Live-blog: Senate Hearing on #IRS Targetting

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Streaming on C-Span 3

Just a quick & dirty post while klown is asleep.
Please comment on what you see/hear.

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106 Responses to Live-blog: Senate Hearing on #IRS Targetting

  1. votermom says:

    Max Baucus (D) finance cmte chair speech
    (He urged IRS to investigate Tea party btw)

  2. myiq2xu says:

    Thanbk you for posting this

  3. votermom says:

    Baucus already pre-blaming vague law wording for IRS actions.

  4. votermom says:

    Orrin Hatch (R) ranking member speechifying next.
    No Mr Nice Guy from him.

  5. votermom says:

    Witnesses sworn in

    Treasury IG Russell George reads statement

    • Lulu says:

      Some Tea party cases were approved but a very small number. I wonder where they were located and if they got private representative tax attorney letters in response after the IRS sent intrusive and bullying requests.

      • DeniseVB says:

        Good question. I want to see all the applications that were being processed during the target era. Surely there’s a paper trail 😉

  6. votermom says:

    Miller lying now.

  7. Lulu says:

    Q:You stopped and then you started again. Why? A: Languishing letters, workshops for Santa’s helpers, cleared out the easy ones, reassigned Hitler Jr who sent the letters, Wah!

  8. votermom says:

  9. Lulu says:

    Q:Why is the culture so crappy? How did this happen?
    A:I have no idea. I have been gone six months and I bleached my brain.
    Q: We asked you about this (Mormon word for shit) and sent you letters and your response was (Mormon word for shit). Why did Lerner hide this stuff. Why haven’t you corrected your testimony?
    A: The facts leaked after I blew town.

  10. Lulu says:

    Good IRS customer service is if they decide not to set you on fire or do donuts in their cars in your front yard.

  11. Mary says:

    Frankly, I’d rather hear testimony from the “little people” in the IRS. But yes, this is fascinating watching the upper weenies squirm and lie.

  12. Lulu says:

    If management is so crappy why do they get Presidential level approved mega-bonuses? Are they so bad they’re good?

  13. Lulu says:

    IG, the locals asked and asked and no reply for a year. Finally got something from Lehner and then did something weird anyway. Or that is what they told me anyways.

    • Lulu says:

      I think this IG is an honest person but I’m not sure he digs too deep. He may not have enough resources.

  14. votermom says:

    Grassley brings up the pro-Life group.
    Miller knows nothing again.

  15. votermom says:

    Miller claims credit for the planted question that exposed scandal.
    Says it was “an incredibly bad idea.”
    They must really have paid this guy a bundle to be the scapegoat.

    • swanspirit says:

      He gets to retire 3 weeks early , and gets full retirement , and who knows what the perks down the road might be , yachts , villas in the South of France next door to Mika , who knows

  16. Lulu says:

    Preacher Nelson up. Let’s read the actual statute. No direct politics allowed this says. How can the IRS allow all these political campaign expenditures. Finally Miller remembers something. But it is wrong. LOL.

  17. swanspirit says:

    Sen Nelson , these groups were breaking the law and why didn’t you stop them ? Miller has to explain the law to him

  18. votermom says:

  19. swanspirit says:

    . MoveOn.org Civic Action is a 501(c)(4) nonprofit corporation, why doesn’t someone STOP THEM?

  20. votermom says:

    Pat Roberts compared the IRS witnesses to a kid who did wrong closing their eyes hoping no one sees them

  21. votermom says:

  22. Lulu says:

    My air conditioner service guy who looks like a young Erik Estrada is here. I am very distracted. What hearings?

  23. votermom says:

  24. votermom says:

    ot

    • votermom says:

      picked up by pathetico
      http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2013/05/sharyl-attkissons-computers-compromised-164456.html
      Sharyl Attkisson, the Emmy-award winning CBS News investigative reporter, says that her personal and work computers have been compromised and are under investigation.

      “I can confirm that an intrusion of my computers has been under some investigation on my end for some months but I’m not prepared to make an allegation against a specific entity today as I’ve been patient and methodical about this matter,” Attkisson told POLITICO on Tuesday. “I need to check with my attorney and CBS to get their recommendations on info we make public.”

      In an earlier interview with WPHT Philadelphia, Attkisson said that though she did not know the full details of the intrustion, “there could be some relationship between these things and what’s happened to James [Rosen],” the Fox News reporter who became the subject of a Justice Dept. investigation after reporting on CIA intelligence about North Korea in 2009.

      On Sunday, The Washington Post reported that the Justice Dept. had searched Rosen’s personal e-mails and tracked his visits to the State Dept. The court affadavit described Rosen as “at the very least, either as an aider, abettor and/or co-conspirator” of his government source, presumably because he had solicited classified information from that source — an argument that has been heavily criticized by other journalists.

      Attkisson told WPHT that irregular activity on her computer was first identified in Feb. 2011, when she was reporting on the Fast and Furious gun-walking scandal and on the Obama administration’s green energy spending, which she said “the administration was very sensitive about.” Attkisson has also been a persistent investigator of the events surrounding last year’s attack in Benghazi, and its aftermath.

      • jeffhas says:

        ***THIS*** is the one…. if this is remotely true, it will cost heads to roll – and will go up the food chain in a dramatic fashion. There will be no hiding from this one.

        IMHO.

  25. Lulu says:

    Progressives love tax loopholes but they don’t want anyone else to get them.

  26. Lulu says:

    We have to process tax returns and we don’t have time for all of these stupid laws that Congress sends us. Wah.

  27. Mary says:

    Wyden’s fulla shit. It’s only cuz the law is too vague.

    Uh, no….the IRS treated progressive groups DIFFERENTLY, asshat.

  28. SHV says:

    From the small sample of targeted “Tea Party” orgs. that we know about, most seem to be small neighborhood groups, set up by women. Is there a IRS war on women??

    • Lulu says:

      Yes and from smaller towns and cities with presumably less resources. It was targeted to people who they thought could not fight back. Big outfits were dicked around but eventually got their status approved. Hicksville in booneyville did not.

      • Mary says:

        Ah…..the ole bitter clingers. Obama’s IRS heard the message, and went from there.

  29. votermom says:

    Hey, it’s Senator Underage Dominican Hookers turn to give the #IRS cover

    • swanspirit says:

      And he is giving it , along with Karl Rove

    • Mary says:

      Menendez wants to use “exclusively,” but not to include Move On.Org or Media Matters or any of the other progressive groups that are politically active. What a maroon!

  30. SHV says:

    Comment by the women targeted by IRS who was a POW.
    *******
    “As for Chiffelle, having her name mentioned as part of the IRS investigation has drawn more attention than she’s accustomed to but she seemed genuinely unperturbed.

    “Don’t cut me short,” Chiffelle said. “I was a prisoner of war in the Second World War. If the Japanese couldn’t kill me, no one else can. That’s my philosophy. If something is unfair, I will fight to the death…Nothing upsets me. But I’ll do something about it.”

  31. myiq2xu says:

    Shouldn’t that sign say “The Dishonorable Douglas Shulman?”

  32. swanspirit says:

    And now we have the Senator from MD , Ben Cardin who is skilled at tightrope talking

  33. votermom says:

  34. Lulu says:

    If this unit was such shit why the hell was the head of it promoted to Obamacare and financially awarded out the wazoo? This Senate hearing is nothing but talking points to cover their butts. These Dem senators were most of the ones asking for the grilling of the “Tea baggers”. Their hatred of them was palpable.

    • swanspirit says:

      It still is , conservatives aren’t human to them until a tornado hits them , and for some , like Daily Show creator Lizz Winstead couldn’t help herself. Winstead tweeted: “This tornado is in Oklahoma so clearly it has been ordered to only target conservatives.” & “How long has Obama known about this Tornado?” & “Tornado just bumped me from MSNBC.”
      not even then .

      • Lulu says:

        Well that is the way that most fascists think. If you aren’t one of them by birth or inclination you are sub-human.

  35. Mary says:

    No, Cardin, the ISSUE is whether those “standards” were equally applied to liberal and conservative groups.
    Idiot.

  36. votermom says:

    OT

  37. SHV says:

    I am not sure why the Repubs haven’t asked for a list of organizations that applied for tax exempt status and time to approval or denial. All that I’m seeing reported are anecdotes.

  38. foxyladi14 says:

    Thanks everyone. 🙂

  39. Lulu says:

    Obama’s Not Nixon, He’s Harding By John Dean
    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-05-20/obama-s-not-nixon-he-s-harding.html
    Broncobama isn’t as good at being bad as Nixon. He is just a plain old crook and thug.

    • SHV says:

      I think John Dean is full of shit giving Obama the “Harding” defense, ie too trusting and inattention.

      “Harding has been blamed for an illegal kickback scheme at the Veterans Bureau and the infamous Teapot Dome scandal that sent his secretary of interior, Albert Fall, to prison. In fact, Harding was involved in no wrongdoing whatsoever regarding these scandals. When Harding got the first whiffs of illicit activity, he was outraged and demanded answers. A trusting man, he took those involved at their word and proceeded to play his weekend golf games, and then took a trip to Alaska, on which he died. Because he had failed to take more decisive action, history has blamed him for scandals that developed after his death. Harding’s lack of action ruined his presidency.”

      Even a brief review of what little is really known about Obama reveals, at the minimum, that he is a really nasty piece of work, whose “inattention” is really an expertly developed strategy of letting others do the dirty work and take the blame.

  40. Lulu says:

    Senator Pinky asks the commish to apologize. He won’t. He didn’t do it. He is just a stooge. The IG said he did not do it so he is not responsible. I wonder if he will he repay his salary that he did not earn because he isn’t responsible for anything?

    Senator Pinky asks what else can IRS screw up?

  41. votermom says:

    Pat Toomey trying to redeem his reelection chances.

  42. votermom says:

  43. Mary says:

    OT: Remember that CNN poll about Obama’s approval numbers at 53% last Sunday?

    It was a D + 11 poll.

    Dems 33%
    GOP 22%
    Indy 35%

    No WONDER he polled so high. It was skewed to favor Democrats.

    • I think the uneven numbers are on purpose in order to get a sampling of views from people who more accurately reflect the population. There are a lot more registered Dems than Repubs, so splitting them 50-50 would not make sense. (A 50-50 dem/repub poll in TX would likely not accurately predict the views of most Texans). They also have to make random calls or else their results will be suspect. They dont seek out a certain number of dems, repubs, and independents. What they do is make as many calls as needed to get answers and when the number of self-identifying dems, repubs, and indies is reached they close the poll and tally the results.

      “As of 2010, Gallup polling found that 31% of Americans identified as Democrats (tying a 22-year low), 29% as Republicans, and 38% as independents.[3] By 2011 Gallup found that Americans identifying as independents had risen to 40 percent. Gallup’s historical data show that the proportion of independents in 2011 was the largest in 60 years. This increase came at the expense of Republican identification, which dropped to 27%, while Democratic identification held steady from 2011”

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_party_strength_in_U.S._states

  44. swanspirit says:

    O my Goddess the Baucus hisself

  45. Anthony says:

    So it was partisan?

  46. DeniseVB says:

    OT:

    OK Gov Fallin giving briefing on Fox now.

  47. myiq2xu says:

    Okay, I’m back.

    What did I miss?

  48. myiq2xu says:

    “There has definitely been an intrusion”

  49. HELENK says:

    some democrats Whitehouse, Boxer and Nye are blaming the Oklahoma tornadoes on global warming. Salon is blaming the sequester.
    since boxer in the senator in my state, I just sent this e-mail to her

    most Americans would be asking the people of Oklahoma ” how can we help you”. You and other democrats made a political issue out of a major catastrophe. You make me ashamed that I was ever a democrat. where is the democratic party that had morals and compassion? was that trashed in 2008 like my vote?

  50. votermom says:

    Tornado devastation pics

  51. foxyladi14 says:

    Awesome pictures Thanks Helen. 🙂

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