Overnight Open Thread


I’m gonna go watch the neighbors set off fireworks.

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  1. myiq2xu says:
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  4. HELENK says:

    It looks like Egypt might be another Syria. I hope backtrack has enough sense to stay out of both. There is no win for us in either fight.

    I keep thinking that ben laden wanted to destroy this country economically. that is why he went for the world trade towers. How much of our money has gone to the ME since 2001? seems like his idea is working

  5. myiq2xu says:
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    Starvation is the unstated subject of yesterday’s military coup. For the past several months, the bottom half of Egypt’s population has had little to eat besides government-subsidized bread, and now the bread supply is threatened by a shortage of imported wheat. Despite $8 billion of aid from Qatar and smidgens from Libya, Turkey, and others, Egypt is struggling to meet a financing gap of perhaps $20 billion a year, made worse by the collapse of its major cash earner — the tourist industry. Malnutrition is epidemic in the form of extreme protein deficiency in a country where 40% of the adult population is already “stunted” by poor diet, according to the World Food Program. It is not that hard to get 14 million people into the streets if there is nothing to eat at home.

    Nearly half of Egyptians are illiterate. Seventy percent of them live on the land, yet the country imports half its food. Its only cash-earning industry, namely tourism, is in ruins. Sixty years of military dictatorship has left it with college graduates unfit for the world market, and a few t-shirt factories turning Asian polyester into cut-rate exports. It cannot feed itself and it cannot earn enough to feed itself, as I have explained in a series of recent articles. Someone has to subsidize them, or a lot of them will starve. Unlike Mexico, Egypt can’t ship its rural poor to industrial nations in the north.

    Egypt’s people embraced the military because they remember that the military used to feed them. In fact, the military probably can alleviate the food crisis, because — unlike the Muslim Brotherhood– Egypt’s generals should be able to count on the support of Saudi Arabia. Saudi King Abdullah Bin Abdul Aziz congratulated Egypt’s military-appointed interim president on Wednesday night, while the United Arab Emirates expressed “satisfaction” at the course of events. Only the crazy Emir of Qatar, the patron of al-Jazeera television and an assortment of Islamist ideologues, had backed the Brotherhood — and his son replaced him last week. The Saudi monarchy hates the Brotherhood the way Captain Hook hated the crocodile: it is the only political force capable of overthrowing the monarchy and replacing it.

  7. myiq2xu says:


    “I had decided that I would go to my grave never telling anyone what I had done.”

    “Recently, a friend became pregnant after a one-night stand. Everyone assumes that was an accident, but she confided in me that she had been seeking out sex with the purpose of getting pregnant. I was so relieved to meet someone else who planned an ‘accidental’ pregnancy that it made me wonder if I should open up about my secret.”

    From a letter to the advice columnist Prudie. I haven’t yet read Prudie’s answer. I just want to say that this woman imagines that she’s found her counterpart in this other woman, but she hasn’t. The letter-writer deceived a man with whom she had a serious relationship, letting him think she was still on contraceptive pills, and she’s clung to her secret for many years, including from the man she married. She’s kept the old boyfriend and the husband in the dark even as she’s involved both of them in the upbringing of the child. That’s years of hardcore deceit. This other lady is sleeping around with men she doesn’t seem to care much about. And who knows what she told them about birth control? And she was apparently ready to blab about it as soon as the pregnancy happened. She’s out and proud. It’s way too late to emulate her. She’s nothing like you.

  8. HELENK says:


    here is a man that does appreciate the freedom that is America

  9. 49erDweet says:

    Once again the Klown is prescient. On an earlier thread he showed what happened at a fireworks show last year in San Diego, and tonight it looks like Simi Valley had
    another fireworks mishap.

  10. myiq2xu says:

    Fishing buddies

    Two men are out just quietly fishing & drinking beer.

    Almost silently, so as not to scare the fish, Bob says,
    “I think I’m gonna divorce my wife. She hasn’t spoken to me in over 2 months.”

    Charles continues slowly sipping his beer then thoughtfully says, “You better think it over, Bob. Women like that are hard to find.”

  11. DeniseVB says:

    They finally got photos, John Kerry WAS in Nantucket afterall 😀


    Wonder why they kept denying it and saying he was in DC ? Now we’re told he’s talked to Obama on the phone as proof he “can be SoS from anywhere in the worrrrrrrld”. Oh, and he deserves some time off for his hard work making peace in the world ! Riiiiiight.

    Doesn’t he have concern for his diplomats in harm’s way? Is a yacht the best place to moniter the situation from? Dumb optic JK.

  12. DeniseVB says:

    Trayvon’s mom said that was her son’s scream on the audio ? I thought that was inadmissible because “experts” couldn’t i.d. the voice?

    • leslie says:

      Why aren’t GZ’s parents allowed in the courtroom?
      I’m certain there is an answer to this questions that I missed one day while I was at work…

      • Nelson ruled that because they MAY be called as witnesses by the state, they weren’t allowed. As it turns out, the state is wrapping up their case today without calling them. Surprise, surprise. I wonder if they will be allowed back in once the defense starts presenting.

        • Mary says:

          So? Trayvon’s mom was called as a witness for the state, and she was there in the courtroom the whole time.

          Why the different rules for GZ’s parents?

        • leslie says:

          Ooh, thanks. But SM is allowed, why? So one person MAY be called and the other one IS called. There is no end to the manipulation in this trial. And even so, Andrew Branca (at LI) says the defense is winning. I wouldn’t bet the house on it.

        • leslie says:

          Okay. I just read the rest of these comments and was enlightened. They are STILL usikng the innocent Trayvon photos on teevee.

        • It’s different because Florida law protects the rights of parents of alleged victims to be in the court room. By law they could not be excluded. GZ’s parents have no such protections.

          I am just relaying the law, and my opinion is that the judge took advantage of it to deny GZ support in the courtroom, and to deny the jury the opportunity to develop sympathy for him. As I said down-thread, the judge is looking pretty nuts throughout this trial. She’s a judge, though, so she has a lot of leeway to be pretty nutty. And O’Mara and West appear to be provoking her in some cases to lay a foundation to have the case overturned in the event of conviction, which would seem pretty smart maneuvering. However, I am not a lawyer, and that’s just my opinion.

    • wmcb says:

      Wait, Martin’s mom is on the stand? She was called as a witness?

      • lyn says:

        Yep. She is testifying that it was Martin who screamed for help.

      • SOP. What’s telling is that Mr. Martin was not called. He had more direct information than Fulton. The jury will likely note that.

        FTR, to clear up any suspicions, the “victim’s” family cannot be excluded from the courtroom in FL, not even if they are called as witnesses.

        • Mary says:

          Mr. Martin, when he first heard the tape (earlier than the family meeting with Travon’s mom there to hear the tape), said he didn’t think it was his son’s voice.

          That’s why the state didn’t call him.

        • Among other reasons, certainly.

  13. yttik says:

    This was posted over at Uppity’s. One of my favorite renditions ever:

  14. swanspirit says:

    Caroline Glick on Egypt’s second revolution http://www.carolineglick.com/e/2013/07/israels-reviled-strategic-wisd.php

    On Wednesday, Egypt had its second revolution in as many years. And there is no telling how many more revolutions it will have in the coming months, or years. This is the case not only in Egypt, but throughout the Islamic world.

    The American foreign policy establishment’s rush to romanticize as the Arab Spring the political instability that engulfed the Arab world following the self-immolation of a Tunisian peddler in December 2010 was perhaps the greatest demonstration ever given of the members of that establishment’s utter cluelessness about the nature of Arab politics and society. Their enthusiastic embrace of protesters who have now brought down President Mohamed Morsi and his Muslim Brotherhood regime indicates that it takes more than a complete repudiation of their core assumptions to convince them to abandon them.

    US reporters and commentators today portray this week’s protests as the restoration of the Egyptian revolution. That revolution, they remain convinced, was poised to replace long-time Egyptian leader and US-ally Hosni Mubarak with a liberal democratic government led by people who used Facebook and Twitter.

    Subsequently, we were told, that revolution was hijacked by the Muslim Brotherhood. But now that Morsi and his government have been overthrown, the Facebook revolution is back on track.

    And again, they are wrong.

    As was the case in 2011, the voices of liberal democracy in Egypt are so few and far between that they have no chance whatsoever of gaining power, today or for the foreseeable future. At this point it is hard to know what the balance of power is between the Islamists who won 74 percent of the vote in the 2011 parliamentary elections and their opponents. But it is clear that their opponents are not liberal democrats. They are a mix of neo-Nasserist fascists, communists and other not particularly palatable groups.

    None of them share Western conceptions of freedom and limited government. None of them are particularly pro-American. None of them like Jews. And none of them support maintaining Egypt’s cold peace with Israel.

    Egypt’s greatest modern leader was Gamal Abdel Nasser. By many accounts the most common political view of the anti-Muslim Brotherhood protesters is neo-Nasserist fascism.

    Nasser was an enemy of the West. He led Egypt into the Soviet camp in the 1950s. As the co-founder of the Non-Aligned Movement, he also led much of the Third World into the Soviet camp. Nasser did no less damage to the US in his time than al-Qaida and its allies have done in recent years.

    Certainly, from Israel’s perspective, Nasser was no better than Hamas or al-Qaida or their parent Muslim Brotherhood movement. Like the Islamic fanatics, Nasser sought the destruction of Israel and the annihilation of the Jews.

    Whether the fascists will take charge or not is impossible to know. So, too, the role of the Egyptian military in the future of Egypt is unknowable. The same military that overthrew Morsi on Wednesday stood by as he earlier sought to strip its powers, sacked its leaders and took steps to transform it into a subsidiary of the Muslim Brotherhood.

    There are only three things that are knowable about the future of Egypt. First it will be poor. Egypt is a failed state. It cannot feed its people. It has failed to educate its people. It has no private sector to speak of. It has no foreign investment.

    Second, Egypt will be politically unstable.

    Mubarak was able to maintain power for 29 years because he ran a police state that the people feared. That fear was dissipated in 2011. This absence of fear will bring Egyptians to the street to topple any government they feel is failing to deliver on its promises – as they did this week.

    Given Egypt’s dire economic plight, it is impossible to see how any government will be able to deliver on any promises – large or small – that its politicians will make during electoral campaigns.

    And so government after government will share the fates of Mubarak and Morsi.

    The whole article is well worth the read
    Very informative ..

  15. DeniseVB says:

    Looks like the Obamas had a nice 4th. It always irks me when they don’t put up sun shade tents for the troops and their families 😦


  16. myiq2xu says:

    The ME who performed Trayvon’s autopsy is testilying. He speaks in halting, broken Engrish with a heavy accent.

    • DandyTiger says:

      He said he thinks Martin suffered. Caused some stirring in the court. Not that it’s relevant, but sounds like an opinion.

      • lyn says:

        Zimmerman knows if Martin suffered.

      • Mary says:

        He says Martin lived 1 to 10 minutes longer after he was shot—lends credence to GZ’s claim that Martin talked to him and was still alive.

        • leslie says:

          I hope the jury considers this rather than thinks with emotions r/t Martin’s likely suffering. I would never do well on a jury. unfortunately my thinking and my emotions are sometimes quite enmeshed.

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  18. wmcb says:

    ME has testified and shown pics of blood on Martin’s knuckles, scrapes. Also showed the knees of Martin’s pants wet and soiled.

    Totally supports that he was straddling Zimmerman and punching him.

  19. Hilarious.

  20. votermom says:

    OT kid & I dawdled at the apple store the other day and now I covet a game that doesn’t seem to have a free version. 😦

  21. Anthony says:

    ME is out of his mind, Judge is letting him be as crazy as he likes. Sure seems like bias to me…..

    He has “typed with own hands answers to questions I anticipated you asking me”, and claims to “have absolutely no memory” of autopsy, yet is absolutely sure Little Trayvon suffered.

    What. The. Fuck.

    • DandyTiger says:

      He’s a defense appeal ready witness. 🙂

    • SHV says:

      I read the autopsy report last week and two things were “odd”. 1) there were “mixed” units of measure used, English and metric and 2) the reports seems “canned” ie. doesn’t read like it was dictated by a person whose native language is Chinese.

      In the whole report, the only significant finding is that the entrance would is described as “intermediate” ie by definition not a contact wound.

    • He has “typed with own hands answers to questions I anticipated you asking me”,

      Translation: Bernie (or someone on his team) told me the questions to anticipate and to prepare answers to these questions. Prosecution also told me if I was asked directly to say that I had prepared the answers by my own hand.

      Because that’s not technically perjury in BDLR world, where all the judges are friendly.

      • Mary says:

        Well said, Lola!

      • Mary says:

        Lola—attorneys are back in court, at the bench. I’m watching (you can’t hear spoken words), but judge just said something to lead prosecutor and he had to raise his right hand and swear to something in her presence.

        Maybe they’ve been challenged with your idea: TYPED questions on the paper from ME came from prosecution?

        Wow….this is stunning.

        • Agreed. O’Mara & West would be fools not to question whether or not prosecution had any hand in helping Bao to predict questions. I hope they covered the whole prosecution team, and not just BDLR.

        • Mary says:

          Ok….judge decrees no violation of Richardson Hearing—meaning, BDLR in the clear.

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  23. HELENK says:

    in the zimmerman case they made a big deal out of no martin dna on gun. from what I understand he reached for the gun. I never read anywhere the got or touched the gun. how many times have you reached for something and did not get it. so why is the lack of dna important?

    • Anthony says:

      so why is the lack of dna important?

      Because Obama publicly adopted Trayvon, and if Zimmerman isn’t convicted, he’ll be embarrassed (again) for shooting his mouth off before any facts are revealed.

    • wmcb says:

      Even if he had touched it, there might not be trace. People seem to forget it was RAINING that night. Rain screws with trace, big time.

  24. foxyladi14 says:

    Rain washes stuff away. 🙂

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