You Lost, Get Over It!

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LA Times:

Sponsors of Prop. 8 file petition to stop same-sex marriages

ProtectMarriage, the sponsors of Proposition 8, filed an emergency petition to the U.S. Supreme Court on Saturday to stop same-sex marriages from continuing in California.

The petition says the decision by the U.S. 9th Circuit Court of Appeals to permit weddings starting Friday afternoon was “premature.”

“When the Ninth Circuit originally put in place its stay to prevent same-sex marriage pending Supreme Court action, it stated clearly that ‘the stay shall continue until final disposition by the Supreme Court,’ ” the group said in a written statement.

“Under Supreme Court procedural rules, ‘final disposition’ comes when the Supreme Court issues a ‘mandate’ to the Ninth Circuit, at least 25 days after announcing its opinion in the case. The 25-day waiting period is provided to allow parties such as Prop. 8’s proponents to petition the Supreme Court for a re-hearing of the case.”

Justice Anthony Kennedy, who wrote Wednesday’s decision that gutted the anti-gay marriage Defense of Marriage Act, usually decides such petitions from California.

“People on both sides of this debate should at least agree that the courts must follow their own rules,” said Andy Pugno, chief counsel for ProtectMarriage. “This kind of lawlessness just further weakens the public’s confidence in the legitimacy of our legal system. We hope the Supreme Court will step in and restore some order here.”

On Friday, the appeals court bypassed a normal waiting period in lifting a hold on a trial judge’s order that declared Proposition 8 unconstitutional.


Supporters of Proposition 8 were furious that the 9th Circuit acted before the normal waiting period. ProtectMarriage, the sponsors of the ballot measure, has 25 days from the ruling to ask for reconsideration.

“It is part and parcel of the utter lawlessness in which this whole case has been prosecuted,” Chapman University constitutional law professor John Eastman said. “Normally, courts let the parties kind of pursue their legal remedies before they issue a mandate.”

He said the 25-day period for asking the Supreme Court to reconsider still applied, and a rehearing, though extremely unlikely, remained a technical possibility.

“Tonight it is chaos and lawlessness, and anyone who is concerned about the rule of law ought to be deeply troubled by what happened here,” Eastman said.

Look guys, I understand. Change is hard. It was a long time coming but same-sex marriage is an idea whose time has finally come.

You lost, get over it!

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65 Responses to You Lost, Get Over It!

  1. myiq2xu says:

    In case you were wondering, this is what Jeebus had to say about homosexuality:

  2. Lulu says:

    Our local paper featured a young couple who went to LA for their wedding ceremony. She was featured in a tuxedo and she was featured in a wedding dress and veil. They looked very happy and were going to Disneyland. They met last year working second shift at IHOP. One of their grandpa’s paid for the trip which I thought was a very nice thing to do. The newspaper features some of their human interest stories on their Facebook page. The comments were the usual litany of “why are they both fat?”, “I’ve never seen them at IHOP” and “they have every right to be as miserable as the rest of us”. In other words the idea of same sex marriage is accepted and the reaction to the young lesbian couple was far nicer than one of our brides who put the photo of herself in the paper with her dog and no groom.

    • DeniseVB says:

      Except for the fringe-whingers on the right (the Jeebus rollers), I see no problems in conservativeland with the repeal of DOMA.

      What I don’t understand, DOMA was Clinton’s baby, yet no one noticed it could be unconstitutional right away? It took this long ? And it survived the Bush years?

      • elliesmom says:

        The repeal of DOMA didn’t change things all that much.The federal government has to recognize marriages recognized by the state in which they were performed. But states still don’t have to allow same sex marriage, and they don’t have to recognize marriages performed out of state. Married same sex people can now collect spousal benefits from social security and file joint income taxes, which matters a lot to those couples living in states where they can get married, but isn’t much of a boon to those living in states where they cannot. There’s the added question of now that the Supreme Court has ruled that deciding on who can marry and who cannot is under the jurisdiction of the states and not the federal government, could the congress even pass a lot granting same sex couples the right to marry everywhere in the US? This ruling may actually have been more of a win for the conservative right.

      • Constance says:

        No one noticed it was unconstitutional because it is OK for Democrats to violate the Constitution if the feel like it. Especially if they are ONLY violating states rights. Everyone knows that the east coast liberals know what is best for the entire country that is why God made them elite.

  3. votermom says:

    OT Egypt

  4. DeniseVB says:

    OT: The Deen story gets curiouser and curiouser …..

    Sounds like the young lady who’s suing her is being used by a blood thirsty attorney. We know very little about the details of this case yet she’s being dropped like a hot potato by businesses who have made millions off of her.

    • if they are trying to extort money from Deen, it’s backfired. She might end up not having any for them to get…..

      • DeniseVB says:

        I don’t understand the rush to drop her without knowing all the details.

        Ina Garten (The Barefoot Contessa) dissed a Make-A-Wish kid saying she didn’t have time. It turned out to be really, really bad PR for her, but she didn’t lose a dime … or her job at Food Network.

        • elliesmom says:

          You know, I’ve had personal experience with Make-A-Wish. I wouldn’t doubt for a second the kid’s mother wanted to meet Ina, and the kid had no idea who she is. lol The organization gets a lot of “free stuff” donated to them, and if what you want is something they have, a kid can “wish” for it. But there are a lot of hoops to jump through if what you want isn’t a trip to DisneyWorld. My son was 17 when he was diagnosed with cancer. Make-A-Wish visited him when he was alone in his hospital room and offered him a trip to DisneyWorld, but what 17 year old wants a trip to DisneyWorld with his parents even if he’s really sick? He asked if he could take 2 of his friends instead, one of them over 21, and the lady was aghast at the idea. So being my kid, he asked for a puppy instead. No sarcasm genes in this one. lol Elliesdad and I got a lovely letter from Make-A-Wish explaining to us that for legal liability reasons, they were unable to provide children with pets. This was the first we had even heard of MAW contacting our son so he had some splaining to do. But one of the nurses had overheard Rob ask for the puppy, and she brought him the dearest little beagle and tucked under his sheets. Turned out it was a great gift for a kid who was really sick. I loved the puppy, too. I was just glad he didn’t ask for a pony.

        • votermom says:

          The nurse gave him a puppy … I’m tearing up.

        • DeniseVB says:

          elliesmom …. I too thought of the mother’s “wish”. I would have been suspect even it was the father’s wish if the boy chose Giada De Laurentiis 😉

        • elliesmom says:

          I don’t want to leave the story unfinished. Rob survived his cancer. He’s the one who runs the Boston Marathon for Dana Farber. He took the puppy with him when he got married. She died last year after a long and happy life. Rob made me a tin foil hat to wear to my birthday dinner last night. You know how when you have kids, sometimes one is like you and the other is like your husband? This one’s mine. Drives me crazy to have to deal with myself.

        • Lulu says:

          “like dealing with yourself” is a perfect explanation of it. My mother always said she loved me because I was so much like my father who she also loved which as a child I thought was very weird. But now I have to deal with a son and a daughter who act like my father which is really like me! One son apparently acts and thinks like his other grandpa. I’m so confused. But I know what you mean. LOL.

        • votermom says:

          He’s the one who runs the Boston Marathon for Dana Farber.

          Is Rob the one who was almost at the explosion, but luckily got hungry and went off to eat?

    • votermom says:

      • Lulu says:

        Who makes the list of who is allowed to use which pejoratives. Is it a committee or something? Or do they just make up up on the fly? Since I am over age 55 can I still call someone a bugger eater or am I too tld for that now?

    • HELENK says:

      I would have the jackson woman and her lawyer investigated back to the stone age, along with everyone they ever talked to. I would burn money before she got a dime and I would make sure she never got another job
      she has caused public humiliation and economic damage to a woman that never did a damn thing to her but give her a job..
      I might lose, but I would be damned before she would win.
      she and her lawyer wanted to play, I would she her how it is done.
      Paula Deen is a more forgiving person then I am

  5. myiq2xu says:

    Are strawberry waffles still breakfast food if you ran out of waffles and just eat the strawberries buried in Cool Whip?

  6. DandyTiger says:

    In local overreaction by authorities news:

    When a half-dozen men and a woman in street clothes closed in on University of Virginia student Elizabeth Daly, 20, she and two roommates panicked.

    That led to Daly spending a night and an afternoon in the Albemarle-Charlottesville Regional Jail. Her initial offense? Walking to her car with bottled water, cookie dough and ice cream just purchased from the Harris Teeter in the Barracks Road Shopping Center for a sorority benefit fundraiser.

    A group of state Alcoholic Beverage Control agents clad in plainclothes approached her, suspecting the blue carton of LaCroix sparkling water to be a 12-pack of beer. Police say one of the agents jumped on the hood of her car. She says one drew a gun. Unsure of who they were, Daly tried to flee the darkened parking lot.

    “They were showing unidentifiable badges after they approached us, but we became frightened, as they were not in anything close to a uniform,” she recalled Thursday in a written account of the April 11 incident.

    “I couldn’t put my windows down unless I started my car, and when I started my car they began yelling to not move the car, not to start the car. They began trying to break the windows. My roommates and I were … terrified,” Daly stated.

    • DandyTiger says:

      Yep, drawn guns and jumping on cars is perfectly reasonable reaction towards someone suspected of getting beer while under age.

      • votermom says:

        Beerorists disguised as college students.

      • DeniseVB says:

        LOL, I was stuck on

        “I couldn’t put my windows down unless I started my car…

        Bet she could play her radio without starting the car? Seriously, it does sound like an overreaction by the police, but a young lady at UVA should know how to work her windows without starting the car. 😀

        • DandyTiger says:

          I’m going to guess that having people with drawn guns on top of her car didn’t help her think clearly. But yeah, of course you can open your windows without starting your car. Kids don’t seem to be getting smarter do they.

        • votermom says:

          I can’t open the windows on my car unless I at least half-turn the key.

        • yttik says:

          LOL, okay, but seriously, I can’t roll down my windows without starting my car! And cops get all huffy if you try to start your car because they think you’re going to drive off. They really freak out if you try to open your door.

  7. votermom says:

    Catholic priest beheaded by Obama-backed Syrian rebels.

    It’s disgusting to see the the photo of men eager to take photos / videos of the beheadings.

    • myiq2xu says:

      If I was at a beheading I would take pictures. Otherwise nobody would believe me. I could win some bets too.

      Me: “I saw a beheading once”

      Friend: “Oh bullshit”

      Me: “I’ll bet you $10”

      Friend: “Prove it”

  8. yttik says:

    I’m not opposed to gay marriage and I support the legal process, but I’m really against this, “you lost, get over it” thing. People have a right to petition our courts, to express their grievances, to organize and gather. That’s one of the tools you have in a democracy. The alternative is to riot in the streets, take up arms against the gov, etc. Instead we try to give people a voice, somewhere to go to wage their battles.

    • myiq2xu says:

      I don’t have a problem with people fighting for what they believe in, even if I disagree with their cause.

      The fight for gay marriage was won by SSM supporters in the state courts with the Cal. Supremes ruling in their favor.

      So the opponents of SSM took it to the ballot box via a proposition. They won (I voted against Prop H8).

      So the supporters of SSM took Prop H8 to court and won when SCOTUS ruled in favor of SSM. They also tossed out DOMA in another case decided the same day.

      What the opponents of SSM are doing now is vexatious litigation. They aren’t raising any new claims or legal issues. SCOTUS is not going to change their minds in the next 25 days (they are on vacay).

      It’s time to let it go.

      The legislature won’t fight this. If they did Gov. Moonbeam would veto it. SSM opponents can try for a new ballot proposition next November but unless they can craft one that passes SCOTUS muster it will quickly be struck down.

      • angienc says:

        One point –although I haven’t read the actual SCOTUS ruling, it’s my understanding they tossed the Prop 8 case out based on standing, which puts the district court’s ruling back in place — that’s not ruling in favor of SSM and your contention that a “new” Prop 8 on the ballot would have to pass SCOTUS muster is wrong as SCOTUS did not rule on the actual proposition itself, merely the standing on the Prop 8 supporters to bring the case.

        Also, since we’re talking about this: only the federal benefits section of DOMA was tossed out, not DOMA itself in the other case. (i.e., if a state allows SSM, the Federal government must allow the same benefits to those SSM spouses as opposite sex spouses, re: federal income tax, SSI benefits, etc). While certainly helpful to proponents of SSM, I would hesitate to characterize this as a ruling “in favor of SSM” as the court left the issue of whether SSM was allowed in the hands of the state (i.e., it isn’t the same as the ruling in Loving v. VA re: states had to allow people of different races to marry).

        And before anyone accusing me of being a H8er — I’m talking about what the SCOTUS opinions actually were, not expressing any views of my own — ONE WAY OR ANOTHER — on SSM.

  9. HELENK says:

    since parsing words is the thing to do these days. the ruling says same sex, not same species marriage. could a male person marry a male animal under this rule? what is to stop them other than the cruelty to animals laws?

    • wmcb says:

      Concerns about animal marriage are just silly. Sorry, but they are. There is nothing in law that indicates an animal can enter into ANY sort of contract, and marriage is, so far as the state is concerned, a contract. However, the idea that if gay marriage is legal, there is not a leg to stand on to outlaw polygamy is indeed true.

      The same legal reasoning that justifies gay marriage can easily justify polygamy: consentling adults, not hurting anyone else, so none of your business. There is no argument against polygamy that is not the same defeated argument against gay marriage. I.e. the only argument is a “traditional social fabric” argument. We’ve already decided as a society that this argument is irrelevant.

      • Wanda says:

        Um, except the fact that people aren’t born polygamous you moron bigot.

        • myiq2xu says:

          They aren’t born monogamous either.

        • wmcb says:

          How do you know? What if they say they have desired multiple partners all their life, and that’s what makes them happy and fulfilled? You can’t prove that gay people are born gay, either – other than the fact that many say they are, and I believe them. Polygamy has existed in human history forever, and many societies functioned just fine with it.

          And how am I bigoted? I’m not against gay marriage, at all. Just pointing out that it’s sort of hard to argue that polygamy should be illegal if gay marriage is okay. I mean, you CAN, but the arguments are the same as those against gay marriage. So do you have an actual argument, or are you just throwing feces? Or are YOU the bigot, because you recoil with revulsion at the lifestyle habits of people (polygamists) who are different from you?

  10. foxyladi14 says:

    Some of the, old time Cowboys were always kissin the Horses. :lol; 😆

  11. John Denney says:

    In other news, Vancouver is experiencing an epidemic of syphilis, after nearly eradicating the disease. The epidemic is among MSM, with 60% of them also infected with HIV.

    Same sex marriage helps legitimize men having sex with men, which is a really bad idea.
    Stuck in the Denver airport for 8 hours waiting for a weather-delayed connection, I wandered into the news stand and noticed a magazine rack labeled, “Mens Interest”. The top two shelves were all skin mags like Playboy and Penthouse. I wondered if there were a magazine rack labeled, “Womens Interest”, and there was indeed. The magazines in its two top shelves all had titles containing some form of one of two words: bride or wedding. This backs up the old adage that women are looking for Mr. Right, and men are looking for Miss Right Now. I’ve not heard of women congregating in a bath house for multiple same-sex partners in an evening, but men do.

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