They Must Have Been Busy Watching The Tea Party

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Dailymail:

EXCLUSIVE: Saudi Arabia ‘warned the United States IN WRITING about Boston Bomber Tamerlan Tsarnaev in 2012 and rejected his application for an entry visa to visit Mecca in 2011’

The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia sent a written warning about accused Boston Marathon bomber Tamerlan Tsarnaev to the U.S. Department of Homeland Security in 2012, long before pressure-cooker blasts killed three and injured hundreds, according to a senior Saudi government official with direct knowledge of the document.

The Saudi warning, the official told MailOnline, was separate from the multiple red flags raised by Russian intelligence in 2011, and was based on human intelligence developed independently in Yemen.

Citing security concerns, the Saudi government also denied an entry visa to the elder Tsarnaev brother in December 2011, when he hoped to make a pilgrimage to Mecca. Tsarnaev’s plans to visit Saudi Arabia have not been previously disclosed.

The Saudis’ warning to the U.S. government was also shared with the British government. ‘It was very specific’ and warned that ‘something was going to happen in a major U.S. city,’ the Saudi official said during an extensive interview.

It ‘did name Tamerlan specifically,’ he added. The ‘government-to-government’ letter, which he said was sent to the Department of Homeland Security at the highest level, did not name Boston or suggest a date for his planned attack.

A DHS official denied, however, that Homeland Security received any such warning from Saudi intelligence about Tamerlan Tsarnaev.

‘DHS has no knowledge of any communication from the Saudi government regarding information on the suspects in the Boston Marathon Bombing prior to the attack,’ MailOnline learned from one Homeland Security official who declined to be named in this report.

The White House took a similar view. ‘We and other relevant U.S. government agencies have no record of such a letter being received,’ said Caitlin Hayden, a spokesperson for the president’s National Security Council.


Maybe it’s just my sleazy legal training but I’m reading those two official denials and noticing that they are really non-denial denials. My bullshit detecting antennae are always aroused by carefully parsed statements because that’s how lawyers lie.

If this story is true then our government received TWO specific warnings about Speedbump Tsarnaev. And it’s not like he was hiding out somewhere, the fucker was receiving welfare in his real name. All the agents had to do was go to the place we were sending the checks.

This story really irks me for a couple of reasons. After 9/11 we were told we had to sacrifice some of our freedoms and privacy in order to stop terrorism. I didn’t agree with that crap but they went ahead and passed the Patriot Act anyway, along with some other top secret programs that were so secret they didn’t even have names. They also were supposed to have streamlined government information sharing so the various agencies would be able to communicate with each other.

None of that stuff prevented the Tsarnaev Brothers from setting off bombs at the Boston Marathon, but some good old-fashioned police work might have. Meanwhile, law-abiding citizens are routinely being felt-up at airports and the federal government is obsessed with blaming every incidence of violence on the Tea Party.

Now I hear that Jahar Tsarnaev may plead guilty to a deal that would give him life without parole and I can’t help thinking that if there is a plea deal there won’t be any public airing of the evidence against him. That thought bothers me.


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76 Responses to They Must Have Been Busy Watching The Tea Party

  1. Erin says:

    I know this denial style. I’ve seen it used in my agency when we just have no idea if the information in question was supplied or not. (Disclosure: I am not in DHS). The administration is trying not to call the Suadi’s liars and trying to avoid having to admit they dropped the ball. SIGH – why is it so hard to just admit every once in a while people are not perfect and mistakes do happen.

    • Lulu says:

      The Russians and the Saudi’s think he is a POS. I would think that as great friend of the Saudi’s that they would just keep stuff like this under their hat if he is such a great ally. He isn’t and they know it. He is dangerous to us and to them. His circle of foreign influence, that was nebulous at best, has collapsed. They are ratting him out.

  2. If this is true, the victims and the families of those killed better start demanding some answers. Let’s see if they get the same treatment as those from Sandy Hook – or those from Sept. 11 (et al)

    • leslie says:

      It does smell like Benghazi, doesn’t it?

    • Constance says:

      Well of course this the Boston Bombing thing wasn’t REALLY Islamic terrorism it was actually “recreation event violence”….right?? Do we have a department of recreation event violence? Because THERE is the problem right there we just don’t have enough government and an appropriate department to refer this sort of recreation violence to. So really it was the Sequester and Republicans, Oh! and Sarah Palin.

  3. elliesmom says:

    I don’t have a problem with a sentence of life without parole – after he’s had a jury trial. It’s sad that we’ve come to a place where we can’t praise our legal system for being efficient in circumstances where both the prosecution and the defense know what the outcome will be because we are skeptical of our government’s motives.

    • votermom says:

      I agree completely. WTH should he get a plea deal?

      • lyn5 says:

        My gut feeling always has been that the Obama administration doesn’t have the stomach to see that the Boston bomber scumbag gets the death penalty, because he is “only” 19.

  4. votermom says:

    Bill Bennet is discussing his new book on the radio.
    I really want to read it – hope my lib gets it soon.
    “Is College Worth It?: A Former United States Secretary of Education and a Liberal Arts Graduate Expose the Broken Promise of Higher Education [Hardcover]
    Dr. William J. Bennett, David Wilezol”

  5. Somebody says:

    Cut Janet some slack, the warning letter from the Saudis was probably lost in the stack of ammunition invoices on her desk.

    • lyn5 says:

      ROFLMAO!

    • DeniseVB says:

      My insider source says DHS is the most crappily run organization in the world. JNap’s more concerned about hiring minorities and women despite lack of qualifications …. in anything.

      Some of the mid-managemnt white boys blew a whistle on her and were fired. Then there were the sexual harrassment issues file by …. men. Fired. There’s some buried articles in the media, mostly conservative sources, so they must be lying 😉 CNN does have a blip because one of the grievances involved a rather senior guy. Fired.

      We need a bigger oversight committee.

    • DeniseVB says:

      Found one of the articles about JNap’s “frat house” shennanigans:

      http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/harass_morass_at_dhs_ZgQzw1ztf1pUBXnjz3DyDL

  6. Somebody says:

    All snarking aside, I’m curious about the specifics of the Saudi warning detailed in this article. “Based on human intelligence in Yemen”, that doesn’t fit the narrative of “self-radicalized” or self taught bomb making skills.

    Also, an observation if this is true, this is worse than “Bin Laden determined to strike US”………this is specific and names the perp here in the US. Even so, I don’t think we’ll hear the press howling like we did with Bush. Hell nobody’s head ever rolled over the failures leading up to 9-11 even with hounding from the press.

    • Somebody says:

      Another thought, what if this was a test of our system? What if the brothers did get a little help from AQ, a little money, a little training, but not truly a part of AQ.

      Seems to me AQ would help them along to sort of test our intelligence and see where the weaknesses are. So they could operate accordingly for planning something much larger. AQ is patient they plan for years, they could already have something in the works.

    • 49erDweet (D) says:

      Stolen for a tweet.

  7. votermom says:

    • DeniseVB says:

      Shouldn’t it be special prosecuter time? The longer this drags out the more witnesses the “regime” can intimidate, pay off or shut up permanently.

      Okay, that sounded tin foily, but the rattle of foil in my brain makes more sense than what Obama’s allowed to get away with.

      • Somebody says:

        I agree with you about a special prosecutor. A Congressional committee hearing is not the venue to get to the bottom of things. Everybody on the committee has a few minutes and can usually only ask one or two questions. The person answering usually takes forever to answer, they’re not under oath, blah, blah. Even when somebody pulls pertinent information out the questions then move to the other side then there are five minutes of ass kissing.

        There is just never really a rhythm to the hearings at least to me. Follow up questions never get asked even by people on the same side, because everybody is grandstanding and/or has their own pet issues to get out on the record.

        I think a special prosecutor can do a more cogent investigation. Even a select committee could do a more effective job. My concern with a special prosecutor is another Ken Starr experience. The scope of a special prosecutor should be clearly defined. As much as I would love to spend years digging into every nasty detail of Obama…….maybe even finding his lost records…….I don’t agree with that type of broad, never ending inquiry.

  8. votermom says:

  9. lildoggy4u says:

    I imagine all the DHS personel has been busy deciding on decorating ideas: “New DHS Headquarters is Largest Construction Project in GSA History”
    http://www.gsa.gov/portal/content/133423

    • DeniseVB says:

      Meanwhile, they’re furloughing air marshals. Feel safer?

      • Somebody says:

        Don’t forget the FAA safety inspectors. The fix kept controllers on the job, but did nothing for any of the other employees. There are a lot of behind the scenes people that keep the equipment operating in the control rooms, as well as NAVAIDS across the countryside. All of those people are still furloughed.

        I’ll say it again, this fix was only for this year……next year same crap…..but it won’t bother me as much, LOL!!!

    • Somebody says:

      Are they going to get $60,000 desks? The FAA managers got $60,000 desks a few years ago and $2,500 chairs. I have no doubt they’ll have the department’s insignia at the entrance on the floor made of inlaid marble. Also, the same inlaid marble design at the entrance to the executive suite. That’s pretty standard in buildings across the country.

      Will they have a fridge in the executive bathroom though? I remember seeing a story about one agency that has a fridge in the executive bathroom.

  10. DeniseVB says:

    Yikes, check the pool filter, I’m in moderation !

  11. yttik says:

    We all have to sacrifice some of our freedom in the name of safety…..except for the bad guys. The bad guys will have their privacy respected and their civil rights defended. Isn’t that the way of the world, though? Doesn’t everything turn out like that? Gun control for example, it will inconvenience those who have good intentions and have no inpact at all on those who don’t. Little old ladies and toddlers will be strip searched at airports, terrorists will get welfare and travel visas.

    • votermom says:

      I am so tweeting that!

  12. DeniseVB says:

    Who needs a laugh break ? 😀

  13. Constance says:

    I think it is pretty sad that I instinctively believe the Saudi government over my own government.

  14. @crawdadhole Might be wrong re: Vly Sprngs stabbing. Guy cud be In custody 50 miles away. Weirdo? fxn.ws/ZSSPMf #goldenchain— 49erDweet (D) (@49erdweet) May 1, 2013

    Hoping my original assessment was bonkers and this guy turns out to be the Valley Springs stabbing killer. Even though story is cautious, these two communities are interconnected and relatively major crime-free and IMO this will likely end it. But I could be wrong. Again.

  15. votermom says:

    I put a post up to discuss Plan B

  16. HELENK says:

    Saudi government denies Daily Mail report, says it didn’t have any prior information about suspected Boston Marathon bombers – via @NBCNews

    not sure if this is true or not wanting the world to know just how the Saudi intelligence works

  17. votermom says:

  18. HELENK says:

    http://www.nationalreview.com/article/347049/camp-bastion-cover

    is this another Benghazi, coverup and all?

    nobody seems to talk about this attack

  19. HELENK says:

    http://thehill.com/homenews/house/297191-lieberman-to-testify-at-house-hearing-on-boston-bombing

    will be a busy week in DC
    Benghazi hearings start May 8

    Boston bombing hearings start next week

  20. HELENK says:

    http://freebeacon.com/gowdy-understatement-to-say-we-have-no-confidence-in-arbs-benghazi-investigation/

    you gotta love Trey Gowdy

    understatement to say we have no confidence in the ARBs Benghazi investigation

  21. votermom says:

    LOL

  22. HELENK says:

    http://www.americanthinker.com/2013/05/intelligence_and_the_marathon_bombing.html

    good article on how backtrack and his bunch are NOT keeping us safe

  23. HELENK says:

    obstruction of justice and lying to FBI charges against the three arrested today in Boston bombing

  24. HELENK says:

    press conference in a couple of minutes from lawyers for the latest three arrested in Boston bomber case

  25. HELENK says:

    pictures of the three arrested for helping bombers

  26. HELENK says:

    Megan Kelly talking about just what the three did. video should be available later

  27. HELENK says:

    court appearance in federal courthouse in Boston for three new arrests at 3:30p eastern. should be on tv

  28. HELENK says:

    Affidavit: 2 days after bombing, Dzhokhar appeared to have given himself a short haircut – via @RosieGray

  29. HELENK says:

    copy of criminal complaint against two of the three arrested

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