Obama’s Official Talking Points On Egypt

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Obama interrupted his important vacation in Africa to address a minor kerfluffle:

“As I have said since the Egyptian Revolution, the United States supports a set of core principles, including opposition to violence, protection of universal human rights, and reform that meets the legitimate aspirations of the people. The United States does not support particular individuals or political parties, but we are committed to the democratic process and respect for the rule of law. Since the current unrest in Egypt began, we have called on all parties to work together to address the legitimate grievances of the Egyptian people, in accordance with the democratic process, and without recourse to violence or the use of force.

“The United States is monitoring the very fluid situation in Egypt, and we believe that ultimately the future of Egypt can only be determined by the Egyptian people. Nevertheless, we are deeply concerned by the decision of the Egyptian Armed Forces to remove President Morsy and suspend the Egyptian constitution. I now call on the Egyptian military to move quickly and responsibly to return full authority back to a democratically elected civilian government as soon as possible through an inclusive and transparent process, and to avoid any arbitrary arrests of President Morsy and his supporters. Given today’s developments, I have also directed the relevant departments and agencies to review the implications under U.S. law for our assistance to the Government of Egypt.

“The United States continues to believe firmly that the best foundation for lasting stability in Egypt is a democratic political order with participation from all sides and all political parties —secular and religious, civilian and military. During this uncertain period, we expect the military to ensure that the rights of all Egyptian men and women are protected, including the right to peaceful assembly, due process, and free and fair trials in civilian courts. Moreover, the goal of any political process should be a government that respects the rights of all people, majority and minority; that institutionalizes the checks and balances upon which democracy depends; and that places the interests of the people above party or faction. The voices of all those who have protested peacefully must be heard – including those who welcomed today’s developments, and those who have supported President Morsy. In the interim, I urge all sides to avoid violence and come together to ensure the lasting restoration of Egypt’s democracy.

“No transition to democracy comes without difficulty, but in the end it must stay true to the will of the people. An honest, capable and representative government is what ordinary Egyptians seek and what they deserve. The longstanding partnership between the United States and Egypt is based on shared interests and values, and we will continue to work with the Egyptian people to ensure that Egypt’s transition to democracy succeeds.

In other news, Osama bin Laden is dead and al Qaeda is on the run.”

Okay, I made up that last part.

Is it just me or does it seem like Obama is miffed that the Egyptians didn’t ask his permission before kicking his Muzzy buddy to the curb?

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48 Responses to Obama’s Official Talking Points On Egypt

  1. Why do you ask questions to which you already know the answer? {{sarc}}

  2. wmcb says:

    It’s not just you. And tweet that or I will.

  3. Mary says:

    Participation from all sides and all parties?

    You mean, like how Obama and the Dems passed Obamacare?

    Just shut up, Obama. It’s THEIR country, and they now identify YOU with supporting Morsi and the Muslim Brotherhood.

  4. wmcb says:

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  7. yttik says:

    “… I now call on the Egyptian military to move quickly and responsibly to return full authority back to a democratically elected civilian government as soon as possible through an inclusive and transparent process, and to avoid any arbitrary arrests of President Morsy and his supporters….”

    Obama seems to have forgotten that in a true democracy, the people always have the right to throw out their leaders and start over. It’s called a revolution. One of our founding fathers even recommended we try it every few years or so.

    Also, in America we hold fast to some of the ideals put forth in the Posse Comitatus Act. You never use the military to “return full authority” to the government because it’s an accepted fact in the US that the government serves at the will of the people. If so many people are against you, you have to use military force to defend your authority, than it’s not a democracy.

    • myiq2xu says:

      If so many people are against you, you have to use military force to defend your authority, than it’s not a democracy.

      I would quibble a little. Temporary, localized use of military force might be needed, as in the Whiskey Rebellion. But if you have to “occupy” your own country you have a problem.

      For democracy to work it takes more than majority rule, it also requires minority consent. Think back to 2000 and Bush v. Gore. How many countries would have needed the military to keep order after something like that? For most of our history we’ve been able to work out our differences and disagreements peacefully.

      • yttik says:

        Kind of funny, but I think the Whiskey Rebellion AND the government’s response to it, is what helped lead to the creation of the Republican party and the whiskey tax was repealed as soon as they came into power. I guess that’s how it works, you can get your way temporarily with military force, but in a genuine democracy, the people will eventually throw you out.

  8. driguana says:

    Personally, I think it’s a pyramid scheme.

  9. myiq2xu says:

    The White House pushed dirt on Darrell Issa, book says

    In the summer of 2010, with Republicans poised to take over the House and Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Calif.) in line to lead the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, the White House started urging reporters to write negative stories about the congressman’s past, a new book says.

    New York Times reporter Mark Leibovich describes what he says were the anti-Issa efforts in “This Town,” a condemnation of Washington self-obsession and self-promotion, a copy of which was obtained by the Washington Post.

    According to Leibovich, former Obama deputy press secretary Bill Burton and suggested the reporter look into Issa’s past.

    But the White House would never use government agencies to dig dirt on people, would they?

  10. wmcb says:

  11. 49erDweet says:

    And with such an interesting and important trial going on in Florida, there is absolutely no truth to the rumor the nation of Austria in essence kidnapped the president of Bolivia, who at the time was flying overhead in a state plane on a state mission, and forced him to land in Austria so the Austrians could be good lapdogs and search the Bolivian plane for a person backtrack is scared to death of. And who wasn’t there. You just can’t make this stuff up. What was it started WWIII again?

    • insanelysane says:

      Oh pish!
      Snowden is just a 29 yr old hacker. Obama’s not worried. O’s NSA has the goods on just about everyone in his way.

      Portugal and France perhaps are also doing his bidding.

    • wmcb says:

      I disagree with some of that, but totally agree with some.

      Evidently the PC police are causing all sorts of problems in the SciFi world of late. And as usual what started as genuine concern to address genuine harassment gets taken over by the New Fainting Victorians who proceed to schoolmarm and demand and lecture everyone to death about perfectly normal human behavior. It’s ridiculous. Some of these people want to make the world a vast kindergarten, where we are all wrapped in cotton wool and run away crying to the teacher over any unpleasantness. “You will blow me or you don’t get the promotion” is harassment. Some geek making a pass at you, however awkward or even rude, is not.

      Female scifi author Sarah Hoyt takes them to task on her blog. I don’t 100% agree with her either, but she is fucking hilarious, as are some of her commenters:


    • wmcb says:

      The bit about voting, I’m not sure if the Vox dude really means that (if so he’s dead wrong), or if he is being deliberately over-the-top provocative just to tweak her and her poor poor feelings.

      Here’s the deal: anytime you decide to start using victim status (whether it’s race, sex, or whatever) to manipulate others in a some kind of passive aggressive power play, you WILL eventually get backlash. Look at history. It is GOING to happen. And often the backlash is just as vicious and overboard as the initial bullshit was. Not saying that’s right. But it is what it is.

      Reasonable adults realize this, and when righting wrongs they seek justice and basic equality and stop there. Push it past that point into gleeful guilt manipulation and retribution? Start getting off on the fact that you can make your former oppressor jump through hoops? It’s gonna get real ugly real fast. Because even people of good will won’t take that shit for long.

      People never learn. Have they read any history? Have they never sat and just observed human nature, and what human beings invariably do?

      • DandyTiger says:

        I’m going to hold my breath until you take that all back.

        • wmcb says:

          LOL! Look, I don’t like the fact that human beings are what they are. I wish with all my heart that we were more angelic creatures. I don’t like the fact that it’s all so fucking predictable.

          But I face it and deal. You know why? Because I’m not a goddamned six year old, that’s why.

        • wmcb says:

          Also, too often the biggest problem with being a Cassandra is that when you say “X is going to happen”, people treat you as if you said “I’m all in favor of X happening. Yay X!”


        • DandyTiger says:

          “X is going to happen” — see, there is a use for algebra in the real world. 🙂

      • underwhelmed says:

        Clearly no. Which is beyond tedious.

    • yttik says:

      Oh, now that’s a can of worms! It also explains why we have the mommy wars and why women are often our own worst enemies. This girl says she doesn’t want to serve a man…implying that those of us who have husbands or children are servants who have less value then she does. That’s pretty insulting.

      Recently I went to an early morning meeting and there was no coffee, so I made some. I didn’t think anything of it until this woman looked at me and said smugly, “I didn’t get an education so I could make people coffee.” Well, F- you, lady! Seriously, I wanted to grab her by her hair and throw her somewhere.

      • angienc says:

        Seems to me she still doesn’t have much of an education if she goes around saying stupid shit like that.

      • leslie says:

        14 years ago, when I began my current clinical social work position (after incurring enormous debt in student loans), the nurse who shared the office with me and two others said (to me – not others who had been there longer), “Answer that phone! I didn’t go to nursing school so I could answer telephones”. She hasn’t changed much since then. She recently told me I am “toxic” to work with, and that I am the reason she’s retiring at the end of the summer after she takes 4 weeks vacation.
        (Btw, the phone calls were almost always for her as she had many kids who called her frequently at work)
        I still shake my head at the many insults this woman has sent my way.

  12. insanelysane says:

    I tried to read the transcript of Obama’s wise pronouncements, but all I got was
    “Blah,blah,blah. “

  13. myiq2xu says:

    This could be me;

    I was in London, squinting out my kitchen window at a distant helicopter, when a sales rep phoned from some overseas call center. “Mr. Sedriz?” he asked. “Is that who I have the pleasure of addressing?”…

    “I am hoping this morning to interest you in a cell phone,” he announced. “But not just any cell phone! This one takes pictures that you can send to your friends.”

    “I’m sorry,” I told him. “But I don’t have any friends.”

    He chuckled. “No, but seriously, Mr. Sedriz, this new camera phone is far superior to the one you already have.”

    When I told him I didn’t already have one, he said, “All the better!”

    “No,” I said, “I don’t want one. I don’t need it.”

    “How can you not need a cell phone?”

    “Because nobody ever calls me?”

    “Well, how can they?” he argued.

  14. Erica says:

    It’s a sure sign that Obama is miffed when he starts a sentence with “As I’ve said,” “As I’ve explained,” or “As I’ve made clear many times (except you idiots are too dense to understand).”

    He’s president petulant. And I bet nothing makes him madder than seeing one of the brotherhood get the oust. Expect narcissistic rage any moment now…..

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