Rant of the Week – Immigration “Reform”

rant of the week


This week’s ROTW goes to WMCB:

On the whole immigration reform kerfluffle, I only have this to say, with a lot of bad words:

I support NOTHING, not even reforms I might agree with in principle, until the border security part is done FIRST. And the fact that the groups pushing for immigration reform are so gods damned all-fired insistent that it must be done the other way around, makes me suspicious as fuck. I don’t trust them. I don’t trust them not to have us right back in this same place a decade from now.

Why would it matter to them? Illegals have been illegal this long, they can be illegal a little longer, for the months it would take to do the border stuff. WHY is it so important to some to make sure the green cards are in place before we do jack shit about the border? Gee, think it might be that they have no fucking intention of ever cutting off or even managing the flood? Just a rolling amnesty, evry 10 or 20 years, forever.

Close down that fucking border, and get some control over who is coming and going. Once you have DONE that, I could care less if you THEN give every illegal already in the country a green card, a pony, and a hippity hop parade. Go ahead. Hurrah!

But I am not supporting SHIT until that border is taken care of.


Why is the GOP establishment in such a hurry to pass immigration amnesty? The GOP rank and file aren’t pushing for it. Why do they want to hand the Democrats a political victory that will most likely increase the size of the Democratic base in years to come? I could think of lots of other priorities. Worst of all, they are giving away their best bargaining chip.

We’re still stuck in a jobless “recovery” and the only reason the unemployment number have improved slightly is that so many people have exhausted their benefits and aren’t even looking for work. This isn’t exactly the best time to be dramatically expanding the labor pool.

Unless you are a big business owner who uses lots of unskilled and semi-skilled labor. Immigrant labor is cheap and the workers are easier to exploit. It’s even cheaper to send the jobs overseas but that won’t work for some industries like construction and agribusiness.

Of course the Vile Progs claim that anyone who wants to stop the flood of illegal immigrants into this country is just a racist. But most of them live a long way from the border and the only immigrants they see are their gardeners, housekeepers and nannies.

BTW – I don’t know what Marco Rubio was promised to lead the Senate GOP immigration reform posse but I wonder if he realizes that the GOP rank and file have long memories. His stock has been dropping like the ratings on MSNBC.


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91 Responses to Rant of the Week – Immigration “Reform”

  1. myiq2xu says:
    • votermom says:

      • elliesmom says:

        Elliesdad’s doctor wanted some of his medical records yesterday, but didn’t have online access. I suggested he call the NSA. I got a lecture from all concerned about how “open medical records” would benefit everybody. The Pod People have arrived and taken over. Resistance is futile.

  2. myiq2xu says:

    Fucking animals:

    The Taliban beheaded two boys, one 10-year-old and one 16-year-old, after the Taliban charged them with spying. The boys were rummaging among rubbish bins near police headquarters in Kandahar, Afghanistan’s second city, a vital base for Western forces. Grabbed by the Taliban, they were accused of trading the food for information. After they were interrogated by the Taliban, their heads were cut off. The bodies were found in Kandahar’s Zhari district.

  3. angienc says:

    The cries of “racist” re: immigration reform just proves what narrow-minded (and yes RACIST) morons the vile progs are assuming all illegal immigrants are “non-white.”

    Furthermore, it ticks me off that “Hispanic/Latino” is considered some kind of “minority” in the first place for affirmative action purposes — Hispanics/Latinos are *white* for the love of fuck. This whole “brown” classification is mid-20th century vile prog bullshit to sell Hispanics/Latinos on the “victim minority” narrative that they’ve successfully sold to poor blacks in this country. While that narrative at least has a kernel of truth for AA’s given the whole “forced to come here/slavery” aspect that is a part of *their* history it has no such kernel of truth for people who have WILLINGLY left their homes in Central & South America to come here for jobs/a better life/more opportunities than they could dream of in the 2nd & 3rd world countries of their origins. And if you want proof what I just wrote is true: Immigrants for SPAIN are *not* considered “Hispanic/Latino” for minority classification purposes. Un-fucking-believable that people are stupid enough to fall for this crap.

    • driguana says:

      Yes and when you delve into it further it becomes even more preposterous. Having lived in Santa Fe for almost 40 years I can tell you unequivocally that Hispanics do not consider themselves Caucasian….bring it up with them and suffer the slings and arrows!
      Furthermore, “white” European Americans get trashed for what they did to native Americans yet look at the history of the Spanish in the Southwest and Central America…slaughtering thousands and stealing three continents…..yeah, right.

    • We experienced this first hand when hubbie applied for a city job. The Hispanic classification was broken down into the question “are you a European-continental Hispanic?”.

      • Jadzia says:

        In my admittedly limited experience of 2 years living a couple of hours from the Spanish border, Spanish women are just as likely to look like Heather Locklear as they are to look like Penelope Cruz.

        • angienc says:

          And yet a blond/blue eyed woman from Mexico (they exist too) would be entitled to minority preference in the USA.

  4. 1539days says:

    Prog targets like Rush Limbaugh and Lou Dobbs have said the same things. Dobbs used to pick crops with illegals in his younger days. He’s even married to a Mexican woman. His stance has always been that the most rational people in this situation are the illegal immigrants who take advantage of lax immigration to find work.

    Sens. Rubio and Ghamnesty are following in the footsteps of George W Bush, who very nearly passed de facto amnesty. They still think they can compete with Democrats on giving away free citizenship for votes. Ironically, if they supported border security, it would make citizenship more valuable and legal immigrants would support them.

    • angienc says:

      Pre-2008 I’d be worried that I “agreeded” with Rush on something but nowadays it’s a big, fat “meh.” The truth is the truth — I’m not going to start believing prog lies just so I don’t have the same stance as Rush on the issue.
      Latinos come here of their own volition — If the get minority preferences then sonshould every other immigrant group. There are a lot less Greek Americans in this country than Hispanics — why shouldn’t they be treated with minority status? It makes NO sense whatsoever to give such preference to “non-European” Hispanics.

      • angienc says:

        *agreed — I dint know were I came up with “agreeded” LOL Damn iPhone making my lousy proof reading even worse. 🙂

  5. votermom says:

  6. driguana says:

    The George Zimmerman/Treyvon Martin trial is going to bring up a lot of very interesting issues.

    • yttik says:

      Kind of scary how much influence the media and public opinion have had on that case. Even the President commented on it. I hope it’s a fair trial, because it sure seems like this country is on the brink of determining guilt or innocence based on twitter and public opinion polls.

    • leslie says:

      So yesterday I rec’d an email offering me the opportunity to purchase buttons that said “Trayvon is my son” with a picture of the young, innocent-looking trayvon. I sent back the email saying I found it offensive and many other descriptives of the message it sent. I requested to be removed from the mailing list. I couldn’t believe the hateful message I got in reply. Wow. Just wow.

  7. myiq2xu says:
  8. votermom says:

    Why is the GOP establishment in such a hurry to pass immigration amnesty?

    PRISM knows.
    Heck, NSA data is probably influencing Congress’ behavior.
    And by influencing I mean used as means of coercion, intimidation, and outright blackmail.

  9. yttik says:

    We have an aggressive Border Patrol up here. Trust me, they’ve thoroughly secured the Northern border so we no longer have illegal Canadians sneaking in to steal our jobs. Seriously, it’s so insane, people who actually work for Border Patrol have gone to congress to testify and ask WTH? Needless to say, when you don’t have many illegals to focus on, you have to spend your time harassing US citizens, which they’ve turned into an art form. If you live within 100 miles of the border, you’re in a federal buffer zone, so forget about the 4th amendment. Heck, the whole Bill of Rights is in question.

  10. votermom says:

    We are international laughing stocks

  11. fif says:

    OT, but this is truly frightening. Nutshell: do whatever you want with our civil liberties, we’re not paying attention anyway.

    Majority Views NSA Phone Tracking as Acceptable Anti-terror Tactic
    Public Says Investigate Terrorism, Even If It Intrudes on Privacy

    A majority of Americans – 56% – say the National Security Agency’s (NSA) program tracking the telephone records of millions of Americans is an acceptable way for the government to investigate terrorism, though a substantial minority – 41% – say it is unacceptable. And while the public is more evenly divided over the government’s monitoring of email and other online activities to prevent possible terrorism, these views are largely unchanged since 2002, shortly after the 9/11 terrorist attacks.

    The latest national survey by the Pew Research Center and The Washington Post, conducted June 6-9 among 1,004 adults, finds no indications that last week’s revelations of the government’s collection of phone records and internet data have altered fundamental public views about the tradeoff between investigating possible terrorism and protecting personal privacy.

    However, Republicans and Democrats have had very different views of the two operations. Today, only about half of Republicans (52%) say it is acceptable for the NSA to obtain court orders to track phone call records of millions of Americans to investigate terrorism. In January 2006, fully 75% of Republicans said it was acceptable for the NSA to investigate suspected terrorists by listing in on phone calls and reading emails without court approval.

    Democrats now view the NSA’s phone surveillance as acceptable by 64% to 34%. In January 2006, by a similar margin (61% to 36%), Democrats said it was unacceptable for the NSA to scrutinize phone calls and emails of suspected terrorists.

    Roughly a quarter (27%) of Americans say they are following news about the government collecting Verizon phone records very closely. This is a relatively modest level of public interest. Only another 21% say they are following this fairly closely, while about half say they are following not too (17%) or not at all (35%) closely.

    http://www.people-press.org/2013/06/10/majority-views-nsa-phone-tracking-as-acceptable-anti-terror-tactic/

    • elliesmom says:

      This is what’s making me so sad this week. Elliesdad gets angry at me for even bringing it up. Maybe it was the “You’re a really good little German” comment I made to him when he said it was much ado about nothing. The next president will be able to move the needle a little farther, and the next one a little more. People will find themselves living in a police state and wonder how they got there, but it will be too late. The next group of American patriots to come along won’t be up against muskets. They’ll be targeted by drones. And hiding behind trees won’t do much for them either.

      • votermom says:

        I don’t care what the majority thinks or feels.
        I know what’s right.
        This is the hill to die on.

        • elliesmom says:

          I was in Boston yesterday and looking for a quick lunch. I bopped on over to Faneuil Hall to the market. The tourists have arrived for the summer, and they were all paying rapt attention to the “explainers” telling them about the history of the building and all of the “brave men” who had fought for their freedom. I almost interrupted. Maybe that will be my “summer job”. Protesting the lack of protest.

        • votermom says:

          LOL. There’s a T-Mobile ad here that says “Philly is all about freedom : Liberty Bell, blah blah blah”
          Makes me want to scream.

    • lildoggy4u says:

      How is a sampling of people totaling 1,004 comparable to the US population of 313.9 million (2012) worthy of this headline!!!!
      The sample probably comes from the DC area anyway and is tied to their jobs remaining secure.

  12. lildoggy4u says:

    I think the NSA has Rubio by the balls.

    Maxine Waters, traitor or patriot?youtube.com/watch?v=L63R2b…— Glenn McGahee (@lildoggy4u) June 11, 2013

      • Karma says:

        What’s interesting about that statement is it’s essentially a threat to Dem politicians and not the Reps.

        Obama threatening Dems continues. I wonder if the DNC/Dems really knew what they were doing when they kneecapped Hillary?

  13. votermom says:

    LOL

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  15. driguana says:

    my thought for the morning…

  16. votermom says:

  17. wmcb says:

    Well, my rant was posted I see. Seriously, I have the utmost sympathy for the majority of border-hoppers. My brother in law was one. (He’s a citizen now). Great guy. Came here in the trunk of his uncle’s car at 13. And I’m all for more legal immigration. But we can’t keep doing this business of having no clue who is coming in. Right now we have a porous, useless border with tiny legal gates. I want a secure border with BIG legal gates.

    As for those illegals already here, I do not trust the govt to ever actually secure that border if we give them the amnesty first. Sorry, I don’t. We’ve played that before. Border first, amnesty or path or work permit or whatever after.

  18. myiq2xu says:
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  20. votermom says:

    TedCruz is tweeting the bill of rights

  21. wmcb says:

    So I’ve been perusing some of the blogs of conservatives that I know to be very much pro-security, pro-war on terror.

    What is interesting is that some of them are trying hard to cast doubt on Snowden, defend the NSA. Oh, they are not gung ho, they are cautious, but you can see them struggling to make it fit into the “regrettable but ok in the larger picture” niche. And they can’t.

    What is even more interesting though, is their comment sections. I’m talking about conservatives here, and the comments are pretty much “Don’t bullshit, this is bad, this is a violation and alarming. We need to rethink the whole apparatus, the whole ball of wax.”

    In an odd way, it’s like watching all of us here 4 or 5 years ago, when we were struggling with our attachment to Dem talking points. Trying to reconcile what we were seeing with what we thought “our side” was supposed to be about, and going, “Nuh uh….sorry, but that’s not right..” Some conservatives are on that same journey, of “Who are you going to beleive, me or your lying eyes?”.

    Many are seeing that what is a very good, sound principle, i.e. “Defend the USA from terror attacks”, has been perverted and used against them to keep them in line. Much like “Don’t be racist and help the needy” was perverted and turned to a weapon by the Dem party.

    We are at a chancy time in this country. And a lot of citizens, from every party, are beginning to trust themselves and their own judgement more than they trust the “leaders”. They are becoming more resistant to political tribal bullying. And that’s a good thing, IMO.

    TPTB are in trouble if we reach a critical mass of people who cannot be goaded into reacting on cue to what they are told. If we reach a critical mass of people who are confident in their OWN minds and judgement. Will we still have political parties/groups that disagree mightily? Of course. But those groups might become once again more the tools of the people who support them, rather than the other way around.

    What was our rallying cry 6 years ago? “I own my vote!” And since then, I have added to that “I own my self, I own my thoughts. I don’t owe blind political loyalty to a soul in this world.” A nation of people centered in themselves, confident in their own ability to reason, is very very hard to manipulate – wherever they fall on the political spectrum.

    I don’t hold out a lot of hope, of course. We live in perilous times. But the cracks in the edifice of our sick sick political system are showing. They are showing bigtime. What comes next? Have no idea. But I would trust my ordinary everyday neighbor, whether he wears an R or a D or an L, before I’d trust the perfumed consultants and ad-makers and focus groups busily planning how to move us this way or that en masse.

    I trust a nation of individuals, operating within a basic framework of sacrosanct liberties, (even with the loonies in the mix) if we can ever get it back.

  22. Constance says:

    Yeah! This immigration thing is bullshit. About 30% of American citizens don’t graduate from High School so we don’t need to import unskilled labor. If there are unskilled jobs available and Citizens won’t take them then they are getting too much welfare from the government as they aren’t hungry enough to work YET. How many of you know unemployed recent college grads? I bet everyone. We also don’t need to be importing workers to take college level jobs until our citizens are employed. And the Citizens of this country have many many problems that OUR government could be working on, how did the problems of a bunch of illegal aliens get pushed to the front of the agenda? This is Bullshit and I;m voting against any politician who supports it.

    Also the best, brightest and most motivated from other countries need to stay in their countries and make them better places to live for their own countrypersons, not ditch out and live underground in the USA.

    • lildoggy4u says:

      Constance, what happens when we open the borders to a flood of Spanish speaking immigrants is that you’ll not be able to get a job here unless you speak that language (spanish). I’m living that nightmare down here in South Florida.

      • foxyladi14 says:

        Sad that those congress critters can’t see that 🙄

      • As in WI and the protests against Palermo’s Pizza, companies could be forced to have a Spanish speaking supervisor IF the appeals court rules in favor of the employees fronted by Voces de la Frontera. Think about that. Any business could be forced to hire employees who speak Spanish. (btw Palermo’s Pizza is not a “sweat shop” but employees made way above average salaries with benefits. They’re primary demand is their supervisor speak Spanish like them.)

      • HELENK says:

        dial 1 for english, dial 2 for spanish when you call the whitehouse

  23. votermom says:

    http://www.bizpacreview.com/2013/06/11/actor-shia-labeoufs-creepy-2008-leno-tape-foretells-nsa-scandal-76119

    Actor Shia LaBeouf was on the “Tonight Show” on Sept. 16, 2008, plugging the film “Eagle Eye,” a thriller about a secret government computer connected to cameras and communications systems everywhere in the country, as told by Breitbart.com.

    Surprisingly, LaBeouf told host Jay Leno that an FBI consultant on the film had played him a recording of a private conversation with a girlfriend that took place two years before he was cast in the film.

    “Creepy,” as Leno said at the time.

  24. wmcb says:

  25. votermom says:

    Robert Reich

    • Karma says:

      This morning Mika was still indignant that a drop-out with “no formal education” had pulled a fast one on poor old Booz.

      And as I went to MSNBC to find the video that creepy ‘GE is the Matrix’ ad is all over the site….lol

  26. votermom says:

    LOL

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  30. votermom says:

    Never fear, PDSer’s will save the country!

  31. HELENK says:

    http://nalert.blogspot.com/2013/06/ron-paul-blasts-nsa-defenders-on-piers.html

    good rand. I never really paid attention to Ron Paul , thought he was extreme. now I am not so sure

    • wmcb says:

      Ron Paul was absolutely dead-on about 90% of the time, but the other 10% wasn’t just “meh”, it was loony lalaland. RP would start a paragraph well, then by the end have transgressed into ldicrous territory. He was also too far into the Isolationist camp on foreign policy, thinking no one will ever bother us if we don’t actively start wars. Yeah, right. Whereas Rand is more of a “strong defense because bad guys DO exist, but let’s mind our own business” guy.

      Rand so far seems to have taken the best of his father and lost the Cookoopants baggage. He’s strongly libertarian. But he’s also much more measured and practical re: politics, and the reality that some things are worth going to the mat for, some aren’t.

  32. votermom says:

    Btw I tweeted earlier that history might call this The Age of Putin (footnote: Obama & the American Caliphate)

  33. foxyladi14 says:

    Also please note that this latest Scandalance gets the topic back to BUSH did it 🙂

  34. Karma says:

    It’s voluntary now but after the Supreme Court ruling it doesn’t seem like a very big jump to DUI/DNA roadblocks.

    http://dailycaller.com/2013/06/10/off-duty-cops-collect-dna-samples-at-alabama-roadblocks/

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