It’s The GOP’s Fault For Being Prematurely Correct

Benghazi


Alex Seitz-Wald at Salon demonstrates why Vile Progs are vile:

Benghazi returning as big scandal
The GOP may finally get its wish with three new whistle-blowers, but has it already undermined its cred?

There’s been a lot of smoke in the would-be scandal over the Benghazi attacks, but no real fire yet.

But that may change when three “whistle-blowers” give what Republicans expect to be explosive testimony this week before Rep. Darrell Issa’s House Oversight Committee. The controversy over the Sept. 11, 2012, attack on the U.S. consulate and CIA annex in the Libyan city has smoldered, mainly on the right, but the testimony will likely push it back into the mainstream and could be an enormous distraction for an already injured second-term Obama.

Unlike the vast majority of the new information brought forward by the conservative media since the attack, the three whistle-blowers seem credible. One, Gregory Hicks, was the No. 2 State Department official in Libya before the attack and has decades of experience in the Foreign Service. Another, Eric Nordstrom, was the regional security officer in country for State. And the third, Mark Thompson, is the deputy coordinator for operations in the department’s counterterrorism bureau and was involved in Washington’s response to the Libya attacks.

[…]

The charges seem potentially damaging and the accusers credible, but those trying to fan flames of scandal have so embarrassed and discredited themselves by pushing bogus story lines on Benghazi that it may be hard for the media and American people to take any new allegations seriously. For instance, the last time we saw a “Benghazi whistle-blower,” it was an anonymous Fox News source, but he seemed to know so little about basic special operations that military analysts called him a clown and an embarrassment.

In the Fast and Furious scandal, analogous in many ways to Benghazi in the way it played out in the media, there was real wrongdoing, but conservatives grasped at straws to make wider, unsubstantiated allegations that let the actual problems largely escape notice.

If the three new witnesses don’t get the attention they deserve, Fox News and its ilk deserve much of the blame.


Four Americans are dead, an innocent filmmaker is in jail, there is now overwhelming evidence that the Obama administration engaged in a cover-up of their gross negligence, but Salon blames Fox News and the GOP.

Unfuckingbelievable. I can’t believe I once had a paid subscription to Salon.

Pardon me while I scream.


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63 Responses to It’s The GOP’s Fault For Being Prematurely Correct

  1. 49erDweet (D) says:

    If you vile neanderthals had only been patient and understanding, we ethical and responsible people in charge of everything would’ve figured this all out in a few months and eventually come up with what we considered to be the truth. But as it is you scumbags have ruined EVERYTHING. /s/

  2. Cynthia Ruccia says:

    it’s amazing to me how stale and sick the rebuttals from the left have become. No substance just coded talk that means “your side is stupid”

    we have completely lost our ability to have any kind of reasonable conversation about anything with the other side. They come armed with rotten eggs and tomatoes and the minute you open your mouth and stray outside the approved mode of expression, there they are throwing their food…….

    makes them look stupid—hahahahahahaha

    • Lulu says:

      When anyone can mentally justify rigging and stealing elections it is a short hop to rationalizing murder. The recent mind bending of Vile Progs to come up with some insane rationales for Benghazi, the Boston bombing, and Gosnell shows the rot that is Vile Proggy-ness. Their pretense of moral superiority, their rampant narcissism, and hell bent drive to authoritarianism for financial and social gain (in their own minds) exposes their deep dysfunction and stupidity . These people are fucked in the head.

  3. driguana says:

    Everything is now completely topsy-turvy…up is down, right is wrong. It is the doing of the media, politicians and people who don’t take the time to do any investigation of their own. Woke up this morning and saw Marilyn Monroe in the mirror…boy was I surprised when I went to the store!!! But this is Florida…

  4. votermom says:

    Like I predicted, soon this will be Romney’s fault for daring to run against Obama.
    If only he hadn’t, clearly Obama would have been free to respond to the attack properly.
    Romney made Obama do it. He did. The meanie.

  5. myiq2xu says:

    I walked out front to enjoy the cool, quiet stillness of the pre-dawn. I caught movement out of the corner of my eye and glanced over at my neighbor’s just in time to see a big freaking raccoon emerge from under her garage door (she leaves it open about 1 ft for her cats) and scoot off around the corner of her house heading for the creek out back.

    That’s the first time I saw one of those around here.

    • Lulu says:

      We have one that lives in the woods behind us that we call Godzilla. The only reason that we don’t have a hundred is because a pair of hawks that nests nearby eats his/her offspring. There is also a huge old brown rabbit that is starting to look like a kangaroo.

      • elliesmom says:

        I usually bring a bowl of water out on our deck for Ellie if she and I are sending time out there. If I forget to bring it in, at night it attracts racoons and opossums. The raccoons look cute, but they’re nasty critters. If I open the door while they’re out there, they growl at me. The opossum who comes round is so ugly I’m not sure her mother could love her, but she’s really sweet. Keeps her distance, and her eye on me, but never takes an aggressive stance. Sometimes she comes up and peeks in the window. Bunnies don’t survive Maxine who turns them into squeaky toys for Ellie.

  6. myiq2xu says:

    FYI: I plan to live-blog the hearing tomorrow. I am also gonna DVR it so I don’t miss anything.

    It should be really interesting.

  7. myiq2xu says:

    The SF Giants 6 game winning streak ended last night when the Phillies roughed up Mad Bum and ruined his ERA.

    That’s why I am fasting until breakfast.

  8. myiq2xu says:

    Guillotine simulator:

    • myiq2xu says:

      An anonymous reader tipped us to news of an interesting hack for the Oculus Rift: a simulation of being beheaded by a Guillotine. Thrown together in a couple of days at the Exile Code Jam, the simulation lets you…

      “look around to see the blade above, the crowd of onlookers around them, and the executioner who signals the blade be dropped. It also enhances the experience when someone watches the blade falling on a nearby screen and taps the user on the back of the neck at the time of impact.”

      Just a bit morbid. There’s a video of people “playing” (nsfw language in a few reactions to being virtually beheaded).

  9. myiq2xu says:
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  11. myiq2xu says:

    This here is wutcha call a “non-denial denial“:

    Asked about Thompson’s charge that counterterrorism was cut out of the Benghazi response, Carney was ready with a statement from the former head of the Counterterrorism Bureau, Daniel Benjamin.

    “It has been alleged that the State Department’s Counterterrorism Bureau was cut out of the discussion and decision-making in the aftermath of the Benghazi attacks. I ran the bureau then. And I can say now with certainty, as the former coordinator for counterterrorism, that this charge is simply untrue,” said Benjamin, who resigned from his post in December. “At no time did I feel that the bureau was in any way being left out of deliberations that it should have been part of.”

    • Lulu says:

      I hope he has a chiropractor appointment soon to untwist him and pull his head out of his ass.

    • SHV says:

      Here are the two people with opposite opinions, who would your believe”

      “1. Mark’s biography was presented by Larry Johnson. Larry knows him personally, and has this to say about him:

      “Mark is the kind of person that you as a taxpayer want as an employee of the U.S. Government. He is apolitical and is the most experienced person in the Federal Government dealing with international terrorism matters. He led the FEST (aka Foreign Emergency Support Team) to Kenya in the aftermath of the August 1998 Al Qaeda attacks in Nairobi and Dar Es Salaam. He also led the FEST to Yemen for crisis response operations following the bombing in October 2000 of the USS Cole. His knowledge, experience and reputation are above challenge. His professional roots are in the US Marine Corps and he has lived his life in accordance with everything that is virtuous and honorable about Marine Officers. If you had to send your son or daughter into combat and could select their commanding officer, you would choose Mark Thompson.”

      2. Benjamin’s autobiography on Wiki reads as follows:

      “He was a 1983 Marshall Scholar at New College, Oxford where he studied for BA in PPE. He worked as a journalist for TIME MAGAZINE and the Wall Street Journal. He was a scholar on international security. From 1994 to 1999, he served on the National Security Council.[2] He was a Senior Fellow in the International Security Program at the Center for Strategic and International Studies.[3][4] He wrote a column for SLATE MAGAZINE.He was a 2004 Berlin prize fellow by the American Academy in Berlin. From December 2006 to May 2009, he served as the Director for the Center on the United States and Europe, and Senior Fellow of Foreign Policy Studies at The Brookings Institution.[5]From 2009 to 2012, he was the US State Department’s Coordinator for counter-terrorism, with the rank of Ambassador-at-Large.[6]

      Benjamin was in Germany at the time of the attack and was being kept “in the loop” by Mark Thompson who Benjamin and the Vile Progs are trying to say has an “ax to grind” and it lying.

    • Somebody says:

      I think I heard that this Daniel Benjamin the WH is quoting was actually out of the country when Benghazi happened. He wasn’t in DC, but he claims he was contacted.

      I believe the whistle blower guy who says they were cut out was in DC at the time.

      • SHV says:

        One thing that is coming out of this mass of lies is that the patronage system is really screwed up. The fact that dilettante political hack like Benjamin is head of counter terrorism is insane. This POS quit his job as soon as the shit hit the fan.

        • Somebody says:

          Yep agreed SHV. Larry Johnson at No Quarter has some interesting info on Benjamin and Thompson. It seems it was Thompson’s job to keep Benjamin informed…….Thompson says they were cut out, Benjamin says not……just because he says so I guess.
          http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/

    • yttik says:

      IMO, Hillary went along with the White House narrative and then helped to provide cover for them when the SHTF. This article attempts to place all of the responsibility on her, but that would only be true if she had gone rogue and was not serving this administration. Like it or not, the Prez sets foreign policy, he writes the narrative, he directs the State Dept. All roads eventually lead back to this administration.

      • Somebody says:

        Based on everything I’ve seen if push comes to shove Hillary will fall on her sword for Obama. She clearly bears responsibility, but I agree she didn’t go rogue……no way in hell the WH wasn’t in the loop.

        • Lulu says:

          Especially since she was surrounded by sycophant “minders” placed by the WH. If they have set her up to be a fall woman she needs to rat them out now.

      • DeniseVB says:

        In a serious society, Benghazi, standing alone, would spell the end of Hillary Clinton’s public career. But there is much more.

        In a serious society was the phrase that caught my attention. The author is no fan of Hillary, but seems to think this will blow over by the time she’s nominated…..and elected.

        • yttik says:

          Hillary appears to have the respect of the Pentagon and Republican leaders in congress. At least that’s what I conclude based on several emails that have been made public.

          I’m sure the media, the Obama administration, would like her to become the fall guy, but I’m not sure there is enough support for that from within Washington. Also, if Hillary is entirely to blame for Benghazi, that means the President was not at the helm at all, which is a really bad narrative.

          I don’t believe any of this has anything to do with Hillary running for Prez in 2016. I think the media is just trying to drop another squirrel and distract us all from the facts of Benghazi. Rather then focus on whether or not the Obama administration was incompetent, the media would like us to speculate on how this impacts Hillary’s alleged presidential run. It’s a diversion.

        • votermom says:

          Maybe the Dems will make Hillary the scapegoat hoping that the Clinton popularity will see her through (as it did during Bill’s impeachment).
          If she survives it then so doe their brand.
          I want to know who gave the Stand Down order.

        • yttik says:

          I don’t think Hillary could have given the stand down order. She was more of a bureaucrat. She authorized or didn’t authorize extra security for the ambassador, based on the President’s policies, I suspect.

        • votermom says:

          I don’t think she gave the Stand Down order either … even if she did, though, I want to know.
          It’s impossible for an order to be anonymous – that’s the whole point of having a chain of command.

        • DeniseVB says:

          vm and yttk: As I recall, 2 generals were relieved who fought the “stand down” order ?

  12. foxyladi14 says:

    I will DVR it and pass the Popcorn. 🙂

    • 49erDweet (D) says:

      Smart money sez something will come up – possibly another squirrel – and it won’t happen. Sigh.

  13. Constance says:

    I don’t think you can take down Obama with Benghazi without taking down Hillary. I don’t think Hillary ever had much of a chance of being the Democrat nominee for President in 2016 but since Benghazi she has even less of a chance of ever being President. Should she run again, the Dems wouldn’t hesitate to use their highly effective sexism against her but now with Benghazi the Republicans have legitimate evidence of scandal and incompetence to use against her.

  14. myiq2xu says:

    I am shocked! Shocked!

    Kim K divorce: She may be ‘forced to admit faking scenes’

    Kris Humphries’ lawyers reportedly intend to force Kim Kardashian to admit under oath that she staged scenes for her show, “Keeping Up With the Kardashians.”

    The pregnant reality star is “freaking out that she is going to be forced to testify that aspects of the Kardashian reality show are fake,” a source told RadarOnline. “Kim has always said how much she loves her fans and viewers.”

    At least I can be sure the pro wrestling is real.

  15. DeniseVB says:

    The media’s playing catchup and had they only done their jobs months ago, we’d probably be picking on President Romney right now 😀

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2013/05/06/Media-Plays-Catchup-on-Benghazi-Scandal

  16. myiq2xu says:

    Ed Morrissey:

    Recall that the attack took place in the middle of the general election, just a couple of weeks after the party conventions. Obama and the Democrats had just argued that the administration’s foreign-policy successes, including the intervention in Libya, showed that America had a steady and seasoned commander-in-chief, and that voters should think twice before electing an untried Mitt Romney.

    On the ground in Benghazi, however, the truth was that the sudden vacuum of power had liberated not eastern Libya but the Islamist terrorist networks that had long operated there. Militias competed with the weak central government’s forces for control of Benghazi, and terrorists ran much of what lay outside of the city. Other Western nations packed up their diplomatic installations and headed back to Tripoli, but not the United States. Instead, the U.S. kept its consulate open while reducing its security forces even in the face of intelligence of increasing danger, and escalating attacks on Western assets. …

    To ask Clinton’s question again, what difference at this point would it have made? It’s possible that the team could have gotten on the ground in time to repel the second attack, although the timing would have been close. If the hearings focus on this one issue, though, it will miss the real failures in Benghazi.

    The administration’s intervention in Libya created a power vacuum in eastern Libya, which it refused to acknowledge, and which eventually led not just to this attack but the near-sacking of Mali, which was prevented only by the French military. Instead, State under Clinton reduced the security at this outpost while our allies fled the city, even while nearby terrorist attacks increased. No one in State or the White House prepared for the obvious al Qaeda interest in attacking vulnerable American assets on the anniversary of 9/11. When the inevitable happened, rather than putting all our assets in play to fight the terrorists, the first impulse of Obama and Clinton seems to have been to deny that a terrorist attack had taken place at all as a means of covering up the gross incompetence of the past year in Libya.

    With the administration beating war drums over the use of chemical weapons in Syria, if somewhat half-heartedly, a full and honest accounting of Benghazi and the Obama administration’s Libya policies in general makes a great deal of difference at this or any other point.

  17. myiq2xu says:

    Via Hot Air:

    Libya’s defense minister resigned as gunmen extended their siege of ministries in Tripoli for a second day, demanding the government’s resignation and tougher rules to bar Muammar Qaddafi-era officials from state jobs.

    Mohammed Al-Barghathi, a fighter pilot during the Qaddafi era, quit because of events during the past two days, the official Libya News Agency reported, without giving further details. On May 5, Libya’s parliament passed the so-called Isolation Law, which bars from office senior officials who served under Qaddafi for at least 10 years. The law comes into effect on June 5.

    Militiamen with machine guns and anti-aircraft weapons began blockading the Foreign and Interior ministries on April 28, demanding that parliament pass the law. The siege was raised on May 5, then resumed and extended to other ministries after gunmen rejected the measure.

    Libya is mired in unrest two years after the ouster of Qaddafi, with militias across the country refusing to disarm and Islamists on the rise in the oil-producing east. The ability of the gunmen to lay siege to state institutions highlights the weakness of the central government and its security forces.

  18. HELENK says:

    http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/55015

    Will Hilary be charged with obstruction of justice?

  19. HELENK says:

    this was on October 6 2012

  20. votermom says:

  21. DeniseVB says:

    LOL, Fred Thompson:

    White House spokesman Jay Carney said in response to a question about the Benghazi attack that it “happened a long time ago.”

    Yeah, sorta like that Bush administration Obama keeps blaming everything on.

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