Open Thread: TGIF, Liz and Dick, The Kennedys Promo Edition

November 25 on Lifetime! For you youngsters, this story will never be topped by TMZ or the Kardashian media. Ever!

For your future planning, The Kennedys movie marathon on Reelz Thanksgiving Day.

Ok, back to your regularly scheduled twinkie, Ricecakes, and other news. What’s up in your neck of the woods? (h/t Al Roker, groan)

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92 Responses to Open Thread: TGIF, Liz and Dick, The Kennedys Promo Edition

  1. DeniseVB says:

    I love our TCH family, and yes, this is still cheaper than therapy.

  2. DeniseVB says:

    This is NOT a boycott link, I don’t believe in boycotts, but if you need one, this is a goodie….,_2012

  3. piper says:

    Sorry Lindsay is a poor substitute for Liz one of my favs – sex appeal, beauty and talent.

    • wyntre says:

      I’ve read the Liz movie is horrible.

      • wyntre says:

        The Lifetime movie starring Lindsay Lohan as Elizabeth Taylor is half train wreck, half “SNL” skit.

        It should come as no great surprise that Lifetime’s Liz & Dick movie starring Lindsay Lohan is spectacularly bad. After all, it’s Lohan, more memorable in the tabloids than she ever was as an actress. No, the mystery here is whether Lifetime actually believed it had a major “television event,” as it says, because this was Lohan’s “highly anticipated comeback movie role,” as the channel’s website notes. Was Lifetime made giddy by the potential, or made blind by it? Most intriguing, did it know that casting Lohan of all people as Elizabeth Taylor would nearly burn Hollywood down — and shock the rest of the country as well, thus ensuring enormous ratings?

  4. I’ve crawled out from under my rock, but I’m still feeling cranky:

    • DM says:

      Cynthia,. I never doubt that those who do evil (what Obama does is evil) will be rewarded according to their deeds. I keep a list of those who injured Hillary in 2008, and the amazing thing is how lady justice has dealt with them. The list includes Ted Kennedy, John and Elizabeth Edwards and many others. Jesse Jackson Jr was recently added to that list. Pelosi’s power was diminished, but I hope there’s more for her. Obama will not be forgotten by lady justice. Maybe he needed to be reelected to get his just dessert.

      • I hope you are right DM—-one of Hillary’s huge donors told me recently that we need to hope that Obama has a good term so that people will be inclined to support Hillary in 2016. There’s some truth to that, but I don’t think I can be on board to wish him well even for that reason.

        • DM says:

          I don’t wish Obama well because I don’t see Hillary running. I’ve been wrong too many times 😦 I saw so much trouble for Obama during the election, and he did, a bad debate, Benghazi, and Sandy. But in the end, he won

      • elliesmom says:

        They say that Karma is a bitch.

  5. votermom says:

    My older kid (2nd yr HS) is finally starting to think seriously about what to go for in college. She’s very good at math, she says she wants to earn lots of money coz she likes to shop.
    I am encouraging her to get major in Math as businesses will always look for people who are proven to be good number crunchers.
    Also, I tell her she will need scholarships.
    Any input?

    • good for her!!!! Must be a chip off the old block….

      • votermom says:

        well, she takes after me in loving shopping, not so much for math … 😆

        • honoracarroll says:

          ‘Loves to shop’ can mean good in business, especially retail. Business majors are big now. Marketing and accounting,etc. My middle child is studying business. She had a summer job in an accounting agency and would amuse her lawyer parents with stories about how interesting the tax code was!!

    • elliesmom says:

      Engineering. I’m good at math, and I love to shop, and it worked out great for me. I ended up in Planning and Operations for a major international corporation designing computer networks and got to spend a multimillion dollar budget every year. When I had put both our kids through college and paid for the weddings, I left to teach. No regrets on either career choice.

      • elliesmom says:

        And women are sought after by engineering schools so the scholarship money is usually pretty good. The Society of Women Engineers does great outreach programs for girls.

      • DM says:

        Yes, I have a relative who’s an engineer. She makes good money

      • angienc says:

        A female engineer can write her own ticket — all companies will jump at chance to hire female engineers — *but* it isn’t a 7 figure thing, more like high 5 figure/low 6 figure. Definitely under the $250k “rich” threshold (as defined by Obama). However, that is with a 4 year degree, and I think you’d be hard pressed to find a career that pays as well right out of college without involving post-graduate schooling.

        Of course, if she gets some experience under her belt & then starts an engineering consulting firm, the possibilities — well, they used to be pretty good, who the hell knows now.

        My dad & brother are both engineers (electrical & civil/environmental respectively) and they make what I would call *comfortable* livings (upper middle class), IMO.

        My dad (who happens to have his ME — masters in engineering) would advise her to do an MBA with her engineering degree because (1) nowadays companies don’t pay as much for MEs like they used to when he started out; and (2) the MBA/Engineering degree combo is super-attractive to employers if she really wants to get into the high salaries at a firm (i.e., going into VP/CEO, etc type positions).

      • leslie says:

        Engineering yes. My daughter did a dual degree of engineering and psychology. She has written her own ticket. Thank goodness because we social workers are worth our weight in gold, but we don’t get anywhere near it. Otherwise, I’d be rich,rich,rich. Tell her to go for it.

    • Erica says:

      Engineering would be good, especailly combined with an MBA. Straight mathematics is also good, but probably best combined with a business degree, unless she wants to teach. But more versatile if she understands business. High level accountants do well, all the ones I know make more than I do as a kid doctor.

    • lorac says:

      Regardless of major, she should make sure to become proficient in English/writing and computers (perhaps that goes without saying!).

      • lorac says:

        I suppose if she is REALLY motivated, she could do an international/ X (fill in X) degree… and maybe learn Chinese lol

    • Glennmcgahee says:

      Engineering. Can’t beat the employment possibilities.

  6. DeniseVB says:

    This is what I love about Open Threads, bring it 😀

  7. angienc says:

    Saw this in comments on AoSHQ & I almost died laughing:

    Old and Busted = It’s Bush’s Fault™

    New Hotness = It’s Romney’s Fault (Patent Pending)

  8. wyntre says:


    I thought I had escaped the nasty black woman Whoopi Goldgerg mentality when I left the Paterson Public Schools but noooooooooo.

    We are a nation run by Whoopi Goldberg and crew.

    I thought it couldn’t get any worse. I was wrong. Now we’ve got the Michelle Obama- Whoopi brigade riding roughshod over white Americans.

    I want to move to Canada. Just take a look at these fugly loud-mouthed incompetent ignorant shrill affirmative action shrews.

  9. wyntre says:

    OK. Now I’m getting furious.

    These same black hags who wouldn’t lift a finger to stand up for HRC when THEY stole delegates from her and gifted them to the pos now want ME to protest the alleged mistreatment of the lying anti-Israel pro-Hamas Bytch Susan Rice??????????

    These black bytches who didn’t defend HRC’s New Hampshire tears but grow giddy at the sight of the pos welling up TWICE when he STOLE the second (s)election in a row now want me to defend them?????????

    Screw them all, the entire fat nasty ugly-faced lot.

    • angienc says:

      Um, your references to their skin color is completely unwarranted are sexist slurs such as “hags” and b*tches.”

      You sound like an idiot & I would ask the mods here to please do something about these last 2 posts.

      Whoppie is an asshole — her gender & skin color have nothing to do with it.

      • roflmao!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • DM says:

        Wyntre is venting some anger.

        • angienc says:

          Gee, ya thing? I’m glad you told me that because I’m too stupid to figure that out.

          I just don’t give a shit — anger is no excuse for racist & sexist remarks.

          If “anger” leads Wyntre to spew that racist, sexist bunk, then I suggest there is a need for self-reflection as s/he might just be a prog — lord knows s/he’d fit right in.

        • Erica says:

          We’ve all been angry, especially after the election. But it’s not an excuse for that kind of name calling. The point could have been made without that, and well.

      • wyntre says:

        No, it sounds like you have swallowed the pc nonsense lock stock and barrel. So take out the adjective “black” from my rant. And then educate yourself and read what these atrocious members of the BLACK CONGRESSIONAL CONGRESS said. If you don’t want to watch the clip here is the transcript. So it’s OK to call McCain a racist but not to say the same about the BCC? Give me a break.

        I would say the term “idiot” is far more applicable to you if you think it’s perfectly acceptable for these black congress women to make the following comments and not be criticized for it. It is clear they are playing the race care. Big time.

        ( – Several House Democrats on Friday attacked Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz) as a racist, a sexist, and said that his criticism of U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Susan Rice amounted to mugging and battering.

        “There is a clear, a clear in my opinion, sexism and racism that goes with these comments that are being made by – unfortunately – Senator McCain and others,” Congressional Black Caucus chairwoman Rep. Marsha Fudge (D-Ohio.) said in a press conference Friday on Capitol Hill.

        “And I strongly stand by that statement.”

        Fudge said that Republican critics of Rice including McCain had never called a man “unqualified” or “not bright”, referring to comments he made on CBS’ This Morning program Thursday.

        Rep. Marcia Fudge (D-Ohio).

        “All of the things that they have disliked about things that have gone on in this administration they have never called a male unqualified, not bright, not trustworthy. I don’t recall it ever happening,” Fudge said.

        During the same press conference, Rep. Gwen Moore (D-Wis.) said that McCain and other “men” should not be allowed to “attack” or “batter this woman” Rice.

        “What unmitigated gall for these men to attack the permanent representative to the United Nations Susan E. Rice,” Moore said.

        “We all understand that all of us have been disappointed in one way or another about the results of the election – but to batter this woman because they don’t feel they have had the ability to batter President Obama is something that we, the women, are not going to stand by and watch.”

        Moore said that because of his criticism of Rice, she no longer considered McCain a “gentleman.”

        “There was a time when I regarded Mr. McCain in particular as a gentleman. I am sad that this is not one of those moments,” she said.

        U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Susan Rice. (AP Photo)
        Ambassador Rice is reportedly on the short list to be nominated to replace Hillary Rodham Clinton as Secretary of State, and on Wednesday, McCain said that he “will do everything in my power to block her (Rice) from being the United States secretary of state.”
        Rice stirred up controversy when she told a series of Sunday talk shows on Sept. 16 that the attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, Libya, five days earlier had been a “spontaneous reaction” to an online video clip denigrating the Prophet Mohammed.
        U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans were killed in the attack, which was subsequently dubbed a terrorist attack.
        McCain told Fox News: “Susan Rice should have known better and if she didn’t know better, she is not qualified. She should have known better.”
        Referring to Rice on “CBS This Morning,” McCain said the ambassador was, at the least, guilty of “not being very bright, because it was obvious that this was not a ‘flash mob’ and there was additional information by the time she went on every news show in America.”
        Graham, on CBS “Face the Nation” on Sunday, had said of Rice: “I think Susan Rice would have an incredibly difficult time getting through the Senate. I would not vote for her unless there’s a tremendous opening up of information explaining herself [on Benghazi] in a way she has not yet done.”

        At a White House press conference on Wednesday, President Obama said if members of Congress have a problem with the way his administration handled the aftermath of the terror attacks – blaming them on an obscure video — they should take their complaints to him:

        “If Senator McCain and Senator Graham and others want to go after somebody, they should go after me. And I’m happy to have that discussion with them,” Obama said.

        “But for them to go after the U.N. ambassador, who had nothing to do with Benghazi and was simply making a presentation based on intelligence that she had received, and besmirch her reputation, is outrageous,” he said.

        In response, Senator Lindsey Graham tweeted: “Mr. President, don’t think for one minute I don’t hold you ultimately responsible for #Benghazi.”


        • angienc says:

          And your so-called “defense” re: the word “black” (not, btw,that I accept it) excuses you calling Michelle & Whoppi bitches, how exactly?

          Here’s some non-PC shit for you: fuck off.

        • angienc says:

          *bitches and hags

  10. wyntre says:

    Hey, f**k you too.

  11. whoa—I completely missed the trajectory of this conversation. Please cancel my “roflmao”

    • angienc says:

      How are you responsible for trajectory of the conversation — I don’t recall anyone responding to you nor did your bon mot of “roflmao” make any substantive difference to it.

    • swanspirit says:

      OK < not a moderator but, no matter how grievous , how racist , how unfair , no response that is racist is appropriate , and I think to simplify , this comes under the two wrongs don't make a right turn category , as much as I agree with the sentiments expressed regarding the racists in congress , to return the fault , even when venting , only invalidates our responses . I have to agree with Angie , on that . I agree with wyntre on the actions and statements of congresswoman Fudge ( her name had to be Fudge ? ) but a racist response to real racism just hurts the responder . Someone has to take the high road . Let it be us .

      • angienc says:

        xoxo Swannie.

        And sexism too — being sexist in fact of their sexism is the same thing.

      • Erica says:

        omg, I went to the same place re: Fudge. Really?!

      • insanelysane says:

        To a degree, political correctness is a matter of perspective.

        I say fuck political correctness .
        Words can’t hurt you unless you are a willing participant.

        • angienc says:

          It’s not being un-PC that I have a problem with — it is sexism & racism that I have a problem with — calling Whoopi & Michelle “black bitches” and “hags” is sexist & racist. Seriously, there is no wiggle room on that.

          And I don’t think “words hurt” — but I do have a problem with people coming on here & making statements that may give others the impression that we here *share* those views.

          I stand by my original statement — Whoopi is an asshole, her skin color & gender have nothing to do with it. Call her a hypocrite (which she is) and point out that as a black woman she should know better than to raise the specter of racism to make such transparently cheap political points.

          See the difference in writing that compared to calling her a “black bitch?” Being “PC” has nothing to do with it.

  12. Mary says:

    Good grief.

  13. Erica says:

    BTW, re: the comments above about McCain and Rice. It looks like McCain is going to take some pounding about his thoughts on Rice, and the race card is being played on him, and it will get nasty. I don’t think he’ll cave though. He respects Hillary way too much to let someone like Rice slide in after her. Hill and McCain made several trips to the ME together–he knows what a stateswoman should be, and Rice doesn’t cut it (in his book, and mine).

  14. Erica says:

    Just read your post over at WW2. Hugs to you. Great post. And I’m feeling/thinking much of the same. Haven’t bought Ani’s book yet, but while reading your piece, I thought I better get on it. Because the rewriting of history that the current media and dems engage in is breathtaking. I want a hard copy, with biblio, so someday I can show it to any friends who still have open minds, and especially to my daughter, so she can understand what can happen when people care more about personalities than the truth.

  15. swanspirit says:

    By barking about the “unfair” treatment of Susan Rice this week the President gave orders to his cult: Make her coming nomination about race and gender. Oppose Rice becoming Secretary of State? You’re a bigoted, sexist, racist, fiend.

    New term. Same Alinsky crap.

  16. DM says:

    I have no doubt that McCain will rise to the occasion. The Republicans have to do something about all the race baiting.

  17. gxm17 says:

    Oh good grief, I have spent the entire day in Bizarro World, also known as the CNN comments section. (For some reason I’ve been able to post there for the past 24 hours. I’m sure that oversight will be corrected soon.) Here’s what I have learned: ObamaNation is stark raving batshit crazy town. And hateful to the point of psychotic. And stupid. Really really stupid.

    Earlier today, after having read another Blame Bush diatribe for the umpteenth time (and I’m all for blaming Bush for what Bush did when he was president), a funny thought crossed my mind: Hmmmm, I wonder when they’re going to just go all in and blame Hoover. And I kid you not, later in the day some progbot brings up Hoover. For. Fucking. Real. Never mind Benghazi, never mind the current freakin’ president, let’s talk about Herbert effing Hoover! Those people are certifiable. It’s like watching a monster truck cluster fuck in slow motion. W. T. F.

  18. myiq2xu says:

    Damn, I hate it when I miss a pie fight.

  19. gxm17 says:

    And my new favorite nic that I coined for Obama today is The People’s Most Glorious Heroic Leader.

    Because, seriously, ObamaNation is that fucking freakshow.

  20. yttik says:

    Take deep breaths everyone! Wax on, wax off…

  21. threewickets says:

    The Gini coefficient is the UN’s standard index for income inequality distribution across populations. In the world, nations with the highest Ginis (most unequal) tend to be poor dysfunctionally plutocratic nations like Guatemala, Malaysia, Angola, etc. But the United States is getting up there in its Gini score especially in recent years which is weird and sad. Within the US, the highest Ginis (most unequal) are New York and DC, the lowest Ginis (least unequal) are Utah and Alaska. Lol. Obots, proven hypocrites every time.

    • angienc says:

      Very interesting. Thanks for info.

      I’m sure with 4 more years of Obama, we’ll be giving Malaysia a “run” for their money — heck that might be the reason for Obama’s weird upcoming travel plans — seriously, wtf is he going to Burma?

      • threewickets says:

        He’s going there to create new jobs in their sweatshops since he can’t seem to create any jobs here in America.

        • angienc says:

          Ha ha! Or maybe learn how the sweatshops work so he can open some here — that “guaranteed job” thing the idiot Obamacons are demanding isn’t going to be plushy white collar gigs.

  22. angienc says:

    Guess what — while the US MSM is obsessing over how terrible it is for McCain to expect a female candidate for the SoS position to be honest with the American people & how terrible Romney’s accurate assessment that politicians pander to core constituents is, Egypt has fired rockets that have hit Israel.

    I swear to God, the SCoaMF is going to be the cause of WW3.

    • yttik says:

      After I read Obama’s book, I predicted he was going to get us into WW3. He’s all idealism without wisdom fueled by a big ego. It’s a terrible combination.

      • threewickets says:

        You also need a strong spine to navigate the Middle East. He doesn’t have that. He has the weasely spine of someone who likes to bow too much and says things like “I’ll have much more flexibility after the election” to Russian puppets.

    • swanspirit says:

      Iran is reportedly ready to boost uranium enrichment . Am I the only one that thinks the increased rocket fire from Gaza is an attempt to Engage Israel elsewhere while Iran enriches uranium ?

      and those complete idiots at Anonymous have cyber attacked Israel ,for their “aggression on Palestine ” according to their bragging they have taken down thousands of Israeli websites .

    • yttik says:

      Ha! Apparently that principal has never rode on a public school bus! After the bullying, anarchy, and complete chaos, public transportation seems downright tame.

  23. Simofish says:

    Ok, just read the entire comment section and I must say AngieNC – you had me in tears of laughter. Spot on- always love your thoughts !!

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