It Ain’t Over ‘Til It’s Over

Posted on May 21, 2013 by Myiq2xu - BA, JD, FJB

The Hammer of Kraut:

“Yes, the Republicans are up in arms but the Democrats are too. This thing will go on and it could be fatal.”

Is it wrong that I am enjoying this?

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45 Responses to It Ain’t Over ‘Til It’s Over

  2. Lola-at-Large says:
    May 21, 2013 at 5:10 pm

    Just ridiculous, everything that’s happened. And OFA is out in force in comments on every major news website from WaPo to Politico to the Hill. The new angle developing is that the GOP and especially their supporters are traitorous and against “Team America.”

    I saw one guy commenting that REAL Americans wanted Obama to find the leaker in the AP fiasco. WTF? Guy was probably twelve when vile progs were up in arms about Bush’s treatment of leakers.

    There are just no words for these vile progs. We are so far beyond just words. They seriously are not acting like Americans, let alone progressives.

  3. Lola-at-Large says:
    May 21, 2013 at 5:14 pm

    Oh, and fucking NPR this evening, the nerve. You know how they characterized the IRS scandal? They kept repeating the term “former practice of the IRS.” Emphasis always on “former.” As IF. There is just not one lick of integrity among these leftists hangers-on in the press. Not one. Greg Plum, the folks at NPR, Ezra Klein, et al.

  4. swanspirit says:
    May 21, 2013 at 5:21 pm

    No guilt for enjoying this , it has been a rough row to hoe for a long time

  5. Lola-at-Large says:
    May 21, 2013 at 5:28 pm

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2013/05/21/internal-irs-probe-cited-same-problems-with-approach-to-conservative-groups-in-may-2012-house-aide-says/

    It looks like they got Lerner out just in time. Then they set up the guy who ordered the investigation to take the fall, if I am reading this right.

    • Lulu says:
      May 21, 2013 at 5:48 pm

      Miller was lying through his teeth if this information is true. He knew all about it but drug his feet or was told to do nothing. These people were switching titles so frequently that it appears almost as a way to avoid responsibility. The ones that had enough service years are taking the heat, playing stupid and retiring. Lerner probably has enough to retire or close to it. But they are all protecting Ingram for some reason and singing her praises. Lerner has a history of harassment and bullying at the FEC so that may play a part in pleading the 5th since she has been involved in questionable tactics before. http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/irss-lerner-had-history-harassment-inappropriate-religious-inquiries-fec_725004.html

      • Lola-at-Large says:
        May 21, 2013 at 6:38 pm

        Thank you. No one in this whole affair is innocent apparently.

        • Lulu says:
          May 21, 2013 at 7:02 pm

          It like when the Mafia members take turns going to jail only with this group they take turns acting stupid and retiring. What I find interesting is that these stoodges are all lawyers, none are trained in public administration or management. Usually in the big agencies lawyers are just legal advisers and not administrators. Where are the public administrators who make bureaucracies run?

  6. votermom says:
    May 21, 2013 at 5:39 pm

    • Lulu says:
      May 21, 2013 at 5:51 pm

      If you tell the public repeatedly that you are an idiot they will believe you.

    • Mary says:
      May 21, 2013 at 6:02 pm

      Speaking of polls, as opposed to the CNN poll of 51% approval,

      Gallup shows 49%
      Rasmussen shows 47%
      Fox News shows 45%

      He ain’t “maintaining” at all.

  7. gumsnapper says:
    May 21, 2013 at 5:55 pm

    Bret Baier reported that the DOJ also seized the phone records of James Rosen’s parents – yup, his parents.

    • 1539days says:
      May 21, 2013 at 8:38 pm

      If you pull someone’s LUDs (phone records) and all those people’s LUDs and so on, you get a Kevin Bacon effect. 6 degrees of separation and you have everyone’s phone records.

  8. Somebody says:
    May 21, 2013 at 6:06 pm

    Wow after slowing down a little bit over the weekend scandalpalooza heated up today!

    I can’t believe Lerner is pleading the 5th.

    I hope now that there have been two private press briefings for the journolisters that the rest of the press is pissed off. Between that and the continuing revelations about DOJ spying on AP and Fox, hopefully the press will really do their job…….except of course the journolisters.

    • 49erDweet (D) says:
      May 21, 2013 at 6:58 pm

      More and more I’m considering the “scandal to come” WH staffers are paranoid over has to do with someone important’s physical location when the “3 AM call” came in that afternoon and evening. Not wishing to be irresponsible, I think he was in a naughty place with naughty people doing naughty things. But it might be even more serious than doing a Patraeus or visiting a philosophical medical clinic.

  9. Lola-at-Large says:
    May 21, 2013 at 6:39 pm

    FYI: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limited_hangout

    A limited hangout, or partial hangout, is a public relations or propaganda technique that involves the release of previously hidden information in order to prevent a greater exposure of more important details. It takes the form of deception, misdirection, or coverup often associated with intelligence agencies involving a release or “mea culpa” type of confession of only part of a set of previously hidden sensitive information, that establishes credibility for the one releasing the information who by the very act of confession appears to be “coming clean” and acting with integrity; but in actuality, by withholding key facts, is protecting a deeper operation and those who could be exposed if the whole truth came out. In effect, if an array of offenses or misdeeds is suspected, this confession admits to a lesser offense while covering up the greater ones.

    A limited hangout typically is a response to lower the pressure felt from inquisitive investigators pursuing clues that threaten to expose everything, and the disclosure is often combined with red herrings or propaganda elements that lead to false trails, distractions, or ideological disinformation; thus allowing covert or criminal elements to continue in their improper activities.

    That explains the planted question.

  10. myiq2xu says:
    May 21, 2013 at 7:10 pm
    • insanelysane says:
      May 22, 2013 at 5:09 pm

      Not the way I read it. It was Hillary’s job to run a review of the Benghazi incident. That seems appropriate and correct.
      The article said Maxwell was the scapegoat. He said he was forced out or let go .
      Article says he was set to retire in September 2012. Then he claims he was forced out in September 2012. Retire = scapegoat?

  12. myiq2xu says:
    May 21, 2013 at 8:01 pm
    • myiq2xu says:
      May 21, 2013 at 8:09 pm

      The six Cincinnati workers we have identified, who sent scrutinizing letters to conservative groups with words including “patriot, liberty, tea party or 9-12” in their names are Mitchel Steele, Carly Young, Joseph Herr, Stephen Seok, Liz Hofacre and a woman identified only as Ms. Richards.

      But was all of this done at the hands of a small group of Cincinnati employees working together? During Friday’s congressional hearing, that appeared to be the theme. Now, that explanation just became less likely.

      Thanks to two FOX19 sources connected to the IRS, we now understand the chain of command for these workers.

      Mitchel Steele, Carly Young, Joseph Herr and Liz Hofacre are IRS agents. Stephen Seok is a supervisor IRS agent.

      But according to the IRS employee directory that FOX19 has obtained exclusively, each of these agents has a different manager and then above them a different territory manager.

      That is important because while it may sound reasonable to the average person that these workers began targeting groups on their own, the IRS structure is designed to prevent that.

      Here is how that works.

      When an application for tax exempt status comes into the IRS, agents have 270 days to work through that application. If the application is not processed within those 270 days it automatically triggers flags in the system. When that happens, individual agents are required to input a status update on that individual case once a month, every month until the case is resolved.

      Keep in mind, at least 300 groups were targeted out of Cincinnati alone. Those applications spent anywhere from 18 months to nearly 3 years in the system and some still don’t have their non-profit status. 300 groups multiplied by at least 18 months for each group, means thousands of red flags would have been generated in the system.

      So who in the chain of command would have received all these flags? The answer, according to the IRS directory, one woman in Cincinnati, Cindy Thomas, the Program Manager of the Tax Exempt Division. Because all six of our IRS workers have different individual and territory managers, Cindy Thomas is one manager they all have common.

      It turns out Cindy Thomas’ name is one we have heard before. The independent journalism group ProPublica says in November of 2012 they had requested information on conservatives groups that had received non-profit status. Along with that information, the IRS released private information on nine conservative groups that had not yet been approved and personal information had not been redacted. The person who signed off on that release, Cindy Thomas.

      What this means for you… consider this chain of command since the story broke.

      Former Acting IRS Commissioner Steven Miller… retires

      Joseph Grant, Commissioner of Tax Exempt and Government Entities… retires.

      Lois Lerner, Head of Exempt Organization…says she will invoke her 5th amendment right to not incriminate herself when called before Congress on Wednesday.

      Holly Paz, Director of Exempt Organizations, subpoenaed to Washington to be interviewed by members of Congress.

      All of this IRS leadership, in Washington D.C.

      Then one level down is Cindy Thomas, the highest ranking employee in Cincinnati in this Tax Exempt and Government Entities Department that no one in Congress is talking to… yet.

      • 1539days says:
        May 21, 2013 at 8:42 pm

        270 days is 9 months. Any application that took longer (like all the Tea Party ones) would have counted against the efficiency of an IRS agent unless their supervisor approved.

  13. angienc (D) says:
    May 21, 2013 at 8:31 pm

    DWTS ********Spoiler Alert************************
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    Kellie’s sweetness was enough to overcome Derek Hough’s asshatty-ness (well, that plus the producer/judges manipulation together with the Ellen DeGeneres pimping). Kellie did very well but Zendaya was far, far better.

    • myiq2xu says:
      May 21, 2013 at 8:46 pm

      I guess I don’t need to bother watching after all.

      • angienc (D) says:
        May 21, 2013 at 8:54 pm

        BTW — when I say “producer manipulation” I mean it’s looking like the Obama WH over on DWTS — allegedly there was some sort of snafu with the online voting (which is how the VAST majority of Zendaya’s fans vote — being tweeners & teens) so DWTS threw *all* the online voting out!

        That really, really hurt Zendaya’s chances.

    • myiq2xu says:
      May 21, 2013 at 11:04 pm

      I was expecting Zendaya to win. When they announced it was Kellie I was shocked!

  14. myiq2xu says:
    May 21, 2013 at 8:40 pm
  15. myiq2xu says:
    May 21, 2013 at 9:05 pm
  20. HELENK says:
    May 21, 2013 at 11:55 pm

    http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/301207-senate-judiciary-committee-advances-immigration-reform-bill-with-13-5-vote

    senate committee advances immigration reform bill 13 -5 vote

    shumer’s 3 republicans were J Flake – L Graham – O Hatch

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