Denial is a River in Prog World


The Hill:

White House: ‘No knowledge’ of AP phone record seizure

The White House on Monday distanced President Obama from the Department of Justice’s seizure of Associated Press telephone records.

“Other than press reports, we have no knowledge of any attempt by the Justice Department to seek phone records of the AP,” White House press secretary Jay Carney said in a statement.

Previous presidents have claimed amnesia on occasion, but I can’t recall another administration that so frequently professed ignorance about the activities of the various departments within the Executive Branch. Not only does the president rely on the news media to make him aware of scandals, but his department heads are equally ignorant of what goes on in their departments. It’s the “Know Nothing” administration.

Atlantic Wire:

Obama Tells Harvey Weinstein, Justin Timberlake to Blame Rush Limbaugh

President Obama told donors like Jessica Biel, Justin Timberlake (who was wearing hipster glasses), and Tommy Hilfiger that Washington gridlock is pretty much Rush Limbaugh’s fault on Monday evening at a fundraiser at Harvey Weinstein’s house in New York’s Greenwich Village. Obama admitted that his theory — that after the 2012 election, the Republican “fever” would break, and they’d decide to co-sign some of his agenda — was wrong. “My thinking was when we beat them in 2012 that might break the fever, and it’s not quite broken yet,” Obama said, according to the White House pool report. This is because of a certain corpulent radio host. “I genuinely believe there are Republicans out there who would like to work with us but they’re fearful of their base and they’re concerned about what Rush Limbaugh might say about them. And as a consequence we get the kind of gridlock that makes people cynical about government.”

Multiple scandals in Washington DC, Obama claims he knows nothing about any of them, but he’s in New York City fundraising and blaming it all on Rush Limbaugh. If that is what Obama truly believes then he really is ignorant.


Carl Bernstein: IRS targeting not Watergate

Journalist Carl Bernstein said President Barack Obama is no Richard Nixon on Monday, and he would know.

“It’s terrible,” Bernstein said of the IRS’s targeting of conservative groups in an appearance on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe.” “Outrageous. Heads ought to roll. Simple as that. … From what we know so far, some high-up heads.”

But Bernstein said that conservatives who are eager to equate the IRS scandal to Watergate should hold their horses.

While the Nixon-era IRS investigated his political enemies and subjected them to audits, it did so at the direction of the president and his aides. No evidence has emerged linking Obama or the White House to the IRS scandal.

“In the Nixon White House, we heard the president of the United States on tape saying ‘Use the IRS to get back on our enemies,” said Bernstein, whose reporting helped lead to Nixon’s eventual resignation. “We know a lot about President Obama, and I think the idea that he would want the IRS used for retribution — we have no evidence of any such thing.”

Obama wouldn’t do a nasty thing like that, would he? This is circular logic – we have an abuse of Executive Branch power but since there is no smoking gun directly linking it to Obama there is no reason to investigate and see if a link exists. That’s like saying that cops should only investigate crimes that were already solved.

I would truthfully be surprised if a smoking gun existed in this case. One of the lessons of Watergate was “plausible deniability”. There won’t be any memos or tapes, and the guys who carry out orders never speak directly to the head cheese.

We are supposed to believe that numerous low-level IRS employees across the country took it upon themselves to inappropriately focus on conservative groups. When their higher-up found out they told them to stop but they just used different criteria to reach the same result. Somehow it continued for two years but the White House was totally unaware. To date, nobody has been fired or disciplined.

Maybe Carl Bernstein should write another book and call it “All The President’s Low-Level Employees”.

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137 Responses to Denial is a River in Prog World

  1. myiq2xu says:

    Michael Ledeen:

    It takes a special skill to read bureaucratic memos. When I was getting ready to work at the State Department way back in the last century, Henry Kissinger gave me good advice:

    The only reason to write a memo is if you want it leaked.

  2. votermom says:

    Good Morning!
    Surely today the Obama admin has run out of scandals to explode…

  3. DeniseVB says:

    Blame Rush not Bush ? That’s a refreshing change.

    If I take my walkies when he’s on, I’ll listen to him, but I’ll make it a point to listen to him today. Thanks to Obama, I’m sure his audience will double this week. My take away from his program is that he will bash both parties if they do or say something stupid, of course, that’s mostly Obama these days, 24/7.

    Oh, and remember how Obama treated his opponents in Illinois? Now he’s doing it to his country.

    Carl Bernstein’s a vile prog too. Always has been. No Carl, this is not like Watergate, it’s much worse!

    • myiq2xu says:

      When there is evidence of scandalous or bizarre behavior on the part of a political figure, and no reasonable explanation is revealed within 24 to 48 hours, then the truth is probably as bad as everyone suspects.

      • Lulu says:

        True that. The IRS mess is already traced back to DC. The dopes in Cincy making up crazy intrusive questionnaires and “special rules” for the enemies of the Progs, like teaparty, limited government, strict constitutionalists, pro-Israel Jews, etc is already shown to be a lie. The Obama-ites showed themselves to be bullying aggressive thugs in 2007-2008! They have repeatedly used federal agencies and employees to dominate and bully (with a chilling effect) political speech, economic activity that does not meet their political agenda, and to punish ENTIRE states that do not buckle to their will. Does any of this really surprise anyone who followed the Dem primaries 2008? It is more of the same only writ larger. This is what authoritarians do and I am not surprised at any of it. They terrorize people with bastardized versions of rules and enforcement of the federal government. It is their own form of domestic terrorism and why they didn’t think Bengahzi was that bad and couldn’t be fixed with a little creative writing and lying like they do for everything else.

        • Mary says:


        • myiq2xu says:

          Government databases contain a lot of information about all of us. Social Security, IRS, criminal records, passport info, military records, divorce files and now, thanks to Obama, medical records.

          When a politician is unscrupulous they can’t resist the temptation to look into those records for information to help them win elections and blackmail people into doing what they want. Even worse is when the IRS and FBI are used to punish and intimidate opponents.

          That’s why we need bright lines separating politics from governance and strict enforcement. There are no “harmless” violations.

        • Lulu says:

          It is already extremely illegal to do this IRS stuff. The laws are very clear. All of this dodging and weaving to make it look just a little unethical is bullshit. The Obama-ites even gave the information to their think tanks to push back on the teaparty and Republican party candidates. This is a felony.

        • Mary says:

          I wanna repeat what Lulu just said, for emphasis.

          Not only did the Obama-ites create these crazy questions and applications just for their political enemies, but they sent COPIES of those applications—with all private information included—to left wing think tanks to use in their own anti-Tea Party publications. (In which they said “anonymous sources” provided the info)

          True story.

  4. Somebody says:

    There is no way the attorney general went after a major news organization without running the idea by the President at least once. The way the laws are the attorney general was the only one that could have signed off on this so Eric Holder can run but he can’t hide.

    Although if you believe some of the rumors I suppose it’s possible that Obama didn’t know. A lot of the rumors are it’s really Valerie Jarret running things??? Still I assure you somebody or multiple people in the WH knew.

    As far as the IRS there is a distinct chain of command going up to the commissioner and then to the Treasury secretary and from there to the WH. What did turbo tax Timmy know and when did he know it?

    Another issue as far the IRS, the government knows who accessed what tax records. Their system has been that way since the 70’s. That’s not to say someone couldn’t have stolen someone’s ID, etc., but for the most part it’s not a mystery or at least shouldn’t be.

    So question why all the scandals? Is some of it on purpose? Red meat provided from the WH or the lap dogs in the media to confuse and overwhelm? OR is all this just trickling out people seeing TSHTF, rats jumping a sinking ship and leaking????

    • Lulu says:

      Scandals weaken presidents. They wreck havoc on their popularity, polling, authority, ability to respond. It is like a damn breaking. I called it the revenge of the mandarins. The professional civil service has been treated like shit, used as political tools and it is pay back time. The three men testifying at the Benghazi hearing were probably the first of many.

  5. Anthony says:

    Bernstein on ‘Morning Joe’ today (after Mika’s iPhone signaled an incoming email and she shoved it across the desk for him to read):

    “He wasn’t aware of these things (IRS, AP, Benghazi) because of the insularity of the executive branch, and we shouldn’t hold him personally responsible”

    Within seconds, David Gregory, Andrea Mitchell, Bernstein (again), Mika and some other nondescript blathering idiot must have consulted a thesaurus because every variation of the word “insular” was used to take the heat off the POTUS. I guess that’s the official denial/defense.

    Ten bucks sez the email came from President Jarrett. Back to you…

    • Lulu says:

      If that is what they want to go with so be it. A detached, lazy, ignorant, incompetent. thin-skinned, speechifying dope is insular too. Without knowing it they are spreading the talking point that the job is too big for him and he might need to move to the ex-Presidents column if he can’t cut the mustard.

      • Anthony says:

        Those were my thoughts too, Lulu. “He’s out of touch, incompetent, clueless” – all of those and more came to mind, wondering how whomever wrote that email and the fucking brainless dolts sitting in front of those cameras not see that?!

        If that’s how they want to call it, I suppose I should do my civic duty and spread it around as well

    • Somebody says:

      Well technically there is some truth to the insularity argument. There were a lot of lessons learned from Watergate one of which was how to create plausible deniability, how to insulate the President.

      There are no doubt ties leading back to the WH, but I’m sure they covered their tracks well. You’ll never get through the doors of the oval office unless someone in the inner circle breaks, the odds of that are low.

      Go back and take a look at Iran-Contra for an example of how to insulate the President………and everybody thought Obama was full of shit when said he admired Ronald Reagan!

  6. swanspirit says:

    Obama and his DOJ spied on AP , because it was probably the one organization they could not “control “. They think they have just about everyone else under control or at least in the tank for them . They could never control FOX , so they have done their damndest to marginalize ,ridicule ,and invalidate FOX to the extent that most Obots dismiss anything they hear from Fox as false or at best misguided .
    I find it deliciously hilarious that the media ,that helped create the monster that is the Control Freak In Chief in the White House, by protecting him from the moment he announced his candidacy ,had turned on them ,spied on them. and attempted to intimidate them further ; and now that big worm that is the media is turning on Obama .
    Anyone here watch the show River Monsters? This last one was about Lampreys , a horrible sucking vampire fish that latches on and wont let go .Obama just stepped into a tank of them .

    • Lulu says:

      I think AP was in the ideological tank with Obama. I think that is why they are so shocked that their service to him has been rewarded with this. The lesson is that you can kiss his shoes and he (and his minions) will still treat you like shit.

    • Somebody says:

      Speaking of Fox they probably have permanent wire taps for all Fox news reporters, especialy Catherine Herridge and Jennifer Griffin.

    • Mary says:

      So true! I’ve watched Morning Joe for two mornings in a row–something I don’t usually do, but wanted to see their feedback on these scandals.

      Yesterday, Joe was outraged about the IRS scandal, and the others—especially Carl Bernstein—massaged the story to whittle it away from Obama and still protect him.

      Today, it was Carl Berstein who was outraged—-but only about the AP story–because, finally, it affected something that mattered to HIM.

      It has indeed turned. Obama has messed with the very press that adored him, protected him, covered for him. And they’re PISSED.

      Let the games begin.

      • Lulu says:

        It is only because their fee-fees are hurt. When Obama betrays or double crosses someone else they don’t give a rat’s ass. Obama welched on their deal.

        • Mary says:

          True story. And if Obama thinks that THIS time, he can trash Rush Limbaugh and that will be enough, he’s dumber than I thought he was. Arrogant SOB.

  7. myiq2xu says:

    Bobby Jindal and Scott Walker:

    “We write to you today disturbed after learning that the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) has been unfairly targeting and applying added scrutiny to applicants for tax-exempt status based on their conservative beliefs. To be blunt, this is Big Brother come to life and a witch hunt to prevent Americans from exercising their First Amendment rights.”

  8. Anthony says:

    It’s never good for a President to have their name linked with Richard Nixon twice in the same week

  9. votermom says:

    It’s bad when even Jon Stewart has to come out against it
    (but not before reassuring his viewers that Benghazi is still a nothing-burger; which tells me that’s still the biggest scandal)

    • Lulu says:

      I agree. It is horrible. When you just let the peons die it and then go to bed to rest up for a little campaign cash gathering without a second thought it might look like you are fucked up. He is and now we have proof. It looks bad because it is.

    • Mary says:

      Sorry, Jon. You’re too late. You’ve spent years avoiding any real criticism of this administration. In fact , you’ve spent all your
      comedic energy ridiculing O’Reilly and anyone else on the other side. You’re part of the problem.

  10. myiq2xu says:
    • votermom says:

      This goes in hand with my theory that the lesson the Dems learned from Watergate is that they can do whatever they want as long as the media ignores it.

      • Lulu says:

        And they and you were right. The problem with the IRS is that it will be used in the same way against the Dems the next go around and they know it. Then there is the little problem of the IRS as enforcement arm for ObamaCare. What will Obama do with that if not stopped? Will he through the IRS deny medical care (through bureaucratic selection) to anyone who is not ideologically pure? This increases the possibility of repeal.

      • Mary says:

        Or as long as the Journolisters can change the subject and massage the truth.

  11. Anthony says:

    Functional idiot Jay Carney refers the DOJ’s wiretap scandal to be investigated by (drumroll…..) THE DOJ!!!

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  14. DeniseVB says:

    Some stories from the ground troops trying to start a tea party group via ABC news.

    I’m surprised these people didn’t consult with a tax attorney, but grassroots groups usually don’t have the money to hire one until they can legally raise funds. Guess the IRS knew that. 😉

  15. myiq2xu says:
  16. votermom says:

    Warning: Stupid obama video on auto-play on this link – mute your speaker before clicking

    “The Obama effort to shut up opponents isn’t limited to the IRS,” he stated. “It applies to the FCC [Federal Communications Commission], SEC [Securities and Exchange Commission], FEC [Federal Elections Commission], HHS [Department of Health and Human Services] …. And you remember, the Obama campaign last year published a list of eight businessmen who it believed were enemies.”
    McConnell further noted reports that the Department of Health and Human Services had been contacting businesses “skeptical about the implementation of Obamacare and asking them to contribute money to sell the program to the American people. That’s absolutely improper if not illegal. This administration will stop at nothing to get its way. It will do anything it can to silence its critics.”

    • DeniseVB says:

      There should be a law against auto-play, especially the ads. I’ve learned to keep my speakers muted all the time now 😦

      If the Dems were smart, they’d investigate the IRS covering the Bush years. For some reason, both sides must do this, and it’s just wrong. Probably why we’ll never get the Fair Tax passed …. it eliminates the IRS !

    • yttik says:

      LOL! That’s pretty funny.

      I have no sympathy for Carney or any other presidential mouthpiece in hot water. I realize how difficult it must be to walk out and lie for a president over and over again, but I do enjoy watching them squirm.

      • DeniseVB says:

        His option is to refuse to do it and lose a 6-figure job with no future job prospects in sight? Sure, he’ll hang on 😉

    • Lulu says:

      I think Sideshow Bob is Obama.

  17. Jeez, in hindsight Candy Crowley’s lifeline to obama during the presidential debate looks even more appalling.

    “ROMNEY: You said in the Rose Garden the day after the attack it was an act of terror. It was not a spontaneous demonstration.
    OBAMA: Please proceed.
    ROMNEY: Is that what you’re saying?
    OBAMA: Please proceed, Governor.
    ROMNEY: I want to make sure we get that for the record, because it took the president 14 days before he called the attack in Benghazi an act of terror.
    OBAMA: Get the transcript.
    CROWLEY: It – he did in fact, sir.
    OBAMA: Can you say that a little louder, Candy?
    CROWLEY: He did call it an act of terror. It did as well take two weeks or so for the whole idea of there being a riot out there about this tape to come out. You are correct about that.

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    • DeniseVB says:

      Can’t help but notice the GOP’s getting pretty fiesty on their social medias and news shows wagging their finger at Team Obama. Guess there’s nothing unsavory in their past 😉

  21. votermom says:

    THESE are the people we’re supporting against Assad?

    WARNING: Graphic disgusting video on autoplay

    Syrian rebel leader eats heart of enemy soldier on camera [VIDEO]
    A video posted online on Sunday shows Abu Sakkar, the leader of the Syrian rebel group Farouq Brigade, taking a bite out of the heart of a dead Syrian soldier. Sakkar is shown cutting into the torso of the soldier and saying to his comrades, “I swear to God we will eat your hearts and your livers, you soldiers of Bashar the dog,” Reuters reports.

    His companions cheer “Allahu akbar” off screen. Peter Bouckaert of Human Rights Watch called the videos a disturbing symbol of the changing tide of the Syrian conflict.

    “The mutilation of the bodies of enemies is a war crime. But the even more serious issue is the very rapid descent into sectarian rhetoric and violence,” Bouckaert said.

    The conflict started with peaceful protests in 2011, but turned into a violent civil war that has seen over 80,000 casualties.

  22. Somebody says:

    This is OT but important, the UN gave the west the middle finger again.

  23. Lulu says:

    I still think the IRS news dump was to get out in front of the IG report AND divert attention from the Benghazi hearings. But they are so amoral that they thought it was a little problem and could be used to “look squirrel” for a few days to let Benghazi cool off. A taxing authority and enforcement agency used as brownshirt thought and speech police is no biggie (it is SOP) in Chicago. Then the dam broke.

  24. myiq2xu says:
  25. nerdle says:

    Not sure if anyone posted this yesterday. It’s pretty disgusting and I think is very telling of the deteriorating situation in Syria.

    • votermom says:

      Just posted it upthread – unbelievable
      This is the side we’re supporting, and possibly the same people we might have tried to supply guns to via #Benghazi

      • nerdle says:

        Ah, didn’t see that! Sorry.

        Every time we involve ourselves in a Middle Eastern country, it goes to shit. You’d think the US would know by now, but no.

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  27. Lulu says:

    My elderly and very gentlemanly neighbor’s quote this morning about the AP reporter phone record fiasco: “So the media sucked his &@!!$ and he still backhanded them.” Oh dear.

  28. driguana says:

    And then there is the whole Sibelius thing and the administration looking for donations before they will allow bids to be considered….the hole is a very deep one…

    • DeniseVB says:

      I would want to review the bids and see who got awarded contracts. This is right up there with new gov contracts must use union labor. Ahhhh, good ole Chicago pay to play tactic.

  29. piper says:

    More offices involved in targeting Tea Party groups

    Internal Revenue Service Tea Party targeting went beyond an Ohio office, and the current and ex-IRS heads knew about the practice a year ago, records indicate.

    IRS officials at the agency’s Washington headquarters and at offices in El Monte, Calif., east of Los Angeles and Laguna Niguel in California’s southern Orange County sent queries to conservative groups asking about their donors and other facets of their operations, documents obtained by The Washington Post indicate.

    • DeniseVB says:

      I saw that it was spreading to other offices, not just a rogue group in Cincy. Surprised it’s showing up in the very safe state of California offices. Was Romney that close there? Wow.

      • Somebody says:

        I could be wrong but most government agencies operate via regions. I imagine the stuff coming out of CA went to a variety of western states.

  30. piper says:

    From Jim Hoft at Gateway Pundit

    Kirstin Powers on Barack Obama’s Benghazi “lies.”

    “He’s so centrally involving himself with these repeated lies. And, I’m just going to call them lies because they’re lies. They’re on tape. Nobody thought that he called it a terrorist attack. Last night I went up and I looked at The New York Times how they reported it (Benghazi) the day after. They never reference that we had a terrorist attack against the United States. On September 20th, however, they run a story that says Libyan envoys killing was a terrorist attack. And they say until now White House officials have not used that language in describing the assault. That is September 20th. That is The New York Times. Now at what point are people going to get tired of the president coming out and over and over saying things like don’t believe your lying eyes?“

  31. votermom says:

    As someone who gets creeped out by teh GE healthcare Agent Smith ad, this is awesome

  32. HELENK says:

    Russia just arrested a State Dept employee for trying to recruit a spy.
    Brian Fogel had money and spy equipment when arrested

    • HELENK says:

      #BREAKING Russia orders expulsion of US diplomat accused of trying to recruit Russian officer for CIA.

  33. ecoast says:

    Who broke the AP wiretapping story?

  34. HELENK says:

    Click to access Appendix%20VI%20and%20Appendix%20VII.PDF

    IRS timeline for targeting conservative group

  35. myiq2xu says:

    And we have another!

    • Somebody says:

      This goes along with the EPA email scandal that still hasn’t really been covered.

      Although I do think the new deportation counting methods that basically cooked the books and the new rule about it taking 3 crimes to deport is an important story that’s getting lost. That whistle blower story was out last week I believe. I think it’s important with the immigration bill still moving forward.

  36. HELENK says:

    thought this was perfect for today

  37. myiq2xu says:
    • Somebody says:

      I’ve heard rumblings around that some of the CIA Benghazi survivors were lawyering up to testify and be whistle blowers. Word is supposedly there will be more info coming forward by the end of the week.

      Maybe they should hold their powder until next week, the scandal agenda seems to be pretty full this week

  38. Somebody says:

    Somebody is going to need to create a scandal app so we can keep track of everything.

  39. votermom says:

    Even worse than the heart-eating
    A recent photograph has been released showing a Syrian rebel placing a human head on a barbecue, grilling his head.

  40. HELENK says:

    something we should always remember, the backtrack bunch consider us enemies and warfare against is ok

    • nerdle says:

      This administration has spent so much time waging a war against Americans based on paranoia, it’s no wonder real attacks like the Boston Marathon occurred.

  41. Mary says:

    Fox News reporting that Att General Holder has recused himself from investigations into AP scandal.

    Announcement to come in Justice Dept press conference later.

  42. Just to juxtapose that Bernstein comment from yesterday, here he is today, regarding the AP story:

    To say there was no knowledge in, quote, specifically about this in the White House is nonsense. This is a policy matter and this does go to the president.

    He’s a fool. He’s also a partisan hack who has a NIMBY problem.

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