Closing Time

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Today could be the last day of the strangest criminal trial ever. There is no dispute that George Zimmerman shot and killed Trayvon Martin. Beyond that there isn’t much agreement about anything.

Inside the court no one has dared to mention the elephant in the room. That’s too bad. I wish Mark O’Mara would begin his closing argument by saying “The prosecution’s theory of this case is based on two facts: Trayvon Martin was black and George Zimmerman is not”.

There are a lot of red herrings in this case. Some are lies. Some are irrelevant. Many of them are both.

While it’s true that Trayvon Martin would probably be alive today if George Zimmerman didn’t have a gun or had stayed in his truck that fateful night, neither one of those things was the proximate cause of Trayvon’s death. Even if George Zimmerman “profiled” Trayvon and followed him, neither one of those acts is illegal.

In order to convict someone of a crime, the jury must agree that the evidence leads to only one reasonable conclusion: guilty. It is not enough that the defendant might be guilty or even is probably guilty.

This case scares me because of the very real possibility that George Zimmerman could spend the next several decades in prison in a case that should never have been filed.

Hopefully the jury will do the right thing and quickly acquit him of all charges.


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102 Responses to Closing Time

  1. votermom says:

    OT

    How is Philly like Egypt? …

  2. yttik says:

    I’m praying we see some justice! If those women find Zimmerman guilty, I’m going to have to believe the jury has access to info we don’t, because I haven’t seen or read anything that shows these charges are not simply a travesty.

  3. leslie says:

    I am so glad my “vacation” is over and I’m the train to work again. I don’t think I could listen to the coverage another minute. The trial with all the lies and character smears has soured me on the integrity of the system (as if ). This should never have happened – any of it.

    • mcnorman says:

      This is frightening leslie. This shit would not happen in Tx. Many years ago, we had a family being held hostage by an escaped jailbird. He was armed. There were children in the house. The bastard rounded up the family and told them that they would all die. The father told him that he would get him clothing to change into. The escapee told him to go and get him a bunch of clothes. The father came back with a stack of men’s clothing. In the middle of the stack he had placed his firearm. As he was placing the stack of clothing down, he shot the sob dead on the spot. No circus like this Zimmerman trial. Keep in mind that the escapee never physically attacked anyone. He just said that he would kill all of them. The children were 10 and 8. As a parent, that is perceived danger and a threat to life. I would have done the same thing.

  4. DeniseVB says:

    Jim Treacher’s rant :

    http://dailycaller.com/2013/07/12/why-is-joshua-chellew-less-important-than-trayvon-martin/

    Of course the little thugs were arrested and being charged with his death, but Treacher muses, wonder if the victim had a gun and killed a couple of them in defense ?

    • Mary says:

      Thanks for posting this. There will be much, much more backlash at the absurdity of this trial. Maybe not overt riots, but quiet , bitter backlash motivating the voters who stayed home in 2012 to get out and vote next time.

  5. yttik says:

    It really astounds me that the media, people, are ignoring all the other atrocities, much worse atrocities, and instead acting as if Zimmerman were the greatest evil ever. Half a dozen people were murdered in Chicago over the weekend, the Boston bomber murdered and maimed several innocent people, and a ME immigrant just ran a woman down in a hit and run. If obsessing over murder was your thing, there are dozens of really awful crimes to focus on. The fact that the Zimmerman trial has consumed the nation, leads me to conclude that this is brainwashing, propaganda, in action.

    • Mary says:

      Actually, I’m glad it’s all over the TV (I usually don’t get hooked on these every-summer-there’s-a-trial fiascos).

      People can watch it for themselves and see all the crooked choices made by the DOJ, the state of Florida, and these prosecutors.

      I don’t watch MSNBC or NBC anymore (not even on my TV favorites list), but I rather doubt their viewers are getting a factual, up front presentation.

    • Propertius says:

      And, of course, our Fearless Leader is blowing people to red mist all over the world based only on his personal whims.

  6. Lulu says:

    I cannot help but think this case was supposed to dovetail with the push on gun control. That it was supposed to terrify people into not carrying if they were so inclined or show that it is a stupid thing to do and they would be punished by the system if they did. It has done the exact opposite. Could they have picked a less likely gun nut to go after?

    • elliesmom says:

      I think they were going after the Stand Your Ground laws, and Zimmerman disappointed them when he didn’t use it.

      • Lulu says:

        The SYG laws are hated by plaintiff lawyers because of the the nix on wrongful death suits. Florida’s laws are a little strange and complicated to me but SYG nixes those suits even if simple self defense is ruled by a court too. Or something. Zimmerman will have to get a court to rule on liability too as I understand it. Just being arrested even if the case was later dropped opens liability or wrongful death which is why they kept pushing for an arrest, skipped a GJ, even though there was no probable cause. The state is not supposed to do that.

        • Mary says:

          The Martin family’s attorneys are wrongful death experts. That’s their specialty. They pumped this up in the community looking forward to a big settlement from the HOA and others.

        • Lulu says:

          They already got an settlement from the insurer or the homeowners. Next up probably was supposed to be the city settlement but then a defense case happened. I think he was overcharged to force some kind of a plea and they never expected it to go to trial. Zimmerman was broke, his first lawyers quit or were fired, and it looked like a slam dunk for something. Then a defense happened, the state tried to stop with them with discovery games, it blew up, and we have a trial which is an embarrassment for the state even if he is found guilty of something. I don’t see any more or very little wrongful death money for the family

    • wmcb says:

      I think they also were scared that black voters might stay home, since Obama sucks for them, so needed to gin up some outrage to get them to the polls in 2012.

    • Propertius says:

      Well, I think it was certainly a part of the Administration’s efforts to use wedge issues to prevent those who disliked the President on both the Right and the Left from figuring out how much they really have in common.

  7. Mary says:

    Wow. That 4 minute silence was very effective.

    That’s the amount of time Trayvon had to run home before he attacked George. Why didn’t he do so?

    State attorneys and Trayvon parents not looking too happy.

    • swanspirit says:

      Wow is right , I thought it was TWO minutes , but four ? Martin was determined to confront the “cracker “

      • Mary says:

        Indeed. His parents may have taught him Black pride yada yada, but they didn’t teach him wisdom.

        I’m begining to agree with Myiq—-I think Rachel dared him to confront George while they were on the phone.

  8. Mary says:

    OT: Fox News reporting Janet Napolitano resigning. Hmmmm

  9. votermom says:

  10. votermom says:

    • Mary says:

      And those Black Panthers literally announced a $10,000 reward ON PUBLIC TV for Zimmerman’s assassination.

      Eric Holder’s DOJ, and Barak Obama’s WH, did NOTHING.

    • gxm17 says:

      I don’t get it. Isn’t putting a bounty on someone akin to contracting a murder… If it’s illegal to hire a contract killer, then shouldn’t it be illegal to put a bounty on someone’s head?

  11. helenk3 says:

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/07/11/Spike-Lee-s-2012-Tweet-of-Incorrect-Address-of-Zimmerman-Haunts-Elderly-Couple-Again

    an elderly couple lives in fear due to a racist fool

    there should be the lawsuit to end all lawsuits over this

  12. helenk3 says:

    http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/56491

    backtrack and his bunch interjected themselves into this matter. do they have any plans to calm down what they started to avoid violence?

  13. myiq2xu says:
    • DeniseVB says:

      Did the attorneys object to the disruption ? I’d imagine this is not a good visual for the jury.

      • elliesmom says:

        As a juror, I would look on that as Fulton, and I believe Crump, too, left because they decided the prosecution has lost, and they didn’t want to see it. If things were going their way, they’d want to see Zimmerman crushed. Unless she tripped on the way out, they might not have even noticed. They were being shown photos close up.

  14. helenk3 says:

    http://www.americanthinker.com/2013/07/why_the_zimmerman_prosecutors_should_be_disbarred.html

    yeah they should be disbarred. can anyone who lives in florida expect a fair trial after this mess?

    • foxyladi14 says:

      Amen Helen. 😉

    • Glenn Reynolds recently wrote about changes needed in prosecutorial discretion and immunity laws, and this case is the perfect illustration those changes are about ten years behind the curve. Bullying and persecuting is not the same thing as vigorously enforcing the law of the land. It’s become a public disgrace.

    • helenk3 says:

      Race War: The Obama administration spent thousands of federal dollars to help the Rev. Al Sharpton pressure the state of Florida to railroad George Zimmerman in the Trayvon Martin shooting case.

      The Justice Department not only met with Martin’s parents and the notorious racial arsonist Sharpton, as we reported earlier this week. It even helped them organize rallies against Zimmerman, who trial evidence shows shot Martin in self-defense.

  15. elliesmom says:

    I think the most important thing MOM said in his closing was what the jurors should do first is decide if they believe there’s any possibility that Zimmerman acted in self-defense. If they do, then they must acquit him. That’s their ticket home in time for the weekend.

  16. helenk3 says:

    this is the weirdest rebuttal. listen to your heart? any jury that I have ever been on your judged on facts not feelings.

    keeps calling martin at child. At 17 years old my husband was in the Air Force

  17. Anthony says:

    The elephant in the room that nobody wants to mention, but is most likely the strongest deciding factor in determining the verdict:

  18. State just “didn’t” play the race card!

  19. mothy67 says:

    Is it over? I tried to watch but the defense was so monotone and dispassionate that I fell asleep.
    Tin foil theory. What if the PTB want to lose so obama can speak and heal the nation.

    • Anthony says:

      Not really tinfoil. Another possibility is to create racial tension to bring the POTUS’s party votes in the 2014 mid terms. Never let a crisis go to waste…..

  20. elliesmom says:

    Guy kept referring to Martin as a child. I wonder how Martin would react to someone calling him a child. Somehow, I don’t think it would go over very well.

  21. helenk3 says:

    http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2012/05/24/update-26-part-2-trayvon-martin-shooting-a-year-of-drug-use-culminates-in-predictable-violence/

    got this from a commenter at no quarter.

    ingredients for a drug of choice. was that what martin was buying at the store?

  22. Remember this fact if the jury comes back quickly;

    “…9:16 a.m. in the deliberation room at the Superior Court building and began its review of the trial. At 2:28 p.m., jurors notified Judge Ito that a verdict had been reached.”

    http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/notorious_murders/famous/simpson/home_15.html

  23. DeniseVB says:

    Ann Coulter has something to say and always makes good points …..

    http://dailycaller.com/2013/07/10/this-years-duke-lacrosse-case/

  24. Anthony says:

    I wish there was a way I could embed this pic:

  25. myiq2xu says:
    • gxm17 says:

      I hope you’re right, myiq. I have absolutely no faith in Florida juries. I’m worried they’ll compromise with a manslaughter verdict. But I’ll be very relieved if I’m wrong.

    • swanspirit says:

      I hope so too . if they follow the evidence , and the instructions , he should be acquitted .

  26. votermom says:

    low-tech security system

  27. Anthony says:

    BDLR goes all racist & shit: “Skittles that he didn’t even STEAL from 7-11!”

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  30. helenk3 says:

    since no one knew who were going to be alternate jurors and all listened to the whole case, who makes the decision on which jurors are picked to be alternates?

    • myiq2xu says:

      Alternates are picked at the end of jury selection. Alternates listen to the evidence but don’t participate in deliberations. If one or more jurors is dismissed an alternate takes their place and deliberations start over.

      • helenk3 says:

        I understand that is how it is usually done. On tv they said none of the jurors knew which ones would be the alternates. that is why I am confused over this. Usually at the jury selection alternates are designated and know through the whole trial whole trial who they are.
        Could this be a way to stack a final jury?

  31. myiq2xu says:

    New thread up

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