“Those who would give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.”

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Politicker:

Bloomberg Says Interpretation of Constitution Will ‘Have to Change’ After Boston Bombing

In the wake of the Boston Marathon bombings, Mayor Michael Bloomberg said Monday the country’s interpretation of the Constitution will “have to change” to allow for greater security to stave off future attacks.

“The people who are worried about privacy have a legitimate worry,” Mr. Bloomberg said during a press conference in Midtown. “But we live in a complex word where you’re going to have to have a level of security greater than you did back in the olden days, if you will. And our laws and our interpretation of the Constitution, I think, have to change.”

Mr. Bloomberg, who has come under fire for the N.Y.P.D.’s monitoring of Muslim communities and other aggressive tactics, said the rest of the country needs to learn from the attacks.

“Look, we live in a very dangerous world. We know there are people who want to take away our freedoms. New Yorkers probably know that as much if not more than anybody else after the terrible tragedy of 9/11,” he said.

“We have to understand that in the world going forward, we’re going to have more cameras and that kind of stuff. That’s good in some sense, but it’s different from what we are used to,” he said.

The mayor pointed to the gun debate and noted the courts have allowed for increasingly stringent regulations in response to ever-more powerful weapons.

“Clearly the Supreme Court has recognized that you have to have different interpretations of the Second Amendment and what it applies to and reasonable gun laws … Here we’re going to to have to live with reasonable levels of security,” he said, pointing to the use of magnetometers to catch weapons in city schools.


What is it about these NYC mayors? Nanny Bloomberg sounds like he was channeling Rudy Ghouliani. Someone should remind him of the immortal words of Benjamin Franklin:

Those who would give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.


History shows that when you trade freedom for security you end up with neither one. Freedom isn’t free.

If the preliminary (media) reports are true, once again our government ignored flashing red lights, this time regarding Tamerlan “Speedbump” Tsarnaev. So would good would giving them more power do anyway? Do you really think making air passengers remove their shoes before getting groped and X-rayed by TSA agents has made flying any safer?

Surrendering our freedom because of this terrorist bombing makes as much sense as banning pressure cookers. Neither one will keep us safe.


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107 Responses to “Those who would give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.”

  1. myiq2xu says:

    Walter Russell Mead:

    Disillusioned Iraqis Vote amid Widening Sectarian Divide

    Iraqis turned out across the country to vote in provincial elections over the weekend. Unfortunately, barely half of the country’s eligible voters went to the polls, much lower than the 72 percent who voted in 2009.

    “It’s show business. The Iraqi people are sick of it,” a 27-year old doctor from Baghdad told a Wall Street Journal reporter. “I’ve voted every time, but this is the first time that I didn’t go. All the educated people didn’t go.”

    The low turnout is a troubling sign that Iraqis are disillusioned with a democratic system that so many American soldiers and Iraqis bled and died for:

    “Sectarianism remains the dominant brand in political fashion,” said Mr. [Ramzy] Mardini [a fellow at the Iraq Institute for Strategic Studies]. “Many Iraqis are dissatisfied with sectarianism but when it comes to voting they have no other choice. They’re fearful of the other side dominating.”

    Even Saturday’s voting process showed the painful scars left by sectarian conflict. Two large Sunni-majority provinces in western Iraq were prevented from voting Saturday after the Shiite-dominated cabinet said anti-Maliki protests made holding the polls a security risk. Before the weekend vote, Mr. Maliki said the local elections in Anbar and Nenevah provinces would be postponed “until security is restored”—giving officials an opportunity to keep the current Maliki-aligned councils in place.

    Mr. Maliki’s coalition, meanwhile, has included four new Shiite-backed parties in its coalition, including two strongly Shiite nationalist groups.

    Politicians in Mr. Maliki’s party say that hostile sectarian rhetoric remains the dominant flavor in politics, particularly as violence in Syria escalates and Iran’s influence expands across Sunni-dominated western Iraq.

    Grim. Sectarianism is taking its toll, and with the Syrian civil war continuing unabated next door and occasionally spilling across the border into Anbar and Nineveh, things don’t look all that good for Iraq’s future.

    Iraq is a complicated country going through a difficult time in its history, so the blame should not be laid squarely at President Obama’s feet. But the very visible administration policy drift in the Middle East has certainly played its part.

    Democracy is advanced citizenship. Some people just aren’t ready for it.

  2. myiq2xu says:

    Matt Labash:

    But if you came here to see me set flame to the Religion of Peace®, then I’m afraid you’ve come to the wrong place. For as Jesus Himself said in the Sermon on the Mount, “Slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captive and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush.” Wait, strike that. Got the holy books from my comparative religion class mixed up again. Turns out that was the Quran. It was Jesus who actually said, “Blessed are the cheesemakers.”

    The point here is that we needn’t let a few bad apples spoil the bunch. We all have some difficult patches to account for in our holy books. And religions don’t kill people – individuals do. True, if you watch the regular vanilla news, as opposed to say, reading CAIR press releases or David Sirota columns in Salon, it might not have escaped your notice that most of the extracurricular killing of innocents for its own sake seems to happen under the banner of the Religion of Peace ® . Which is not so much an Islamo-problem, as a problem of scale.

    The National Counterterrorism Center’s 2011 numbers demonstrated that about 70 percent of the world’s 12,533 terrorist murders that year were committed by Sunni Muslim terrorists. There are about 1.6 billion Muslims in the world, and there are nearly 7 billion people in the world, proper. So sure, Muslims are punching above their weight, terrorism-wise (70 percent of terrorist acts are attributable to those murdering in the name of a religion subscribed to by 23 percent of the world). It’s enough to make us ecumenically-minded types wonder when Christians, Jews, Hindus and Buddhists are going to get off their fat asses and pitch in a little. (Islamic cultures throughout the ages are already responsible for pioneering astronomy, algebra and filicidal honor killings — do they have to do everything around here?)

    But that’s the short game. The long game is that if the Islamoterrorists ever have their way — subjugating the world and bringing it under one shiny, happy Caliphate — there’ll be fewer infidels to kill, and those ratios are bound to drop precipitously. Then, without Islam to kick around anymore, those Presbyterian extremists are going to have a lot of explaining to do. While Religion of Peace ® extremists can get back to more peaceable domestic enterprises, like throwing homosexuals off tall buildings or stoning adulterous 13-year-old girls in soccer stadiums. In their idealized future, killing 8 year-old boys watching their dad run a marathon through the streets of Boston will no longer be necessary.

    • votermom says:

      The snark is strong in this one. ;P

    • gxm17 says:

      Spectator I: I think it was “Blessed are the cheesemakers”.

      Mrs. Gregory: Aha, what’s so special about the cheesemakers?

      Gregory: Well, obviously it’s not meant to be taken literally; it refers to any manufacturers of dairy products.

      One of the funniest comedic exchanges. Ever.

  3. lildoggy4u says:

    I fully expect Obama and congress to immediately call for a ban on all pressure cookers. My grandma gave me one when I moved into my first apartment and they’ll have to kill me to get it from my cold dead hands.

    • Constance says:

      At least you will need to register the sale and check the background of the person you are selling to if you ever decide to sell your pressure cooker on craigslist.

  4. lildoggy4u says:

    And this accomplishes the terrorist’s mission:
    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=2be_1366536241

    • Roberta says:

      SHAMEFUL! I did not realize this is what was going on. This is unacceptable! And cannot happen again.

    • elliesmom says:

      If it really happened. But it didn’t. We had this discussion last night. We have an outdoor shed we don’t lock. It came with a set of keys, but we forget where we put them. It looks like a cute little house. We keep the lawn mower and the snowblower, etc. in it. Last year a mentally incompetent person wandered away from home, and the local cops asked us if they could look in our shed to see if she was in there. It was very cold, and they were looking all of the places she might have gone in to get shelter. They had no warrant. Was that an “illegal search”? No. We could have said no. We turned on the floodlights for them. She was found down the street in someone’s garage. If the cops had asked us if they could look in there for Pothead and Speedbump, we would have said yes, too, and we wouldn’t have been surprised if this time they had weapons drawn.

    • Somebody says:

      If you read the comments on that link a little ways down someone says that the people in the house actually called about noises in the basement.

      I guess that would make a little more sense. If they were going door to door like storm troopers why did they only pick on that one house. Apparently the answer is because the people in it heard noises.

      • myiq2xu says:

        I was listening to the BPD scanner all Thursday night. They did indeed “raid” a few locations, but there were specific reasons for targeting those addresses. The other homes were searched on the exterior and by consent on the interior. If the cops came to your door and said they were looking for a cop-killer who was last seen on foot in your neighborhood, would you cooperate?

        It was my understanding that only that one neighborhood was on lockdown, but that they “encouraged” people to stay home that day. Also the buses and trains were shut down to prevent escape. Was anyone arrested for failing to stay inside? I haven’t heard of any.

        Here’s a little known fact about the 4th Amendment – it only protects people who live in that home. If the cops illegally search your house and find me and you with a pound of meth, the evidence could be used against me but not you. So if the cops illegally search a home looking for a fleeing suspect who does not live there, the arrest would still be legal and any evidence they found admissible against him.

      • Roberta says:

        Then why did they forcibly pull the person outside and put his hands up in the air?

  5. votermom says:

    Heard this on the radio today.
    Best & Worst jobs of 013 – Newspaper reporter is worst job out of 200 ranked

    http://blogs.wsj.com/atwork/2013/04/22/dust-off-your-math-skills-actuary-is-best-job-of-2013/

    • 49erDweet (D) says:

      It’s because so many stupid people resist the Kool-Aid. If only everyone were as gullible as Teh Won’s supporters, it’d be a breeze.

  6. I got a rocoball yesterday from Nanny Bloomies gun control group and was wondering why now??????? And why me for God’s sake??????

  7. DeniseVB says:

    Incredible photos taken from someone’s home during the shootout:

    http://www.getonhand.com/blogs/news/7743337-boston-bombing-suspect-shootout-pictures

    Chilling.

    • votermom says:

      Wow, he got some good photos.
      Although I wonder why he decided to take photos instead of video with his iphone?

    • fif says:

      What a strange strategy: to run and drive TOWARD the cops. Death by suicide? And amazing that he got through the cops with guns blazing in the SUV. Looking at that typical Boston residential street, it is incredible to believe it happened “right next door” and that more people were not killed.

  8. myiq2xu says:

    FYI – I gotta take my mom to Fresno for some outpatient surgery so I’ll be gone most of the afternoon/early evening.

  9. lildoggy4u says:

    Best wishes to your mom.

  10. votermom says:

    LOL via aoshq

    Apparently some kid named Nate wrestled Dzhokhar in high school. Nate decided to put video of the fight on youtube.
    music NSFW

  11. votermom says:

    Klown, when you get back, this guy needs to get sirotad again

  12. votermom says:

    What the Flippity flip flip!

    http://nation.foxnews.com/boston-marathon-bombing/2013/04/23/un-says-boston-got-what-it-deserved

    UN HUMAN RIGHTS OFFICIAL SAYS BOSTON GOT WHAT IT DESERVED

    By ANNE BAYEFSKY, Breitbart.com

    UN Human Rights Council “expert” Richard Falk has published a statement saying Bostonians got what they deserved in last week’s terror attack. He quotes W.H. Auden to make his point: “to whom evil is done/do evil in return.”

    Richard Falk is the UN’s “Special Rapporteur on the situation of human rights in the Palestinian territories occupied since 1967.” He has held the post since 2008, despite exposure as a 9/11 conspiracy theorist.

    In his latest rant, published online on April 21, 2013 by foreignpolicyjournal.com Falk repeats the libel that prior to 9/11 President George W. Bush was seeking a “pretext” for war, and that anything Israel is the opposite of “justice and peace.”

  13. fif says:

    Yea, well this is coming from the guy who wants to take away our french fries. Bloomberg has a Napoleon complex.

    • HELENK says:

      Didn’t Texas want it gold out of the fed and to be kept in Texas? I remember reading something about that a while ago

  14. yttik says:

    It doesn’t look like our freedoms had much to do with this attack. It looks like the Gov granted asylum and later citizenship to the wrong couple of brothers. It looks like they also ignored some warnings from the Russians and dropped the ball on some foreign travel because of a misspelled name.

    Maybe if we weren’t wasting so many resources searching children and old ladies at airports or creating no fly lists or trying to restrict legal gun ownership, we could focus our attention on more likely suspects.

    • votermom says:

      It’s incredible to me that Reid & the Gang of 8 are STILL pushingtheir amnesty bill.
      Because apparently the system that couldn’t screen out Tamerlan when Russia was telling us point blank he was a jihadi is going to be able to screen out the bad criminals from the “good” undocumenteds before giving them a path to citizenship. My ass.

    • myiq2xu says:

      It looks like they also ignored some warnings from the Russians

      In the government’s defense, the brothers did not fit the profile of Tea Partiers.

  15. votermom says:

    D.M. Hawkins ‏@HawkinsUSA 21 Apr
    Sadly, not shocking that the media who destroyed the characters of Romney-Palin-Bush is doing a full-scale humanization of Boston bombers

  16. t says:

    If pressure cookers are outlawed, only outlaws will have pressure cookers. LOL.

  17. swanspirit says:

    My first experience with a pressure cooker was my last . I was living with a bunch of hippies in Mill Creek , West BY GOD Virginia in a beautiful house with a wood stove ( I can cook on a wood stove !) and someone was using the pressure cooker . It exploded . I looked at the ceiling covered in beans ( I think that is what they were) and I thought to myself , I am NEVER EVER going to have to clean up a mess like that again. Never owned one , never will . Just lazy that way

    • votermom says:

      I happen to possess a WMD pressure cooker. We only use it if we’re gonna make flan – the best way way. Otherwise I find it kinda scary to use and heavy to wash.

      • swanspirit says:

        You have more courage than I ,VM . I know people who use them regularly , love them, swear by them , but I guess I have incurable Post Traumatic Pressure Cooker Disorder .

    • yttik22 says:

      LOL!

      I had no idea they made small ones and they’re light weight. Must be aluminum? The pressure cookers we’ve used are all huge, heavy, and made for canning quart jars. I couldn’t figure out how you would fit one in a backpack and not have it appear to be dragging on the ground, but I guess they make small ones.

  18. votermom says:

    LOL. Love this. NY State Sen Greg Ball vs Piers Morgan
    Piers: Can you stop being a jerk?
    Ball: You get paid for it.

    http://www.krmg.com/news/news/local/senator-tells-tv-host-he-gets-paid-being-jerk/nXTdM/

    • yttik22 says:

      Greta made a good point last night, Big Sis declared there was “no foreign involvement” before we even knew who they were.

  19. yttik22 says:

    I can’t stop thinking about the poor parents of Speedbump’s wife. Can you imagine? “Mom, Dad, I’m dropping out of school, converting to Islam, and marrying an unemployed terrorist who abuses me.”

    Uhg… 😦

    • 49erDweet (D) says:

      There has got to be more national discussion on what family members and parents need to do to provide the necessary self-esteem support for maturng young women that gives their psyches enough development time to get past the “bonding on the first brute that pays them any attention” period. I have nothing.

  20. votermom says:

    WTH Mitt?

  21. swanspirit says:

    I think the POTUS and his admin need to be accused of being soft on terrorism . We have to fight the propaganda and soft on terrorism policies of this administration that are causing the deaths of innocent Americans .

  22. myiq2xu says:
  23. Anthony says:

    Piers bitchslapped:

  24. HELENK says:

    hearing cancelled and there will be a press conference soon in Ricin case. No physical evidence was found. so this should be interesting.

  25. HELENK says:

    Iowa Hawk

    The same people who demand conversations about the violence of US culture want to ban mentioning the violence of any other culture.

  26. swanspirit says:

    Mark Fuckerberg just shared a “status ” from a guy named Mike Hudack

    A troubled kid walks into a grammar school in Newtown, CT and murders 28 with an assault rifle. Twenty of them are young children. There isn’t sufficient political will to even bring to a Senatorial vote greater regulation of assault weapons, ammunition, clip capacity or even to expand mental health and criminal background checks to more firearm sales.

    Two troubled people — one a young adult, one a kid — explode bombs at the Boston Marathon and then engage in multiple firefights with police, killing five and wounding more than one hundred. They use improvised explosive devices, handguns with massive clips and assault weapons similar to that used by Adam Lanza in Newtown.

    Politicians rush to call for the suspension of the surviving suspect’s Constitutional rights, military detention, the effective suspension of habeas corpus, and trial by courts martial for an American citizen. They’re not done though. They also call for an increase in the FBI’s power to investigate and surveil American citizens based on vague expression of “concern” by foreign governments, effectively abrogating some of our most cherished Fourth, Fifth and Sixth Amendment protections, together with the right to habeas corpus which was considered so important by our framers that it is explicitly protected in Article One of the Constitution.

    Something is very wrong with our national conversation. Since when is the right to bear arms more important than the right to be secure in our persons, houses, papers, and effects against unreasonable searches and seizures? Since when is the right to bear arms — a clause written at a time when Brown Bess muskets were the norm and breach-loading “rifles” were a new and deadly innovation — more important than the right to due process of law and our Sixth Amendment right to “enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed”?

    Republican Senators are calling for us to ignore at least four of our rights that are specifically enumerated in the Constitution, and refuse to even entertain conversation about the possibility of “regulating” the “well-regulated militia” that the Second Amendment calls “essential to the security of a free State.” This is simply sad.

    This is the kind of total and easily refutable bullshit that passes for thinking on the left these days . Pity for the poor terrorist ? Ignore or water down the fact that Russia warned the USA about this monster ?
    And Fuckerberg sends it out to billions .

  27. votermom says:

  28. Karma says:

    Of course, it’s just speculation but Speedbump’s widow avoiding the feds doesn’t bode well for not having previous knowledge of the attacks.

    http://nation.foxnews.com/boston-marathon-bombing/2013/04/23/mum-s-widow-feds-stay-near?intcmp=fly

  29. votermom says:

  30. votermom says:

    http://dailycaller.com/2013/04/23/eighth-grader-arrested-over-nra-shirt-returns-to-school-in-same-shirt

    The West Virginia eighth-grader who was suspended and, astonishingly, arrested last week after he refused to remove a t-shirt supporting the National Rifle Association returned to school on Monday.

    In a move The Daily Caller can only characterize as courageous, 14-year-old Jared Marcum returned to Logan Middle School in Logan County, West Va., wearing exactly the same shirt, which depicts a hunting rifle with the statement “protect your right.”

    According to Fox News, other students across the rural county showed their support for Marcum by wearing similar shirts to school.

  31. HELENK says:

    http://nation.foxnews.com/homeland-security/2013/04/23/napolitano-saudi-student-wrong-place-wrong-time

    saudi kid was in wrong place at wrong time per big sis.

    I am 21 years old and look like Linda Darnell

  32. HELENK says:

    http://weaselzippers.us/2013/04/23/san-francisco-restores-taxpayer-funding-for-6-foot-tall-the-healthy-penis-mascot/

    wonder who applied for the this mascot job. Can you see on the resume former job BIg Dick

    • yttik22 says:

      That was interesting! I think there is so much we don’t understand. I also think religion/politics are very important in an investigation and in protecting yourself, but some people just choose to be evil. I don’t buy this radicalization stuff, as if a completely innocent person was brainwashed against their will and now believe it’s okay to blow up innocent people.

  33. Constance says:

    Did you all see this story? Tsarnaev is now suspected in a 9/11/2011 triple murder, one of the men murdered was his training partner.
    http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/boston-bomb-suspect-eyed-connection-2011-triple-murder/story?id=19015628#.UXdeHsqvOM8

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