republican since 1988. If there’s any religious group that underperformed for him, it’s Catholics. He did improve on McCain’s numbers — from 45% to 48% — but O still won a majority despite the abortion-rights jamboree at the convention and the contraception mandate. Catholic turnout was down two points this time, however.

      • That doesn’t exactly absolve them, Myiq. Many stayed home in 2008, too. They are almost 40% of the electorate. I’d like to see the numbers compared between 2004, 2008, and 2012.

        • votermom says:

          Allahpundit points out that a lot of the 2008 evangelicals were also seniors who have died without replacement.

          Dems don’t have that problem – they can vote after they’re dead.

  23. foxyladi14 says:

    And do often 😆

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