Thank Ghu It’s Friday Open Thread


I was blissfully in the arms of Morpheus when my mom woke be up by banging on my door with her cane.

I got my Social Security check!” she told me. “Get your lazy ass up and take me to Walmart!

So we went shopping. Now I’m back.

How is your day going?

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93 Responses to Thank Ghu It’s Friday Open Thread

  1. votermom says:

    You are a good son.
    (I’m assuming you didn’t leave her at Walmart)

    • Lulu says:

      Do you push her buggy? When I still had my dad around I had to do that because he ran over people.

      • wmcb says:

        My husband gets a running start with the cart, then steps up onto it and rides it coasting. He mostly does it in the parking lot, but every now and then he does it in the store if it’s not crowded.

      • myiq2xu says:

        She uses the cart like a walker and she points and tells me what and how many to get. I push my own cart (if I’m shopping too) then we check out together. I load and unload the car.

  2. votermom says:

  3. myiq2xu says:

    Is this a parody?

  4. HELENK says:

    michele bachmann took out two candidates

    and they thought she was stupid

  5. myiq2xu says:

    This is why I love Megyn Kelly:

    This is also one of the reasons why I am not a conservative Republican.

    • elliesmom says:

      I’m not a conservative Republican, either, but at some point women should stop and evaluate exactly what we’ve gained. It’s great that so many career fields have opened up for women. It’s wonderful we can control our reproductive functions. The more women in politics and upper management positions the better. But when you talk about workload on the home front, we still do the vast majority of it whether we work outside the home or not. We still are the primary childcare provider. And now 40% of us bring home most of the bacon. You have to wonder if women actually were the primary beneficiaries of the feminist movement. It’s too bad these guys had to clutter up the discussion with the phoney science because other than that, it’s a worthwhile conversation to have.

      • myiq2xu says:

        I love being unaffiliated. I feel no obligation to support or defend any particular candidate or issue.

        I am a Contrarian. I generally lean to the side that is out of power. When the GOP eventually regains control of Washington I’ll start cheering for the Democrats again.

        • wmcb says:

          Me, too! I reserve the right to trash anyone in either party, on my OWN timetable and of my own volition, thanks.

          Only political pawns have to worry over how what they say will affect their team or the other team’s strategy. Since I ain’t one no more, I am no longer required to give a fuck.

          It’s very freeing. I have no fucks to give. Simple!

      • myiq2xu says:

        You have to wonder if women actually were the primary beneficiaries of the feminist movement.

        We got free milk. What did you get?

        • elliesmom says:

          I’m still trying to figure that out. But I’m supposed to be satisfied with legal abortions and free birth control or I’m a racist. Elliesdad is a keeper, but we’re both retired and somehow the washer, the dryer, and the dishwasher are still mine. He “borrows” them occasionally. He just bought me a new lawn mower because the old one is too heavy for me to push these days. It would have been nicer to hire someone to mow the lawn if he doesn’t want to do it. But he honestly didn’t even think of that. Just walked into the house with a new electric mower and a big smile on his face. I got to go to engineering school 44 years ago on a great scholarship but then progress sort of got stopped in its tracks. I probably should have had a lot more sex before I got married so I could count that.

        • wmcb says:

          You can’t change primary hardwired human nature. Can you make it more equitable than it was 100 years ago? Sure you can! We have! But are you going to change the fact that, for the vast majority of men and women (especially once kids are born), Mom is going to have the urge and the motivation to be primary caregiver/nester, and Dad not so much? Nope.

          We are chasing fool’s gold and forever frustration if that’s our aim. I have watched young men and women grow up, many of them raised well by VERY conscious feminist parents, and go off to live their lives, have kids of their own. You know what happens? He tries. He’s not a bad guy, or an awful sexist, he tries. But he simply doesn’t SEE the things she sees, pick up on the stuff she picks up on, or respond the way she responds. He’s a GREAT dad. He helps out a lot. But he is not a woman. He’s wired to love his kids. To provide for them. And to care for them in many ways. He is not wired (I speak of most men, not all) to do the exact same daily minutiae of nurturing in the same way she would. So they talk. She tries to step back and wait for him to do stuff, which he honestly tries to do. But he DOESN’T FUCKING SEE IT. He thinks the baby is fine, and the kitchen sink looks clean to him. So she can stand there and wring her hands, or step back in to do what she sees needs doing. And whichever she does, she can then be mad at him for it, or not.

          We don’t need to go back to very rigid gender roles – not at ALL. But we do need to stop banging our heads against an evolutionary wall. and tearing ourselves apart and blaming each other and ourselves over very natural differences. And maybe, especially if we choose to have babies, we need to realize that with that choice comes some inevitable inequities, that switch sides at random.

          Not because “society” needs to change, or he needs educating, or she needs to feel guilty for “doing too much” and “assert herself”, but because we evolved that way. And all of modern history is but a tiny blip on the evolutionary scale. It’s the height of hubris to assume we can wipe out that programming and overhaul the whole hardwired shebang entirely, in a mere gnat’s fart of a few hundred years. Arrogant madness.

          Again, I’m NOT saying be a rigid slave to evolutionary gender roles, get ye back to the kitchen. Nope. I’m saying recognize that they exist on a very deep level, and stop getting so damn agitated over them. Work with them, and work around them when needed. And be a little more kind to one another.

        • elliesmom says:

          But while women haven’t given up their nurturing roles, many men have declined to provide for their families. I think on balance there has been a net loss for women who want to have children.

        • myiq2xu says:

          We need to be consistent.

          Lots of people would agree with the idea that domestic violence laws should recognize that men tend to be bigger and stronger than women, and his violence is worse than her violence. But they would object if employment law made gender distinctions.

          “Equal” does not mean “identical”. Men and women are not the same. That does not mean they should not be treated equally.

      • I tend to agree with you, so let’s have that discussion. The feminist movement to me seems to have resulted in a large net gain for men. It’s like it’s the patriarchy-branded way to dupe women.

        That said, women don’t have to take it. When they are the primary breadwinners & choose to continue the traditional division of labor inside the home, they have no one to blame but themselves.

        I know this first hand. I’ve had to fight it myself. I have to go on strike at least once a year to remind my 1950s loving husband and child that it’s not my responsibility to do everything, and I work just as hard as they do. OUTSIDE the home. They “get it” as soon as the groceries run out and then everything runs smoother for several months. But it has to be repeated and repeated, because they are just unwilling to learn it permanently. But I do it, despite the distension is sews, because I am not a workhorse and I am liberated.

        If more women were willing to hold their families accountable instead of rolling over and playing the martyr, the better of we’d be. If more of them would do as you suggest and stop and evaluate what they gained and lost, we’d be better off. But they don’t, and part of why they don’t is because feminists keep telling them they have it all, and media keeps telling them if they wear Victoria Secret while they do the dishes, they are cool. Women have got to start thinking for themselves.

        • wmcb says:

          Yep. And if, especially when babies are small, she is more naturally inclined to do more child care, then there needs to be a trade. Not forcing her into his role, or her into his, but demanding that he take up that slack in OTHER areas.

          That’s what I meant by “work around those gender roles if need be”. It’s a fool’s errand to try to eradicate them entirely by some mysterious psycholocical alchemy. But you can damn sure trade some chores to even the load.

          I think a big part of the problem is that a man’s world is not that difficult to conquer, and women have done a good job of it. Because a man’s world is based on doing X tasks. Fuck, that’s easy. A lot of what has traditionally and evolutionarily been a woman’s role is a bit more intuitive, a little harder to pin down to a list. So we have gotten good at doing both their job and ours, but they still suck wind at our job. I’m not sure all of that is just because they are selfish gits. I think part of it is they don’t perceive the way we perceive.

          Perhaps if the feminist movement had come about at a time in history when men’s roles were still more intuitive on their end, we’d have had that same difficulty doing their jobs as well. Like, stalking tigers and throwing rocks and facing down random dangers and stuff. The stuff that *their* hormones and evolution uniquely equipped them to do better than us.

          I guess my point is that it’s not as simple and cut-and-dried and easy peasy to solve as we keep being told. Lying to us with the whole “you can have it all at the same time” isn’t helping us. And a relationship/marriage is NOT the fucking same thing as a public or job function/role. There’s more involved and hormonal cues all over the damn place.

          And please for Gawd’s sake, no one start thinking I am saying every word of this applies to every single man and every single woman down to the last details. I am well aware I’m grossly generalizing. I’m just thinking out loud here.

        • elliesmom says:

          I’m not a martyr. Just as wmcb says, things have to matter equally for “going on strike” to work. If your family is OK with getting their clothes out of the dryer in the morning instead of folding down the wash and putting it away, are content with picking up takeout on the way home, and don’t care if the house is a mess because they aren’t inviting their friends over this week, it’s an uphill battle that some days isn’t worth fighting. πŸ˜‰ I think the self-reflection needs to be over more than who does the wash. I love my kids and wouldn’t trade motherhood for being the CEO of a major corp, and I recognize I made a conscious decision to give up being a CEO because I have never bought into both parents “can have it all”. But couples should be able to decide how to allocate their personal resources, and workplaces should be a lot more family friendly. And some women have been able to find someone who is willing to swap or share traditional roles. But for most of the 40% of the women who are the primary breadwinners that isn’t the case. The hookup generation is already rethinking the sexually empowered thing, but deliberate single motherhood continues to be on the rise. My niece says it’s because guys have become such jerks, and I tell her guys have become jerks because women have let them.

        • WMCB, I really wonder if it is so easy to conquer the man’s world. If it was, we’d have a lot more women in the military and construction, for example, than we do. A lot of women are whinny-assed titty babies themselves. They want to work outside the home and get all the credit that men do, but they reserve their priorities for teaching, or office work, which are not remotely as hard on the body as some of the professions men are dominant in. Even with nursing, which is hard work, it’s still drawing blood and wiping asses. But they would rather do that than be willing to unflinchingly cut into living human flesh and fix an artery or remove an appendix. What’s up with that?

          The older I get the more I suspect it’s women ourselves holding us back as opposed to me. We could do a lot better. We, as a group gender, often choose not to.

        • I hope you didn’t infer I was calling you a martyr, EM. That wasn’t my intention. For me, going on strike is a necessity, because having a clean, smooth running house is part of my mental health requirement. Maybe it’s because I spent 3 years in a Catholic boarding school for delinquent girls, and they got into my head. Whatever the reason, I like a clean house and I should have it. It doesn’t have to be perfect or perfectly decluttered, but it does have to be reasonably clean,. and not by all my own doing.

          That said, while I agree with you that women need to think a lot about how far they’ve come, I do think a lot of their resentment centers around only have sex mores change, and not living standard values.

        • yttik says:

          I agree, wcmb. I think how men and women perceive the world is just different. When I’m working, I simply can’t do housework. Hubby just looks baffled and he’s like, “well don’t do it then.” Well somebody has to do it! And he’s like, “why?” But the flip side of that is who does he whine to first if there’s nothing to eat in the fridge, no clean towels? It’s taken me a while to figure out, but he’s not actually criticizing me, he’s genuinely baffled when confronted by an empty fridge. How come there’s no food in here?? He can’t even register cause and effect. I’ve spent a lifetime trying to explain to him why we should make the bed, since we’re just going to get back in it. He just does not get it.

          However, while he personally may not be expecting me to do it all or even understand why it should be done at all, our culture does, our neighbors do. Nobody comes over to somebody’s house and looks at the men there and wonders why the place is such a disaster. So women aren’t just crazy, we’re responding to multiple social pressures.

        • myiq2xu says:

          If you have two people living together, the joint sanitation level will be determined by the “Felix” partner. That’s because “Oscar” will tolerate things that Felix won’t.

          The problem is whether Felix can get Oscar to share the sanitation burden or will have to do it him/herself.

        • wmcb says:

          I agree, for the most part, yttik. I’m not poo-pooing or saying social pressures that are unfair don’t exist. Of course they do! I think what I am saying is that the problem needs to be approached from many angles, not just the victim/oppressor paradigm that the Left is so damn attached to as THE one-size-fits-all solution to any and every problem presented to them. The fact that victims and oppressors DO exist in this world makes it very easy for them to do that, but it’s the insistence on that overlay, and that overlay alone, for everything, that creates a problem. The ability to decide from on high who gets to be victim, who gets named oppressor is a sick and heady kind of power, and they have been drunk on it for a long damn time. Largely to the detriment of so many “victims” they purport to care about (and perhaps once did.)

          I’m saying that dealing with a living breathing relationship does not lend itself to the same solutions of “treat us exactly the same, interchangeably” that work quite well in a genderless workplace. Most people simply cannot BE genderless in a marriage, with children. Ain’t gonna happen.

          More fairness does not necessarily mean sameness, especially not at home. And I think women (and men) are being sold a bill of goods that some genderless perfectly balanced limbo is possible in marriage, other than at the moments when one is actually having sex. That’s just bullshit. It doesn’t work that way, and never will.

          Think. Explore. Trust your own gut. Talk to each other. Put down the easy collective slogans. Find new angles. Maybe we’ll get somewhere, and off this PC treadmill. Maybe somewhere powerful. I hope.

    • angienc (D) says:

      Eric Erickson is a SOCIAL conservative and a general moron of the Akin stripe.
      It really is unfair to compare him to other Republicans (even ones who ID as “conservative).

      • wmcb says:

        All the newfangled up and coming conservatarians got disgusted with him when he went hypocritical and supported Mark Sanford after all his morality bloviating. Very few of the influential con bloggers, radio people, etc these days are at all like him.

      • DeniseVB says:

        RedState was the first conservative blog I thought about signing up for to comment on. I just didn’t like he required all his commenters to sign up pinkie swearing we were pro-life or we weren’t welcomed there. So I didn’t. Just thought that was creepy. So Akin-type, exactly.

      • His analogy isn’t even very useful considering in 90% of the animal world, males impregnate females and then leave. He’d have been better off arguing that we are devolving into an animal state.

    • yttik says:

      “This is also one of the reasons why I am not a conservative Republican…”

      Yes, but then I look at Sarah Palin, Jan Brewer, Nikki Haley, and think well, perhaps I really am, because I sure as hell have nothing in common with people like Sandra Fluke, Nancy Pelosi, etc.

      This is mean, but what some people call “conservative Republican” is just plain old stupid man syndrome. LOL, he’s not speaking from political ideology, he’s being a dickhead. We’ve all heard the crap progressive men spew and they aren’t rabid right wingers, they’re just jerks.

      • DeniseVB says:

        My favorite commercial from the late 20th century. Who knew a perfume was the answer πŸ˜€

      • elliesmom says:

        I look at this way – if society supported your going to work everyday, coming home tired, having someone there who has cooked your dinner, washed your socks, taken care of your children, and was willing to have sex with you even if your spare tire has moved from the trunk to your waistline, would you be eager to give that up? Of course not. And if you don’t care if that’s the only “job” your wife has and she’s the one who wants a “career”, why that’s her problem, right? Men aren’t stupid.

        • yttik says:

          “Men aren’t stupid…”

          LOL, well I disagree and I have binders of evidence!

        • DeniseVB says:

          I guess why I’ll be “married” 44 years next month. Too lazy to find a career πŸ™‚ Like any LLC, it’s hard work. I made that deal with hubby in ’69, he makes the money, I spend it and babysit and clean. We live comfortably and have enough. Happy!

        • elliesmom says:

          Elliesdad and I will celebrate 40 years next month. I’ve had a couple of different careers, spent time at home when that’s what worked best for us, and made sacrifices to support his career so I could have more of his money. It’s been a partnership, anf if you ask him if he has done his share of the work at home over the years, I’m sure he believes he has. A couple of years ago we were both working ourselves to death, and we made the decision together that I would retire and pick up the slack at home because financially it would be better long term. Now that he’s retired too, I am having a tough time giving him back the stuff he used to do when we both had jobs. He’s enjoying not having to get up every morning and head off to work, but it’s time for his “vacation” to end. lol

    • insanelysane says:

      Hire it out. Why dither over it?

      Best thing we ever did for our marriage!

    • HELENK says:

      when I was working , my husband worked daylight and I worked either 2nd or 3rd shift. this way one of us was home with the kids and we only needed a babysitter for 1 hour a day. Many women that I worked with did the same thing.
      The kids got both parents, we did not pay for babysitters and it worked out for us. My kids felt close enough to both of us that they would go to either one with a problem.
      People tend to forget there is a big world out there that is not 9 to 5 with weekends off.

  6. votermom says:

  7. HELENK says:

    caretakers for wounded warriors at walter reed receive furlough notices.

    meeeshele will be spending the summer at the vineyard, with backtrack flying up on weekends.

    love the priority

  8. HELENK says:

    the weekend will start off with an asteroid that brings it own moon flyby

    • Damn, that’s a hard call, but I think Wiener wins it for hubris alone. Love the name of that blog. Not the suckers on parade, but Diogenes Middle Finger. Hilarious!

  9. HELENK says:

    the caption says the eagle and the swan. I see a face and an owl. what do you see?

  10. So far so good. Got my hair cut and went grocery shopping. Now I’m making braided bread for the first time ever. It’s cheddar-beer bread, and called for 1/2 a cup of flat beer. so of course I started drinking early. Why let the rest of the bottle go to waste?

  11. HELENK says:

    twisters on the ground again in OKLA. near Okla city and Moore. big one with multiple spouts. On fox news now

  12. HELENK says:

    just got taste of home magazine saw this and thought of all here that grill. sounds good to me

    mushroom stuffed cheeseburgers

    2 finely chopped bacon strips
    2 cups chopped mushrooms
    1/4 cup chopped onion
    1/4 cup chopped red pepper
    1/4 cup chopped green pepper
    2lbs ground beef
    2 tbsp steak sauce
    1/4 tsp seasoned salt
    4 slices provolone cheese halved
    8 kaiser rolls splt

    cook and stir bacon until crisp. remove from pan
    cook and stir mushrooms, onions and peppers in bacon drippings
    remove and cool add in bacon
    in large bowl combine beef, steak sauce, seasoned salt.

    shape beef mixture into 16 thin patties
    top 8 of the patties with cheese folding over cheese to fit within 3/4 in of edge
    spread with mushroom mixture
    top with remaining patties. pressing edges to enclose fillings
    grill stuffed burgers uncovered over medium heat 5-6 minutes on each side
    serve on rolls

    since there will be a lot of summer cook outs I though you would like this

  13. myiq2xu says:

    I don’t see anything offensive here. Do you?

    One of the bad things about the internet is gives a platform to idiots.

  14. I cannot believe I made this bread. I have never made bread outside a bread machine and that crusty no-knead loaf. It’s not perfect, but for a first try at a braided bread loaf, I think it’s pretty good.

    Braided bread

    I can’t wait to try again!

    • HELENK says:

      looks really good

    • wmcb says:


    • Erica says:

      That looks really good. Is there cheese in the crust?

      • Yes. The recipe is for cheddar-beer bread. All I had was Sierra Nevada Celebration Ale and some Trader Joe’s cheddar-gruyere mΓ©lange. The cheese had a coupla spots of mold, so I had to use it before it went bad. Turned out PERFECT! Love it.

        • Lulu says:

          It looks really great. You may have a talent of which you were not aware. All I can make is cornbread and biscuits. And shortbread.

        • I’m finding I really love making bread, and am pretty good at it. I’m pretty good at cooking in general. Plants & food are two things that never seems to fail me. If only I had lived in a different time, when bread and farming were more important…

  15. HELENK says:

    IRS tells congress to go to hell. has there ever been a time in US history where so many government agencies refuse to answer Congress?

  16. foxyladi14 says:

    Hubby and I always got along he made the money, I spent it πŸ™‚

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