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Accused WikiLeaker Bradley Manning Speaks Publicly for First Time

Private First Class Bradley Manning, the American soldier accused of leaking hundreds of thousands of classified and confidential military and diplomatic documents to the anti-secrecy website WikiLeaks, took the stand in a military court today to make his first public statements since his arrest in 2010.

Manning appeared confident and animated at a pre-trial hearing at Fort Meade in Maryland as he described the mental breakdowns and extreme depression he suffered during his first year in detention, from cells in Iraq and Kuwait to the Marine base at Quantico in Virginia. Within weeks of his arrest, Manning said, he became convinced he was going to die in custody.

“I was just a mess. I was really starting to fall apart,” the 24-year-old former Army intelligence analyst said. Manning said he didn’t remember an incident while in Kuwait where he bashed his head into a wall or another where he fashioned a noose out of a bed sheet as his civilian attorney, David Coombs, said he had, but Manning did say he felt he was “going to die… [in] an animal cage.”

“I certainly contemplated [suicide]. There’s no means, even if the noose… there’d be nothing I could do with it. Nothing to hang it on. It felt… pointless,” he said. Manning had been on suicide watch since late June 2010, a month after his initial arrest in Baghdad.

Manning faces 22 charges related to his alleged use of his access to government computers to download and pass along a trove of confidential government documents and videos to WikiLeaks, including the 2010 mass release of 250,000 State Department cables detailing years of private U.S. diplomatic interactions with the governments and citizens the world over. The unprecedented document dump became known as “Cablegate.”

Earlier this month Coombs wrote on his blog that Manning was willing to plead guilty to some lesser offenses. On Thursday the military judge in the case said eight lesser charges could be reviewed by Manning’s defense attorneys for a potential plea deal, but a response likely won’t be determined until December.


Prison life is unpleasant? Whodathunkit? This has got to be the worst defense since Lyle and Erik Menendez asked for leniency because they were orphans. But then again, when you have nothing else you throw everything at the wall and hope something sticks.

Last time I talked about young PFC Manning I got called a fascist. Well if believing in the rule of law makes me a fascist then so be it. I don’t think Manning deserves the death penalty or even life in prison.

But what he did does deserve punishment. He broke the law. Don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time.


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38 Responses to Boo-fucking-hoo

  1. myiq2xu says:

    What is really pathetic is that at least 90% of the Manning supporters don’t blame his commander in chief for the situation he is in.

    • DeniseVB says:

      And 10% of us are waiting for the CinC’s sealed state senate and college records “leaked” from the wiki scoundrels. Yawn. 😉

      Had Obama lost the election, I’m sure Manning was on the Preezy Pardon list with the rest of those under the bus. (Blagho, Rezko?)

    • myiq2xu says:

      If Dubya was still in office they would be protesting outside the White House every day.

      BTW – kinda funny how this case disappeared from the news for the last six months, ain’t it?

  2. angienc says:

    Prison life is unpleasant? Whodathunkit? This has got to be the worst defense since Lyle and Erik Menendez asked for leniency because they were orphans. But then again, when you have nothing else you throw everything at the wall and hope something sticks.

    Hey, we just watched the SCoaMF win 51% of the electorate running on Big Bird and “free” birth control — so what the fuck do we know?

  3. angienc says:

    Don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time — don’t do it!

  4. DeniseVB says:

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  5. carol haka says:

    If someone doesn’t take control of the situations we are in, something irreversible is going to fuck us all for an eternity! I’m not going down without a fight! 👿

  6. carol haka says:

    I’m willing to give him a medal if he will break open a few more files and expose every lying cheating pos in the world. Done and Done. 👿

  7. DeniseVB says:

    Since this thread is already NSFW (language), a tribute to myiq’s gravtar:

  8. yttik says:

    He didn’t just “commit a crime,” he put a lot of people in danger. He didn’t review everything he was leaking or consider the implications it would have on individuals. He didn’t know who Wikileaks were or what their intentions were. Much of the info was trivial personal diplomatic conversations between individuals, but he didn’t care if he might have started a war.

    What astounds me about the whole thing, Private Manning and Wikileaks. is that the entire purpose of leaking classified info is to expose something illegal or unethical in the hopes of creating change. Their whole point seems to be simply to expose things for the sake of exposing things. Perhaps attempting to embarrass the US? I don’t know what their point was but they remind me of OWSies whose whole point seems to be to protest….something. So we now live in a world where people protest just to protest and leak info just to be leakers. It’s weird! Of course we just elected a President who is comprised of nothing but these empty concepts, almost like icons with nothing behind them. Change hope, protest! But ask people what kind of a world they are trying to create and they’re like, huh?? Don’t harsh my mellow man, I’m being all hip and radical.

  9. insanelysane says:

    Since I am and always have been an Anti-establishment type, I say the more we see how those bastards in power work the better it is for average Joe. Too much information is never bad. They have no right to their back room deals and under the table power.
    Free Bradley Manning.
    Imprison Obama.

    • myiq2xu says:

      So it’s okay to break the law if you have good intentions?

      • carol haka says:

        When the Republic is at stake! 👿

      • insanelysane says:

        Is it OK to break the law to expose lawlessness?

        Should a whistleblower , or an undercover cop break the law to catch the bad guy?

        Should the FBI break the law to stop a terrorist?

        Should a president have a kill list?

        • yttik says:

          Have we exposed any lawlessness? Seriously, I can’t find one single piece of valuable information released by Wikileaks.

        • myiq2xu says:

          Manning isn’t trying to argue that he did the right thing by breaking the law.

        • angienc says:

          Neither whistle blowing nor undercover work is “breaking the law.”
          The FBI shouldn’t break the law — nor should anyone else (including Manning).
          Identifying the top leaders of the people you are at war with isn’t illegal in & of itself.

          You seem to not understand the difference between agencies/people operating under laws you don’t like and “breaking the law.”

    • Underwhelmed says:

      In other words, the ends justify the means. And that’s okay with you if they’re your ends. You’ll turn a blind eye to the means. But this is how the bad things happen – when we say oh it’s okay if my team does it because we’re the *good guys*.

      Sorry. If it’s wrong it’s wrong.

      And if you really believe it’s right, but you have to break the law to do it? Fine. Break the law. Then go to prison, because you can’t claim you didn’t know it was illegal. And hopefully the law will be changed to reflect the injustice of laws being used to protect the guilty from the consequences of their crimes.

      But don’t try and sell me a bucket of shit like oh, I don’t like Da Man, so anything you do against Da Man is good. Because innocent people always get ground up in the cogs of your self-righteous machine.

      • angienc says:

        THIS.

      • insanelysane says:

        Please, tell me none of you have broken laws ?
        What are the excuses you use?

        • myiq2xu says:

          “The woman tempted me”

        • carol haka says:

          Problem is, the leaks expose the government employees that are breaking the law. Anyone heard the word “Benghazi”? Why is there such a coverup if they weren’t breaking the law? How about the chemical peeps in Jordan looking for wmd in Jordan – 20 tons that may have shown up from Syria. Anyone think those may have been moved there from iraq years ago? I do. Look at asswipes like Carter and Brezinski and the shit storm we have to live with.their ignorant egos arming the fucking Afghans. Enough is enough for these creeps. When I earned a Presden’s Club trip to Marth’s hVineyard/Cape Cod they toured us around the area. The biggest most expensive

        • carol haka says:

          The most expensive and largest property belonged to the creep that sold landmines. It made me sick. 👿

  10. insanelysane says:

    Who owns information?

  11. Kim says:

    Regardless of your opinion about releasing “classified” information, Manning has yet to be found guilty of anything. Yet he has been held in deplorable conditions for two years. That’s okay just because you don’t like him?

    • myiq2xu says:

      He was not chained up in a dungeon. He had food, water and a warm bed. He was not beaten or tortured. He was allowed to have visitors and to watch television.

      He is accused of very serious offenses and is considered a security risk. He was put on a suicide watch after talking about . . . suicide.

    • myiq2xu says:

      Here is how his own attorney described his “deplorable” conditions:

      A Typical Day for PFC Bradley Manning

      PFC Manning is currently being held in maximum custody. Since arriving at the Quantico Confinement Facility in July of 2010, he has been held under Prevention of Injury (POI) watch.

      His cell is approximately six feet wide and twelve feet in length.

      The cell has a bed, a drinking fountain, and a toilet.

      The guards at the confinement facility are professional. At no time have they tried to bully, harass, or embarrass PFC Manning. Given the nature of their job, however, they do not engage in conversation with PFC Manning.

      At 5:00 a.m. he is woken up (on weekends, he is allowed to sleep until 7:00 a.m.). Under the rules for the confinement facility, he is not allowed to sleep at anytime between 5:00 a.m. and 8:00 p.m. If he attempts to sleep during those hours, he will be made to sit up or stand by the guards.

      He is allowed to watch television during the day. The television stations are limited to the basic local stations. His access to the television ranges from 1 to 3 hours on weekdays to 3 to 6 hours on weekends.

      He cannot see other inmates from his cell. He can occasionally hear other inmates talk. Due to being a pretrial confinement facility, inmates rarely stay at the facility for any length of time. Currently, there are no other inmates near his cell.

      From 7:00 p.m. to 9:20 p.m., he is given correspondence time. He is given access to a pen and paper. He is allowed to write letters to family, friends, and his attorneys.

      Each night, during his correspondence time, he is allowed to take a 15 to 20 minute shower.

      On weekends and holidays, he is allowed to have approved visitors see him from 12:00 to 3:00 p.m.

      He is allowed to receive letters from those on his approved list and from his legal counsel. If he receives a letter from someone not on his approved list, he must sign a rejection form. The letter is then either returned to the sender or destroyed.

      He is allowed to have any combination of up to 15 books or magazines. He must request the book or magazine by name. Once the book or magazine has been reviewed by the literary board at the confinement facility, and approved, he is allowed to have someone on his approved list send it to him. The person sending the book or magazine to him must do so through a publisher or an approved distributor such as Amazon. They are not allowed to mail the book or magazine directly to PFC Manning.

    • myiq2xu says:

      The Fort Hood killer hasn’t been convicted of anything but he’s still locked up.

      • carol haka says:

        Do hyou think someone like him was capable of this crime by himself? How much info would have been released anyway after the dirty players decided we could have have a look at it. I like transparency on everything oter than the mos5t critical info that would put someone in danger and I’m not the liberal. I especially want to see what they don’t want the little people to see. 👿

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