From The Confluence:
The first I found at NakedCapitalism. It’s a post election summary on Real News Network about what is going to happen in the next four years. That we’re going in the direction of favelas is no surprise to me. But what most interested me was the bit in the last 10 minutes or so about what might happen in the vast sea of red in the middle of the country (and parts of Pennsylvania). We are talking about nationalism. I think the little diatribe that Rush Limbaugh went on today, as described by Matt Taibbi, suggests the germ of that is already out there. There’s a bitter resentment about how Latinos, women, the LBGT community and african americans have exerted their “special privileges”. As the economy falls deeper into recession due to ill-conceived austerity measures, we might see what seems like the sudden emergence of a true brown shirt movement. Liberals will be the ones who stabbed the good citizens in the back when they elected Obama (not me! I voted for Anderson and I have the iphone pic to prove it). Anyway, just watch it. It makes me think that the right wing conservative who watched Schindler’s List can not make the connection because liberal Democrats are not Jews.
So Barack Obama just won (or stole) a second term. The election results caused no violent reactions anywhere in the country (other than someone leaving a dead pig in front of one Romney campaign office).
Republicans are weeping, wailing and gnashing their teeth at the prospect of a demographic realignment that would leave the Democrats in charge for many years to come. The GOP discussions mostly center on where they went wrong this time and how to win over Hispanics and independents to their side in future elections.
So what is Riverdaughter worried about? She’s got her knickers twisted that the occupants of Flyover Country (aka “the vast sea of red in the middle of the country”) are gonna start goosestepping and throwing liberals into death camps.
Unfortunately, hers is not an isolated case.
big·ot
noun \ˈbi-gət\
1: a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance
— big·ot·ed \-gə-təd\ adjective
The Crawdad Hole 
Roseanne Barr got more votes than Rocky Anderson.
I am hoping that they throw us out of the union. We are so dangerous we should be expelled don’t you think. Then they can be safe in utopia like Long Island and Staten Island and New Jersey. Or something. Whatever. They won the election and now THEY are paranoid.
BTW – Riverdaughter is a coward who refuses to post my comments at TC, forcing me to post them here instead.
Myiq! you’re back! 😀
Good to see the Klown back.You have been missed 🙂
That’s why we came here! 🙂 The intolerance for other points of view at “The Confluence” did not go unnoticed.
Has anybody checked the spam pit today?
Trash duty is a dude job. Everyone knows that.
(that’s mom code for er .. no)
Okay, but I hope there wasn’t anything in there worth saving.
gulp
https://twitter.com/misscare619/status/267066134837219328
Obigotry is a disease
Obamacrats are fascists, plain and simple. Remember the video with people pledging their allegiance to Obama? To them, everything is racism. If not racism, you’re a Republican. Or you’re a low information voter and don’t “understand” the issues or what the Dems/Obama is trying to accomplish. There is no reasoning or debate with them.
As far as I’m concerned, the Dem party can celebrate as much as it wants. The people who voted for Obama voted for him, not the Dem party. They cannot hold on to the WH in the future. The people that they’ve driven away, will not come back.
Also, I don’t think for a second that the media can continue to perpetuate this feel-good message that the USA is on the track to becoming sunshine and lollipops. I give it until January, and that’s being generous. Thanksgiving and Christmas are coming up and people are going to feel like shit because they can’t afford jack.
Agree. If anything, the last four years have demonstrated that the far left is just as batshit and diabolic as the far right.
“The people who voted for Obama voted for him, not the Dem party.”
Exactly! And that so few realize this – that it’s a cult worship of one – is mind boggling.
Especially the “One” they chose. Ick.
I had a feeling about this administration . It will be so weighed down with scandal and ignominy that it might be possible to hobble Obama and not be steamrolled under and rolled over by his terrible misdirection . But we have to resist , engage and loudly contend with him at every turn.
As for RD , I can speak confluently .
To RD
Any time , dear daughter of the water , you dream of large numbers of people under your bed, you are engaging what Jung called the collective subconscious . This bespeaks a very early level of development , lacking sophisticaion , refinement , discernment . and selectivity . You are lacking in individuation , and out of touch with your animus and your shadow . Your yearning for relationship and intercourse with others is at a primitive level , and expresses itself in visions of large nebulous and amorphous groups , rather than distinct individuals . Recognition of this level of your development is essential to any continued progress you might hope to make .
NICE!
ty 🙂
I liked all that Jung stuff. You are no slouch at writing either.
wow!
HA! Brava, swanspirit!
Being of Jewish descent, that is just fucking insulting. We would not allow her ilk in the death camps with us! 👿 My American Indian heritage in flyover country in that sea of red is insulted also – but in this case, it’s blood.
RD is a forking idiot , who somehow learned words .
Yes. A bigoted idiot with a big vocabulary who can’t even see herself honestly, let alone others.
If she thinks she’s going to get another job with her attitudes in an Obama economy, she’s more delusional than we think.
She is a brilliant writer. She just sucked down some crazy pills over the last few years. 👿
I agree about her writing skills. I am jealous. Srsly.
I am also stuck on a commuter train and that means I missed the movie I was going to see after work tonight. It doesn’t look any too promising either as they just announced that passengers can get off the train to stretch if we want. That’s bad news.
If you have cable, go to primetime on demand and watch the Elementary series. I like it. I am now going to watch last night’s episode. 🙂
Never heard of Elementary. I’ll try it. Thnx.
It is a modern day take on Sherlock Holmes. Lucy Lu is in it. I really like her. Start from the first episode so you will know the relationship. 🙂
I disagree. Good ideas, but desperately in need of an editor. She knows many words, but “concise” is not one of them.
Matt Taibbi:
The only way I would take Matt Taibbi’s advice on women would be if Bill Maher and Tbogg weren’t available.
…. or Peterson or the other Peterson or OJ or …. 👿
ROFLOL
There are some really stupid Republican men. Sadly they can’t learn what would attract women by sitting around talking to themselves and the two women who are in their boys club because they act like imitation men.
We are going to have Obamacare because the Republicans don’t have the power to stop it. The only reason most young women go to the Dr is for birth control checkups and prescriptions. So basically in Republican men’s minds young women are supposed to be content to pay huge premiums for expensive Obamacare and then have the only reason they see a Dr exempt from coverage due to the moral outrage of a bunch of old farts who think birth control is a “women issue” (we all have met this sort of oaf and we all despise them) but these Republicans are not concerned about the moral implications of Obamacare covering ED drugs for unmarried men. And they seriously can’t understand the problem?! Well they better learn to enjoy playing the powerless victim because women are 54% of the population.
What insurance covers ED drugs? I used to work at a pharmacy and I have never seen it happen.
Supposedly it was for diabetic men and those others who needed a big dose of V, we were told by PP, NOW, etc. I bought this argument, until I actually talked with a diabetic man who couldn’t get a prescription for it. He had to buy it OTC like the rest of his insulin stuff.
Ed drugs are not covered – I know.
…or Obama
It isn’t fair. I have a job and RD doesn’t and she has the iPhone. But then I don’t have those bad dreams that she has.
And I thought it was illegal to take a picture in the voting booth?
I heard that Seal pushed his way to the front of the voting line and took a pic of himself voting. How/why would he do that?
I think it was Usher.
Thanks. I knew it was a one-named guy… Honest they all sound alike to me. Seal, Sting, Usher, Bono.
You forgot Slash. I think Prince got his name back too.
Isn’t Prince married to Kate? Or did I miss something? And someone named their kid Slash? How ’bout Eminem. A kid named after candy. No wonder he was so angry.
I still like Petraeus. I feel bad for him and his family. Being gone all the time and married to your job doesn’t leave its mark. To lose a brilliant career is ridiculous. 😥
He’ll be fine. He’ll go to work as a lobbyist for Lockheed or some weapons manufacturer. He’ll make more money, and the wife never saw him anyway. I wouldn’t worry too much about his future.
You know I am now wondering if Petraeus resigned because Obama and co. was trying to use the affair to blackmail him to lie to Congress about Benghazi.
You may be onto something….
Time to recirculate this from Bush 2 days:
As long as I can wear a tiara, it’s cool! 🙂
That is absolutely fabulous! Can’t wait to share if with my Anglophile friend.
So, they just strayed the train up again. Yeah!!! I’m going home.
Started the g-d train!
Mopped. They stopped it again. #%^<*%#.
So funny listening to laura and huck discussing Tea Party and who might rise from the ashes of the movement and how to fix the republican party. As if there will be a republican party in 2016. And if they want to know who is the Tea Party, go to http://www.conservatives4palin.com. There are multiple pictures of her. 👿
This is likely to be wat OT. But I was reading Twitchy and saw that Katherine Herridge of FOX News – the one who’s been breaking stories also resigned. Is this the payback Val JarJar was talking about? Isn’t this a bit lcommunist-like or Nazi-ish thinking?
What the fuck? I bet she got caught on the email list. This means Patreaus was the leak! OMG!
Did she have the affair with Patreaus?
No. I think the way the tweet was written made it appear she resigned. I think it was just showing Katherine as the source that Patreaus was resigning. Whewwwwww! 🙂
OK.
Curious.
Believe it or not. . . . I finally got home. And I’m watching the autocorrect more closely. Catherine Herridge is on Greta reporting on Petraeus. So is Trey Gowdy, Pat Buchanan, Rudy Giuliani . . . All now in the target of JarJar’s vengeance. So perhaps the Ingraham tweet on Twitchy was wrong? I don’t know.
It was the way she wrote the tweet. She was giving credit to Catherine for reporting Patraeus ….
She reported on Benghazi. What the heck is going on? Now on Fox they’re reporting that Valerie Jarret has been in private negotiations with Iran (where she was born).
What sources?
Tarot cards, horoscope and Magic 8-Ball?
John Miller has sources that I hope are not Tarot cards
The same ones that said Stevens was killed over a video.
That settles it then.
Riiiiiight 🙂
John Miller CBS reporter
It’s such an odd feeling right now….it’s like everything is the reverse or opposite of what it appears to be….right is wrong, idiots are geniuses, the truth is a lie. The biggest problem at the moment is that the blinders have gone on and most people around us refuse to see reality….sad, sad, sad….
I’ve felt like that since May 31, 2008.
Ditto !!
Oh, and if RD thinks the Repubs are the Fascists instead of the current Obamacrats, she’s crazy. Or maybe she’s just trying to stay off Obama’s kill list and not have a drone come after her.
Drones are a bummer, that’s for sure….
RD is a great writer and I still like some of her posts. I miss the old days of the Confluence. (I did not know she had banned comments from myiq, which, among other things, shows a complete lack of taste.)
She says she did not vote for the President, which I can respect. But she should take note of Oliver Stone, who is coming off the kool-aid (after it is too late to do any good):
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1112/83640.html
djmm
bwahahahaha
Just for that, trutherbot goes on Obama’s kill list 🙂
Perfect! 🙂
He has a point.
When was the last time we were $16 trillion in debt?
But what does that have to do with R’s vs. (O)D’s? Sounded like she was talking about the red fly over country area and them rising up. Sounds a lot more like what the OD’s are doing now if we’re keeping up with nationalism. All hail Obama.
Well, we are technically the ones with pitchforks! 🙂
No, no, no! All hail Votermom! (she said so)
😀
Huh?
Republicans are zombies out to eat her yummy educated brains.
Obot’s brains and eggs. Sounds like a pretty lite meal to me. May need to throw in some grits and biscuits and gravy. 🙂
She’s a chemist, not a historian.
But … while it’s true that nationalism is rising in Europe, and in an alarming fashion too, so is boundless – and here I thought it couldn’t get any stronger! – admiration for Obama. All hail to Obama for how he has turned America into a truly accepting multi ethnic society while making the old, white, conservative ‘forces’ superfluous!
I don’t see or hear anyone ‘important’ worry about the fact, that if the free people of free western democracies could’ve voted for Obama they would have done so by numbers in the 80-90% range.
How does free people voting in the numbers caractheristic of dictatorships compute!?
I blame the media, but still … there must be more to it than that, I just don’t know what.
She wonders why she’s still unemployed. Some prospective employers do like to use the google and if you sound like a complete nut…well.
(Just my undereducated plebian opinion)
They always hate accomplished people the most.
Heh.
LMAO!
FBI didn’t follow protocal to investigate. Hillary not available to testify. Impeachment.
OT — the righwing blogosphere is going full idiot pointing fingers & concentrating on distractions the MSM has thrown to them about how Romney really didn’t ever have momentum, the first debate didn’t change anything & how some tech fail suppressed Romney’s voters on election day so they will not ask the *real* questions about what happened between election eve & election day.
I full expect to see the following revisionist history in the MSM by Monday:
Remember all those liberal newspapers who flipped their endorsements from Obama in 2008 to Romney in 2012? Totally a sign that Romney was tanking.
Oh and those pathetic Obama crowds & those huge ones for Romney with thousands waiting in the cold and rain to see him (that Obama only matched when Katy Perry or Jay-Z opened for him)? That was deliberate strategy on Obama’s part to lull the right into a false sense of momentum.
Finally, Obama in Iowa election eve slumped over the podium, rambling about this being his last race with tears streaming down his face while at the same time Romney in NH with a crowd of 12,000+ cheering so loudly when he came on stage that he couldn’t start his speech for 10 minutes? Never happened.
You summed up Romney as an abject failure nicely! 🙂 Someone needs to head to CLeveland in search of 1 lone Republican that voted for Romney and blow the lid off of this voter fraud! 👿
Yep — there was never any doubt whatsoever that Dear Leader was going to win.
“That was deliberate strategy on Obama’s part to lull the right into a false sense of momentum.”
[Snort. Lol-sob.]
I knew the klown would be back soon.
Only when the front page has something to say about RD. They have some kind of love-hate affair. 🙂
Breaking up is hard to do! 🙂 They separated over Sarah Palin.
We should start a “get a room” campaign ;-).
Petraeus’ affair was with his biographer. The book title? “All In”. Seriously. You can’t make this sh*t up.
He’s hot. I’d go for it! All In! Okay, heading for a cold shower! 🙂
looked under the bed, darn no Petraeus, just an old dog biscuit and dried up cherry.
{{spit take}}
😯
In this old interview with Jon Stewart, he asks a few questions and she gives a few answers that now are funny.
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-january-25-2012/paula-broadwell
Anyone seen this one in the NY Times?
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/15/magazine/a-message-from-beyond.html?_r=0
It would be wrong not to speculate.
“I strongly feel that exposing the affair will create a major distraction that would adversely impact the success of an important effort.”
How could this important effort not be read as Obama’s reelection?
ahhhh myiq is back….,all is well in my little corner of the world 🙂
Seems more better, doesn’t it?
yes, it does.
Indeed!
djmm
honk
OT (this really belongs in votermom’s thread, but I’m putting it up here).
Blatantly stolen from a poster named TarheelBen at another site but it sums up a lot of what I’ve been trying to say:
Back to me: Another thing that bothers me is how everyone in the MSM was very quick to jump on the “The results match those swing-state polls! There you go: polls were right! Now lets talk about how much Romney fucked everything up.”
The most laughable part, of course, is that these people are pointing the “accuracy” of the DailyKos/SEIU swing state polls done by PPP to justify how everything you list about enthusiasm/crowd size/Gallup & Ras having Romney ahead etc for Romney the last month did not mean what it meant.
For fucks sake — *of course* the actual results of the election match the RCP averages — that’s how election fixing works, you create exactly that kind of “believable” result, you don’t give your guy a 20 point lead when the polls had him tied. Plus, the fraud via polls was in the works for a long time –at first it was to demoralize us thinking that they would win without having to do wide-scale voting fraud, but then that first debate happened & Romney started gathering momentum because people were getting excited to vote FOR him, not just AGAINST Obama. That is when TeamObama started panicking & they needed some kind of last minute “Black Swan” to reset the story by taking the focus off of the campaign (especially after the jobs reports that were supposed to be ATOMIC BOMBS! didn’t work). The flailing & vulgarity we saw directly from Obama himself, not just his campaign & surrogates, after October 3rd was due to the stress of figuring out what the “Black Swan” was going to be — if they hadn’t “lucked out” (I’m being sarcastic here) with Sandy hitting when it did, they would have been bombing Libya in relation for Benghazi a week before the election.
PS — It’s also the reason for all the “How Romney fucked everything up” and how “The first debate didn’t change anything” stories that the MSM has been pushing these last few days — it’s revisionist history to try to make us forget what we saw and/or to make us think what we saw didn’t mean what it meant.
Fox had no surprise on their faces at the results. Obama’s looked like “holy shit, did we just get away with this?” Pelosi is hanging on to see if she becomes President when the rest are impeached. OUT OUT DAMN SPOT! 👿
Come on Angie! Obama was just being polite in that first debate.
(Or was it the altitude ? I forget.)
Pips, or in Bushism—- POLITITUDE.
None of it adds up, Angie, none of it.
Agreed. All indicators pointed to a Romney win. In fact he did win…..
Yes – that’s exactly my point!
Also, linky? I’d like to see the reactions to it.
So did anyone else think that Petreaus might have resigned because the White house was using the affair to blackmail him into lying about Benghazi to Congress?
Interesting idea, but one would think he would say so. Maybe he fears retribution by unmanned drones? (kidding about that part).
I am sure he fears retribution. From the White house, from CIA people, even from ex military people for hanging the SEALs out to dry. The least retribution he probably fears is his wife, they have been married so long and separated through much of their marriage that she probably doesn’t give a rats ass what he does and they probably have some convenient friendship arrangement.
Obama used to smear opponents to get into office, so why not smear someone to stay in office?
Obama “used” to smear? He still does. Obama smeared Bill Clinton with racism to stop him from campaigning for Hillary. Then he used the race card and other smear tactics against HIllary. And we just saw Obama do his Chicago politics on Romney, one of the most clean individuals to run for office. Bain Capital became a dirty word with insinuations of crime and other unlawful acts.
^^ This ^^
Maybe I think the most reasonable scenarios. From what I’ve read, the FBI investigated that Petraeus’s computer had been compromised. That’s how they found affair, and the woman was being investigated for having tried to read files in the computer. Petraeus is not under investigation, but clearly the affair put the security of his “shit” (Movie, Burn After Reading) at risk. That’s why he had to resign. It wasn’t so much that he had the affair, but that he was careless with the security of his “shit”.
I also think that the blackmail by the WH is not unreasonable if the WH wants to make sure that Petraeus is not a viable candidate to compete against the Democrats in 2016. The FBI can say anything to Petraeus regarding the computer, and investigate, knowing full well that there’s nothing to find. The investigation is enough cause to make him resign and destroy any political career he might have.
Growing up, Riverdaughter was traumatized by Christianist fundies. The experience left her susceptible to numerous misconceptions, such as confusing pole-dance feminism with the real thing and mistaking Richard Dawkins for a brilliant thinker.
Most kids are traumatized for one thing or another. I wouldn’t make too much of the religion she grew up with.
I don’t. RD is the one forever going on and on and on about it.
Oh good grief. Then I suppose children who were traumatized by incest or sexual assault shouldn’t make too much of it either. Cuz, you know, most kids are traumatized by one thing or another.
The thing that traumatizes a child is central to the trauma. When they don’t “make too much of it,” the trauma festers. RD has every freakin’ right to express her feelings about her childhood. More power to her.
Actually, I didn’t say anything about RD’s right to express her feelings about her childhood. My comment to DM was a response to his/her suggestion that I am “making too much” of RD’s early religious trauma. But it’s RD herself who quite frequently connects the dots between that trauma and her (in my view) muddled thinking about feminism and atheism. For recent examples, see RD’s series of 2011 posts on Anthony Weiner, and her series of posts on religion from several months ago.
Same thing with the huge “cards cast” number as Boston
Democrats are now the party of rigged elections not just nominations. All of this talk about Hillary in 2016 is bullshit. They will pick a nominee just like they did in 2008. Why bother with primaries or caucuses? And this hand wringing over not having a deep political bench to draw future nominees from is also more garbage. They will just pick some thug who is an apparatchik from the same machine, make up some accomplishments with marketing and install him/her/it.
The only solution to my way of thinking is a complete revamp of the voting system. The feds are not going to do it so the states will have to do so. Voter ID, high tech matching and interface with who shows up at the polls to registration, and low tech paper ballots to keep it anonymous on how each individual votes. Any state officials who oppose reform should be harassed out of office as election cheats and that also goes for fucking judges who enable them.
And any election fraud has a mandatory prison sentence that is LOOONG.
You are right that Hillary won’t run in 2016. The Obots own the party now and the only other group with similar power is the Clintons. No way are they going to let Clinton more power than they have and anyway Hillary doesn’t fit their young brand.
I’m afraid I agree. And we all know that the new rising star in the Obamacrat Party is one Julian Castro. The twin who used his other twin to stand in for him during official event. The reasoning we’ll be told is they’ll have to maintain the Latino vote.
Good Morning Votermom. Looks like we are the only ones up this early lol. I am working on the syllabus for Poverty 101. lol
gotta bring the kids to a school activity soon
if you have a syllabus I’ll make you post it 🙂
Shoot me an email later and I will send you a copy. It is still rough and only the first chapter. Looks like being a series lol. I had lots of practice in my youth!
SCOTUS taking up the Voting Rights Act
http://news.yahoo.com/high-court-look-voting-rights-law-201947650.html
VOTER ID Damnit!
I believe that this is the one issue we should all be working for henceforth. That and getting rid of voting machines. Wisconsin has the easiest system ever: you fill in a blank arrow with a pencil, then its read by scantron. Paper ballots and scantron read — even a high schooler could do it.
Oh fer gawd’s sake. Fascism? As in, mid-twentieth century European fascism? Please. What childish, grandiose self-indulgence. What ludicrous and pretentious nonsense. It really irks me that the right in this country is told to purge its scary people (and well it should) but the so-called left doubles down and rewards its scary people with mainstream pundit columns. That crew needs the grandiose persecution fantasy to justify the increasingly closed ideological bubble they inhabit — ironically, precisely what they accuse their “nazi opponents” of, too. Projection? Who knows.
Those who peddle this kind of grotesque fantasy aren’t merely bigots. Frankly, I consider them fanatics. They’re so invested in their apocalyptic struggle with their evil villains, they’ve become unhinged. I posted at Confluence for a while, and I’m sorry Riverdaughter lost her job, but that’s not a pass to throw your lot in with fanatics. I think there are more than a few people like me, who are convinced that the “left” and “right” in this country are increasingly comprised of completely insane whack jobs. The problem is, the “left” fanatics are the establishment now, despite their melodramatic fantasies as righteous heroes of WWII and the Civil War rolled into one, and they are able to frame their insanity as normalcy.
Wow, this one made me mad. Bringing up Schindler’s List, Riverdaughter? Really? Pathetic, surreal, and ugly.