A Double Memorial

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For eleven years this day marked the anniversary of one terrorist attack, but now it marks two of them.

May the victims rest in peace and may the terrorists burn in hell.


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103 Responses to A Double Memorial

  1. The Klown says:
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    Guess who’s back?

    When the going gets tough, the PR manipulators stir up the Christians

    It’s all over the nytimes front page. A *Christian* village in Syria was attacked. Three *Christian* women are dead, as if that makes it more outrageous. They must be desperate if they’re willing to get the American Christian sector all in a tizzy.

    Moslem children dead for two years? Not a peep. But once they worship the right god, well, then they’re worth saving.

    Disgusting.

    Sorry RD, but you are missing the point. Your irrational hatred for Christians probably has something to do with that.

    The point is that Obama wants us to help the rebels against Assad, but the rebels are a bunch of violent pieces of shit too.

    • Lulu says:

      Syria is a hashed up country of various ethnic groups. These ethnicities have different religions. Most are different flavors of Islam but some of them are kind of weird and those groups have been traditionally treated very, very badly. So have ancient Christians sects, Jews, Zoroastrians, etc. Old man Assad was from one of those pissed on groups called the Alawites who were relegated to being starving mountain peasants for centuries. My point is that most of us do not understand the undercurrents of ethnic, social, historical and religious feuds going on centuries. Minority groups have mostly supported the Assads because they are from a minority group too and have treated them slightly better than they have historically been treated. The Sunni’s (historically and currently) want to wipe them all out and those are the rebels leanings. Just blindly being for or against one group in this complex country or another is simply ignorant. And the US doing Saudi Arabia’s (fundamentalist Sunni) dirty work is dangerous AND stupid.

      • The Klown says:

        Some places like China and Egypt have had an identity for thousands of years. Other places like Greece and Italy have had an identity for somewhat less. England and France settled onto their identities about 1000 years ago. Mexico and the United States a few hundred years.

        The nation we call “Syria” did not exist 100 years ago. But there are cities in Syria that trace their origins back to when Egypt was still building the pyramids. That whole region has been fought over, conquered, occupied and controlled by different civilizations and nations so many times it’s impossible to say who the “native” people are.

      • angienc says:

        “Simply ignorant” is a good description of RD.

      • conner43 says:

        There is an Alawite legend that professes they are descended from the Hittites. Assad is a poor representative in the sense that the Alawites are often quite beautiful, and obviously an ancient Indo-European tribe.
        Tribal identity is still a central factor in Mideastern affairs, as it sometimes is in Western life as well.

    • 1539days says:

      It’s the same reason we care about “genocide” more than the killing of a large group of random people. Dead Muslim children are collateral damage to rebels. Dead Christians are a goal.

      • Lulu says:

        The Christian sects have been treated badly by pretty much everyone of the powers that have occupied the geography of Syria including the European Christians. Assad treated them less worse sort of. They know the Sunni fundies will kill them all.

    • votermom says:

      RD keeps projecting her childhood hurts onto politics.
      A typical prog failing.

      • Lulu says:

        Arrested development. While I have no doubt she was hurt by someone for something “Christian” she stills views those hurts through the eyes of a teenager. I went through something similar but grew up and understand that it was individuals responsible and not a religion or even philosophy. I don’t like fundamentalists of any stripe because they are authoritarian regardless of what they call religion.

  3. driguana says:

    Hope today goes by peacefully. We’re off on a little boat ride down the inter-coastal if the weather holds. And there is this little Wednesday wowser…
    http://weaselzippers.us/2013/09/10/awesome-colorado-voters-recall-dem-state-senator-who-led-gun-control-push/

    • The Klown says:

      I haven’t discussed the Colorado recall because:

      1. I don’t live in Colorado

      2. I don’t belong to either of the two parties involved

      3. I generally oppose recalls except for official misconduct.

      But I favor the gun owners side.

      • votermom says:

        I wish we could recall a POTUS who campaigned as anti-war and then tried to unilaterally start WWII

      • driguana says:

        Yeah….totally agree on #1-3…but it may set an interesting tone. I also find it interesting that we can actually get rid of politicians in non-election times…..sometimes for the right reasons but I also suspect, sometimes for the wrong reasons.

        • Lulu says:

          I hope the tone set is that you can’t write and pass legislation based on your own personal wild hair against everything the people who voted you into office want. We have a representative democracy but any official who puts their own desires and agenda ahead of the the people they are sworn to represent is open to getting thrown out of office by an election and a recall is an election. Recalls are disruptive but so are legislators who pass shit the majority doesn’t want. I don’t know why some people are so shocked by this as the electorate is pissed at all of them.

  4. The Klown says:

    My Firstborn Son starts his new job today.

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  8. The Klown says:

    My semi-step-daughter in Indy:

    My niece just farted loudly right next to me and giggled… I couldn’t be prouder haha my kind of girl!!

    That’s my granddaughter!

  9. Lulu says:

    From perusing the news aggregation blogs it seems that switching to the Colorado recalls won by “gun nuts” is going to be the “pivot” away from news of the monumental idiocy of Obama, Kerry, McCain, Boehner, Cantor, neocons, progressive war hawks, etc. And the gun nuts may have used the lack of voter id laws to their advantage which is obviously unfair as only Dems are allowed to do that. The world is upside down for the Democrats.

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  12. wmcb says:

    So a friend on facebook picked today to post a whine about “anti-Muslim sentiment” in the USA. I’ve about had it with that shit, so I posted this on his feed:

    Sorry, Matt, but my take is that Islam needs to clean their own damn house. In the midst of lynchings and segregation, it was not “unreasonable” for people to view anyone with a Southern accent with a degree of suspicion of racism. Not to mistreat them, or automatically assume they WERE racist, but to have that in their head.

    And you know what? The onus was on the south to CLEAN UP THEIR FUCKING ACT, not on the rest of the world to treat them with kid gloves, and bend over backwards not to “associate every southerner with that.” Bullshit. If a group with which you are associated is killing and bombing and hating and committing atrocities, then you have to deal with the fact that YOU are going to be viewed with some suspicion. Want that to stop? Clean up your own damn group. Don’t go around whining that people kinda sorta assume you are a racist because you belong to that group, **while the lynchings are still going on**. Clean your damn house, and the suspicions will go away.

    I’m sick of the whining. I will never mistreat or scorn any individual Muslim, unless I know them to indeed be one of “the bad ones.” But I will NOT apologize for viewing the group as a whole with a jaundiced eye. Want that to stop, peace-loving Muslims? Wrest control of your fucking religion from the ones who want world domination, and to exterminate all cultures but yours.

  13. DeniseVB says:

    We’ll never forget. The 9-11 museum will open next spring, here’s a peek, the slideshow gave me goosebumps. It’s located next to the Twin Tower footprints which is another goosebump experience.

    http://www.metro.us/newyork/news/local/2013/09/11/at-the-911-memorial-museum-recording-a-changing-history/

    At the link there’s also a pretty cool time lapse video of the Freedom Tower going up.

    Even though Pearl Harbor happened long before we were born, their memorial should be on everyone’s bucket list. Chilling to stand on the monument’s platform looking down in the water to see the top of the Arizona. Very effective knowing you’re on top of the final resting place for over 2,000 Marines and Sailors who perished that day.

    I know there’s a Benghazi group putting together a memorial, I think it’s called “While DC Slept”. We’ll never forget them either.

  14. wmcb says:

    Ace nails it (again). Obama despises those who disagree with him. He’s a small, petty man, not a diplomat.

    http://minx.cc/?post=343304

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    • Constance says:

      I think she has become so political she simply can’t tell the truth, lies come out reflexively every time she opens her mouth.

      • wmcb says:

        She’ll do what’s best for the country, so long as it doesn’t conflict with what’s best for her party. But in a crunch, her immediate reflexive instinct is to protect Democrats first and foremost. She’s proven that. So she can’t be trusted.

  16. votermom says:

    I can’t bear to hear O’s voice, so I was checking out the transcript of last night’s lies.
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/09/10/transcript-president-obama-speech-on-syria/

    Many of you have asked a broader question: Why should we get involved at all in a place that’s so complicated and where, as one person wrote to me, those who come after Assad may be enemies of human rights?
    It’s true that some of Assad’s opponents are extremists. But Al Qaeda will only draw strength in a more chaotic Syria if people there see the world doing nothing to prevent innocent civilians from being gassed to death.

    So Obama says:
    1) It’s true that some of the rebels are Al Qaeda
    2) Even if Syria becomes more chaotic, Al Qaeda will get stronger only if the people there (by people he either means Syrians or Al Qaeda) don’t see the world stop civilians from getting gassed.

    In other words:
    Striking Syria with bombs supports the rebels some of whom are AL Qaeda.
    if we DON’T strike Syria with bombs Al Qaeda will get stronger.

    Since it seems like Al Qaeda gets stronger either way, what’s the point of doing anything?

  17. Constance says:

    Thanks for remembering both tragic terrorist attacks. The Obama administration treated the Benghazi deaths like a inconvenient public relations incident to be managed. The bold faced lying of Obama, Rice and Hillary is burned into my mind and I am angry about that. In fact instead of fading my anger gets stronger with time.

  18. helenk3 says:

    this video was made as a tribute by a commenter at Rev Amy’s Place.

  19. conner43 says:

    There are so many comments here, maybe my question will not immediately go to the Crazy File.. or maybe it should..
    This teeny tiny strike that O and Lurch want so badly, only makes sense to me if the Real weapons they want to destroy are those labeled
    “Stolen from Benghazi”..I mean all that weaponry had to land somewhere..Maybe O feels he has good info as to where in Syria they are stashed ? It is mind boggling that they still think their smuggling went unnoticed, or that the Ambassador was killed by a few guys ‘out for a walk’..

    • DeniseVB says:

      Not crazy at all 😀 I too think there’s a link and some of the rebels are blackmailing our Preezy they’d rat him out if he doesn’t take out Assad.

      How do you explain his rush to war with no viable proof ? Really odd.

    • Lulu says:

      That is a reasonable question at least to me. But I think the strike thingie was to divert attention from numerous other messes that seem to be growing exponentially. Obamacare, various scandals, Obama’s foot in mouth disease which has infected Kerry, debt ceiling, gov shutdown and stuff like that. This administration is so used to shamelessly lying, having media and other unfortunate lackwits immediately back them up irregardless of how stupid their diversion or made up “facts” or rationalizations may be that they assumed this latest stunt on Syria would proceed like all of the others before it. But it didn’t. It hit a wall, or a tipping point, or a preference cascade or people just said enough and yelled “bullshit”. Obama’s problem now is no one, NO ONE, in the world believes him on anything. Crying wolf and all that. He has zero credibility on anything.

    • votermom says:

      Stole your question

  20. DeniseVB says:

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    • leslie says:

      O’Bagy

      “A young researcher whose opinions on Syria were cited by both Senator McCain and Secretary of State John Kerry in congressional testimony last week has been fired from the Institute for the Study of War for allegedly faking her academic credentials.

      Obama doesn’t let anyone see academic credentials.
      No wonder he relied on her “facts”.

      • The Klown says:

        Here’s the part that pisses me off:

        The Syrian Emergency Task Force, the pro-rebel lobbying outfit that employs widely quoted intervention advocate Elizabeth O’Bagy as its political director, receives funding from the U.S. Department of State and related government contractors.

        She was a Potemkin “expert” – somebody they could trot out to justify their pre-existing plans.

    • Mt.Laurel says:

      OK. She looks about 12 but reports say she 24 – so yes if you go by Hollywood’s central casting rules – she is perfect for a senior analyst. And she lied about having a PHD. From Georgetown. And no one in DC ( a relatively small city both figuratively and literally) figured out she was lying? Well I guess since no one ever made BO show his credentials – all the obots are just following his lead.

  22. DeniseVB says:

  23. votermom says:

    Check it out: Why we were in Benghazi
    http://minx.cc/?post=343321

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  27. DeniseVB says:

    Meanwhile, over at the WH …..

    • Somebody says:

      Do all men put their hands that low like that? Obama and Biden look more like they have their hands on their livers……..maybe women put their hands higher because of their breasts???

      • Somebody says:

        Hmm I’m the only one that thinks the men’s hands are misplaced? Especially Slow Joe’s he almost has a Napoleon thing going on, just a little lower!

    • conner43 says:

      Most of the people there look respectful, and yet there’s Ms Sleeveless looking like a gaudy eggplant.

  28. wmcb says:

    I am sick and fucking tired of Dems rewriting history. And frankly, I didn’t realize until the last 5 years the extent to which they do it. Constantly.

    • Somebody says:

      That’s common, I’ve had that discussion with WAY too many people to count. They always insist W went to war without consent from Congress and therefore it was an illegal war. You can’t convince them otherwise no matter the proof you provide……..kind of like Sarah Palin said she can see Russia from her porch.

      I also thought it was interesting that Obama pointed out last night the “Lessons of Iraq”, when you overthrow a dictator…….but apparently there were no such lessons learned in Egypt or Libya.

      • leslie says:

        They also like to say that bronco voted against the war. He was in no position to vote for or against it as he was still a pseudo-legislator in Springfield, Illinois.

  29. DeniseVB says:

    The Cain site has more photos of the bikers they culled off twitter, some I haven’t seen — and a dig at Obama on his bike 🙂 There was a blank spot scrolling down, keep scrolling past that too….

    http://www.caintv.com/2-million-bikers-roll-on-washi

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