It’s Not Chauvinism If She’s Really Stupid


I came back from limbo for this?

Joe Scarborough and Mika Brzezinski had a huge fight on Thursday’s “Morning Joe.”

The blowup came after the two argued repeatedly about the diversity in President Obama’s cabinet, which has become an issue in recent days as one white man after another is nominated to top positions. Scarborough said that a Republican would be facing far more criticism than a Democrat for such actions. Brzezinski defended Obama, saying he had had women at all levels of his government and that his policies had benefited women.

Scarborough began jokingly mentioning things like the Lily Ledbetter act under his breath. Brzezinski grew increasingly angry.

“You need to be quiet right now,” she said, before really taking the plunge.

“I’m actually trying to ignore the — I’m afraid to use the word, because it will not be good for you, because you’re being chauvinistic right now,” she said. “It’s not funny.”

“You’re calling the wrong guy a chauvinist,” Scarborough said angrily, as Brzezinski laughed. She started to turn away, and he snapped his fingers at her to get her to pay attention.

“Stop! Let me help you,” she said. “No! Let me help you,” he snapped back. “You really, knowing me and seeing me work around here for five years, you want to call me a chauvinist on television?”

“I said the way you’re acting is chauvinistic, especially the way you were handling this conversation,” she said. “It’s not funny.”


Oh my, stop the presses! Joe treated Mika like she’s stupid.

Guess what? She IS stupid. (That’s pretty much a job requirement to work at MSNBC.)

Merriam-Webster:

chau·vin·ism
noun \ˈshō-və-ˌni-zəm\
Definition of CHAUVINISM
1: excessive or blind patriotism — compare jingoism

2: undue partiality or attachment to a group or place to which one belongs or has belonged

3: an attitude of superiority toward members of the opposite sex; also : behavior expressive of such an attitude


It’s only chauvinism if he treats her that way because she’s a woman.

This is one of my pet peeves. It’s playing the gender card.

Sexism and misogyny are bad things. So is racism. But equality means nobody gets a free pass. There are lots of dumbasses out there. Some of them are women and/or minorities. Women and minorities have an equal right to be called out for stupidity just like white men.


Stupid is as stupid does.” – Mrs. Gump


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56 Responses to It’s Not Chauvinism If She’s Really Stupid

  1. it’s difficult being a woman who has spent alot of time over the years working for women’s advancement, but the truth of the matter is—-I just can’t stand watching Mika no matter what comes out of her mouth.

    • myiq2xu (D) says:

      To me what matters isn’t who says it, it’s what they say. I have worked with and for some very smart women in my life. I have also worked with and for some very stupid men.

      My mother is smart. My sister is smart. My grandma did crosswords with a pen when she was in her 70’s. All three of my kids are highly intelligent but my daughter is off-the-charts smart.

    • swanspirit says:

      ^^THAT^^ and she is sooooo stupid and condescending and contributes less than nothing to any conversation

    • Constance says:

      I agree, she just sort of poses and wags her head and then announces the commercial breaks. I can’t watch the show any more. I am just unable to listen to liberal Democrat women engaged in their justification of Team Obama sexism. It is all I can do to keep from sneering “you are such a fool”

  2. myiq2xu (D) says:

  3. DeniseVB says:

    Well Mika, this photo really advanced women being treated with dignity and repsect ? Can only imagine what message you were sending to Joe here…….

    • myiq2xu (D) says:

      Meh.

      Women can be smart AND sexy. They shouldn’t have to dress and act like nuns to get respect.

      • angienc (D) says:

        Being”sexy” doesn’t mean you’re required to get a Brazillian wax to pose for PR stills for the NEWS show you host while your male co-host is at least 15 lbs overweight & gets to wear pants.
        The fact that he also gets paid twice as much as she does for the same job pretty much rules out the “smart” too.

      • DeniseVB says:

        Megyn Kelly. The ladies on The Five. I’m fans of them all.

        I think what Mika did wrong was play the gender card when she was losing the debate. It seems to be a weakness on the left, and it doesn’t help, nor did the publicity photo ask to be taken seriously.

      • swanspirit says:

        It is a stupid pose .

        • swanspirit says:

          Better yet , how about Mika sits in the chair and Joe gets up on the table and sticks his naked legs up in the air .. Just picture it , and then tell me it isn’t a stupid pose .for a “journalist “

        • Constance says:

          I find women who grovel for male audience approval intolerable. The pose is what I would expect of an MSNBC publicity shot. And yeah, lets switch, Mika sits with her pants on and Joe does the table top leg spread.

    • yttik says:

      Of course women should dress any way they want, but still, after a while it gets tiresome always seeing women exposed or half naked. It’s a little bit like always seeing people in black face, acting goofy. Maybe it doesn’t justify oppression, but it sure doesn’t encourage respect and dignity either.

    • Mary says:

      Mika is the same “journalist” who, when asked who her favorite founding father was, answered Abraham Lincoln. (cough)

      I saw this argument this morning, Myiq. Mika was waaaay out of line…..Joe was seriously angry….everyone else sat absolutely still.
      They missed the next segment, but on the one after that, both back—-Mika apologized to Joe.

    • jesus christ on a ham cracker. that’s ridiculous. It’s like she was ASKING to be paid less!

  4. yttik says:

    It’s just incredible watching women these days actually attack people who suggest maybe the President could do a little better when it comes to equality.

    Women have always been their own worst enemy. I remember all the women defending Anthony Weiner They didn’t personally know him and he was being accused of something quite common, but they were still sure it was a set up. No one from our party could ever do anything wrong, because we’re all superior.

    So, here we are. Obama could repeal the 19th amendment and there would be women out there telling us it’s for our own good.

    • myiq2xu (D) says:

      I was surprised to learn that 100 years ago not all women supported the suffrage movement.

      • HELENK says:

        some women are really afraid of smart women that show they are smart. If you can sit down and have an intelligent conversation with a man and other women some consider that a threat. I have never figured out why this is so

  5. fif says:

    She’s on my “refuse to watch” list. I can’t bear the sound of her voice, her stupidity, her reactive, predictive opinions, and her all around annoying presence. She a prime example (among many others) of my continual refrain: “How the hell does she have that job?” Daddy dearest (oops–I guess that’s sexist too. That’s ok, bring it on sister!)

    • Karma says:

      I can’t watch her either. It’s still like nails on the chalkboard. The way she would undermine any positive conversations on Hillary’s campaign with eye-rolls, huge sighs, interrupting, and floating Obama’s lies, she has some nerve trying to pretend she is fighting the good fight for women.

    • DeniseVB says:

      How do you think Andrea Mitchell stays employed ? She never “spoke for me” even in my darkest vile prog days.

      Though I’m sensing a pattern from the lefty pundits, instead of defending Obama pull the race, gender and Bush cards. Sad, really.

  6. HELENK says:

    http://weaselzippers.us/2013/01/10/salon-hack-joan-walsh-gops-fault-obama-picked-an-all-male-cabinet/

    I brought this up from downstairs. Here is another example of a female that is a total embarrassment to the gender

  7. myiq2xu (D) says:

    2 Arigata-meiwaku (Japanese): An act someone does for you that you didn’t want to have them do and tried to avoid having them do, but they went ahead anyway, determined to do you a favor, and then things went wrong and caused you a lot of trouble, yet in the end social conventions required you to express gratitude

    http://sobadsogood.com/2012/04/29/25-words-that-simply-dont-exist-in-english/

  8. myiq2xu (D) says:

  9. myiq2xu (D) says:

    • myiq2xu (D) says:

      I think it’s a good law.

      President Barack Obama signed a bill into law on Thursday guaranteeing himself Secret Service protection for the rest of his life.

      White House press secretary Jay Carney said Obama signed the “Former Presidents Protection Act of 2012” on Thursday. The law affects Obama, former President George W. Bush and future presidents, who under current law would only be protected for 10 years after leaving office.

      According to the press secretary’s office, the law “restores lifetime Secret Service protection of former Presidents who did not serve as President prior to January 1, 1997, and their spouses; and provides for protection of all children of former Presidents until they become 16 years of age.”

      Republican South Carolina Rep. Trey Gowdy introduced the bill in the House.

      • votermom says:

        Does Bill Clinton already get lifetime protection? (Imma confused)

        • myiq2xu (D) says:

          Dear Imma Confused:

          They changed the law in 1997 but it didn’t apply to Clinton or his predecessors. Now they changed it back.

        • DeniseVB says:

          Thought the same thing. Back to GWB and prior to 1997 makes no sense. Bill was Pres til 2000. Would have been simpler to say “for all former living Presidents….?”

      • DeniseVB says:

        Ok, on a related note. My son’s a (***) works for the (***) and just got certified as an instructor at a local DC ski resort. I know my son, his day job is stressful enough, but to take on a second job and give up his weekends (and by local ski resort, it’s a 90 minute drive or more, it’s in PA). He said he’s doing it for the extra money and free lift passes and hotel for the family all weekend. Hmmmmm?

        My FB friends from here may have seen my post mentioning this, it was a test to see if he’d make me remove it, he hasn’t.

        So now I’m curious to who will be taking lessons from a dude packing a glock?

        Mom tinfoil hat off.

        • HELENK says:

          someone who has enough sense to understand the sometimes a gun can save your life. Also who knows your son has enough sense to know when to use it

  10. swanspirit says:

    Speaking of stupid , Charlie Rangel on MSNBecause They Are Idiots TV said regarding POTUS picks ( I am paraphrasing) ..It doesn’t matter about the economy as long as we have someone like Obama and others in office so that little black children can see their faces and know if they make or get a few million they can run for office too . ….

    I think he doesn’t even realize what he actually said , and I am certain there are a “few million” out there who think the exact same thing .

    I call it Marion Barry syndrome . It doesn’t matter if the person is a crook , a crack addict ,an incompetent , a drunk, a liar, a cheat traitor ,or a thief , as long as they “represent” it is good to have them in office .
    go ahead , someone call me a racist ..

  11. myiq2xu (D) says:

    Ezra Klein:


    Loyal Joe Biden Is a Presidential Contender

    For a 70-year-old man, U.S. Vice President Joe Biden sure spends an awful lot of time winning the Internet. No other living politician has quite the same ratio of words spoken to memes inspired. Last week’s contribution was the patter of joyously weird, occasionally creepy, one-liners he threw off while swearing in the 113th Senate.

    {{facepalm}}

    • elliesmom says:

      Weird and creepy are good descriptors. Fortunately for us, sitting Vice President’s are seldom elected President.

    • HELENK says:

      does anyone else feel nothing but embarrassment that this guy is the vice president of this country? I get the feeling that he is an inside joke to the backtrack bunch who dislike this country

  12. DeniseVB says:

    Sidebar: You guys really have to go lurk over at dkos and du to realize what we’re up against. Sad. Clueless. Even the poor schmuck who questioned his paycheck deduction on du became a target, “because, s/he asked questions before!” Skinner is happy, more hits for the DU. Cha-ching.

    • yttik says:

      I can’t even peek. Seriously, that much stupidity in my life is bad for my health.

      I actually had to sign a paper acknowledging that the payroll tax had increased, in order to pick up my paycheck. What got to me was that it said,” I consent…..” I crossed it off and wrote, I DO NOT consent. Now I’ve given the girls in the office a headache, but geesh, consent implies choice and taxes are not a choice!

      I’m not going to consent to anything, even though I think the payroll holiday was a scam that did more harm to SS and had little or no benefit for the poor.

  13. gdaddo says:

    Mika was vile towards Hillary during the 2008 primary. I remember her gleefully announcing that one of her Hillary-supporting friends had finally “switched over”. Middle-aged Mika’s breathlessly confided that her equally middle-aged friend had worn an “Obama Girl” tee shirt to a weekend barbaque.

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