Entropy, Civilization and the Rule of Law

Tony Blair:

I think the lessons are really tough, you see, and very difficult and I think the trouble is the lessons themselves are subject to great and heated debate. My view is that in the end the whole of the Middle East and beyond is undergoing this period of huge transition where you have these dictatorial regimes whose time is up you. On the other hand, the battle for the future is between what I would call the modern-minded types of people, the people who took to the streets first in Egypt, who want what we want, but against them are various groups, Islamist groups, that I’m afraid don’t have the same concept, democracy or freedom that we do. If any of them get hold of the potential to engage in mass destruction, we’ve got a huge problem on our hands.

…the fact is this ideology is being pumped around websites, is being encouraged by people in many different parts of the world. and it’s there and it’s very hard for us to deal with. The first obligation of a government is to try to protect its people, but then you’ve got to cast out this ideology. i think this is very similar to the fight we faced in the 20th century against Fascism and Communism, it’s an ideology. It’s not one command and control center. You’re not talking about a country, but you are talking about an ideology based on a perversion of religion which has enormous force. If you don’t deal with this issue, this long-term question, ideology based on the religion of Islam, you are going to end up fighting this for a long time.

I grew up taking technology for granted. Television, radio, cars, planes, electricity – they’ve been there all my life. But they didn’t just appear out of nowhere. For about 10,000 years men and women gained knowledge, preserved it, built on it, and passed it on. We stand on the shoulders of those people.

But there have also been occasional setbacks – times when knowledge was lost and had to be rediscovered. These times mirrored the fall of past civilizations.

But civilization is a lot like technology – you could call it “political technology”. Many of us take our civilization for granted. But civilization is really just the accumulated knowledge of how humans can live together in peace and prosperity.

Just as we have some Luddites out there who despise technology, there are some people out there who despise civilization. If they had their way we would discard some of our accumulated knowledge and return to earlier times.

There is a term for those earlier times: “dark ages”.

Imagine if we closed all our schools and quit teaching science and technology. We would still have all the current manifestations of that technology, but we could never build more. As things broke down they couldn’t be replaced. Within a few generations we would be savages living in the ruins.

Ever seen a ghost town or an abandoned farm? Once upon a time all the buildings were brand new. But as time passes entropy takes over and everything begins to rust and decay. Eventually only a few traces remain.

The rule of law is one pillar of civilization. It is not the only pillar, but it is an essential one. It must be preserved and improved. That is why I am so anal about this issue.

I don’t want my grandchildren to have to live in a dark age.

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66 Responses to Entropy, Civilization and the Rule of Law

  1. myiq2xu says:

    Via Hot Air:

    Across Syria, rebel-held areas are dotted with Islamic courts staffed by lawyers and clerics, and by fighting brigades led by extremists. Even the Supreme Military Council, the umbrella rebel organization whose formation the West had hoped would sideline radical groups, is stocked with commanders who want to infuse Islamic law into a future Syrian government.

    Nowhere in rebel-controlled Syria is there a secular fighting force to speak of.

    This is the landscape President Obama confronts as he considers how to respond to growing evidence that Syrian officials have used chemical weapons, crossing a red line he had set…

    “My sense is that there are no seculars,” said Elizabeth O’Bagy, of the Institute for the Study of War who has made numerous trips to Syria in recent months to interview rebel commanders.

    The forces of darkness are gathering.

    • Propertius says:

      The problem,of course, is that there are multiple forces of darkness and they’re gathering everywhere. For every medieval religious fanatic, there’s a cynical opportunist like Michael “L’etat c’est moi” Bloomberg proclaiming that “”we live in a complex world where you’re going to have to have a level of security greater … our laws and our interpretation of the Constitution, I think, have to change”.

      From where I sit, the rule of law is looking pretty shaky indeed.

      • Propertius says:

        Maybe Yeats said it best:

        Turning and turning in the widening gyre
        The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
        Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
        Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
        The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
        The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
        The best lack all conviction, while the worst
        Are full of passionate intensity.

        Surely some revelation is at hand;
        Surely the Second Coming is at hand.
        The Second Coming! Hardly are those words out
        When a vast image out of Spiritus Mundi
        Troubles my sight: a waste of desert sand;
        A shape with lion body and the head of a man,
        A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun,
        Is moving its slow thighs, while all about it
        Wind shadows of the indignant desert birds.

        The darkness drops again but now I know
        That twenty centuries of stony sleep
        Were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle,
        And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
        Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?

    • votermom says:

      IMO, let them fight it out

  2. myiq2xu says:

    More Hot Air:

    New questions have emerged over the source of the soil and other samples from Syria which, it is claimed, have tested positive for the nerve agent sarin, amid apparent inconsistencies between eyewitness accounts describing one of the attacks and textbook descriptions of the weapon…

    According the US Centres for Disease Control and Prevention, “sarin is a nerve agent that is one of the most toxic of the known chemical warfare agents. It is a clear colourless liquid … generally odourless and tasteless”.

    But eyewitness accounts of that attack, in which six rebels died and which were reported at the time by the Associated Press described “white smoke” pouring from shells that “smell[ed] … like hydrochloric acid”.

    If the witness “smelled” the sarin he would be dead. The stuff they used doesn’t seem to have been very effective. What would be the point of using chemical weapons just to kill a few people? Assad can’t afford to use WMD’s as an object lesson because that will put a noose around his neck.

    What if the rebels used sarin on their own people so they could blame it on Assad?

    • Somebody says:

      It’s not just what agent was used, but who used it.

      I read within the last couple of weeks when all of this started up that there is still a lot of confusion about who actually used chemical agents. Some of the evidence doesn’t seem to back up that it was the Assad regime.

      For instance in one of the attacks, mostly Syrian military were harmed. Also, in that same attack Syrian military were rushing in to aid victims. So why would they do that? Why would the military be harmed if they were the ones lobbing the chemical weapons?

      The information was in one of the European papers a couple of weeks ago when the first announcement was made about possible chemical weapons being used. There were some stills and a short video clip showing the Army helping. The bulk of the articles I read detailed how the soil samples were smuggled out, the testing and what the results could mean……….Outside chance the articles were AP/Reuters maybe CSmonitor, but I think it was one of UK rags.

      The initial reports came out I think while most of us were fixated on the Boston bombings, but this information everyone is touting is based on soil samples smuggled out for testing.

      I’m sure the regime in Syria is brutal, but I don’t think the people will be any better off under some Islamic extremist group. In fact I’m certain the Christians in Syria won’t be better off. As much as I’d love to believe it was possible, I don’t think very many in the ME are ready for or capable of having a democracy.

  3. myiq2xu says:

    Women and gays in particular should be concerned about preserving civilization. The dark ages aren’t good times to be either one.

    • Lulu says:

      Not just civilization but “western” civilization. It has been demonized for a few decades now in academia for the colonization and mistreatment of indigenous peoples. What is so utterly astonishing is that they fail to acknowledge that Europe was invaded and colonized in the same way by peoples from Asia, the middle east and Africa a few thousand years earlier. They fixate on using their own current ideology and psychology as a filter. I think that the extreme specialization of study which requires no subjects like logic and mathematics is obvious is their ignorant tunnel-vision. If all you require future academics to study is post-WWII women’s civil rights in art and politics in the sub-Sahara that is all you are going to get which are basically dumb asses.

    • votermom says:

      Minorities never think these things through.
      Women were at the front of the French Revolution; they also suffered the most during the Terror.

  4. myiq2xu says:
  5. 49erDweet says:

    Those were a koven of white inferiorists. Good catch. That rare genus is on the endangered species list. They apparently don’t care.

  6. votermom says:

    via ace, New York Review of Books claim to have interviewed the mysterious Misha

  7. votermom says:

    I borrowed the new biography “Coolidge”, by Shlaes, from the library. The intro is good but then it gets dry.
    But he seems to be the kind of President we need right now for the economy.

    Some great quotes from Pres. Coolidge on goodreads:

  8. votermom says:


    Rep. Steve Stockman ‏@SteveWorks4You 25 Apr
    The Tsarnaev mother is only three conspiracy theories and two anti-American rants away from a job at MSNBC.

  9. DeniseVB says:

    Speaking of the fall of civilization, never a good sign to see your home city on the Drudge Report …..


    Just a buncha’ fun loving college kids !

  10. votermom says:

    • votermom says:

      Another UK horror story today @Liberty_Chick Children as young as 10 are ‘sexting’, says study http://soa.li/yTzpr7O

      • votermom says:

        I don’t know why those Muslim nurses are even allowed in the hospital — all those unclothed male patients they might look at! The horror!

    • DeniseVB says:

      And Allah likes dirty hands because ….. ? Geesh. It’s safer to have surgery in a fast food restaurant.

      • fernschild says:

        Even as I type this comment my hands are horror movie dry and scaly from washing and sanitizing the heck out of them. And I work in home health, I don’t mess around with people’s entrails. How on earth are they going to keep MRSA and superbugs from proliferating? Sorry, I gotta go find some soap and water now.

        • yttik says:

          LOL! Every night I coat my hands with coconut oil and wear gloves to bed. If your hands get so dry they start to crack and scale, you’re vulnerable to getting an infection yourself, so you have to take care of them.

    • elliesmom says:

      Would I then I have the right to insist no Muslim nurses be part of my care? Could I sue the nurse is she gave me an infection?

    • Propertius says:

      If you take the time to track this back to its original source (the Telegraph), you’ll find that this is an exaggeration. Starting in 2007, the NHS required providers to bare their arms from the elbows down to reduce the odds of spreading MRSA. The Muslim nurses objection wasn’t to “hand washing”, it was to the “bare arms” requirement. The rule relaxation requires them to use disposable, plastic sleeve covers over any clothing if they’re not going to bare their arms. Hand-washing requirements were not affected.

      Yes, there are legitimate concerns that this might not be as effective in preventing MRSA from spreading, but that’s a far cry from “All Muslim Nurses No Longer Required To Wash Their Hands”.

      Twitter is for twits.

  11. votermom says:

    “nice boy”

    ‘Speedbump’ Tsarnaev’s Former Girlfriend Says He Beat Her, Tried to Convert Her to Islam

  12. yttik says:

    I really like and support the rule of law of course, but over time I’ve decided that it’s far more important to win over hearts and minds. It’s the spirit and intent behind the law that really matters the most and we all have to be on the same page to make it work, most of us anyway.

    We are living in scary times because in our country we have young people who don’t understand, who don’t value the wisdom of their ancestors. Worse, some of them hate the entire system and believe they can toss it out and create something better. I get really tired of people chanting things like, “down with capitalism,” when they’ve never even left the borders of our country. Maybe it’s always been like this and maybe I’m just getting impatient in my old age, but I can’t stand 20 somethings who think they know it all and can solve the entire world’s problems, and yet they can’t even figure out how to pay their light bill.

    • elliesmom says:

      There recently was an article about a college economics professor who had a class of students who all told him capitalism is evil and socialism or communism would be more fair. So he made a contract with them. Every time he gave a test he would average all of the grades in the class and assign every one in the class the same grade. On the first test, everyone got a B+. The kids who would have received A’s weren’t happy, but the rest of the class was pretty happy. By the 3rd test the class was getting D’s, and by the end of the semester, the entire class had failed. I commend the prof for holding the class to the contract and actually failing the whole class. It really bothered the kids who were expecting to ride on the coattails of the A students that those kids stopped studying, too. But the kids who would have been A students if they hadn’t had to share their points with the other kids couldn’t really complain because they stopped being A students when there wasn’t enough “reward” for doing the work. I wish I had bookmarked it because it was classic.

  13. We don’t have what we need to fight this, which is smart young people. Most of the so-called best and brightest are poisoned by ideology, and many of the rest are too stupid to know the difference.

    Case in point is an argumentative essay I read this weekend by one of my students. She’s 19. She was arguing in favor of universal implementation of Sharia law in order to reduce the crime rate. She is not Muslim, she just thinks (erroneously) that Muslim countries have a lower crime rate, so she advocates for thieves to have their fingers cut off, and rapists to have their private parts cut off. She does not know enough about the Constitution to know that this is a violation of the first amendment, and she is not intellectually curious enough to find the stats on crime rates that she needs to back up her point of view. She offered a single statistic on the number of thefts in the US, found it appalling, and deduced chopping off fingers would reduce the problem.

    Another of my students wrote the stormiest essay in favor of birth control for teens that I have ever seen. She’s 18. All she cares about is her “right” to throw her body at young men who will not fulfill her sexual urges. Originally she did not include any opposing points of view, and when I told her she needed them, what she included was little more than the claim that while some parents were opposed to their children having sex, they just needed to “deal with it” because it’s happening anyway. She said this without any hint of irony whatsoever. I guess her parents never told she needed to “deal with” not having the right to bang every pimply faced boy on the block.

    These girls are ascendent. They are young and one is black and the other is a working class survivor of domestic violence. They are bookends of the same disease, one overly liberal to the point of harm, the other overly conservative to the point of harm, but influenced by the multi-culti ideology of the left. She doesn’t even know she’s conservative yet, but I suspect she will figure it out. One is the product of an inner-city school, the other the product of early graduation because she finished up her high school degree self-paced entirely on the computer. The latter thinks she’s an intellectual badass, and the former wants to be published one day. In neither environment can these people learn critical thinking skills necessary to preserve their civilization. This is what happens when moderates and conservative cede major institutions like education to vile progs. This is the fruit of not fighting, of not even trying.

    • DeniseVB says:

      Oh dear, Sharia Law ? Speak about throwing young women back to the 4th century 😦

      • Lulu says:

        Of course she doesn’t know that Europe tried the hand and finger-lopping to deter theft for several centuries and it didn’t work then either. And sharia is only applied to “certain” people. The royals and rich don’t get caught.

        • myiq2xu says:

          Once upon a time in England the difference between felonies and misdemeanors was that felonies were punished by death. Pretty gruesome public executions too. Misdemeanors were punishable by things like whipping, branding, being placed in the stocks, tar and feathering and amputation.

          Pickpocketing was a felony. At every execution there were pickpockets working the crowds. And because the penalty for robbery and murder was the same, robbers left their victims dead (after raping the women).

    • yttik says:

      LOL, last night I had a great debate with a girl who believes in “sexual empowerment,” (it’s my body and I can do what I want) but wants to ban trans fat, commercial farming, over sized soda, childhood obesity, people who won’t recycle, etc…

      It kind of reminded me of a Star Trek episode. This girl is living on a planet where her alien overlords have convinced her that the only freedom she needs is the right to put herself in exploiting sexual situations to score empowerment points. Gee, I wonder who benefits from this arrangement?

    • DeniseVB says:

      Just saw this and thought of you lola since your students are somewhere in between 😉


    • The only critical thinking they’re being taught is directed against their past, parents and pastors.

  14. John Denney says:

    Judge Janice Rogers Brown’s speech, “Fifty Ways To Lose Your Freedom” seems apropos. Here’s a copy:

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