Hormones Do Not Cause Rape


Open mouth, insert foot:

Chambliss blames military rapes on ‘the hormone level created by nature’

Sen. Saxby Chambliss (R-GA) on Tuesday suggested that the “hormone level created by nature” was to blame for rapes in the military and that all pregnant servicewomen should be investigated to make sure their condition was the result of consensual sex.

At a Senate Armed Services Committee hearing on sexual assaults within the military, Chambliss opined that the Pentagon’s decision to allow women in combat roles was only going to make the problem worse.

The Georgia Republican recalled that “several years ago when we had the first females go out on an aircraft carrier, when they returned to port, a significant percentage of those females were pregnant.”

[…]

Chambliss noted that Democratic proposals to modify the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) and take sexual assault reporting outside of the victim’s chain of command might not work because young servicemen were being driven by their “nature.”

“The young folks coming in to each of your services are anywhere from 17 to 22 or 23,” he pointed out. “Gee-whiz, the hormone level created by nature sets in place the possibility for these types of things to occur. So, we’ve got to be very careful on our side.”

{{headdesk}}

Did the Republicans learn nothing from Todd Akin? If you are a male politician, there are two things you should never discuss in public: rape and female biology. Just don’t do it.

This is especially true if you are a Republican.

Hormones do not cause rape. Men can control their sexual urges. If they can’t, they are sexual predators and need to be locked up.

The military justice system is in bad need of reform. Everything from minor disciplinary offenses to major crimes are processed through the chain of command. One thing we should have learned by now that internal investigations and discipline simply do not work.

Make the Military Police, Criminal Investigations Units and JAG Corps independent. Minor offenses can still be referred back to unit commanders. Serious offenses should be referred directly to the Judge Advocate General (JAG) office where cases would be processed similar to civilian courts.

But stopping sexual assault in the military will require changing the “boys will be boys” mentality that still persists despite numerous cases and regular scandals every few years.

The mentality should be “Boys will behave, or else!” Zero tolerance for sexual assault or harassment.


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122 Responses to Hormones Do Not Cause Rape

  1. myiq2xu says:

    Military commanders have a tendency to want to sweep things under the rug or simply kick offenders out of the service.

    Rapists need to go to prison.

  2. 49erDweet says:

    Are we certain the rise on military sexual assault cases isn’t due to the provocative combat gear some of the victims have been wearing?

  3. angienc (D) says:

    Well the MSM is happy — now they can stop covering the Obama scandals (which they never wanted to do in the first place) & focus on this idiot’s bullshit (and of course, unlike Obama who doesn’t know about & isn’t responsible in any part of the executive branch, every member of the GOP is 100% responsible for what one senile Republican says).

  4. myiq2xu says:

    GMTA:

    Meanwhile, Democratic Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand of New York has also introduced legislation (“The Military Justice Improvement Act of 2013”) that would sweep more broadly, changing how the military handles all serious military crimes.

    Gillibrand’s proposal would let military prosecutors — rather than commanders — decide whether to bring serious military crimes to trial. She argues, “What we need is a military with a fair and impartial criminal justice system, one that is run by professional and legal experts, not unit commanders.”

    Currently, the commanding officer of a military unit has broad and largely unfettered authority over the military justice system. He or she is the so-called “convening authority” who has the power to press charges, to decide whether the charges will be heard before a special or general court martial, to appoint the members of the court-martial jury that will hear the case, and the appellate power to review and reverse convictions or reduce sentences. It is a power that has no parallel in the civilian courts.

    The proposed Military Justice Improvement Act would change all that by reining in the unrestrained authority of the commanding officers. The proposed law would take any offense punishable by one or more years in confinement out of the chain of command except for charges directly related to the military (e.g., absence without leave and disobeying orders).

    Instead, experienced military lawyers known as judge advocate generals (JAG officers) would determine if the case required a special or general court-martial. The bill would also prohibit the convening authority from overturning a guilty conviction or changing a conviction to a lesser offense and would require written justification for any changes, presumably another task that would be undertaken by a staff judge advocate.

    Military lawyers would perform a critical role under the military justice system envisioned in Senator Gillibrand’s bill. It is a role they are well prepared and trained to undertake. The Judge Advocate General Corps of the armed services, numbering over 5,000, is an extraordinary corps of talented and well-trained attorneys. The Army JAG’s motto of “Soldier first, lawyer always” captures the essence of the unique blend of legal skills and military training within the military command hierarchy.

    Gillibrand’s proposal makes more sense than Speir’s call for creation of a special sex crimes court. Although the immediate crisis is attributable to the Pentagon’s continuing blind eye toward sexual abuse/harassment of women in the military, any changes to the military justice system should not treat sex offenses separately.

    Under Gillibrand’s proposal, charges directly related to good order and discipline in the military (such as AWOL, disobeying an order, desertion, missing movement, conduct unbecoming an officer, and so on) would properly remain in the chain of command and subject to the commanding officer’s direct jurisdiction. The commanding officer would continue to exercise Article 15 non-judicial punishment and authority to send cases to summary courts martial. This would preserve a fundamentally important element of the commanding officer’s operational authority.

    This explains in much more detail what I was thinking.

    • elliesmom says:

      Rapes and other sexual assaults often happen when groups of men are in situations where they feel compelled to display bravado, and when they outnumber the women around them. Like in the military, at fraternity parties, on sports trips. Punishing them for it is close to punishing them for the behavior they’ve been encouraged to display. Which is why the group doing the encouraging – their military commanders, their coaches, the school’s disciplinary “court” need to be distanced from the trial and punishment of any crimes that may have been committed by the groups they oversee. As I’ve said before, I attended what was virtually still an all-male the college. The school was scrupulous about protecting its first coeds because if anything happened to one of us it would have been a PR nightmare, but other young women who happened onto campus not so much. And I never heard of any of the young men involved ever being told to do more than “zip it up”.

  5. Lulu says:

    I notice the Lame Ass Media isn’t covering Congresscreep McDermott’s foot in mouth special event during yesterday’s hearing in which he blamed the entire IRS scandal on the Tea party for daring to file for special tax status reserved for progressive and elite political groups. Not a fucking peep out of the media about that. Saxby Chambliss is a stupid as a post. McDermott is vicious elitist. The selective outrage is so obvious. Another bait and switch from the media thralls.

    • Mary says:

      On the other hand, MSNBC’s Lawrence ODonnell said on his show last night that the witnesses at that hearing should be charged with perjury. (see video at RCP)

      His dumb listeners, who probably didn’t watch the actual hearings, won’t have a clue how crazy and misleading O’Donnell is.

  6. Lulu – I don’t have cable and iirc, CBS Evening News covered it last night. I didn’t watch NBC Nightly, but a local recap of the Nightly News later in the evening did mention it. Slightly.

    • Lulu says:

      Good. It is better than nothing I suppose. It’s funny that I have cable (hubby must have sports and movies) but I refuse to watch TV news.

  7. BREAKING NEWS Wednesday, June 5, 2013 7:06 AM EDT
    Tom Donilon to Resign as Obama’s National Security Adviser
    In a major shakeup of President Obama’s foreign-policy inner circle, Tom Donilon, the national security adviser, is resigning and will be replaced by Susan E. Rice, the American ambassador to the United Nations, White House officials said on Tuesday.
    The appointment, which Mr. Obama plans to make on Wednesday afternoon, puts Ms. Rice, 48, an outspoken diplomat and a close political ally, at the heart of the administration’s foreign-policy apparatus.
    It is also a defiant gesture to Republicans who harshly criticized Ms. Rice for presenting an erroneous account of the deadly attacks on the American mission in Benghazi, Libya. The post of national security adviser, while powerful, does not require Senate confirmation.
    A central member of Mr. Obama’s foreign-policy team since he first took office, Mr. Donilon, 58, has exerted sweeping influence, mostly behind the scenes, on issues from counterterrorism to the reorientation of America to Asia from the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.
    READ MORE »
    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/06/us/politics/tom-donilon-to-resign-as-national-security-adviser.html?emc=na

    • Lulu says:

      Is something bad about to come out about Donilon. Benghazi perhaps? Why now?

      • Constance says:

        Or possibly he just didn’t fit in with the rest of the Obots, not being under fire for lying, deceitful behavior.

    • votermom says:

    • Constance says:

      This is also a defiant gesture to the American People. Rice lied to the American People to prop up the Obama administrations power.

    • angienc (D) says:

      Why the eff not? Rice did what she was asked — went out on all 5 Sunday shows & knowingly lied with a straight face, contradicting (and embarrassing) the Lybian Pres. in the process, and then kept her mouth shut about the “talking points” afterwards. No one can be surprised that a corrupt thug like Obama rewards her.

      • Mary says:

        This way, he keeps her close, and Congress can’t ask her any more questions due to executive privilege. She also doesn’t need Senate confirmation—thus, no questioning in a confirmation hearing.

        Method to his madness. Despicable, yes–but there’s a reason.

        • driguana says:

          Many of my prog friends point out what a “brilliant” move this is on Obama’s part and what a an absolutely brilliant “politician” he is. If one considers these moves evil, then yes, he is brilliant. Personally, I find it all immensely disgusting.

        • Mary says:

          Agree completely. But you can see what he’s doing, and why.

          I think he liked waving his figurative middle finger at everybody, too.

        • angienc (D) says:

          Yes, driguana, it is disgusting & people applauding this thug move are corrupt morons themselves in the “end justifies the means” way.
          And yes Mary — he *loves* giving everyone the figurative middle finger because that’s the kind of classless thug that he is. But we knew that already too after watching him during the 2008 primary.

      • votermom says:

        • driguana says:

          oh, and Fast and furious….that’s the whole strategy….delay, bob and weave, don’t say anything, don’t take any responsibility for anything and reward those who shuck and jive in accordance.

    • votermom says:

      Carville
      http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2013/06/05/carville_obamas_choice_of_susan_rice_for_national_security_adviser_an_in_your_face_appointment.html

      JAMES CARVILLE: “My guess is that he wanted her to be Secretary of State and he felt like she kind of got railroaded there and this is kind of in your face appointment, but he obviously thinks a great deal of Ambassador Rice. Like I say, he wanted her to be Secretary of State. She’s not confirmable and it’s like a message that he’s going to stick by. He views her as a competent person and probably as a friend of his. You know, I think it’s an in your face appointment and he feels good about making it.

      • HELENK says:

        wow James Carville and Karl Rove agree on something. it is an in your face appointment

  8. Oh good God – Samantha Power will be replacing Rice.

  9. driguana says:

    Even more pathetic! This administration is now officially beyond despicable…and at least half of America is sound asleep….I think we have now crossed over into a very dangerous area with the mainstream media…as they will, of course, gloat over the new appointments of Rice and Powers.

  10. yttik says:

    “.. So, we’ve got to be very careful on our side.”

    What does he mean by OUR side? Are female members of the military not on our side? Does “our side” refer to hormonally challenged old men in congress? The good old boys club? What is this “our side?”

    Rape is not caused by hormones, but it certainly is caused by poor leadership. You have an epic failure of leadership if members of your own team are becoming casualties of deliberate, not so friendly fire.

  11. votermom says:

    Rubio threatening not to vote for his own bill. LOL

    • Constance says:

      Well good because I know many citizen college graduates who can’t find jobs and something like 30% of our citizens don’t graduate from High School which makes for a huge unskilled labor pool. I see no reason why the USA needs to import any sort of labor when our citizens have high unemployment. The USA has serious problems and our citizens have serious problems so why is congress putting the needs of illegal immigrants at the top of the priority list?

    • Mary says:

      Word is, they don’t even have the votes in the Senate to pass it, let alone in the House.

  12. DeniseVB says:

    Chambliss is an idiot, but McDermott (“tea party asked for it”) is just as bad, maybe worse….and you know what’s even worse, a lot of voters will agree with both of them. So we’re stuck with stupid.

    I’m the “result” of a “fraternization” case back in the late 40’s, my dad’s punishment ….. to marry my mother 😉 True story.

  13. votermom says:

    Speaking of rape
    http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2013/06/04/police-investigating-rape-that-happened-inside-montgomery-county-high-school/

    PHILADELPHIA (CBS) — Sources tell Eyewitness News that the Montgomery County District Attorney’s Office is investigating an alleged rape that occurred inside of Wissahickon High School.

    We’re told a 16-year-old student allegedly sexually assaulted a 15-year-old classmate at 2 p.m. inside a school auditorium on April 29th.

    Sources say the victim reported the incident and was immediately brought to the school nurse, and then taken to Abington Memorial Hospital, where she was treated.

    Wissahickon High School officials did send a short phone alert to parents two days after the incident, which parents tell us stated an incident had occurred and police were involved.

    ONE MONTH LATER THE SCHOOL FINALLY TELLS SCHOOL PARENTS THAT THERE WAS AN ASSAULT IN THE SCHOOL.

    WTH.

    The girls parents say she was so badly injured she needed surgery.

    As far as I know this is a “nice” school district, mainly white (16 miles north of Philly)

  14. driguana says:

    And Rice will now have this at her disposal…
    http://rt.com/news/utah-data-center-spy-789/

  15. wmcb says:

    Oh, Gawd, when will these morons learn to just shut up.

    • votermom says:

    • Lulu says:

      Wow. So that is why she wears sleeveless. Nothing is long is enough.

    • DeniseVB says:

      I’m impressed, I’ve never seen muscular bingo wings before 😀

      Even the leftys think that was a staged heckler. At first thought MO may have a touch of peri-menopause (as in “i’m menopostal and have a gun, any questions?’) But this was a fundraiser hosted by a lesbian couple, heckler paid big bucks to get in the door (or did she). Her message was clear, pool report would have picked it up and it would have made news that way (FLOTUS heckled, Oh My). It’s just MO’s response was so, so …… Un-Princess like. That’s what made the news, Crankypants Michelle.

  16. votermom says:

    IRS ignores Senate’s deadline on turning over docs

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  19. votermom says:

    Huh. AQ offers new conspiracy theory

  20. HELENK says:

    got this from a commenter at No Quarter

    http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/55679#.Ua6ZzjQZhQw.twitter

    Soros and the IRS scandal

  21. votermom says:

    • HELENK says:

      —apologies to Shelton Brooks and “The Darktown Strutters Ball“
      I’ll come down on your tax-exempt status, honey
      Better be ready for questions galore
      There’s nothing you can ignore—
      I want to know just what your members are prayin’
      And, if ever you get through this honey
      You’re gonna hit the audit wall
      I’ll make you dance out of both your shoes
      With inquiries you can’t refuse
      For the next two years at the IRS examiners’ ball!

  22. HELENK says:

    http://www.politico.com/story/2013/06/leon-panetta-seal-leak-92263.html

    panetta and his diarrhea of the mouth about the Navy SEALS

  23. Lulu says:

    The Bot hipsters are finding out that Broncobama-care is not what they thought. It was supposed to stick it to the rich and mom and dad. It does but it sticks it to the young creative class too. But it may be their moral duty to like it.
    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/06/04/obamacare-rate-shock-how-big-is-it-does-it-matter.html

  24. HELENK says:

    http://weaselzippers.us/2013/06/05/poll-56-view-federal-government-as-threat-to-individual-rights-only-30-think-its-a-protector/

    56% view federal government as a threat to individual rights only 30% think its a protector

    I am in the majority. that is one of the saddest statement I have ever made about my country

  25. wmcb says:

    Even apart from the corruption and venality of the Obama admin, I am getting pretty frustrated with a complete waste and clueless lack of accountability that occurs even with mundane stuff, no matter who is in office. I used to laugh at the small govt proponents, but it’s reached the point where that view is looking more reasonable. I commented this on facebook today:

    I sometimes look at govt like overstuffed garages and closets. If you are one of those people who can have tons of stuff and still keep it all organized, know where everything is, then good for you. For those who can’t, then the best solution is a judicious purge – get rid of a lot of it.

    My govt more and more appears like an overstuffed house, where no one knows where the fuck anything is, so they go buy a 5th screwdriver, then lose that one as well. I’d love for them to get their act together. But if they demonstrably can’t (and they keep proving that daily), then I’m going to start solidly coming down on the side of “OK, start getting rid of shit until the shit is at a level you can manage.”

    • wmcb says:

      So I guess my approach to govt isn’t “tear down the house” (as cons and libertarians and others are so often accused of), but it most certainly is “You people are out of control with the ziplock bags and stuff is falling on our heads from the closet shelves. Some downsizing is in order.”

      My govt needs to go on an episode of Hoarders, for an intervention. 😀

    • I really love this analogy — thanks. I will be using it a lot!

      • HELENK says:

        agreed

      • wmcb says:

        Yeah, and if you’ve ever lived with a packrat, the squealing about DOOM when you try to downsize is similar: “But…but…I NEEEEED 300 random screws and 57 old teeshirts!” No, no you don’t. I promise, you can cut the grass and paint just fine with only 8 or 10 old holey teeshirts in stock.

    • votermom says:

      Yup, time to declutter govt

    • DeniseVB says:

      Sure seems like the entire Congress is living at my house 😀 Love the analogy.

      Probably why I’m enjoying the young Wacko Birds and the Tea Party so much these days, not only are they taking on the duopoly party, but want to pare down the excesses that benefit none of us. Sarah was shut down because of her successes with the crony capitalism gang in her state (some went to jail).

      • wmcb says:

        Yeah, I’m loving the wacko birds too. As for duopolies, funny, but I have a feeling that the same thing will happen with my R friends as happened with my D friends, should an R administration get in office – they will get pissed at me.

        Because I am never doing tribal again. I’ll be bitching and ranting at whoever is currently in power. That’s what speaking truth to power is.

  26. Mary says:

    OT: That new NBC/Wall Street Journal Poll?

    Obama went from 41/46 approval rating in April WITH INDEPENDENTS to a 29/59 approval rating today.

    If he loses the Independents, he’s done.
    Come on, 2014!

    • Lulu says:

      Hoo boy. That is bad. And that is from his kneepads outfit NBC rigging the poll questions. What will Rasmussen show? He should hit the thirties overall by July.

    • I predicted it would take some time for the approval rating to sink. Yep, here it comes – the beginning of the end for him. I doubt he’ll be impeached or that any direct link to the Oval Office will be revealed wrt any/all of these scandals. Doesn’t matter. The asterisk that Tingles is so terrified of is about to be affixed.

  27. swanspirit says:

    I think Obama’s pathology is showing . He is appointing an internationally known LIAR as his Security Adviser .
    This absolutely defiant and in your face appointment only reinforces my feeling that this he is an ; I will do what I want ,and fuck the people, the country, the Republicans, and anyone else, who dares disagree with me in any way narcissist Banana Republic mentality

  28. votermom says:

    School district bans prayer at grad ceremony

    Valedictorian then rips up speech & recites Lord’s Prayer

    story in washtimes
    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jun/5/crowd-stunned-after-valedictorian-rips-speech-reci/

    • HELENK says:

      Good for him. there is a young man that any company should be glad to hire. he has principles and stands up for them

  29. HELENK says:

    http://www.debka.com/article/23019/

    Large US Marine force lands at Aqaba Jordan to go to Jordanian /Syrian border

  30. HELENK says:

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jun/4/bloombergs-next-targets-sweet-tea-energy-drinks-fr/

    there is something seriously wrong with this man. Guess he does not have enough to do as mayor of NYC

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    Joan Walsh auditioning for WH henchjob

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