Thursday Morning Open Thread


I stayed up late watching old episodes of Justified so I didn’t write a post. Sue me.

BTW – The new season of Justified starts January 8th.

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77 Responses to Thursday Morning Open Thread

  1. myiq2xu (D) says:

    We’ll have weekly viewing parties when the new season starts. That’s a hint for everyone to catch up on seasons 1-3 before then.

    • myiq2xu (D) says:

      It’s not Breaking Bad, but it’s pretty damn good.

      • elliesmom says:

        I don’t know. I lost a whole week of my life catching up on “Breaking Bad”. “Doing a Walt” has become a catch phrase in our house. I got my son to watch, too, and now every time he comes into my kitchen, he says, “What’s cookin’, Mom?” and starts laughing.

    • Underwhelmed says:

      I love Justified too, big time. Only I have to say, I was a bit disappointed with last season. It felt like Raylan as a guest recurring character in his own story.I hope they up his presence a lot this time.

    • catarina says:

      Just watched the first 3 episodes of Breaking Bad (season 1.)
      A few questions:

      1. It’s moving a bit slow. Do things pick up a bit at some point?

      2. Re: Walt in his tighty whities. Will there be much more of that? Yuck.

      Thanks in advance.

    • votermom says:

      It’s not on netflix. 😦

  2. tommy says:

    Anybody read the article by Greg Robb in thetell blog at WSJ? Scary crap. New data points that we’re at the beginning phase of another recession? I can’t understand all that data gobblygook. Can one of economic pointyheads peeps take a look and check out if its true?

  3. tommy says:

    Bad myiq. Didn’t write a post. Thats like DWI. If we sue, will we get sumthin?

  4. The weather man is showing cold cold cold for the rest of the week- and a possibility of up to a foot of the white stuff tomorrow! Dare I hope?

  5. tommy says:

    ‘No buddies in the battle of the brews – They’ve been arguing about a name for 106 years. A small brewer in the Czech Republic and the world’s biggest beer maker have been suing each other over the right to put the word Budweiser on their bottles in what has become a David versus Goliath corporate saga. A deal, it seems, will have to wait a bit longer because settlement talks between stateowned Budejovicky Budvar and Anheuser-Busch, a US company now part of AB InBev, have collapsed. The dispute is over exclusive rights – when only one of the companies is allowed to use the Budweiser name in any given country. As a larger company, AB InBev is particularly keen to expand its exports and market its beers under the Budweiser brand. But Budvar says that giving up its exclusive rights to the name would threaten to wipe out its own brand from the market. The brewers last agreed on a global settlement in 1939 in a pact that gave Anhauser-Busch sole rights to the name Budweiser in all American territories north of Panama. But the peace did not last long as the 2 companies expanded exports to new markets. Though AB InBev is far larger than Budvar, the Czech company has been punching above its weight in the legal arena. It won 88 of the 124 disputes between 2000 and 2011 and holds exclusive rights in 68 countries, preventing AB InBev from entering some key markets. Co-existence is possible: the 2 companies already share the Budweiser name in Britain. Both brewers were granted the right to use the name in 2000 after a British court ruled that drinkers were aware of the difference. The companies’ claims to the Budweiser name are built on 2 main arguements – geography and history. Budejovicky Budvar was founded in 1895 in the southern city of Ceske Budejovice – called Budweis at the time by the german speaking people who formed about 40% of the area’s population. Beer has been brewed here since 1265 and has been known for centuries as Budweiser’. Lol. As usual, Busch is to blame.

    • DandyTiger says:

      I had heard a little of that, but didn’t know any details. Now there’s a long legal battle. Makes Apple vs. Samsung look like small potatoes. Thanks.

  6. gxm17 says:

    Thanks for the head up, myiq! Just last night, my husband asked: When’s the new season of Justified start?

    I know it’s heresy around here, but I like it better than Breaking Bad.

  7. HELENK says:

    GMTA. last night I went to the website to find out when Justified would be starting. I do like that show

    why are all the good shows on Tuesday??

  8. driguana says:

    actual time for winter solstice tomorrow

    • yttik says:


      LOL, we really look forward to winter solstice. You wouldn’t think that a few minutes more daylight makes much of a difference, but it does! Until solstice it really does start to feel as if the world were ending and the sun has decided to abandon us. Yesterday I was worried about the kid being out so late, but when I looked at the clock it was 4:30 in the afternoon.

      • driguana says:

        In my family and circle of friends we celebrate each solstice and equinox around a outdoor fire. We have done this for over 30 years. The hardest one to get everyone together for is always the winter solstice. It’s 8 degrees here right now so tomorrow is going to be another tough one….thinkin’ given the nature of the events, it’s going to be a very big fire!!!

      • swanspirit says:

        Solstice is wonderful, it really does mean return of the light , !!

  9. tommy says:

    TCH moving at a snails pace today. Whats up? The peeps getting organized for the doomsday tomorrow?

  10. Am staying with son and wife at air Force base in Hawaii, and will have to look at Air Force One from my window when O arrives. Plane will be parked there for the duration. I travel 5000 miles and can’t get rid of him. like that piece of tp on your shoe….

    But he ain’t going to mess up my non-white Chritmas!!

  11. DeniseVB says:

    If anyone’s bored, you can read John Kerry’s statement on what we learned from Benghazi ….. yawn.

    • catarina says:

      Without clinking through and actually reading it, what I learned from Benghazi is that Hillary Clinton will hide from Congress and refuse to take responsibility when it suits her.

      • DeniseVB says:

        Wonder why they didn’t get a deposition ? She’s not in a coma.

        I’m also worried she’s been so ill for so long now, can’t her attending doctor release a little medical statement? It’s what’s fueling her critics with ” lie! and coverup!”.

      • cj says:

        Yep, Obamanization completed & successful. Pity, I expected so much more from her.

      • Underwhelmed says:

        Heartbreaking. Then again, makes you wonder what she’d have done if she had won in ’08. Lack of character is lack of character. And I never thought I’d say that about her.

      • swanspirit says:

        I remember when Obummer said about Hillary “Who does she think she is , Annie Oakley ?” I still despise him for those things he said , but I am deeply disappointed in Hillary .I keep thinking she doesn’t want to lie under oath , but that is still such a cop out .

  12. tommy says:

    This is interesting. ‘Yogurt turns big in US with $450 mn factory – Chobani, the yogurt company that grew from nothing 5 years ago to a roughly $1 billion powerhouse today, on monday, formally opened one of the world’s largest yogurt processing plants in Twin Falls, Idaho. “I’m so excited,” said Hamdi Ulukaya, founder and chief executive of Chobani. “I’ve been waiting for this moment for so long”. The $450 million, 1 million square foot plant is the companys second. It will employ 300 people, and Ulukaya said for every 10 jobs it creates directly, it is expected to create 66 additional jobs in ancillary business. “The state expects the total economic impact of our business to be $1.3 billion,” he said. The new plant is yet another sign of America’s growing appetite for yogurt and its willingness to embrace new brands over old, as evidenced by Chobani’s explosive growth as well as that of Fage, and now, Muller Quaker Dairy, a joint venture between PepsiCo and Unternehmensgruppe Theo Muller, a privately held German dairy company’. Stories like this give me hope.

  13. votermom says:

  14. votermom says:

    OMG it really is the end of the world – ABC airs commonsense school security recommendations

  15. votermom says:

    as an ex Secret Service guy, he knows about security

  16. HELENK says:

    one of my favorite sites

  17. piper(?) says:

    Thy name is hypocrisy

    To set a good example all members of Congress and Hollyweirds should turn in their weapons as well as their security bodyguards’ before blathering nonsensical statements. The talk / discussion should be about mental illness / treatment but then if all the lunatics were locked up who would run the government (stolen).

  18. HELENK says:

    not sure if this will work. trying to bring a video I received on facebook to here. using embedding

  19. tommy says:

    I’ve 10-14 hours ahead of you. Like I like to say, I’m in your future. Lol. And I’m in touch with the TCH community. If its the end of the world, I’ll describe it in lurid detail. No problemo.

  20. HELENK says:

    US Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid says Senate will not take up any ‘fiscal cliff’ measures House plans to pass on Thursday – @Reuters

    other than wasting time and being an obstructionist why is this man in the senate

  21. HELENK says:

    per holder

    backtrack has the right to issue executive order on gun control????????

  22. conner says:

    All this talk of ‘waiting’ for shows, reminds me of how long I’ve been waiting for the return of Downton Abby..If you are not yet hooked, watch for a few minutes, and you will be an addict too.

    • Underwhelmed says:

      If you don’t want to wait, and you have a multizone dvd player, you can grab the 3rd season now from

      It’s great, a vast improvement on season 2 which I think floundered badly. But YMMV.

  23. swanspirit says:

    Something got into me this morning and I wrote this

    Every big mouth opinionated person on TV , politician , and all the self appointed ( read an article on the internet ; reposted it on facebook ) experts , have something to say about the Newtown tragedy. They expound on gun control , mental health care ,medications , video games ,violence in the culture , school safety and security , and what “we need to do” . I know I am already tired of people screaming at me from my tv , and right into my ears .
    Many are reacting in grief , with anger , outrage , helplessness and sorrow , and projecting their own reactions and out of control feelings onto the rest of us . We all want to reach back in time and undo this unspeakable act , but all we can do is grieve , and try and prevent any other such event .

    Humanity has always protected children from danger , from lions , tigers, bears, and even Golden eagles. We protect them from disease , from the weather , and from other humans . Our survival as a species depends upon it . To turn that instinct 180 degrees to cause harm to children is so alien to most people , that it defies understanding .Whether harm to a child comes from a parent , family member , or other human being, we cannot wrap our brains around it . Harm from natural predators , we understand , from weather and natural disasters , we understand . We don’t like it , but we understand on a certain level.

    From other human beings , we do not want to have to understand.

    But how many people have ever dealt with someone who was angry , and determined to cause hurt ,and retaliated by hurting something precious and dear? Someone who wants to cause hurt feelings by breaking a favorite toy, smashing a dish , or some other inanimate object , just for spite ? When someone lashes out in anger , and is also disconnected from reality and humanity , and is lacking feelings of empathy , they can hurt other humans . Some people are so disconnected from their own feeling they inflict pain on themsleves and or others just to feel something , anything .

    On the scale such as we have endured from the Newtown tragedy , this feels unendurable. So we react as well . We want to DO SOMETHING , anything, to fix our feelings of pain and helplessness .

    Sometimes all we can do is feel those feelings and get through them , before we can get to any rational and real solutions that actually do something for prevention of just such another tragedy . We can realize that while we cannot prevent everything , but if we prevent any , that is a worthy goal . But I think we need to allow ourselves to process some of those feelings , and just grieve , before we can get to some realistic expectations and actions.

    And most importantly we need to give the families involved space and time to grieve .

    The one area that I can comfortably discuss with some knowledge is mental health care and medications . Many of the perpetrators of mass killings were either receiving care and or medications , or in withdrawal from them. While such violent events are not yet common occurrences , withdrawal from medications is everyday in mental health care .

    People on medications are so routinely admitted to psychiatric units for medication adjustments it is commonly referred to as a “tune up”. Part of this is because for every person that acts out violently , there are literally thousands upon thousands of people who are able to live their lives just because of their medications , especially the modern antipsychotics.
    As recently as two decades ago, all we had to offer the mentally ill in the way of medications were thorazine and its cousins; and other such heavy medications , that impairment from the direct and side effects of those medications made any kind of independent life impossible. Who remembers the term “Thorazine shuffle”; a derogatory term applied to patients who could barely walk under the influence of such meds .Now , modern medications reduce or eliminate the symptoms of psychosis , with very little impairment of other functions , and few side effects ; and even those are manageable.

    While this is good for so many , it is true , as with every other medication , there will be individuals for whom these medications do not work , or worse have an opposite effect , or paradoxical reaction. A paradoxical reaction is simply ,when say a pain medication , instead of relieving pain , causes an increase in pain.

    Any medication can cause paradoxical reaction , depending on the individual , and can be unpredictable. So how do we come to a solution where medications are concerned?
    Increased supervision when meds are prescribed , changed , or adjusted in any way might be one way to go . Developing and maintaining supervision of people taking medication is another. This doesn’t , in this day and age even have to be intrusive or involve a doctors visit , this could be done with home visits by nurses , telephone check ups , or skype , if the technology is available. Skype check ups are already being utilized by some health care systems .

    Developing ways to determine if patients are predisposed to violence , and I really think we need to look more closely at those markers , in people with diagnoses of thought disorders and personality disorders, is another way we can hope to indentify people who are high risk for violence .

    Predisposition to violence is a marker that has to be examined more closely .We need a diagnostic tool , or diagnostic screening instrument , to help identify a basis for treatment and reporting for violence. Even with sociopaths , predisposition to violence is a marker that can and really has to be examined more closely .

    Gettings our own feelings in balance , not demonizing people with “other ” ideas , but bringing them on board with rational effective solutions is also a goal we can work toward , if we put down some of those defenses and just talk to each other .

    Let us not let the screamers and yellers deprive us of our peace so we can grieve as we need and
    shout us away from real effective solutions .

  24. HELENK says:

    a family project for when it stops snowing

  25. votermom says:

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