Caturday Open Thread


Yusmeiro Petit was nearly perfect last night.

I promise there will be no boots on the ground I will write a real post later.

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69 Responses to Caturday Open Thread

  1. The Klown says:
  2. The Klown says:
    • leslie says:

      I was scared watching them last night. But then I remembered they are children, really. They haven’t been exposed to real life yet. nd looking for work. And paying rent, utilities, taxes other than on their bar tabs, and having to actually file taxes. Until then though, I’m gonna stay a little concerned.

  3. The Klown says:
  4. DeniseVB says:

    When you’ve lost Kos :

  5. The Klown says:

    Martha Stewart’s tips for rednecks

    1. Never take a beer to a job interview.
    2. Always identify people in your yard before shooting at them.
    3. It’s considered tacky to take a cooler to church.
    4. If you have to vacuum the bed, it is time to change the sheets.
    5. Even if you’re certain that you are included in the will, it is still rude to drive the U-Haul to the funeral home.

    1. When decanting wine, make sure that you tilt the paper cup and pour slowly so as not to “bruise” the fruit of the vine.
    2. If drinking directly from the bottle, always hold it with your hands.

    1. A centerpiece for the table should never be anything prepared by a taxidermist.
    2. Do not allow the dog to eat at the table, no matter how good his manners are.

    1. While ears need to be cleaned regularly, this is a job that should be done in private using one’s OWN truck keys.
    2. Even if you live alone, deodorant is not a waste of good money.
    3. Use of proper toiletries can only delay bathing for a few days.
    4. Dirt and grease under the fingernails is a social no-no, as they tend to detract from a woman’s jewelry and alter the taste of finger foods.

    DATING (Outside the Family):
    1. Always offer to bait your date’s hook, especially on the first date.
    2. Be assertive. Let her know you’re interested: “I’ve been wanting to go out with you since I read that stuff on the bathroom wall two years ago.”
    3. Establish with her parents what time she is expected back. Some will say 10:00 PM. Others might say “Monday.” If the latter is the answer, it is the man’s responsibility to get her to school on time.

    1. Crying babies should be taken to the lobby and picked up immediately after the movie has ended.
    2. Refrain from talking to characters on the screen. Tests have proven they can’t hear you..

    1. Livestock is usually a poor choice for a wedding gift.
    2. Kissing the bride for more than 5 seconds may get you shot.
    3. For the groom, at least, rent a tux. A leisure suit with a cummerbund and a clean bowling shirt can create a tacky appearance.
    4. Though uncomfortable, say “yes” to socks and shoes for this special occasion.

    1. Dim your headlights for approaching vehicles, even if the gun is loaded and the deer is in sight.
    2. When approaching a four-way stop, the vehicle with the largest tires does not always have the right of way.
    3. Never tow another car using panty hose and duct tape.
    4. When sending your wife down the road with a gas can, it is impolite to ask her to bring back beer too.
    5. Do not lay rubber while traveling in a funeral procession

  6. DeniseVB says:

    This might help to explain why the media spent the better part of a month blasting Mitt Romney for his comments on Benghazi as opposed to the Obama Administration for their bungling and lying about Benghazi.


  7. driguana says:

    Don’t have any cat comments other than our cat, Lucy, and our dog, Izzy, have to come to grips with our new conure/parrot, Sunny, that recently flew into our lives (literally)…..needless to say, the household is in a bit of animal turmoil. My partner, Jinny, thinks she’s some kind of zookeeper!

  8. DeniseVB says:

    Freaky-deaky. I know that part of Brooklyn, if they say it was aliens, it probably was … lol 😀

    • Constance says:

      I wish it were space aliens. I sure wouldn’t put the ice in my freezer though since it probably came from an airplane bathroom or something equally disgusting. ICK!

      • DeniseVB says:

        The article said “latrine” ice is blue, but still, goodness knows what death particle cooties it passed through from 35k feet or something. FAA wants to analyze it, I’ll watch for that report.

  9. DeniseVB says:

    Love this guy ….

  10. votermom says:

    I just finished reading Cuckoo’s Calling, the mystery that JK Rowling wrote under a pen name. I liked it a lot – 4 stars. Thank god – I was worried after Casual Vacancy that I was going to hate all her post-Potter fiction. 😀

    • Constance says:

      Glad to hear it, I was afraid to read it too. I think I’ll download it. I need a good read. My kids adult kids have been issuing crazy announcements about life choices which I can’t do anything about so I really really need a distraction. I just hate it when you can see your kids stupidly heading for disaster but the only thing you can do is pray.

      • votermom says:

        It’s one of those hard-boiled detectives with a heart of gold type of noir mysteries. I thought the characters were well-done, and the 2 main ones were quite likable.

        (((hugs))) and good luck with the kids. Hope it blows over, whatever it is.

  11. The Klown says:

    My mom just sent me a lengthy email she received describing how Aspartame causes cancer, multiple sclerosis, male pattern baldness and droopy dingus. She was worried because I drink Diet Pepsi the way Willie Nelson smokes pot.

    I introduced my mom to

  12. wmcb says:

    So while some of my facebook peeps are hopeless Obamabots, I do have friends that are sincere socialists, and not assholes. I also have quite a few European facebook friends. One of them had posted something on his wall about being a proud Socialist, and it so happened that I’d just been conversing with *another* socialist friend, so I posted this in reply to him:

    Well, I’m more libertarian, but I don’t think my socialist friends are the devil. Was having an interesting conversation the other day with a socialist friend about more localized govt vs. large centralized govt. I’m of the opinion that IF one wishes to institute more socialist models, they seem to work better (in my observation) if much more local control is a key component. Most of the abuses and failures of the State seem to me to occur most in the attempt to have a very large, one-size-fits-all, uber-State with decisionmaking far removed from the local citizen.

    We were discussing some of what Switzerland does: they are largely socialist, but the local cantons have tremendous decision-making power, with less power invested in the national structure. Seems to have benefits that a massive centralized State does not. So we got into an entire conversation about whether some of the failings of socialist systems were less about the ideas, and more about the corrupting influence and non-responsiveness of huge creaky bureaucracies with way too much **centralized** power. That led to whether a good compromise between libertarians like myself and my socialist peeps might be to focus on more localized, agile, responsive small govt, less uber-large machinelike govt. Can one get some of the benefits of socialism and avoid some pitfalls? Can one achieve more of the individualism and leave-me-the-hell-alone-ism of libertarian views, and avoid its downside by having adequate govt, but with more localized control?

    He and I, though on almost opposite ends of the spectrum, found a lot of agreement. I really wish that these were the kind of conversations we had on a national level. Instead we have two parties that just pit us against “the other”. If anyone is going to think outside the box, it’s not going to be our “leaders”, or the pundits or the media. It’s going to be us out here.

    This whole idea of “not necessarily less govt, but more individualized, localized govt” is one that I keep coming back to. Of course, the founders with their Federalist ideas covered it in depth. But….I think rather than appeal to Jefferson (whom the young voters will roll their eyes at), we may need to take those ideas and translate them into today-speak.

    In this conversation, got into game theory, computer programming, business models, and how systems/software/business plans that work on a more micro level tend to get bogged down/corrupt/bug-riddled on a macro level. So size itself may be a factor – the amassing of centralized power/corruption/inefficiency may be more of a risk the larger you go, no matter WHAT the ideology. Could we have the larger govt doing the tax-collecting and things that MUST be done more efficiently on a large scale, but leave much of the application and administration of programs in local hands, with very little interference/control from Washington? See, these were concepts (software development, more organic de-centralized business plans, etc) that this young socialist friend could relate to. I’d have lost him if I’d just spouted Jefferson as holy writ.

    Anyhoo, just throwing all that out there for discussion. I by no means have this all figured out. But I like to see us, ALL of us, even the socialists, talk about it outside the party/ideology boxes.

    • wmcb says:

      I think I’m discovering that I am not anti-govt so much as anti-concentrated power in any form. That’s my nemesis, that I recoil from no matter what the political label.

      • DandyTIger says:

        The more centralized, the more it will be corrupted. All power and control in someone’s hands tends to make them want to keep that and expand that. Our whole constitution is based on limiting federal government. Partly by pitting states vs. feds, and partly by pitting individuals vs. feds. Limiting is the right concept. We’ve long since lost that with how centralized and big things are. But rather than saying kill the program, which we may still have to do if nothing better can be done, we might be able to break up programs and “distribute” them.

        • wmcb says:

          We are not going to tear it all down at this point. But we may be able to break it up and make it more locally responsive/agile. And I think that approaching the philosophy of governance that way might garner enough support from BOTH sides of the aisle to be do-able, not just a pipe dream. HOW we talk about this, what words and concepts we use, makes a difference. Local. Organic. Individual control of government, not getting rid of govt.

      • DandyTIger says:

        Distributed government.

        • wmcb says:

          Yep. Also, rather than harping on “free market”, talk about organic growth. Local ideas having room to experiment. Much the way the internet grew – no real central plan, just a basic structure with millions of people experimenting on the margins. You just can’t get that kind of innovation with a rigid rule-bound structure.

    • DandyTIger says:

      Great discussion. I like it. Rather than less vs. more, or more finely grained big gov. does x but not y, really it’s what parts of what functions can safely be centralized and what parts of what functions need to be closer to the individual. Where in the spectrum of central all the way to the individual functions go is the interesting discussion. And I imagine what we think of as many gov. services, will be best to break up into their limited central bits, their limited state bits, and their bigger village to individual bits. The mobile computing revolution (or in old fashion speak, client/server models) may have some interesting analogies along those lines.

      • wmcb says:

        Yeah, this guy “got it” when we started talking about the pitfalls of taking something that works well for a local network and trying to expand it to a huge network. It doesn’t always translate to the macro very well. The system breaks down, and then you patch it, and the patch causes even MORE problems, that you have to then patch, etc.

        • DandyTIger says:

          Yep. Same stuff happens in large software architecture efforts. Your original design didn’t remain nice for very long. Things change. The realities of how things work are never what you thought. So you take those things into account and redesign based on what you know. Then you carefully restructure, keeping everything working while you do. Quite a tricky operation. But it’s doable. When you’re done, things inevitably will change over time. Rinse and repeat. But every iteration you make better abstractions and organization and learn patterns. It gets easier at some point and you get better at it. You end up distributing work and control and decision making all over the place where it works best.

        • wmcb says:

          So…. the trick is to have a govt with enough rules to be stable, but not so many rules that it loses the ability to adapt, and quickly.

          Because if there were “rules” in place that prevented you from making those adjustments when needed, or required all changes to be made at the highest level, not the downstream level, the whole system crashes. Central control means that errors (which WILL occur) affect the entire system – because all errors by design **must** be made at that level, since no tinkering is allowed downstream. Fixes and failsafes etc need to be distributed a) where they work best, and b) where their failure won’t threaten the whole shebang.

          I know bupkus about software or network design, but this seems like an analogy one could run with. 🙂

        • DandyTIger says:

          I think the analogy works. Same with any large systems process design I would imagine.

        • Constance says:

          BUT the DC government has power brokers firmly entrenched. They are not going to just give up their power. You will have to fight them to the death to take power back for citizens. Power seekers don’t care about the good of The People or The Whole.

    • votermom says:

      Could we have the larger govt doing the tax-collecting and things that MUST be done more efficiently on a large scale, but leave much of the application and administration of programs in local hands, with very little interference/control from Washington?

      I’m not convinced tax collecting even needs to be as centralized as it is now.On you larger point, I totally agree. More local control, less centralized control.
      DC has turned into a malignant tumor on the body politic.

    • Constance says:

      What ever type of government you go with it will be corrupted by those people who seek power for powers sake. So smaller government should be better because it gives more opportunity for citizen oversight. Seriously how do we on the west coast keep an eye on government in DC or media originating from NY? It’s not possible.

      But also keeping government out of peoples lives is a way to limit government inefficiency and corruption. I know Liberals love programs for teaching, feeding, clothing… people they consider less fortunate but why do they have to be GOVERNMENT programs? Why aren’t Liberals setting up these programs independently? You see churches (particularly conservative religions) setting up programs to help the poor and educate children but Liberals seem to want to tax everyone and then have the government run the program with an extra bureaucracy to insure no religious ideas are being expressed when there are more efficient small ways to go.

  13. helenk3 says:

    just an update.
    it is raining again in Hemet California. paying to have your windows washed is better than rain dances

  14. helenk3 says:

    a short rant

    If I hear one more time we have to back backtrack to keep America’s credibility in the world I will scream long and loud.
    What about the fact the American public has the wisdom NOT to follow a lying fool who has no love or respect for their country

  15. The Klown says:
  16. helenk3 says:

    Judge Jeanine is great tonight. can not wait for the video

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