Fool Me Once, Won’t Get Fooled Again!


Been there, done that:

Democrats start transition from President Obama to Hillary Clinton

Democrats in Washington are starting to shift from the Obamas to the Clintons.

Hillary Clinton has already racked up a couple of endorsements for the 2016 presidential race — and she hasn’t even announced she’s running yet. Requests are flooding in for the former secretary of State to campaign for candidates.

Of course, President Obama remains the most sought-after figure, but his star power could fade in the coming months as the chatter about his successor intensifies. His approval rating has fallen as his administration has grappled with a variety of controversies ranging from IRS overreach to government snooping.

“The political focus of the Democratic Party will shift to Hillary, and in some ways it has already,” said former Pennsylvania Gov. Ed Rendell (D), who, as a staunch Clinton supporter, has an interest in seeing his forecast come true.

He noted that while Obama will be the policy leader of the party, there will be an “inherent transition” politically to the person Democrats see as the next leader.

That person is probably Clinton, who is trouncing all other potential Democratic rivals in 2016 presidential polls.


“There is a cautious presumption that the nomination is hers for the taking,” said Phil Singer, deputy communications manager for Clinton’s 2008 campaign.

“People are excited about the prospect of a Clinton candidacy, but also cognizant a campaign is a long way off.”

That caution is in place for a reason: There is a danger that Clinton could peak too early. She was the heavy favorite in the 2008 Democratic race before narrowly losing to Obama.

“Bubbles inflated early in the process can deflate,” Singer said.

I’ll believe it when I see it. Most of those backstabbers and Clinton-haters that ambushed her in 2008 are still around. The Vile Progs still hate her, and so does the media. Chris Matthews is jizzing in his pants at the thought of putting the final nail in her career coffin.

Besides, if Hillary wants my vote she’s gotta convince me she deserves it. I’m not ruling her out, but she’s got some ‘splainin to do.

On the other hand, if it’s a choice between her and Joe Biden . . .

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97 Responses to Fool Me Once, Won’t Get Fooled Again!

  1. driguana says:

    I don’t know…think I’m going off Maggie’s Farm for awhile again on voting for a president. I’ve only voted for 2 in my 65 years and they both lost…and both were good men. So, as Hillary would say. “what’s the difference”? The presidential election is really nothing more than a media orchestrated popularity poll anyway, so what’s the choice? Obama clearly did not have the experience to be president, and it is showing, yet he had “charm” and “charisma” and so he won. Mitt didn’t have the charisma and neither did McCain. Sarah did but she got pounded and was not running for president although she had more experience than Obama.

    The other disturbing fact is evolving demographics and “who” actually votes. It seems hard to fathom that a Republican candidate is going to win against a party of minorities any time soon….ain’t gonna happen….sorry.

    So one is left voting for a libertarian??? Really.

    The only other real option, in my mind, is still a third party but this ain’t gonna happen anytime soon either…plus, it’s likely to simply be a “moderate” party that would get bashed from the git-go.

    It’s really a depressing situation except that one can get involved and vote at the local level and I strongly, and personally believe that is where real change in this country will commence.

    Sorry for the negativity….it’s a Thursday and I am really sick of Obama and all politicians in general…is there not a strong voice for common sense problem solving out there…somewhere??? Somewhere outside of the ludicrous loop of politics?

    • DeniseVB says:

      I was picking through the Dem polls and there really is no one I’m jiggy about on their side. If Hillary does NOT run, as of now, Joe Biden is their overwhelming favorite. He barely broke 1% of the votes in the 2008 primaries….Really? This was done in May….

      If Hillary does run, the GOP must run a lady too, or the Dems will hammer the right with misogyny over their fat heads.

      Palin/Cruz is sounding mighty tasty right now 😀 If Amnesty passes, it better be Martinez/Cruz or Rubio……heh.

      • swanspirit says:

        If Joe Biden runs he will lose to whomever his opponent is .

      • driguana says:

        Martinez is currently being pounded in New Mexico on a variety of issues. While she did win the governorship in NM, she is really disliked by NM progs….we’ll see. Personally I like her. I was one of the prime movers behind recent attempts to bring more movie industry activity to NM and created a Media District in Santa Fe County to allow for the location and development of Santa Fe Studios, where recently some of the new Lone Ranger was filmed. Martinez at first was opposed to tax incentives for the film industry in NM but came around in a very constructive way, given that the movie industry is almost entirely progressive supported….props to her for that.

        • DeniseVB says:

          They filmed Lincoln almost entirely in Virginia and people whined about how much the tax incentives were costing the state. Little do they realize it almost brings in double the loss by how much film crews spend in the state. Perhaps someone explained that to Gov. Martinez. 🙂 It’s how states attract any business for that matter. I think Gov. Perry is trying to make a sweet deal to bring Apple hdqtrs to Texas.

  2. yttik says:

    “He noted that while Obama will be the policy leader of the party…”

    Oh, hell no.

  3. sleepyhead says:

    Oh, but Claire McCaskill’s kids have told her to support Hillary this time:

    Pardon me for not standing and cheering. This irritates me to no end.

    • Lulu says:

      McCaskill’s kids must have grown up and be unemployed. This time she will ask her dog who to support.

    • DandyTiger says:

      Jeebus, how does anyone take McCaskill seriously. What a sad joke she is.

    • Anthony says:

      Forgive my foul mouth, but McCaskill can go fuck herself. As can Rendell and all the rest of the Dems who stabbed her in the back in 2008 so the Boy Wonder could take office.

      • lyn says:


      • TorchWood says:

        Saw Rendell in Philly at a wawa no less (Orders his own hoagies-Props, Ed). Asked him about that. No real answer. My guess is that he got pressure from the party bosses.

        • Erica says:

          As I recall, he hung in there for a long while before he finally caved. Charm and charisma be damned, 0 and his people are masters of coercion.

  4. DeniseVB says:

    Dana Loesch’s on fire ! Video of her speech at the TP Rally….many great speeches that more people watched in person than Obama’s Berlin speech 😉

  5. DandyTiger says:

    It’s hard to fathom the most misogynistic party, the Dems, would ever select Hillary. The CDS is alive and well, and the faux pushing for Hillary is just a front until they find another idiot empty suit they can push over her. The new Dem part is a fucking joke.

    The only bigger joke is the Repub party. Seriously, the Repub party establishment is about the same as the Dem party establishment. They will crush anyone who is even remotely independent over an idiot empty suit on their side.

    I remain skeptical of the whole pile of shit that is presidential politics. I will probably still vote. If we have two similar jokes, I’ll likely vote for some third party candidate. If there is a really horrible person on one side, I’ll likely vote against them. But who knows, I still want to punish the Dem party, so that will effect my vote as well.

  6. I’m standing by what I’ve been saying, which is that she won’t run, and if she does, some skinny ass beta male will beat her either in the primary or the general election. I’d love to be wrong about this, but seeing the Resurrection of Wiener in NYC, where I suspect he will beat the lesbian front runner candidate, does not give me hope.

    • swanspirit says:

      I don’t think she will run either , but right now , she is all that passes for a candidate in the Obamacrat camp.

      • driguana says:

        Yes, that’s really a good point. Many people, especially the vile progs, are saying the the Republicans have no one to run but who do the Democrats have? Outside of Hillary, no one! Good point.

      • Erica says:

        Geez, for a second I read that as the Obamacrap camp.

    • myiq2xu says:

      NYC is full of dicks.

    • Anthony says:

      Most of us in NYC are groaning about Weiner’s Second Cumming. We really don’t want to be mortified by his win, but the Dem $$$ machine is powerful. If he wins, it will be either because of the same voter fraud that happened during the GE or because he was bankrolled a la Bloomberg’s third term.

    • When it becomes normal for a candidate to volunteer their sexual gratification preferences in order for the electorate to cast an informed ballot is when it’s time to pull the plug and begin anew. IMO.

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  7. Anthony says:

    Why are the Dems and the MSM using Hillary’s possible run for POTUS as a shiny object to distract us from the dismal performance by their current choice only 6 months into his second term? That’s the real ‘story behind the story’, I think…

  8. DandyTiger says:

    Holy crap, my near by Giants farm team, the Flying Squirrels suck. Fucking Giants (farm team).

  9. Constance says:

    I thought the conventional wisdom was that it was Republicans who nominated the next guy in line for President. The people who screwed Hillary in 2008 are stronger now than they were back then. They aren’t rational since the rational thing to do in 2008 was let Hillary win, declare an amazing “first” for the country, have the less experienced Obama as her VP and then move him in to place for two terms starting in 2016. Of course it took the Dems 5 years to realize that Hillary winning would be a first for the country.

    Hillary is too old and won’t appeal to the vapid Obama voter who is all the Dems have left. I’m not so sure they will notice Biden is an idiot. She may have had a disqualifying health issue when she was out of the public eye for her “head injury” a few months ago. The current focus on her by media and Democrats is just to try to woo back Hillary voters and their money and salvage their reputations as being pro woman. They are doing their woman candidate supporting time now when it is too early to matter and will switch on a dime to the young, brown, gay man of the hour when the time comes. I don’t know who he is yet but since experience doesn’t matter he could be anyone.

    • Anthony says:

      The current focus on her by media and Democrats is just to try to woo back Hillary voters and their money and salvage their reputations as being pro woman

      THIS!!! ^

      • gxm17 says:

        x eleventy.

        I don’t think she’s going to run either and any so-called support the progbots may give her now will suddenly evaporate if she actually enters the race.

        I’m still a 30-percenter and will vote for any woman at the top of the ticket. Lucky for me, that will most likely be the Green Party. (Although I must admit that Michele Bachmann gives me considerable pause and I probably couldn’t cast a vote for her.)

    • DeniseVB says:

      Bill Clinton came out of nowhere just a few months before the first primaries. He was a charming rascal, we didn’t even care about his past diddlin’ with the ladies 😀

  10. cynic says:

    Aren’t there any admirable Dem Governors? I’m from IL, forget Quinn.

    • Erin says:

      Admirable is subjective so I dont tknow if these guys qualify byt the NY and MD governors are on the short list of males currently “qualified” to be considered serious candidates for the Dem ticket in “16 by the press. Both get talked about that way in the local and national press.

      • DeniseVB says:

        Deval Patrick in MA is too. So far all the Dem Govs seem to have their lips firmly planted on Obama’s ass 😦 I think there’s a lady gov in the NW that’s pretty popular but she was born in Canada?

        • Jadzia says:

          The only popular lady gov in the NW I can think of is Christine Gregoire, who was born in Michigan. Are you thinking of Jennifer Granholm the former governor of Michigan? She was born in Vancouver… (Which is in the PNW, officially closing the circle!)

        • DeniseVB says:

          jad – thanks for the correction. Wasn’t Granholm the one who gave a nutty speech at the Dem convention? Guess not her 😉

        • Constance says:

          Gregoire would be good but she has had cancer and she isn’t Ivy indoctrinated. Gregoire received all of her education in Washington which sells well here in Washington but would get the same condescending scoff treatment that Palin got from the east coast elitists who control the national party and the east coast media which deludes themselves in to believing that they are the national media . Gregoire was in office when the state was in terrible economic condition and because she couldn’t run a deficit she did a pretty good job of cutting programs.

      • swanspirit says:

        Md Governor O’Malley is obsequious ,off-putting and obtuse , all at the same time . He just doesn’t have what it takes to be on the national stage .

    • leslie says:

      I’m from IL, too. I think Ogilvie might have been the only one in my lifetime here. And I’m not certain about him. My parents had fits when they learned I had voted for him. As he was a “evil” Republican. I was the first person in the family to have voted for a person of party.

  11. Constance says:

    Besides, can you picture the political ads with an old looking Hillary throwing up her hands saying “at this point what difference does it make?” I think if she ever wanted to run again she would not have gone with that unflattering hair style that aged her so much. There is so much film of her in that incarnation that can be used to subtly turn youth voters skeptical of her providing the Republicans run a more youthful man. I think Republicans can win with a youthful brown man and a woman as VP. But they have to give up on their behavior that is interpreted as anti birth control or women’s health by vapid voters. Like it or not vapid voters are the majority and they have been mobilized. The thing is any argument of principle that could be made against birth control could also be made against erectile dysfunction drugs but since Republicans and Catholic hard cores haven’t made that ED argument they lose the high ground on the issue.

  12. wmcb says:

    I think those of you who are looking at 2008 and saying that those nasty misogynist Hillary-hating Dems won’t nominate her are forgetting something about progs:

    They don’t care. They lie. Power is the only thing that is important. If Hillary looks to be their best shot at more power, then HuffPo and Kos and the DNC and the media, and Axelrod himself will shove down the memory hole the entire Hillary-hate era and laud her as the greatest thing ever. Watch them.

    Their hate and derision is not real, any more than their cheering support is real. They hate ONE thing: whatever loses them power. They cheer ONE thing: whatever will give them more power. Principles and causes, or hate and derision, are merely means to an end. They swap those out with ease. They can campaign with a gay-bashing Donnie McClurkin, then be champion of the gays in the next breath. They’ll turn on a dime, without even blinking. “Eurasia/Hillary has always been our greatest ally,” they’ll proclaim.

    And no, I will not be voting for her if they run her. I will not be voting for anyone those duplicitous snakes nominate, ever. Hillary has proven to me over the past 5 years that her loyalty is to the Democratic Party, above all other considerations. And that party, now completely controlled by Vile Progs, is bad news for my country.

    Whether I vote R or third party L or whatever remains to be seen, but I know for a fact I won’t be voting D.

    • HELENK says:

      they do not and never will understand Country before Party always

    • DeniseVB says:

      Remember, the fresh new voters for 2016 were just finishing up elementary school in 2008. Remember all those schools visited and children’s events hosted by the Obamas? Start ’em on the kool aid young and they will follow. I’m sure it’s covered by Alinsky or someone.

      Wish the GOP would read up on the Rules for Radicals and grow a pair.

    • Lulu says:

      No Democrats in 2016. None of them. They ALL need a long time in the wilderness because every damn one of them enabled this horrific mess. I can forgive the Clintons’ for being involved with Obama but I will never give either of them another opportunity to screw up this badly again. Both of their careers in politics are over as far as I am concerned. Any Hillary in 2016 is just bait and switch and I tune it out. She didn’t just get cheated and beat in 2008, she went over to the other side. Enough. Go away. Let someone else have a chance without sucking up all of the oxygen to stroke Clinton egos and as a diversion from the Obama failure.

  13. driguana says:

    With all of the above being said, sounds like it could be an interesting 2016, if we can get there!!!

  14. HELENK says:

    this is off topic
    sneaking under the radar another scandal. court packing by backtrack

    maybe you could explain just how with what is going on in the government today this can hurt the American citizen

  15. HELENK says:

    stole this from Rev Amy’s place

    list of rules for women from the taliban

    Hilary helped these people get an office in Quater. no much help for women

  16. TorchWood says:

    Ok, my 2 cents.

    I’ve voted (R) in 2008 and 2012. As much as I love and respect Hilary, I will regrettably pull the lever for her opponent if she has the stench of That One on her. Had enough of these idiots. Honestly, I hope she doesn’t run because the mess she’ll inherit will totally not be worth it and she won’t be able to shift the blame to her predecessor.

    • DeniseVB says:

      I honestly believe the only one who can clean up after Obama is Sarah Palin, as she did so effectively in Alaska. Maybe Romney too since he worked his magic on the Olympics that was circling the drain.

      • HELENK says:

        Sarah would get savaged and that is a very sad truth. It is 5 years since she ran and the vile progs still go after her and her family.
        I would like to see the republican party listen to her more. she is the voice of the people conservative and moderate. She would be a great adviser and really do more for the country that way. I would like to see Mitch Romney as an adviser also. The brains and understanding of these two would help turn the country to a good path.

        I like Paul Ryan and think he would be smart enough to take the advice of Sarah and Mitch.and still make his own decisions
        There are a few younger republicans that are listening to the people and would be good as vice president

        what do you think of a Ryan – Paul ticket

      • Constance says:

        Maybe Republicans could have a Romney/Palin ticket with the slogan “had enough yet?”. I think Republicans could make some progress with young folks by running a bunch of short ads with hard working kids life guarding in the sun, digging ditches for construction, picking berries, babysitting etc and then anticipating their first check but getting mad when they get it and see that 35% of it is missing and taken by their silent partner, big government. Sure the economy is bad but a lot of vapid voters from 2008 and 2012 will have experienced reality by the 2016 election and are probably sick of experiencing financial malnutrition on their diet hopeium.

        • DeniseVB says:

          I’d love that. GOP has been know to resurrect former runners. Nixon, Reagan come to mind. 🙂

        • Jadzia says:

          Or not getting any paycheck at all, given the high unemployment rate among young people (particularly POC) these days. It is beyond me why young voters are not looking at, among other issues, which party is actually grooming rising stars from the younger generations, because it seems to me that those younger politicians might have a more visceral sense of what the kids are up against nowadays. I’ll give you a hint: the name of that party does not begin with a D. Are there ANY Democratic rising stars under the age of 55 other than Cory Booker and Kirsten Gillibrand? I sure can’t think of any.

          I am not saying this to hate on the Baby Boomers. However, many BB politicians seem to have little to no understanding of the problems faced by kids (young adults) entering the workforce today with tens of thousands of dollars in nondischargeable student loans, and an economy that simply has no room for them–or worse, requires them to do years of unpaid internships in order to qualify for an entry-level job that might not even have real benefits). Helpful hint: graciously allowing them to remain health-insurance dependents of their parents until age 26 is not a long-term economic solution.

        • Constance says:

          “I am not saying this to hate on the Baby Boomers”

          It isn’t hating on BBs to point out they have have different needs than younger people and the needs of ambitious hard working young people are not being met by Democrats. I’m a BB and I think my generation has not been proper stewards of our country and have allowed the country to wallow in excess and become weak. Both parties are responsible for the debt BBs have run up.

  17. DeniseVB says:

    Jam packed schedule for this year’s Netroots Nation, you can read it here ….

    I love the one about them monitoring 10,000 facebook pages in a year! Yeah, to help them be better social networkers! I’m sure a few stopped by Romney Democrats ….. hmmmmm?

  18. HELENK says:

    funny thing, ben laden attacked the financial center of the country to bring the country down. seems like the backtrack bunch is continuing his work

  19. HELENK says:

    why don’t I feel more secure.
    IRS the gang that could not shoot straight

  20. HELENK says:

    find this interesting
    Russia throws it weight behind of karzai on peace talks

  21. HELENK says:

    zimmerman jury picked all women

  22. HELENK says:

    where is the money ?
    afghan contractors not getting paid

  23. HELENK says:

    stock market in free fall. dropping like a lead balloon

    • cynic says:

      MSNBC’s Morning Joe caught a break. They didn’t have to discuss Obama’s speech in Berlin. They even had Chris Matthews on, but they decided to dedicate over a third of the show to Gandolfini’s death.

      They also had Clare McCaskill on to discuss her coming out and supporting Hillary already.

  24. HELENK says:

    Walter Reed Military Hospital will furlough thousands due to sequester. will have 11 days off without pay.
    Backtrack and mooch will spend $60 million to 100million on African vacation before spending the summer at the cape.

  25. HELENK says:

    first the boston bomber now a cop killer named as victim of gun violence.

    you can not fix stupid

  26. HELENK says:

    just because I had kids like this

    • Jadzia says:

      HA HA HA HA HA. Tonight is Cecilia’s first night in her big-girl bed (tomorrow is her “BERFDAY!!!!!”) and this is pretty much how I figured it would go. Surprisingly, we haven’t heard from her yet.

  27. foxyladi14 says:

    Happy “BERFDAY Cecilia. 🙂

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