Via Hot Air, this shit will make you sick:
Live Action’s undercover journalist went to a Bronx abortion clinic to discuss the potential outcomes of a 23-week abortion — that’s nearly 6 months along — and got the kind of advice that one would expect from Kermit Gosnell himself:
What happens, the young woman asks, if the baby is moving and breathing when it comes out? No worries, says the abortion-clinic saleswoman — the toxic solution will make it “automatically stop.” If the baby spontaneously delivers, she advises the mother to “Flush it!” Or, failing that, stick the baby in a plastic bag and bring him or her to the clinic for the toxic solution. Don’t go to the hospital, she warns, because the hospital might actually try to save the baby.
Maybe I am overly sensitive about this topic. This June 27th will be twenty-three years since the day my youngest child was born prematurely. I still vividly remember watching that tiny little girl struggle to breathe for four days before giving up the ghost. I cannot imagine someone intentionally killing a live baby:
In an exchange laden with euphemisms on both sides to conceal the gruesome nature of the discussion, the pregnant woman wondered aloud what would happen if “it” (her fetus) emerged from her intact and alive.
The employee assigned to take note of medical history reassured the woman, “We never had that for ages” (a seeming admission that a baby did survive abortion at the clinic at least once) but that should “it” “survive this,” “They would still have to put it in like a jar, a container, with solution, and send it to the lab. . . . We don’t just throw it out in the garbage.”
Oh, and this innocuous-sounding “solution” was, of course, a toxic substance suitable for killing an infant.
“Like, what if it was twitching?” asked the pregnant woman.
“The solution will make it stop,” said the clinic employee. “That’s the whole purpose of the solution . . . It will automatically stop. It won’t be able to breathe anymore.”
If this doesn’t make you sick then you need a heart transplant cuz your old one ain’t working no more.
And Obama “God Blessed” this ?
Safe. Legal. Rare. Riiiiiight?
The only member of the triad still standing is “legal”. I feel abused and manipulated. I have always leaned “pro-life”, but I was persuaded by the argument that women wouldn’t abuse the right to have an abortion if granted. In some states we’re approaching 50% of all pregnancies in some demographics.
I am still pro-choice, at least for the first trimester. But I don’t think abortion is a good thing. I consider it the lesser of two evils.
I don’t think having a baby is an “evil”, even if you don’t want it. I grew up in a family where 3 of my parents’ 5 kids were adopted so I view adoption as the preferable alternative to abortion once a woman is pregnant. My folks were delighted to have the opportunity to open their hearts and home to kids who needed them.
Contraception has come a long way since Roe v. Wade, but I think the easy availability of abortion has made men and women irresponsible about using it. With Plan B available over the counter, further limiting abortion shouldn’t present an insurmountable obstacle for women. The number of abortions performed on rape victims is miniscule compared to number of total abortions. I do think women who are faced with serious health risks should have to the option to terminate a pregnancy.
Neither do I.
Then if having an abortion is “the lesser of two evils”, what’s the greater evil?
I had three miscarriages as well as 4 live births. I still mourn for the babies I lost and am grateful for the children I have.
how any woman can sit there and so coldly talk about killing a baby is beyond me. You have to be a special kind of sicko to work there
krauthammer on backtrack pp speech
Well, there’s definitely a pro-life agenda here, but it is also pretty telling how the targets use such specific language. “Pregnancy tissue.” WTF is that? I don’t think they ever once used the word “fetus.” I agree; pretty callous. And quite manipulative, too.
Callous is right. What’s striking to me is these are NOT doctors. Who the hell are these people? The clinician has been working there since she was 16. How the hell is that possible? Working there so young with such a risky procedure. I’ve been falsely under the assumption that these later term abortions are treated as important clinical procedures. Shouldn’t this involve an overnight stay since it is a 2-day procedure? Then telling the patient to just flush it or dig it out of the toilet??? what the hell is wrong with people.
What this has changed is my opinion in regulating these types of procedures. Clearly, these clinics need much more oversight than this.
As if the emotional and humanitarian issues weren’t enough, there’s a strong economic possibility the loss of so many individuals over recent years has negatively impacted our GNP and taxbase to the point it might not recover. Some say the 2006-7 housing downturn would not have occurred, otherwise. Is that good? Or bad? I’ll leave to others.
Or why Gen X is the smallest generational cohort?
The flip side of this issue is that there is a genuine need for late term medical abortion. I have two family members that very badly wanted a child, but several months into the pregnancy, severe problems were discovered. One child died in uterus but because we had a Catholic hospital back then that would not perform an abortion, the mother nearly died from an infection. She had to be taken nearly 200 miles in the back of a pick up truck to the nearest hospital. The other one was only a few years ago and she also had to travel quite a ways to find a hospital that would do the procedure. It also took quite a while to get an appointment, so the pregnancy progressed, the fetus died, and the delivery was much more difficult.
One reason these two women suffered so much was because of bureaucracy and regulations. Common sense generally goes out the window when you put bureaucrats in charge of medical decisions.
I have a friend here who recently had an abortion at around 14 weeks. Just prior, she had had two miscarriages, and really wanted to have a second child, but this baby was diagnosed in utero with Down Syndrome. Her (the friend) has a younger sister with developmental disabilities, and she (the friend) felt like, having grown up taking care of her sister, she didn’t feel like she could go through it again. She is devastated but relieved that they discovered the baby’s condition 1 week before the cutoff for a surgical abortion as opposed to a forced delivery.
While it is obviously none of my business (although she volunteered the info), the fact that I never could have done what she did has changed my feelings towards her. This makes me feel like the Church Lady, and before the fingers start wagging, yes — I would have raised that baby for her. I am just so uncomfortable with my feelings about the whole thing and can’t figure out why. Because my inner “don’t be judgy-judgy” self is battling with my “you just took a life” self. Basically, I am just keeping my mouth shut because she has a strong support system and lots of people in her life who love her and are comforting her.
Wouldn’t her support system have comforted her if she’d given the baby up for adoption?
(Sorry, I’m feeling judgy too)
Myiq, you are not overly sensitive. Aside from an early (but incredibly traumatic) miscarriage in college, which is nothing like what you went through, I have never had such a heartbreaking thing happen to me. But I have worked with many families (and had several friends, as well as a close family member) who have lost babies around the same gestational age that Gosnell was killing them. (In all cases, the babies had to be delivered, a trauma that none of the parents I know, especially the moms of course, have ever gotten over.) It is pretty much unbearable even to read about these cases. I don’t know how you can do it.
What is telling to me is the lengths the pro-choice advocates go to in order to avoid calling them “babies”. They dehumanize them to make it easier to kill them.
Every woman I ever met who was happy to be pregnant talked about “my baby” as a real child. As soon as they know the gender they start calling the baby “he” or “she”. They start choosing names and making plans, buying baby clothes and cribs, bottles, etc.
I did.And loved every minute. 🙂
interesting wonder how many taxpayers are in favor of this