MEN

ImageAnybody want to talk about men? I’m a girl, I like men…..and cats, ponies, shiny things, my hair, the sound of my own voice… It’s solipsism, this thing where you believe only your own mind exists. Girls can be so self absorbed. That’s not a bad thing. It helps us perceive the world and stay safe. How is this going to affect me, me,me is actually a quite reasonable survival skill. The trouble starts when we start to write laws, pass legislation, create whirled peas in the world. Obamacare for example, there’s a warm fuzzy in there somewhere, so let’s just pass it so we can see what’s in it. I want my pony!

When I say girls, I don’t just mean females, I also refer to the Party of Pussies, the new Democrats. The feel good fools. The men in dresses who pretend they have girl credential. The Anthony Weiners, John Edwards of the world. Forget about them, don’t listen to their crap. They just want to get laid, like most men. The problem with the Weiners is that they don’t even have the integrity to admit it. If you can’t be honest about your own self, you sure can’t be trusted with power over anyone else. Not only are they unworthy, the are fricken dangerous. I have gotten many threats of rape and dismemberment from the men in dresses. Nothing worse then a man in the closet. Don’t touch one with a ten foot pole in cyber space while hiding anonymously behind your keyboard. Yes, they are that scary. They’re bad for women. Men should go kick their asses, like God intended.Image

So how did I go from raging feminist to raging misogynist? I fell down a rabbit hole long ago. I started to question things, like our family court system, pedophiles, domestic violence laws. Let me tell you a secret about those laws, they only work against honorable men. No dishonorable man who is truly scary is going to be stopped by a restraining order. No dishonorable man is going to slave away for 18 yrs paying his child support and alimony. Our DV laws are nearly useless against the truly dangerous. Smart women dealing with these kind men simply disappear off the face of the Earth, because the system can’t stop them until they damn near kill you.  Image

The other side of the story is, but what about the women?? What about the children? WTH are we doing to ourselves? I saw it over and over again, one slap, one phone call to the cops, he goes to jail for 3 days, she might go to jail too, kids get put in a foster home run by pedophiles. Family now has no bread winner, kids have no father, mother is a single parent…of sexually abused kids with borderline personality disorder. It’s a nightmare.

So, with the perfect solipsism of a woman, I asked, what the hell are we doing to our women and children?? Are we really so blind that we cannot see? Why yes, yes apparently we are.

Somewhere down this rabbit hole, I discovered that I am a raging misogynist. See, it turns out that what is good for men is going to be very closely tied to the well being of women and children. Go figure.ImagePS, Sarah Palin, thank you for the “wussy” pic on FB today. Perfect, just perfect. Synchronicity, I am so addicted to the stuff.

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59 Responses to MEN

  1. votermom says:

    No dishonorable man who is truly scary is going to be stopped by a restraining order.

    Very true. DV laws are worse than useless.

    • Constance says:

      However the second Amendment is very helpful and a great equalizer for harassed or abused women.

      • yttik says:

        Yes my dear, but there is a problem there for me too. Bear with me, I have not yet muzzled it all out. It goes something like this, “we stab them with our steely knives but we just can’t kill the beast.”

        I am so grateful to all the men who disarmed me over the years, because I honestly believe that if I had access to weapons back in the day, and no one to stop me, I may have seriously injured someone. But for the Grace of God and some quick thinking men tackling me, I would have. Never guns, I simply don’t trust myself with them. I speak of forks, knives, coffee cups.

        Ironically I did not learn this from men. Well, I did but I didn’t see it. I learned it from being at the wrong end of a female cop’s gun during jury duty and finally saw myself for what I am. Scared to death and prone to hysteria. Like a frightened dog, there really is nothing more dangerous.

        • Klown says:

          My psycho ex-girlfriend once told me “Don’t worry, I won’t stab you in a vital organ.” She was serious.

          Then I wondered what parts of my anatomy a bisexual woman would consider vital.

        • yttik says:

          Thank you klown, you make me laugh and it calms me right down. That and humiliating myself works wonders.

  2. votermom says:

    Heh, got an RT from Dan Bongino

    • Constance says:

      My insurance costs have skyrocketed since Obamacare was signed, I want those increases repealed too. (fat chance)

      • leslie says:

        Mine, too. In addition, so have the cost of my meds, and the process to have vastly important tests has taken a real turn for the worse. I need annual CT’s since my cancer, and now the insurance company won’t authorize without proof this is a life/death situation. But the Medicaid patients I work with go to the ER and get whatever they ask for – at a huge cost to you and me, and they don’t understand what the outpouring of anger is about —- except to say it’s “racist” and elitist.

  3. yttik says:

    Ignore my silly prattle, I write love sonnets for Klown in the middle of the night:

    “So speak to me of subliminal advertising and people so sleep deprived they see Ratts. Color me amused, indeed. The Butler may have done it, but the King is well, simply the King. Synchronicity in the chain of command. Still one madwoman can sink a thousand ships while a man in a dress can only block you on facebook. This is truth.”

    • yttik says:

      I must add to my sonnet, “It is Psychotic Klowns who really know a little lollipop dipped in psycho when they see them.”

        • yttik says:

          God has no mercy on me or perhaps no mercy on you? There simply are no meds. To falsely blame you for scaring me, I leave you one more line in my video game sonnet:

          “Even a blind pawn in a chess game, a little lollipop dipped in psycho, can eventually find honor in a psychotic Klown. Enter the Sandman…..”

          One of these days I’m going to be able to stop apologizing and than things are going to get very interesting.

  4. elliesmom says:

    I only have one quibble with what you wrote. Football coaches, Army sergeants try to motivate other men by accusing them of being all kinds of epithets referring to women. It denigrates women in ways that calling women names doesn’t. A man without any backbone isn’t “wearing a dress”. He’s not a pussy. A man who shows emotion isn’t “crying like a little girl”. I have no problem with women who believe women have a different role in life than men do. I do have a problem with women who help perpetuate the idea that women’s roles are “less than”. More men would rather wake up in the morning confined to a wheelchair than wake up and find they’re a woman. So down the rabbit hole is fine if you’re happy there, but please help keep it a place where women are valued.

    • wmcb says:

      I may be wrong, but I don’t think yttik was coming from a place of men with no backbone being like women. At least, I didn’t get that.

      I know the sort of man she is referring to, and it has nothing to do with courage, or sexuality. It has to do with the snakes who try to “feminize” as a ploy, or out of vile prog pc-ness, or as a means of strangely usurping on our (women’s) emotional turf. Some of those men are the most hateful, dangerous men I have ever met underneath the rhetoric. Often much more dangerous than the coarse macho posturer.

      When a hetero man starts going creepily overboard in being “all about identifying with the wimminz”, I view it as a red flag. Seriously. Because in my experience, those men are fucked up as hell, about 90% of the time.

      • Klown says:

        The three biggest fallacies of feminism some feminists:

        1. Women should be like men.

        2. Men should be like women.

        3. Men and women are different species (with men being parasites).

      • elliesmom says:

        She called them “pussies”. Said they were wearing dresses. Was she accusing them of being transvestites? You want to hear what boys call each other when they want to put each other down? They call each other girls. I’ve never said men and women are the same. But men believe their roles are more valuable than ours. I don’t mind being “different”. I do mind being second class.

        • wmcb says:

          I get what you are saying, I just think maybe you’re being too literal. It’s pretty obvious (to me) she was being stream-of-consciousness and emotionally metaphorical, not literal.

          the men in dresses who pretend they have girl credential

          What part of that is saying the feminine is “less than?” Seems quite the opposite to me – that the complaint is men usurping OUR traditional venues of power, for reasons that have nothing to do with anything positive for women. Is the solution to “men thinking their roles are more valuable than ours” to abandon our roles entirely in the push to take theirs? Maybe sometimes that’s needed, or wanted. But do we, by doing that, actually end up reinforcing the idea that our other roles were “less than”?

          yttik is not having a logical debate here. She said from the outset this was rooted in her solipsism. The feminine solipsism that she is experimenting with re-embracing as a positive thing, not a negative. Yeah, it’s a little woo woo intuitive bullshit, but I get where she is coming from.

          I greatly admire women who can go kick ass in a “man’s world”. I’ve done a bit of that myself. What I don’t want to do is fall into thinking that proving one’s self against men, and in their traditional realms is the only way women have value. THAT, to me, devalues women just as much as saying they cannot do a man’s job.

          I can do things that my husband could never in a million years do. A small percentage of men probably can, but him? Nope. Things that have to do with creating whole environments – with beauty, with comfort, with the intuitive managing of relationships and family and harmonious atmosphere that he cannot even fucking comprehend, much less accomplish. He just knows I make it feel good to be home, and he couldn’t for the life of him tell you how I do that. Neither could I, really. But I know in my bones that this is a significant piece of MY power, and my mother’s, and my grandmother’s, and my great-great grandmother’s. It’s not bullshit submissive wifey homemaker shit. It’s not shallow. It’s something I can tap into that is real, and very very powerful and influential. Done wrongly and superficially, it’s manipulative crap. Done well, it’s a force that moves nations.

          How’s that for some woo woo Zen female solipsism? 😉

    • yttik says:

      Oh elliesmom, thank you so much. Women are so, so valued in this rabbit hole. It is the solipsism of a woman that hears the word “pussy” and immediately thinks about what it is saying about her. Sex object, bad to be a girl, etc.

      No seriously, I think men should go kick the sissy boys arses, exactly as they have been for centuries, because those are the men who will eventually hurt women. The more manly the man, at least inside his own mind, the safer the woman. If he understands his job, his role, his purpose, as far, far, away protector, and he mans up about it, all will be well. If not, women are scared and dangerous in their fear.

      • yttik says:

        The men police the men and teach them how to be honorable towards women! Holy crap girls, I think I just got it.

        I am still terrified that all this honesty of mine will bring out stalkers. Please God, don’t ever let anybody stalk me in real life. Been there and done that. Scary shit. I cling to nothing but hope that the honor of men is real. And that if it ever happens again, I will arm myself and fire hysterically.

    • Klown says:

      100 pennies and a dollar bill are equal in value, but they are not the same.

      Men and women are equal, but they are not the same.

      Vive la différence!

  5. yttik says:

    Klown, I have another post for about a week or so from now. I await the attention of another madwoman, before I dump it on you. I hope I have not overwhelmed your man brain with my capacity for woman-logic. Even I find it really disturbing and scare myself. Scared is not good, it makes us dangerous.

  6. wmcb says:

    You get into dangerous waters when you start talking about gender roles. People get upset – often because they don’t (a) truly think about or (b) truly understand what you are (and are NOT) saying.

    Here’s my take on gender roles: they evolved for a reason, and are in many ways inborn and a good thing with lots of positive benefits. But one creates a problem when society is not flexible enough to allow people (as individuals) to step outside those roles as needed/wanted. One also creates a problem if society tries to eradicate them entirely, or reverse them. We need them in a general way, not as hard rules for every single person/situation.

    One example:

    Much of the wilding of young men we see today has to do (I think) with the effort in past decades to eradicate the idea of chivalry, and good men being protective of women. All the marches and bleating of the Amanda Marcottes of the world is not going to do bupkus to change the behavior of young men on college campuses. You know what would? The older men of society re-taking on their historic role of protector, and kicking the asses of the out-of-line young bucks. Treating them like young women and talking and talking to them is fucking useless. Sorry, young men as a group don’t respond to that. They respond to the older bulls in the herd knocking them the fuck down.

    Chivalry and protectiveness had benefits for women as a whole. And as much as we needed to change some things, and create more opportunities and equality (and we did) we in the process got rid of a great many protections for women that we are feeling the lack of today.

    • Klown says:

      If you were to make two Bell curves on a single graph showing a range from “masculine” to feminine” with one Bell curve being for men and the other being for women one would be to the left of the other but there would be an area of overlap in between.

      Some men are more masculine than others. Some women are more feminine. Some men are effeminate. Some women are “butch”.

      I am not referring to sexual orientation but I bet a chart that showed both hetero and homo would be revealing.

      • wmcb says:

        Yeah, there is a lot of overlap between masculine/feminine and sexual oritentation, but even there it’s not set in stone. Some gay men are very very macho, not feminine at all.

        People want things in neat packages, but the world is not made that way. OTOH, generalities do exist, and saying that they don’t, or that it’s horrible to notice that they do, is just dumb.

        • Klown says:

          I remember when it was trendy to believe that gender roles were not hardwired into us but were taught (or imposed) by society.

          Anyone who has raised both boys and girls knows they are different. Trying to make them the same is how you screw them up.

          Part of my upbringing was being told “Boys don’t hit girls!” They didn’t tell the girls “Don’t hit boys!”

        • yttik says:

          Klown, you know we hit you to try and get your attention? Of course you do. We learn this in kindergarten, we slug the boys we like, hoping they will slug us back, metaphorically of course. The problem is, our culture is erasing boys and mens right to slug us back, even metaphorically. This, combined with the dishonor of some dishonorable men, creates madwomen, prone to hysteria.

          I really do apologize to Klown for my panic attack…..even while in the process of having my panic attack. As usual the error is on my end. I’m sorry.

    • votermom says:

      wmcb, you are spot on about gender roles.

  7. votermom says:

    Btw, wmcb, this awesome post by Sarah Hoyt got Insta-launched the other day

    http://accordingtohoyt.com/2013/08/15/i-am-spartacus/

  8. yttik says:

    It is so nice to see you again, WCMB. So nice to have all the girls here. So nice to have another place to go and humiliate myself, too, LOL.

    This recent discovery that some women may simply need to be told to calm the hell down and stop descending into hysteria has benefited me greatly. As feminists we are taught to validate the pain, to puff up the hysteria. Often the exact opposite is what is really need.

    In real life a girl landed on my doorstep a few weeks ago with an terrible tale of a husband who had put his hand gently on her throat without permission. She was going to call the cops.For realz. I was able to tell her, “Girl, STFU and stop being hysterical. See, there’s this thing called biology….”

    The sad thing is she said, “how come nobody has ever told me about this “biology” thing?” Some of us girls are simply incapable of giving men the benefit of the doubt, having encountered male dishonor one too many times.

    Klown, I have to apologize to you once again. I freaked my own self out while you were hopefully sleeping. I am so sorry. I am getting better at recognizing it.

    • Klown says:

      Don’t worry.

      The nurse will be by with your meds shortly. Then you will realize this has all been just a dream.

      • yttik says:

        Thank God. Enter the Sandman……

        Hey, did you know me and Sarah Palin have the same taste in music? Funny, that. Metallica, AC/DC. I swear, I am metaphorically dancing with Sarah Palin today, in cyberspace. Her and I appear to be in sync.

  9. Constance says:

    Here is my take which I realize you didn’t ask for. I agree it is nice to have the protection of men, but it isn’t necessary and you shouldn’t count on it. Since you are not God you don’t need to understand it all. Maybe you and other humans weren’t made to understand it all. You don’t need meds, here is a meditation for you to focus on while relaxing alone in the quiet, with a hot cup of tea.

    Things are as they are not as I wish them to be.
    People are as they are not as I wish them to be.
    People are responsible for their own lives not my wishes for them.
    May I be balanced and at peace.
    May I respond to life with equanimity and compassion.
    May I be calm in the storm.

    • yttik says:

      Thank you Constance, beautiful. Mercifully, I shall take myself off to work and ponder that for a while.

    • Constance says:

      I almost wrote “May I be clam in the storm” Which would have had the effect of making a too heavy topic hysterically funny…perhaps the “right” thought at that. On the other hand I’m now thinking a nice bowl of Ivar”s clam chowder (as I will surely never have another bowl of my Mothers amazing clam chowder) is called for and will reorient the world. I’m off!

  10. elliesmom says:

    I’m checking out of this conversation before I become ill.

  11. helenk3 says:

    http://ricochet.com/main-feed/Can-A-Conservative-Really-Be-Friends-with-a-Liberal-Anymore

    interesting article. In today’s America politics have become more dividing then I remember them being

  12. driguana says:

    If you don’t like a particular blog subject, wait for the next one….things change. That’s the beauty of the blogosphere. You don’t have to participate if you don’t want to.

  13. 1539days says:

    I thought this story goes with this unsettled topic of men not acting like men.

    Wash. man pointed gun at woman for smoking while pregnant

    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57512817/police-wash-man-pointed-gun-at-woman-for-smoking-while-pregnant/

  14. yttik says:

    KLOWN! No more apologies, no surrender, no defeat! You are now trapped in hell with a madwoman. Let’s rock and roll and take this clown down, Klown. I hate Obama.

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