And so it begins…


We interrupt Myiq’s birthday celebration to announce that David Frum is being, well, David Frum. Which is to say a kool-aid-schwilling Clintonian-deranged swing-hitter whose major job appears to be cock-blocking female candidates and appearing very serious, indeed. Here’s his case against Hillary Clinton, 2016:

Hillary Clinton came second in the nomination fight of 2008. If she were a Republican, that would make her a near-certainty to be nominated in 2016. Five of the past six Republican nominees had finished second in the previous round of primaries. (The sixth was George W. Bush, son of the most recent Republican president.)

Democrats, by contrast, prefer newcomers. Six of their eight nominees since 1972 had never sought national office before.

Obviously, past performance is no guarantee of future results. Democrats chose the next guy in line in 2000 — Vice President Al Gore — and they may well do so again. But speaking from across the aisle, it’s just this one observer’s opinion that Democrats would be poorly served by following the Republican example when President Obama’s term ends.

Hillary Clinton is 14 years older than Barack Obama. A party has never nominated a leader that much older than his immediate predecessor. (The previous record-holder was James Buchanan, 13 years older than Franklin Pierce when the Democrats chose him in 1856. Runner-up: Dwight Eisenhower, 12 years older than his predecessor, Thomas Dewey.)

Parties have good reasons to avoid reaching back to politicians of prior generations. When they do, they bring forward not only the ideas of the past, but also the personalities and the quarrels of the past.

One particular quarrel that a Hillary Clinton nomination would bring forward is the quarrel over the ethical standards of the Clinton White House — and, maybe even more, of the Clintons’ post-White House careers. Relying on Hillary Clinton’s annual financial disclosure reports, CNN reported last year that former President Bill Clinton had earned $89 million in speaking fees since leaving the White House in 2001. Many of these earnings came from foreign sources. In 2011 alone, the former president earned $6.1 million from 16 speeches in 11 foreign countries.


Yet the biggest risk to Democrats from a Hillary Clinton nomination is not that it would be generationally backward-looking — or that it would reopen embarrassing ethical disputes — but that it would short-circuit the necessary work of party renewal.

To recap, Frum is opposed to Hillary running because:

a) Hillary is not new enough

b) Hillary is too old

c) Bill makes too much money all over the world

D) Hillary is too old

Fuck David Frum. A Russert-style heart attack is too good for him, but judging by his pictures he’s working on it nonetheless. Eat more steak, Davy. Lots more. Fucktard, wish-casting, scum of the earth asshole. And that’s how I REALLY feel.

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47 Responses to And so it begins…

  1. myiq2xu says:

    It’ll get worse before it gets better, assuming it ever gets better.

    CDS never dies.

    • Jadzia says:

      What a fucking scumbag. IIRC, he is yet another product of Hyde Park. (So sorry.) I do not want to see another Chicagoan (unless her name is Hillary) within 50 miles of the White House in my lifetime.

  2. Falstaff says:

    Has anyone, ever cared what David Frum thought? Everybody, left, right, and center, thinks he’s a tool. Oddest part of the column: no mention of Bengazi, which currently seems like the biggest problem for HRC.

  3. DeniseVB says:

    Well if Hillary’s too old to run for Prezzy, I’m too old to post on TCH/ snork.

    Seriously, I’m still hung up on the Benghazi thingy. She stood by her man in the 90’s, but this is so much different now. People died under her watch and I’m not accepting what difference does it make. Ugh.

    • votermom says:

      Yup, that’s my stumbling block also.

      • Jadzia says:

        It was an incredibly callous remark that P’d me off too, but I still believe that there is far more to the story than we’ll know. Naive, right?

        • votermom says:

          That’s the 2nd wtf remark she made as SecState that really shocked me. The first was “we came, we saw, he died”,with laughter, after Qaddaffy was ripped apart by a mob. Not that he didn’t deserve it, but that was beyond callous.

  4. myiq2xu says:


    A judge accepted the California city of Stockton’s bankruptcy application on Monday, making it the most populous city in the nation to enter bankruptcy.

    U.S. Bankruptcy Judge Christopher Klein said the bankruptcy declaration was needed to allow the city to continue to provide basic services.

    “It’s apparent to me the city would not be able to perform its obligations to its citizens on fundamental public safety as well as other basic government services without the ability to have the muscle of the contract-impairing power of federal bankruptcy law,” Klein said.

    The city of nearly 300,000 people has become emblematic of government excess and the financial calamity that resulted when the nation’s housing bubble burst.


    The $900 million that Stockton owes to the California Public Employees’ Retirement System to cover pension promises is its biggest debt. So far Stockton has kept up with pension payments while it has reneged on other debts, maintaining that it needs a strong pension plan to retain its pared-down workforce.

    Stockton is about an hour north of me on the hwy 99 freeway.

  5. DeniseVB says:

    Can we make this guy, AstroBoy, go away too ?

    Sadly, this guy is USING his wife like a sock in his jock strap. Ugh.

    • myiq2xu says:

      It’s all kabuki. The GOP won’t need to filibuster in the Senate because the gun control bill won’t pass the House.

      • Mary says:

        Not to mention that the Senate Democrats in red states won’t vote for it, either.

        Senor Kelly forgot to mention that. They can’t even get enough Dems, let alone Repubs.

        • 49erDweet (D) says:

          How pathetic is it when your highest claim to fame is your successful politician wife got shot by an idiot? And for an encore YouTube goes viral because the dog you were supposed to be tending went postal and killed a sea lion pup before you eventually interceded?

        • Mary says:

          LOL 49er!

          Kelly can’t even admit that NONE of the new gun laws he supports would have stopped the crazy man who shot his wife.

    • catarina says:

      If we can’t get rid of him would be nice to at least makethe bloviating tool STFU.
      So disrespectful of Giffords’ privacy when he should have been protecting her.
      Such an asshole.

  6. myiq2xu says:
  7. foxyladi14 says:

    My Prediction If Hillary runs she will WIN!! 🙂

  8. myiq2xu says:

    Worst layup ever:

    Obama layup

  9. piper says:

    Hope I’m not late for cake???

    Happy Birthday, myiq

  10. DeniseVB says:

    I miss Romney 😦

    • myiq2xu says:

      That reminds me of a joke. The punchline is “I would but I don’t think I could handle another dinner roll shoved in my ass”.

  11. foxyladi14 says:

    Hillary Clinton To Speak! (No, probably not about that. 🙂

  12. myiq2xu says:

    Damn. Matt “Big Sugar” Cain was holding up his end of a pitchers duel through 6 2/3 innings. Bottom of the 8th. 3 pitches. A homer and a double. Then 2 pitches later a bunt for a hit.

    No one out, 1st and 3rd, Dodgers lead 1-0.

    BTW – the guy who hit the homer was the opposing pitcher.

  13. westcoaster says:

    I do agree with Frum about party renewal- all the newly acquired Chicago-mafia types should be promptly ejected from the party, as they have given an underwhelming performance.

    • DandyTiger says:

      Unfortunately what they really want and will likely get is a new injection of more Chicago-mafia, including the next candidate. Welcome to the new permanent Dem party.

      • swanspirit says:

        Thank you , that is what I was going to say . Obama might be out of office in a few years ,(can’t be too soon for me ) but his crowd doesn’t want to let go of any power, and isn’t about to anytime soon .

        • Mary says:

          Which is what this new OFA group is all about. All the money, all the power, all the time, as long as possible.
          Even if Hillary runs and wins, those OFA buffoons will hold all the cards.
          No thanks.

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