Cops & Crooks Don’t Hang-Out Together



White House correspondents partiers say Tom Brokaw’s got it wrong

White House correspondents just want to have fun.

That was the message that members of the media and others making the rounds at Friday night’s parties had for Tom Brokaw in the face of his renewed criticism of the Correspondents’ Association dinner.
“As a former White House Correspondent, it’s really nice for people in politics and media to come together and have a little weekend of fun,” MSNBC host Alex Wagner told POLITICO at a reception at the Hay Adams hotel. “I understand the idea of the ‘celebrification’ of the event but I think it’s more of a testament to how interesting and compelling Washington politics is to the outside world.”


Brokaw touched off the debate over the dinner when he told POLITICO’s Patrick Gavin in an interview that he won’t be attending this year’s gathering and that the last straw for him was when Lindsay Lohan was invited in 2012. The veteran newsman bemoaned the number of celebs at the dinner and worried how it all looks.

“What kind of image do we present to the rest of the country?” Brokaw asked. “Are we doing their business, or are we just a group of narcissists who are mostly interested in elevating our own profiles? And what comes through the screen on C-SPAN that night is the latter, and not the former.”

Some journalists said they didn’t see any downside to the dinner on Saturday night and the weekend of parties and events.

New Yorker editor David Remnick, whose magazine threw a Friday night soirée on the roof of the W Hotel, told POLITICO he doesn’t think the White House Correspondents’ Dinner undermines the press.

“Look at what we publish,” he said. “Does it seem like it corrupts us?”

Yes it does.

What is interesting here is Politico didn’t bother soliciting some outside-the-beltway opinions. That’s like polling a NORML convention on pot legalization. Your results will be a little skewed.

There is a reason that cops and crooks don’t hang out together. Their occupations are mutually incompatible. Whenever the two groups mingle it is bad news for the rest of us.

The press is supposed to be watchdogs for the rest of us. They are supposed to keep an eye on our public servants. When the press and politicians join forces the inmates have taken over the asylum.

Numerous polls over the past few decades have consistently shown that public respect and esteem for politicians and the press is declining. Or perhaps “plummeting” is a more accurate term. This trend mirrors the increasing insularity and incestuousness inside Washington DC.

If the White House Correspondents’ Dinner was the only time that politicians and the media socialized together that would be one thing. But in recent years the line between the two groups has become blurred as the players keep switching back and forth between teams.

The WHCD is just a symptom of a much large problem.

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88 Responses to Cops & Crooks Don’t Hang-Out Together

  1. DeniseVB says:

    Cspan’s starting coverage at 6:15 pm ET. About 2 hours of Red Carpet arrivals. Running an old Clinton/Conan skit now. Groan.

    • myiq2xu says:

      If you want to kill brain cells try huffing paint.

      • DeniseVB says:

        If that’s what it takes to be patriotic……sigh?

        I’m popping in and out from the garden, hubby just found 10 orphaned baby ducks near the pier. He’s sitting there with a loaf of bread hoping momma duck sees it. So far, only the seagulls seem interested 😦

        • elliesmom says:

          The school I used to teach in had a courtyard, and every spring a duck family would take up residence. Every spring the neighborhood hawk would pick off the baby ducklings one by one. Unfortunately, your orphans are “sitting ducks”.

          • myiq2xu says:

            We used to have a cat named Parker. She’s a petite tuxie who showed up one day and made herself at home. A cuddly lapcat with really soft fur. But Parker is also killer.

            One day she came back with a dead baby duck. I took it from her and threw it away. So she went out and got another. Then a third. That was just the beginning of her career as a serial killer. I can’t tell you how many dead animals she brought home, but it was a regular thing. Mice, birds, even a baby opossum. She didn’t try to eat them, she just killed ’em and brought ’em home like trophies.

            She lives with my son now.

          • myiq2xu says:

            They keep her in the house so she can’t go hunting.

        • DeniseVB says:

          Oh elliesmom you feel our pain….if not the hawks, the fox, raccoons and snapping turtles. Some countries even skewer these little cuties and barbeque them. Every year we try, every year we fail 😦

        • Jadzia says:

          Yeah, if my cat had brought home a nice steak once in a while he would TOTALLY have been allowed to live an indoor/outdoor lifestyle.

        • lildoggy4u says:

          I watched a special on PBS about our North American ducks. I learned to my suprise that the mother’s only job was to lead their babies to water and then they were own their own. She does not protect them or teach them how to forage.

  2. fif says:

    Groan…they prove the point with their complete ignorance of how much they are despised and distrusted.

    “I think it’s more of a testament to how interesting and compelling Washington politics is to the outside world.”


  3. myiq2xu says:

    Ron Fournier:

    Established decades ago to encourage comity between reporters and The Reported, the dinner has in recent years been overshadowed by star-gazing, extravagant parties and the antics of hired comics. Conan O’Brien entertains the crowd Saturday night.

    As we say in Washington, the dinner is “lousy optics” – rarely more so than Saturday night, when the backdrop will be joblessness, a budget deficit, the Boston Marathon bombing and a blood-red line in Syria.

    Traditionally, the president addresses the dinner to poke fun at himself and his audience before ending on a sober note. Last year, President Obama closed by praising “a free press that isn’t afraid to ask questions, to examine and to criticize.”

    That sounds really nice. Too bad we don’t have one.

  4. OT:

    • elliesmom says:

      The left turned feminism from women having choices to women only having one choice – the one the left chose for them. I don’t know of any woman who had her “at home job” reduced by half when she went to work full-time. I retired before my husband did, and I took over some of his household chores while he was still working. Now that he’s retired, too, I’m having a devil of a time giving them back. I have no hope of ever getting him to do half. But he really believes he does his share and more.

      • 49erDweet (D) says:

        Guilty, your honor. My only excuse is I never do it quite right.

        • My husband uses that excuse. It’s utter bullshit. If I can do it right, he can do it right. I strongly suspect he deliberately won’t learn so I’ll do it because I like it done right. Women don’t have some special high-grade learning curve, which is what that excuse suggests. If we do, I’m strongly in favor a 100% female Congress, and that all CEOs/bankers/lawyers/doctors/etc be women. We can exclude men from the presidency while we’re at it.

        • We might be on to something. I say we offer penised-Americans welfare to drop out of the workforce.

          • myiq2xu says:

            You’ll need to keep a few of the hunkier ones around for lifting heavy stuff and squishing spiders and taking out the trash.

        • You might have a point about heavy lifting, but I squish my own spiders, and am already the only person in the house taking care of the trash.

      • Jadzia says:

        Elliesmom and all the other ladies who might be getting the “I don’t know how to do it” excuse: I recommend getting him a copy of either Better Homes and Gardens’ “Home,” or Cheryl Mendelsohn’s “Home Comforts.” (Probably the former; the latter is very science-heavy and is 890 pages long! BH&G is more practical). These 2 books are indispensable at my house, and also allow me just to wordlessly point to a page when X won’t take my word that something needs to be done, or needs to be done in a certain way. (I’m not all that picky about anything but sanitary issues; particularly food safety. He’s the kind of guy who will leave dinner leftovers out overnight and then think nothing of eating them 24 hours later.)

    • DeniseVB says:

      Meh. I broke up with them before you were born. 😀

    • votermom says:

      Feminists lowered our expectations of men. Men ran with it. They know a good deal when they see it.


      • Jadzia says:

        + 1 million. And as an added bonus, TPTB got to lower/stagnate everybody’s wages (in inflation-adjusted terms) using increased competition (i.e., a much larger pool of applicants from whom to choose) as a rationale.

    • myiq2xu says:

      I disagree with this part:

      Let’s face it, women still obey men. Wives still submit to their husbands most of the time.

      For every wife that obeys her husband, there is at least one husband who obeys his wife. We even have terms for it, like “henpecked” and “pussy-whipped”. Usually it’s a mixed bag with each side getting their way on some stuff.

      So I hear anyway. I never got my way on nothing.

      • I hear ya, and I agree. But, I have a friend whose marriage is billed as THE role model for progressive marriages, and on FB, she is constantly posting about the stuff he has vetoed, and constantly bitching about the stuff he did behind her back without even asking, including racking up ginormous overdraft fees because he bought “toys” he shouldn’t have. So often I want to just post something like, “What is this? The 1950s?” when I see her shit, but it will do no good. She had a kid 8 months ago, quit her job, and never looked back. She ain’t looking forward, either. She IS living in the 1950s, but she doesn’t want to see it because it refutes her progressive brand of politics. I think that’s the kind of woman that comment was aimed for.

      • yttik says:

        LOL, I don’t know any husbands that obey their wives! Where is this alien species you speak of?

        • Jadzia says:

          Seriously. My husband does not only not “obey” me (which I wouldn’t have expected or wanted anyway), he doesn’t even listen to me. By which I mean that when I say something to him, 85% of the time he does not even reply. And then wonders why my self-esteem has plummeted and I feel really unloved.

          Sorry for the overshare. Self-esteem shouldn’t, of course, be dependent on a man, but in my current situation of Extreme Isolation (which, BTW, would make a REALLY BORING reality show), he’s the only person over 3 feet tall who I see more than once a month or so. And under the circumstances, naturally I am more than a little suspicious that his Extreme Enthusiasm for finding me an anti-depressant that “works” is code for “a drug to shut you up and make you smile vacantly while you work 24/7 and I head into my eighth year of not even bothering to look for work.”

        • Somebody says:


        • Jadzia says:

          Oh thank you. Don’t feel bad for me — it’s my own damn fault.

        • Jadzia says:

          myiq — again, my own damn fault. Husband #2 has pretty much turned out to be a clone of Husband #1, only minus the halitosis. (That is to say, Husband #2 doesn’t have it. So I guess you could say I traded up.) Fool me once…

  5. 49erDweet (D) says:

    Have always considered it a satirical, tongue-in-cheek event. Trouble is our brilliant media-lights have morphed it into a worship service.

  6. 49erDweet (D) says:

    Dinner established “…to establish comity…..”
    Trouble is, narcissists can’t recognize comity. Their civility sensors are out-of-whack.

  7. HELENK says:

    major refinery explosion in Michigan just reported.

  8. HELENK says:

    Russia had mom and older bomber on wiretap discussing jihad

  9. DeniseVB says:

    I’ll be in DC next weekend, can’t wait. Staying in an overpriced Foggy Bottom hotel with my girlfriends with a day of shopping/eating/playing at the Kennedy Center for a tour and a My Fair Lady concert. I doubt I’ll see the Obamas in the Presidential Box. They were sorely missing for my last visit for Ragtime 😦

  10. HELENK says:

    how ironic part of 9-11 plane found wedged between two buildings. one is a mosque

    • Jadzia says:

      They’re STILL finding pieces? That is absolutely shocking.

    • Jadzia says:

      I read a really good (but devastatingly sad) book about 9/11 called “Closure,” which was written by William Keegan, the guy who ran (out in the field) the NY Port Authority’s operations during the 9/11 recovery operation. So it’s not a conspiracy theory type book, more of a memoir–his experiences on 9/11 and during the recovery, as well as the psychological effect of the recovery experience on his colleagues and family.

      At any rate, according to him, during the recovery operation they (not sure if it was his men or NYPD/NYFD) found what was almost certainly one of the black boxes. (They had been extensively briefed on what black boxes look like and it was a high priority recovery.) They called in the FBI, who told them it was not a black box, yet took it away, and Keegan et al. never found out what happened to it.

  11. HELENK says:

    this is getting very weird in this country. clergy banned from Boston bombing site after eplosions

  12. HELENK says:

    Mexico detains 108 undocumented immigrants in immigration sweeps; most from Central America, authorities say – @Reuters

    remember when we used to be able to do this?

  13. DeniseVB says:

    *kick off* Breit Baier doing some intros/awards now on

  14. yttik says:

    “There is a reason that cops and crooks don’t hang out together. Their occupations are mutually incompatible…”

    Hmm, not where I live.

  15. Somebody says:

    For those of you with twitter, apparently the WH tweeted a picture of Obama brushing dirt of his shoulder and some message about that’s what he does to his critics or something lame like that.

    I don’t have twitter, but I know a lot of you do

  16. myiq2xu says:

  17. myiq2xu says:
    • LMAO! I am drunk. That’s what taking a month off will do. #DrunkOnOneDrink #StartingMySecondDrinkNow

      • myiq2xu says:



      • Jadzia says:

        I gave up on drinking last night and was very sad. Usually when my husband leaves me out here by myself for a couple of days (well, except for leaving the youngest for me to take care of), he at least leaves a few half-bottles of wine for after-hours. This time, that didn’t happen and all I could find was 3 cans of Panache – a very tasty and popular drink here that is half beer, half lemonade. (Sounds weird but is REALLY good.) I cracked one open and about halfway through checked the can for the alcohol content: 1.2%. What the hell’s the point? I ended up giving up and going to bed. So if anybody would like 2 leftover Panaches, have at it. The weather is too cold here to drink them for refreshment value alone.

        • lildoggy4u says:

          Jadzia, where do you live? I want to bring you a party.

        • myiq2xu says:

          I gave up on drinking last night and was very sad.

          I am always sad whenever I give up on drinking. The words “last call” make me cry.

        • Jadzia says:

          lildoggy — I live in an extremely rural part of southwest France. The nearest town (my house is in the middle of a bunch of fields) doesn’t even have a stoplight. It’s awful. The living situation, I mean. France on the whole is great, although I wish our new president would spend some time on the economy and unemployment situation, and doesn’t THAT sound familiar?

          myiq — why so sad? “Ya don’t gotta go home but ya can’t stay here” just means you need to plan ahead and put a six-pack in your fridge before you go out. : )

        • Lulu says:

          Jadzia, I understand the isolation with young children, both socially and geographically and a husband who is clueless, busy or both. If I may say, you need to find something that is yours and yours only that does not involve him and is okay for you to do with or around your children. I am an artisan type and very good with my hands. I paint, cook, garden, sew for MYSELF for fun. It has nothing to do with my husband. If he benefits from it, fine, but it is not for him but ME. I taught myself (with a little help) about investing for myself. And my now adult children valued what I did and taught them and they know I am not particularly talented but very persistent in learning new things. Find what you like to do and leave hubby completely out of it. You come first in at least one thing which is whatever you want it to be. Never let anyone else decide what you are or what you can do.

        • leslie says:

          Jadzia~ When I was young, at home with babies, no family or friends nearby and nowhere to go, I used to at the very least, put on make-up and wear my favorite perfume every day. Just to be able to “take a whiff” of my writs, lightened my mod – at least a little. I started exercising, dancing to my favorite music when the little ones were either down for a nap or at preschool, and pulling weeds in the yard. I know it doesn’t sound rmantic, but it did help me to feel a little better.
          Especially the perfume.
          (the make-up and perfume idea came from a radio program that i listened to one time – and that time was accidental. I thought it was a stupid suggestion, but I tried it and now I share it with others because it was helpful.)

        • Jadzia says:

          Thanks to you both, gals. I do know how to knit, sew, and make bath and beauty products, including cold process and poured soaps, lotions, and lip balm. For the moment Priority #1 is getting fluent in French so I can get a job outside the home. When I am feeling okay (like not so depressed it’s hard to get out of bed) I do at least try to get dressed (that’s about 50% of the time), and I love makeup, so try to do that as well (about 25% of the time). The thing that is so awful about the isolation in terms of looking pretty being a pick-me-up is that knowledge that ain’t nobody gonna see it who cares!

          What I REALLY want to do, just for myself? (Well, I would love to take kids along — just not my husband, because he’s less than no fun in these situations.) TRAVEL. I am terrified of flying and my Big Hope for moving to Europe (other than improving the kids’ lives, which was the reason for the move) was to be able to take the train to explore all these parts of the world that are suddenly open to me. I actually have a bunch of train credits and had wanted to take the baby on a nice long trip during spring break (bc grandma had taken the other kids for 2 weeks), but husband refused to go and came up with so many reasons that I shouldn’t go/couldn’t go/wasn’t smart enough to go/couldn’t take the baby that I finally gave up and ended up studying French and working the entire 2 weeks. It was a total bummer. But once I find a job, the FU $ will come in handy, and we will be off to the races! I want to visit every country in Europe. It’s a lifelong dream.

  18. myiq2xu says:

    Fucking Giants!

    • Somebody says:

      That was hilarious!

      I haven’t seen House of Cards, but I understand now that I have a new smart TV I can just stream it anytime I want. I’m not much of TV watcher, but House of Cards sounds like a show I’d enjoy.

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