The Victim Parade (Cross-posted)

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Myiq must be out mowing the grass or searching for a new kitty. Comments are piling up in the last post. Earlier he wished I’d cross-posted The Victim Parade here. Since I’m tapped out due to insomnia and loathe to write anything new, here is that post in its entirety. Consider this an open thread.


Oh, my. Here it comes now: The Victim Parade.

In the wake of star witness Rachel Jeantel’s testimony in the George Zimmerman case, a flood of narrative shaping litanies has been unleashed decrying the maltreatment of said star witness. MsRachel_94‘s Twitter feed has as its tagline the words, “My Character And Action Describe Who I Am” and after 7 mostly combative hours on the stand, in which she fairly spat the word “Sir” at defense attorneys, most of America is familiar with both her character and actions. She is the face of underclass black America, and indicative of its attitude toward anyone not swaddled in the suffocating hold of black underclass culture.

In one such litany called What White People Don’t Understand About Rachel Jeantel, author Rachel Samara displays part of what it is that irks so many American whites. It’s in the very first line:

A predominantly white jury is not going to like Rachel Jeantel. Let’s just be real here.

After a lifetime of being told we are not to pigeon-hole people, that we must treat them as individuals deserving of respect for their human status, to see a women on a black-oriented hip hop website resort to the exact same behavior she spends 20+ paragraphs decrying is annoying. Nevermind that Samara is a thin blond chick or that one could easily portray her the same way people on the left portray the women of Fox News: as a disingenuous foil being used for her looks to sell a point of view the group of men in charge don’t believe in. That’s just icing on this poisoned cake.

In another screed at the Sad Bastard Bar, an actual immigrant stands in defense of the American-born, English-speaking Jeantel because she couldn’t be understood. The defense offered? The same one used by the prosecution; she had a Haitian mom who spoke Creole sometimes. This is being portrayed across the web as The Most Important Reason she couldn’t talk straight. This false sympathy chaps at the hide because Jeantel spoke good English when she wanted to, and she spoke clearly when she wanted to. The problem wasn’t her English, it was her apathy and attitude, her insistence on proving her hood credibility in a court of law, and on national television.

No one in that courtroom gave a shit about her hood credibility or her court nails, and for good reason. It was a court of law and a second degree murder trial, one in which one young man was dead and another young man’s life was hanging in the balance. This is serious shit requiring serious attention and serious conduct.

A black man at DailyKos, the clearinghouse for progressive race relations, has a recommended diary called The Digital Lynching of Rachel Jeantel. Like the other articles linked above, it’s heavy on emotional exploitation and light on logic. In Vyan’s telling, Rachel:

…was an amazingly shy teenager. At times introverted, distraught and occasionally brittle. She was notย Media Trained. She’s not massively articulate.

This of course didn’t stop her from becoming a laughing stock online.

Among the great ironies of this diary is the linking of a Salon article within it, where a quote about her not being blond and thin, and there goes her credibility…was included, which I suppose brings us back to Samara from the first linked article.

The irony and assumptions present in the articles about white people are astounding, and will do little to cultivate alliances with white people who genuinely care about Civil Rights issues. Oh, sure, those who speak the progressive language, who’ve gladly slapped on their white guilt shackles, will get it, but those aren’t the kinds of people these authors need on their side. That is, if changing what they perceive as evidence of white racism is their agenda. I’m not convinced it is.

The upside to all of this is that we are, finally, getting to have that conversation on race that President Obama said we needed to have in 2008. I want to do my part. What I perceived of Jeantel was that she is evidence of the failure of our national attempts to address race relations, to end racism in America. She is exactly the kind of person I avoid in any government office, or while shopping or seeking services. Her hostility toward life in general, and white people in particular, is not something I want to have to deal with. And yet, I do, often.

By way of example, a while ago I took my daughter and her friend on vacation in the northeast. We stopped at a grocery store near the Susan B. Anthony House, which is located in a predominantly black neighborhood in Rochester, NY. We were going to campsite near the Finger Lakes and I needed to buy about $12 worth of groceries. The store had one of those card systems; one price if you had the card, a higher price if you didn’t. I had calculated our meager funds practically to the penny to see us through to the next day, when my paycheck would be deposited in our account. When I got to the cashier and learned I needed the card, I asked her, a teenaged black girl, if they had one at the register, which is standard practice at my local grocery store. I explained that I was traveling through and didn’t need a card as I would likely never shop at the chain again.

They didn’t, she informed me, and I must go stand in the line to sign up for one. I dutifully went and stood in a line, and a charming old black man, who’d been behind me in line, stopped on his way out and said he’d be happy to help me by allowing me to use his card. So we went back to the cashier, who’d been watching our discussion, and she blocked the transaction. We weren’t allowed to share cards, she told us. At this point I got frustrated. I’d been subject to this treatment before and had an inkling she was being difficult because I was white.

I was right. After going back to stand in the line for a card I would never need again and standing there at length, the other cashier at the store approached me and called me over to her line, which had been full when the original cashier was dealing with me. She pulled a card from beneath her register, scanned it, and I paid for my items, thanked her very much for her help, and was on my merry way in about three minutes. The ordeal before this had cost me 30 minutes of travel time. For what? So the teenaged cashier could prove something about whitey?


I wish I could say this was the only incident I’ve ever had where I picked up on passive aggressive racial animus, but it wasn’t. It happens all the time, and not just to me. It happens to wait staff frequently, who often don’t get tipped by black patrons, it happens to people trying to get services at BMVs and courthouses around the country. It happened to my spouse last week at the library when he tried to get a library card. I’ve encountered it at the workplace, too.

Now, I know some black people who read this will snicker and think to themselves, so what? I deal with this all the time. Or, how does it feel? But that was never the point of the Civil Rights movement, or people’s genuine interest, mine included, in addressing race issues in America. This is not some grand experiment in us trading places, or in us pulling each other down to the lowest common denominator. It’s about respect, and I decidedly don’t feel it coming from certain quarters of my fellow citizens, even though I myself always try to treat others with respect. ย If others are allowed to complain about this state of affairs and expect their complaints to be taken seriously, so should people like me.

That’s one part of my frustration with this narrative developing about Rachel Jeantel. People like me are being told that we must respect where she comes from, even in the face of her hostility toward everyone else. We’re told we must feel sorry for her circumstance, even though it’s clear as day that she doesn’t care and is perfectly comfortable with the squalor from which she comes. That is unacceptable to many people, because we are out here trying every day to improve our lives and the lives of others when and where we can. It’s not too much to expect that from our fellow citizens.

The other part of it is the disingenuousness of the messengers. The Samaras, Sad Bastards, and Vyans of the world have likely very recently made a hard-hearted joke or mocked the likes of Honey Boo Boo, or toothless Southerners. They would ask us to understand that Jeantel only knows the few square blocks around her house, even as they mercilessly mock the trailer park kid who only knows the rows of trailers in his or her park. They decry that people mock a 19 year old for being fat, even as they mock an 8 year old for being fat. They say we should feel sympathy for Jeantel’s lack of education and the circumstances of her life, even as they have little to no sympathy for whites in similar situations.

We are not having a contest over who can be the shittiest, or at least we shouldn’t be, but that’s what it has devolved into. Half a century ago white Americans we asked to look at , inspect, and change their behavior, to notice their own shortcomings and address their weaknesses. They did so, and while every wrong has not been corrected, the country is a vastly improved place in which to be a person of color. We no longer have reading tests to vote, lynchings, or overt professional barriers, nor are the nation’s colleges and military ranks closed to black Americans. It is now past time for black Americans and other Americans of color to do the same. Because we are not going to get any better until they do their part, and as long as apathy and ridicule are the name of the game, the Jeantel’s of the world will be fair game. There’s a reason she thinks “cracker” is the norm, instead of a display of racial insensitivity. And that mindset should be mocked right out of existence.

In the meantime, cheap attempts to exploit emotions while ignoring the factual evidence on display will continue to play badly, if they have any effect at all. White Americans, like black Americans, are not a monolithic group, and pretending that they are is offensive and intellectually lazy. If people, all people regardless of race, creed, national original, sex or sexuality, want a fair world to live in, they will have to take responsibility for creating a fair one in the areas they inhabit. If they don’t, their disingenuous cries are likely to be ignored or avoided. ย Quit it with the victim parade, and be sure you have inspected your own soul for sin before you come bringing stones to my house.

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119 Responses to The Victim Parade (Cross-posted)

  1. Lindsey Folgate up next in the Zimmerman trial. Will likely be last witness of the day. Live stream: http://legalinsurrection.com/2013/06/zimmerman-trial-live-video-day-5-states-witnesses/

  2. mcnorman says:

    No one should feel the least bit sorry for Rachel. She has had the privilege of an education. The fact that she worries more about her fun time (deleted tweets) than bettering herself says it all.

    I learned English as a second language. No one felt the least bit sorry for me. If anything, they offered encouragement everytime I mastered something new. People who feel sorry for Rachel are enablers of the worse kind. They will continue to feed the “victim” mentality. That is criminal. Rachel seems to be perfectly capable of moving on toward a better life.

    • myiq2xu says:

      People who feel sorry for Rachel are enablers of the worse kind.

      ^^This^^

    • myiq2xu says:

      This is from a movie but it is still true:

      Coach Herman Boone: Now I may be a mean cuss. But I’m the same mean cuss with everybody out there on that football field. The world don’t give a damn about how sensitive these kids are, especially the young black kids. You ain’t doin’ these kids a favor by patronizing them. You’re crippling them; You’re crippling them for life.

      • mcnorman says:

        “crippling” is an excellent description of what happens. Once they believe that the world is against them, nothing changes that perception of being a victim.

    • Lulu says:

      Yes he tried to blame it on something else but he did call her “Illiterate, rambling defense witness Rachel Jeantel” and “horrifying, shocking… disturbing”. As well as “makes odd grunting noises and seems to display wild emotional swings, verbal inconsistencies and irrational behavior”. This is your typical proggy who doesn’t go to “that part of town”. When presented evidence of what they champion they have to come up with a new excuse.

      • Mary says:

        So true. They never actually work with the Rachels, or know them day to day; their idealistic view comes from storybooks or their own imagination. Actually watching a Rachel completely blows their minds, so they reach for anything that helps them cope with their disbelief and surprise.

        And Lola…..thank you for bringing out the comparison between the Black Rachels and the white “trailer trash” in the left’s analysis—-one they sympathize with, one they completely ridicule.
        The mind reels that they can’t themselves for what they are.

    • angienc says:

      That’s real retarded, siiiir

  3. myiq2xu says:

    What I find to be mind-boggling is that people DIED for the right to get an education and now the Vile Progs are telling black people that it’s okay to be illiterate and welfare dependent.

    They aren’t enabling failure, they are ENCOURAGING failure!

    • Lulu says:

      It makes them pliable and unable to think for themselves. They can be told what to do. If people can’t reason they are helpless just like they want them to be. Independent thought is DANGEROUS to power.

    • angienc says:

      The KKK wanted to deny black people the right to an education; now the real racists figured out a way to make black people *choose* not to be educated.
      Joke’s on the rest of us.

      • Mary says:

        Yup. And the irony is that most of those KKK’ers were Democrats. And most of those figuring out a way to make black people “choose” not to be educated are ALSO Democrats.

    • DeniseVB says:

      It’s why Allen West, Herman Cain, Ben Carson, E.W. Jackson, Bill Cosby, et al, must be destroyed.

    • wmcb says:

      That’s shocking to me as well. Progs are running all over saying “Shut up, THIS IS NORMAL!!”

      Excuse the fuck out of me, but the last people I saw claiming that it is entirely “normal” for black people to be illiterate, stupid, slovenly, and incapable of understanding Western civilization, culture, and laws was the fucking KKK.

      I am seriously gobsmacked over this. They re actually claiming that this is ok, that this is “her culture”.

      • angienc says:

        You thinking there is any difference between the KKK & the vile progs was your first mistake.

      • Mary says:

        It hasn’t really changed, wmcb.

        In the early and mid-1970’s, I was a very young college graduate teaching in an inner-city Black ghetto school (picture barbed wire all around the exterior fence, to keep neighborhood people off campus, and a full-time policeman on campus).

        It was the period of time Ebonics came into the culture, or at least , the word/phrase and its defense. I was teaching high school English, although most of my students couldn’t read, and what passed for English classes was really reading classes–and we’re talking the Dolch basic sight word list, not SAT prep.

        Principal called the English staff into a meeting advising that Ebonics was “their culture,” and that we younger white teachers needed to understand that, when grading papers, etc. Where the commas go, or whether words were spelled correctly, might matter in our “white culture,” but not so much in the Black culture, so we teachers needed to lighten up and understand that.

        True story.

        • myiq2xu says:

          That’s criminal.

        • Mary says:

          Just re-read my post—-forgot to mention that principal was Black. Perhaps he asked us to lighten up to make his own numbers look better at central office. Don’t know, really.

          But that was the day I knew I was really wasting my time and my efforts. I knew that moment that the Blacks who had succeeded, gotten out of the ghetto, didn’t really give a damn about the kids who were still there.

          Including poseurs like Barak and Michelle Obama.

        • foxyladi14 says:

          OMG!!!! ๐Ÿ™„

        • That is criminal. I make a point of telling my students, “Look, your language skills matter probably more than anything else when you want to move into a professional career. You may not like it, and you may think it’s unfair–heck, I might even agree with you–but you can’t change it. So focus on changing you, at least for the purposes of work and success.”

        • mcnorman says:

          Same shit in Espanol. I always told my students to say F you to anyone who proposed this sh*t. The SAT and the ACT are not in Spanglish. If they wanted to succeed in China, they would have to learn Chinese. No difference here. You march to the drum that will move you out of the ghetto if that is what you desire. La cultura is always an excuse. I referred to it as enslavement at those pc meetups.

      • swanspirit says:

        This is what is what passes for cool among so many young people . Looking ,sounding, and acting “white ” is just not cool .

    • foxyladi14 says:

      Every day. ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

    • Absolutely, 100%! They are encouraging failure and will be giving their jobs to the next wave of illegal immigrants per the Gangof8 bill combined with Obamacare incentives.

  4. angienc says:

    Very good post Lola.

    The digital lynching of Rachel Jeantel is far, far more important than the actual fucking lynching of George Zimmerman, I see from Spike Lee tweeting out what he thought was GZ’s address, to the “hit” the New Black Panthers put on him and the fact that he is wearing a bullet proof vest everyday he leaves his safe house to go to court. Plus, make no mistake, after the prosecution witnesses I’ve seen these last 3 days, this is a real life To Kill a Mockingbird playing out here with the WHITE (Hispanic) in the role of Tom Robinson — anyone not actually watching the trial certainly is being told by the MSM how guilty Zimmerman is by the MSM and even if the fix isn’t in as to the verdict (the judge is certainly doing what she can for a guilty verdict) GZ’s life is over — if convicted, even on a lesser charge, he will not survive an hour in the bullpen; if acquitted, how long is he going to last without police protection?

  5. DeniseVB says:

    Speaking of victimhood, why does Alec Baldwin get a pass and Paula Deen lose her livelihood ? Politics aside, both are Obama supporters, though Alec was an OWS darling even though he shilled for CitiBank (d’oh), I’m also a fan of both.

    http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/alec-baldwin-unleashes-rant-british-writer-article-1.1384816

    Ok, I know this is the battle of the tabloids, but Baldwin didn’t have to be such a dickhead.

    • Intellectual consistency has not been a characteristic of Democrats for a long time, nor vile progs, ever. If it has a dick, votes Dem, and didn’t kill a black person, it’s cool as shit until it stops voting Dem or kills a black person. If it has a vagina, it doesn’t matter what it does, it can’t be cool unless it votes dems and fucks & looks like a porn star. Then it’s tolerable.

    • driguana says:

      Didn’t have to be a dickhead? He is a dickhead.

    • angienc says:

      Gay slurs don’t help Obama in the race wars so they aren’t going to sacrifice a fellow prog over that — duh!

      Plus, the progs don’t really give a fuck about the gays; they just need them for now so will pile on a conservative when they say something akin to what Baldwin did but they don’t really mean it. If they did, they wouldn’t be such supporters of Islam.

      • votermom says:

        from a comment on ace seems germane

        27 How do I get my hands on some of that filthy…

        ….government lucre?

        First, take all your decency, and get rid of it.
        Second, get rid of some other peoples’ too.
        Third, come up with the most insulting idea toward some “victim” group you can.
        Fourth, repackage your insulting idea as being “for” that “victim” group.
        Fifth: profit.

    • Constance says:

      Paula Deen is being attacked because she is an old, fat, woman and that makes her fair game to the progressive men who run media. They are calling Paula’s corporate shunning a “result of the free market” but actually what is a result of the free market is that Paula’s next cook book which isn’t out until fall was the highest selling book on Amazon this week. What these men have done to Paula is character assassination.

      • DeniseVB says:

        I just posted a link downthread, the publisher just canceled her book. What now? ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

        • Constance says:

          She could easily self publish. Even though all the corporations are trying to erase her she isn’t poor. With all the orders she has she should just do her own publishing and cut out the middle men.

      • elliesmom says:

        Food Network’s viewer demographics used to be mostly middle-aged women. Whether we were fat or not can’t be determined from the stats. I know I used to have it on for “background noise” all of the time. But it’s been a long time since I’ve watched anything there. Most of the shows I used to watch on Food Network have long since been replaced with stupid competitions and snoop shows. I still like cooking shows, but I go to PBS for my foodie fix. My point is Paula Deen was one of the few old, fat women to still have a show there. I think they were looking for a reason to boot her off. First by playing up her diabetes, and when that didn’t work, this. Because middle-aged ladies are not their coveted demographic, not because Paula Deen committed an unpardonable sin. However, by choosing a race-based excuse to can her, they opened up a can of salmonella. But with a book that high up the charts pre-publication, someone will publish it. Because it’s a cash cow. People will still flock to her family of restaurants because the food is good. It might take awhile for her to land on her feet, but the vile progs will move on to a new target.

        • Lulu says:

          She does sold out food and cooking shows too. She will continue to do those and make a lot of money. People will continue to pay for her books and appearances.

        • Constance says:

          Food Network viewership is down and it is obvious why. I agree they have switched to food related competitions which are boring. It’s like every channel on the line up hires the same group of brainless young males to make their show into the same vapid genre regardless what subject their channel is supposed to be about so they can attract more males 18-35. We really need cable TV a la carte so we can drop channels that don’t want our demo. I have more purchasing power than any randomly selected group of 5 males 18-35 so it is just blatant sexism that none of the channels want to cater to my demo. I absolutely can’t stand the wonder bra/fake grin Italian babe. Obviously a group of men at Food channel have selected her as the new “leader among women” for us all to aspire to. Good luck with that boys.

    • DeniseVB says:

      Seems the “reporter” got his timestamps confused since he was reading them from the West Coast. Derrrrrrr. Still, Alec, really?

      http://gothamist.com/2013/06/28/alec_baldwin_responds.php

  6. votermom says:

    OT

    • DeniseVB says:

      I’m starting to feel like a media ADD lab rat stuck in a maze of endless cheese treats. We haven’t even started on the kerfuffle that is the Obama 100 million dollar Africa trip. Like that makes us safe because they’re out of country ? Heh. OK, better analogy, I’m a rat terrier stuck in a room full of SQUIRRELS ๐Ÿ˜›

  7. driguana says:

    Don’t generally repost Alex Jones blogs but this one strikes me as pretty relevant.
    http://www.infowars.com/ex-chicago-cop-zimmerman-acquittal-to-cause-race-riots/

    • yttik says:

      I hope not. I still hold onto the idea that vile progs are too chicken sh&t to riot ๐Ÿ™‚

      Seriously, most of the outrage is coming from the self righteous, self important, and very white, progs. Most black people are too busy trying to figure out how to pay for gasoline and groceries to even follow the trial.

      I hope I’m right.

    • elliesmom says:

      If it was Tuesday instead of Friday, I might suggest that’s been the plan all along.

  8. Anthony says:

    Here’s something tasty:

    Obama protesters rally near Mandela’s hospital

    http://news.msn.com/world/obama-protesters-rally-near-mandelas-hospital

  9. gxm17 says:

    Wow. Yet another prosecution witness turned! This is one mind-blowing trial.

  10. DeniseVB says:

    WTF ? Paula’s book publisher dropped her as she was climbing the charts in pre-orders?

    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/paula-deens-1-amazon-best-selling-book-dropped-by-publisher-months-before-release/

  11. HELENK says:

    off topic

    http://ricochet.com/main-feed/After-Windsor-The-Federal-Corporate-Tax-Must-Go

    them DOMA decision may have opened a can of worms on federal corporate tax

  12. DandyTiger says:

    Wow, bombshell at the last second with that medical person. At the very end she said something to the effect that it could easily be possible given the trauma seen, that shooting Martin could have saved Zimmerman’s life. BOOM

    • foxyladi14 says:

      Stand your ground. ๐Ÿ™‚

    • angienc says:

      If state’s 2nd degree murder case is destroyed by their own witnesses and the MSM doesn’t report it does it matter?

    • 1539days says:

      If you’ve ever hit the back of your head on something, it’s a scarily disorienting experience. If some angry guy had me pinned to the ground and repeatedly slammed my head on the ground, that gun in my holster would be the most important thing in the world.

      • Lulu says:

        The prosecution today stressed that Zimmerman wasn’t injured enough. I’m not sure how you can determine ahead of time which blow to the head is going to crack your skull, give brain damage or kill you. Most people protect their heads as a reflex. The prosecutor also snarkily asked the arresting officer if the back of his squad car had a bunch of blood in it when he sat in it. It is one of the strangest prosecutions I have ever seen. Really bizarre inferences that head injuries are little boo-boos. Martin concentrated all of his blows to the head rather than the body which means it was not just a little scuffle.

        • myiq2xu says:

          Self-defense does not require that you first receive any injury. It requires the reasonable fear of imminent death/GBI.

        • Lulu says:

          I know. That is why I find it so bizarre that they would minimize ANY injury. I never worked on any criminal matters but have sat in for parts of some awful murder cases and was a juror once on a murder case many years ago (a prison murder). The younger prosecutor is also the rudest lawyer towards the judge I have ever seen. He would be missing parts of his face and limping if the acted like that to a judge here even an old dopey one.

        • Jadzia says:

          Maybe somebody with a medical background (WCMB?) can chime in here, but this doesn’t even make sense to me from a medical point of view. Don’t head wounds, generally speaking, tend to bleed very profusely, to the extent that the amount of bleeding doesn’t really tell you very much that is useful about the severity of the injury?

          I don’t know, I’m just a lawyer. But I do have a “one more monkey jumping on the bed” ER visit in my recent past.

        • wmcb says:

          Biggest problem with head wounds is not the bleeding from any laceration (which can be profuse- the scalp is very vascular.)

          The problem with head wounds is the bleeding you can get INSIDE your skull from banging your brain around. I’d rather someone pummel and kick me than bang my head. You can cause brain damage just from *shaking* a person hard enough to bounce their brain around, much less banging it on concrete.

          How much he bled is not the indicator of potential severe injury. You don’t die from the scalp lacerations. You die from the subdural hemmorhage and brain swelling.

          • myiq2xu says:

            People die from fistfights all the time. There is also a cumulative effect from blows to the head. Several smaller blows can be just as bad as one big one. “Punch-drunk” is a condition caused by numerous blows to the head over time.

  13. HELENK says:

    http://www.myfoxny.com/story/22718012/millburn-home-invasion-suspect-in-custody

    they caught the sick bastard that broke into a home and beat a mom in front of her 3 year old kid.
    would not want me on jury

  14. yttik says:

    Good post, Lola!

    In the other thread, I suggested that this kind of apathy, hostility, inability to speak English, is not restricted to some black kids like Rachel, it’s crossed all racial lines and become mainstream. Not all teen agers are like that of course, but it has become a part of the dominant culture. We reward that kind of behavior and persecute those who don’t show it.

    It’s probably racist to say this, but I work with some very young men from South Africa. They are so NOT American, it makes me laugh. They hold doors open for you, they speak softly, they bring us brownies at break time. They are so kind and gentle, they stand out like a sore thumb. It takes about two years before they start getting that edge. They want to become Americanized, they want to fit in. The first thing to go is their perfect, soft spoken English. Then they ditch their good manners. Next comes the victim mentality, or rather that sense of entitlement, as if they were being deprived of their due respect and everybody else should be viewed as haven stolen it.

    • lildoggy4u says:

      The Haitian people are some of the nicest, hardest working people I know. Their demeanor is not anything even close to what was displayed by this young woman on the stand. Her mother is probably appalled by what she saw from her daughter. This is typical American influence we witnessed and nothing even close to the natural Haitian background of those people who have come here for a better life. Rachael has been here since she was 2 years old. We have done her no favors and I suspect even she will feel this way when she sees herself and hopefully can turn her life around by getting out of that realm she lives in.

  15. Why am I reminded of the Obama phone lady, Michelle Dowrey, who once she came out against Obama the progs went vile after her:

    • Isn’t she evidence that when someone is educated and sees the ramifications of having worked her way up financially, their reality becomes a different version? Hence, the PTB must keep people like her down.

  16. DeniseVB says:

    via Jake Tapper, so it must be true ๐Ÿ˜‰ Anyhow, I’ve been bitching about DHS’ dirty little secrets for a year or so, and since NSA is reading this too, I will not name names. Tapper has not yet begun to uncover the real problems. It’s not just the IG…..

    http://thelead.blogs.cnn.com/2013/06/28/who-watches-the-watchmen-claims-that-inspector-general-violated-ethics-standards/

  17. DeniseVB says:

    More from Tapper, isn’t this the little girl that was the first victim test of the Death Panel…..?

    http://thelead.blogs.cnn.com/2013/06/28/10-yr-old-survives-2-lung-transplants/

  18. 1539days says:

    The danger with the government giving things to people, including assistance, is that people come to rely on it. If you rely on it, you need the government to give you enough to live on when you stop using it as assistance. When the politicians figure out that they can use government handouts to bribe voters, the handouts grow.

    Now that the feds don’t have enough revenue to pay for what they already give away, they need new sources to keep the gravy train going. Do you know why food stamps are part of the Department of Agriculture? The government was buying food from farmers as a giveaway to them and then using the food as a giveaway to the poor. Now we do it with ethanol, which is expensive to produce and transport, plus it gives you worse mileage.

    • myiq2xu says:

      I would give welfare recipients make-work jobs rather than let them get paid to do nothing.

      Make them dig holes in the morning and fill them in after lunch. No work, no pay.

      • 1539days says:

        It’s kind of wasteful, but it would turn it into an alternative employment program rather than a handout. At least until the vile progs complain about how “demeaning” it is to do a job with no results or about the environmental damage caused by stabbing the earth with a shovel.

        • votermom says:

          Didn’t FDR do this stuff with WPA?

        • Lulu says:

          Yes and the men learned how to work together as well as many other trades. One of my friend’s father was a master brick mason which he learned in the WPA. He was an orphan and shuffled among poor relatives until he landed there. He was never unemployed again. His son manufactures bricks.

      • You don’t even need to go that far. There’s shit that needs to get done. Require them to do it.

        • lildoggy4u says:

          Our National Park System was built through the WPA. I bet many would jump at the chance to aquire skillsets and self esteem it would provide. But it would make those same people independent and the gov’t can’t have that.

      • Jadzia says:

        EXACTLY, Lulu. While there’s something to be said for the benefits of even a make-work job in terms of teaching employment skills generally (things like showing up on time, appropriate interpersonal skills in the workplace, etc.), how about a more modern make-work program like making people learn how to code, or build a Website in the morning and modify it in the afternoon, or run a cafeteria making and serving meals to the food-stamp eligible, or, or… there are lots of possibilities.

    • lildoggy4u says:

      Ethanol is a crime against humanity.

  19. votermom says:

    Let’s see if this gets the vileprogs wee-weed up ๐Ÿ˜€

    • Jadzia says:

      I am totally going to hell for laughing about this (poor bird), but it does really sound like something straight out of Monty Python or Mel Brooks. (Crash! “…the TEN Commandments!”)

  20. HELENK says:

    Benghazi special on Fox now

  21. piper says:

    Lola, good thread.

    myiq – Even though we’re a dog family, we’re happy to hear that you have a new kitty to love and play with – Enjoy

    • myiq2xu says:

      Catness seems to be adjusting well. I took a nap and she jumped up on the bed and snuggled with me.

      I don’t think they were feeding her enough at the shelter. She gobbles her food like a hungry dog.

      • votermom says:

        I hope we get a Catness pic!
        maybe she’d appreciate a Caterday open thread ๐Ÿ™‚

        • Jadzia says:

          +1! I am SO MISSING having pets right now. Our English neighbors moved away this morning, and I discovered that I have become really attached to their sweet dog, who was accustomed to walking right into my house and helping himself to whatever the kids dropped on the floor. Caterday (or a dogday) would DEFINITELY be welcome.

      • angienc says:

        I’m glad Catness is adjusting. I’m also happy you went with an adult cat (they’re so much harder to get adopted out).

      • Underwhelmed says:

        That’s wonderful to hear. I hope you and she go gangbusters together.

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