Open Thread: The Creepy GOP v. Nancy Mace Edition


Nancy is primarying Lindsey Graham for his Senate seat in South Carolina and the state GOP is mad about this. Rumor has it that they will be finding another GOPer to run in the primary simply to steal enough votes from Nancy so Graham will easily win. Ugh.

Nancy’s looking for 10,000 *likes* on her Facebook today with only about 65 more needed to reach her goal. If you’re on FB, go likey Nancy Mace !

What else is going on in the world ? Have a great Monday!

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137 Responses to Open Thread: The Creepy GOP v. Nancy Mace Edition

  1. wmcb says:

  2. DeniseVB says:

    I saw where myiq needed an a.m. thread starter so I threw this one up. Speaking of throwing up, the Emmys were horrible, not just the show, but realized I didn’t know most of the actors, or their characters and the shows they were on. Sorry I fell asleep, so here’s the list of winners and who they beat:

  3. DeniseVB says:

    Looks like Obama turned the Navy Yard Memorial into a campaign event.

    It’s all he knows how to do.

  4. elliesmom says:

    I “liked” Nancy Mace months ago. She’s an interesting alternative to Graham, but I have never believed Graham’ s group would allow her to win the nomination no matter what it would take.

    • DeniseVB says:

      I thought I *liked* her too, but the page showed I didn’t ? Hmmmm?

      She may have a shot at beating Graham if Sarah swoops in and rattles the GOP cages 🙂

      • elliesmom says:

        Her FB posts show up on my newsfeed so I think my “Like” took. I belong to an informal group which offers support and encouragement to women who take on entering schools which are newly open to women. She came onto my radar screen when she entered the Citadel.

  5. wmcb says:

    Yeah, so it is playing out exactly as we predicted. Putin conned Obama into throwing Syria into the UN’s court, and now Russia can control the agenda so nothing gets done anytime soon about any chemical weapons.

    I’m tremendously glad that the USA didn’t go to war, but anyone who thinks it’s because of Obama’s brilliant moves is a fooking idiot.

    • DeniseVB says:

      Obama’s going to NYC today to have “meetings” near the UN, gird your loins midtown !

      11:25 am || Departs White House
      12:35 pm || Arrives New York City
      1:45 pm || Bilateral meeting with Nigerian President Goodluck Jonathan; Waldorf Astoria
      3:00 pm || Holds a Civil Society Roundtable; New York Hilton Midtown
      5:20 pm|| Meets with USUN Mission employees and their families; Waldorf Astoria
      8:50 pm || Attends reception for visiting heads of state; Waldorf Astoria

    • Propertius says:

      It’s only fair, since nobody is going to do anything about the chemical weapons the “rebels” apparently retrieved from Libya during the “revolution”.

    • r u reddy says:

      Let’s just be glad we haven’t gone to war yet. Lets be gladder if Assad can keep Syria and the nerve gas out of the hands of the cannibal liver-eating al Qaeda rebels.

  6. The Klown says:

    I will stick to my standard policy with state and local elections I am not involved in and take no position.

    I will also stay with my general policy of recommending opposition to incumbents whenever there is any doubt.

  7. The Klown says:

    Global warming ‘hiatus’ puts climate change scientists on the spot

    It’s a climate puzzle that has vexed scientists for more than a decade and added fuel to the arguments of those who insist man-made global warming is a myth.

    Since just before the start of the 21st century, the Earth’s average global surface temperature has failed to rise despite soaring levels of heat-trapping greenhouse gases and years of dire warnings from environmental advocates.

    Now, as scientists with the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change gather in Sweden this week to approve portions of the IPCC’s fifth assessment report, they are finding themselves pressured to explain this glaring discrepancy.


    Though scientists don’t have any firm answers, they do have multiple theories.

    What happened to “The science is settled”?

    I’d frontpage this if I didn’t feel like shinola.

    • votermom says:

      Feel better , klown.
      Can’t blog today, got errands.

    • r u reddy says:

      If the Global has really stopped Warming, then the ice fields and glaciers will stop melting and retreating, and the Arctic Ocean sea ice will grow back to its recent former size. If the Global has started re-cooling, then the ice fields and glaciers will grow back to where they were fifty years ago, and so will the Arctic sea ice. If the Global really has stopped Warming.

      Which would be a good thing, even if some scientists get embarrassed.

  8. DeniseVB says:

    Nice article on Hillary Clinton, of course it is, it’s the New Yorker !

    I’m sure she’s waiting until after the 2014 election to make any decisions. If Obama takes back the House and keeps the Senate, he’ll get the rest of his miserable agenda passed and she’ll be guaranteed the 2016 win because no Republican will be elected ever again.

    • thewizardofroz says:

      Just to note that it’s in “New York Magazine” not “The New Yorker.”

    • r u reddy says:

      Why would she want to be President now? The things she could have prevented as President were created by Obama, and the things she might have tried to achieve have been destroyed beyond rescue by Obama. Why would she want to step into the radioactive tar pit he has left behind?

  9. DeniseVB says:

    Ever wonder what Monopoly (the board game) properties look like in real life?

  10. wmcb says:

    • DandyTIger says:

      But they are the fatcat cronies, just like the establishment Dems. They are awake. They’re just struggling to be as good at distracting and fooling the voters like the Dems have.

      • wmcb says:

        There are some on the GOP side who are not into the Machine. The D side pretty much purged them all. First party to get taken over by the populists wins the whole shebang. Otherwise GOP splinters into libertarian vs. old guard, and loses big. (The D’s will not splinter at this point.)

        • DandyTIger says:

          You may be right. A few populists in the GOP, pretty much none on the Dem side. If there were a libertarian split, with enough to built up a party, it might just siphon off a lot of Dems and independents and become real. But I wouldn’t hold my breath. Frankly, I’m not holding my breath for anything good from either party or a third.

        • DandyTIger says:

          Sadly, I don’t think it’s in either parties short term interests to fix anything. Which means we’ll keep going until a hard crash/reset. Which will happen.

        • Constance says:

          The thing is the Dems have rounded up the stupid voters and there are a lot of really stupid people. All the Republicans need to do is figure out how to stop alienating stupid people and they start winning elections. Looking like you oppose birth control is not a good way to win votes.

  11. wmcb says:

  12. wmcb says:

    • wmcb says:

      • wmcb says:

        Studies have shown that the most stressful jobs in existence are jobs that combine massive responsibility with zero control. Either of those is bearable on it’s own. In combination they are deadly.

        Solution? Go like you are just punching a time clock, and stop actually giving a fuck. Check the appropriate boxes for the govt and paymasters, and you’re good. Keeping the bureaucratic overseers happy becomes your primary job. That’s the future of medicine in this country.

        • Jadzia says:

          As a former law firm associate, I TOTALLY agree with this, and would only add to the stressors, “total accountability.” Back when I worked at Skadden, I had a friend (still is my BFF) who is the most sane, normal, balanced lady you will ever meet. By her last few months at the firm, she was fantasizing about driving her car off a bridge every morning on her way to work. To the extent that she had to vary her route.

      • votermom says:

        I heard a radio caller from some east european country talking about the national healthcare that he escaped from. Doctors were either unmotivated butchers who couldn’t care less about the patients because the govt paid them anyway; or rarely, good docs who took in blackmarket payments/barters from patients desperate to avoid the aforementioned butchers.

    • votermom says:

  13. Somebody says:

    Here is an odd thing that happened to my daughter. Last April she applied for a variety of jobs, one she tried to apply for was a data base position with the state of Florida. Unfortunately there was a glitch in the state’s employment website so that when she applied for that job when it went through it told her thanks for applying with the state of Florida for the position of DMV clerk @ $8.50 an hour.

    She called, she emailed, she did all kinds of stuff trying to apply for the real job, but nobody could help her. She laughed and said well they’d better at least call me for that clerk job or I’m going to be offended. She had just finished up her masters and had 7 years experience at a car dealership doing all sorts of things including car titles. She worked her way up to an administrative level there before leaving for grad school.

    So today she finally hears from the state of Florida. They told her they hired a different candidate for the DMV clerk job because the other candidate had 1) more education and 2) more experience.

    Hmmmmm, I can’t wait to head down to the DMV to renew my license and meet the professor they hired!! Talk about education inflation, sheesh! Now you need a PHD to work as a DMV clerk?

    Oh well my daughter landed a good job with a fortune 50 company so she’s not sweating it, but she was quite surprised she figured they’d at least interview her. Speaking of which they just filled that position from last April???? No wonder there is a long wait at DMV, but oh my what a brain trust eh? Perhaps they can start night classes and boost revenue for the state?

    • votermom says:

      I always assume that getting a govt job depends on connections. That’s how all the govt bureaucracies I’ve ever interacted with work.

    • 49erDweet says:

      I have to say DMV may seem like a no-win, but I went in in my middling 50’s as a part time clerk and because they only promote from within in three years had received three nice promotions and become a manager. Next 14 years had three more major promotions and when I retired had my own office with over 50 ee’s. I had fun and upset a whole bunch of applecarts, too. It’s fun battling bureaucrats from the inside using their own hidden weapons.

      • Somebody says:

        But do you have a PHD 49er?

        I’m sure it was a standard form letter they sent her. I don’t really think they hired somebody with a PHD, but if they truly had more education than her that’s what they’d need.

  14. helenk3 says:

    anybody here in the DC area?

    two marines Adam Shatarski and Chris Senopole started at Camp Pendleton on June 15 2013 and have walked across the country and will arrive in DC on October 7 2013. they are walking for Wounded Warriors.

    Just an idea: As we walk into DC on the 7th we would like to have as many people as possible finish with us! Whether you walk the last mile or more we wanted it to be a group effort as we walk to 8th and I. Can we make this happen?!

    they are on facebook The Wounded Walk

    • DandyTIger says:

      Nice. I’ll check that out.

    • Mt.Laurel says:

      I will be taking my Mom back up to PA for her doctors appointments but will pass along the info.

      O/T: People just looked at me cross eyed when I said we were keeping my mother’s doctors in PA when she moved in with me in Maryland. I tired to explain that is was already nightmare to find a doc, let alone one who would take on a new Medicare patient and it was just going to get worse. Now everyone is asking me how I knew it was going to be harder to find and keep docs and insurance under O’Care, not better. Can you tell I am surrounded by bots who bought the lies hook, line and sinker?

  15. The Klown says:
    • The Klown says:
      • wmcb says:

        Ha! Gabe is a good guy, but he lives in DC and is immersed in Beltwaythink.

        • votermom says:

          Gabe makes me think of Michael Medved – alway sparroting the establishment line

        • wmcb says:

          He’s funny, because his actual beliefs are quite libertarianish small govt. But the moment there is a threat to the establishment GOP, he gets all knee-jerk protective.

          I think sometimes he has too much emotionally invested in his party, and still thinks “they’ll get there” when in reality it’s going to take the “radicals” shaking things up to do it.

          Or it may be that he’s so scared of risking losing that he won’t risk winning. Me, with no particular loyalties can yell “Go for it.” Because I already believe that if we don’t break the duopoly (in reality, even if still under the R label) we are sunk anyway and the non-progs balkanize politically.

  16. DeniseVB says:

    I love the UK’s Mail Online photos. These are the Emmy fashions, a nice break from looking at the graphic images from the Westgate Mall :

    Just noting Alec Baldwin’s creepy hands on his daughter’s hips and Lena Dunham’s ballsy choice 🙂

  17. The Klown says:

    This is classic Obama:

    The most important red line of Barack Obama’s presidency was scrawled hastily in January 2007, a few weeks before he even announced he was running for president.

    Soon-to-be-candidate Obama, then an Illinois senator, was thinking about turning down an invitation to speak at a big health care conference sponsored by the progressive group Families USA, when two aides, Robert Gibbs and Jon Favreau, hit on an idea that would make him appear more prepared and committed than he actually was at the moment.

    Why not just announce his intention to pass universal health care by the end of his first term?

    Thus was born Obamacare, a check-the-box, news-cycle expedient that would ultimately define a president.

    “We needed something to say,” recalled one of the advisers involved in the discussion. “I can’t tell you how little thought was given to that thought other than it sounded good. So they just kind of hatched it on their own. It just happened. It wasn’t like a deep strategic conversation.”

    • The Klown says:

      Still, Obama continued to attack Clinton even as he took up her life’s mission.

      At the advice of his political advisers, Obama sought to undercut Clinton by accusing her of pushing for an individual mandate — an idea borrowed from Republicans that polled poorly with independents and conservative Democrats in critical battlegrounds like Pennsylvania and Ohio.

      Aides say Obama was simply looking for any way to differentiate himself from an opponent whose basic policy positions were indistinguishable from his own. After Clinton dropped out in June 2008, Obama was privately telling his staff that any health care reform he proposed would most likely include a mandate.

  18. helenk3 says:

    it is sanity not anarchy.
    republicans not treated the same as kidnappers and terrorists

  19. votermom says:

    Btw, I watched World War Z on dvd this weekend then saw the news about jihadis storming Nairobi mall. Can’t help seeing the parallels.

  20. wmcb says:

  21. votermom says:

    A rumor at this point I think
    Wife Of 2012 London Tube Bomber, “White Widow”, Reported To Be Leader of Nairobi Mall Massacre, Giving “Veil Barked Orders” To Gunmen –

  22. The Klown says:
  23. The Klown says:

    A classic:

  24. Lulu says:

    Sen “Olde Priss” Graham says Obamacare “sucks” really bad and there are Senate Dems up for re-election that have an “albatross” around their necks are ready to kill it. He thinks there will be a compromise or something. I guess Obama will have to shut it down or eat it.

    • t says:

      The fvcking toothpaste is already out of the tube. My premiums are soaring for hardly any health insurance coverage for everyday things. If they take away subsidies too, it’s only going to hurt people like me, consumers. But of course, we are just pawns.

      • Constance says:

        Obama care was never about you or other citizens it was about guaranteeing profits to certain insurance companies. In the last few years my co pay has gone from $5 to $25. So now people have insurance they can’t afford to use. The whole system needs to come undone and a new one needs to develop. And the government needs to mind their own business they aren’t capable of doing anything but making matters worse.

      • Lulu says:

        That is the old “sunk costs” argument. We have already sunk this much money in and if we just keep spending it will get better, and all this trouble and hassle we might as well go all in. It doesn’t get better. More money, less services for everyone, half-assing it, patching, fudging, messing with the margins, does not make a horrible plan better. All it does it waste MORE money, harm more people, and turn everything on its head. IF, big if, this did not harm every other facet of the economy, society, and our national interest I would say just go for it and screw it. This is going to beggar us. Your premiums have just started to rise and it is going to hurt you in ways you cannot imagine. So if you want to be a pawn and give up do it. I am not. It needs to be scrapped now. Then we learn from the mistakes of Obama the Money Pit and throw the morons out.

        • Lulu says:

          By the way, all of the details have been kept hidden for what like 4 years. If all of this shit came out a few years ago it would have been scrapped. But Obama-ites hide the details and then argue fait acompli, it is too late, look at all the wasted money and time, etc. That was the plan. Do it on the sneak and then it is too late they argue. What is done with a money pit? Tear that fucker down and start over.

  25. wmcb says:

    I have a seething contempt for this bitch. Seriously, And no, I won’t apologize for the word. Be glad I didn’t use the other one.

    • DeniseVB says:

      Were you referring to Pelosi? She’s as insane as Chris “Tingles” Matthews who said he was going to do everything in his power to get Hillary elected in 2016. A pox on their hypocrisies.

      • wmcb says:

        I won’t vote for Hillary now, but that doesn’t make what they did right. I can still hear the assholes screaming that the WORD “inexperienced” was a racist dogwhistle and the same as calling him n***er.

        So Pelosi’s a belated racist now? Filthy self-serving craven bitch. I will never forgive that shit. NEVER.


  26. helenk3 says:

    so lois lerner gets a long paid vacation on our dime. now she gets a good lifetime pension on our dime.
    think she will ever get any jail time on our dime? doubt it

    • DeniseVB says:

      Lerner should pay restituition to those groups who lost donations by her delays. I’m sure there’s a tea party attorney somewhere who could start a civil action. 😀

  27. The Klown says:
  28. The Klown says:


    Monday, a suspended seventh grade Virginia Beach student will find out if he is expelled for the rest of the year for shooting an airsoft gun.

    Like thousands of others in Hampton Roads, Khalid Caraballo plays with airsoft guns. Caraballo and his friend Aidan were suspended because they shot two other friends who were with them while playing with the guns as they waited for the bus to come.

    WAVY News’ Andy Fox spoke with Khalid and asked if he took the gun to the bus stop or school. Khalid answered “No, sir,” to both questions.

    Aidan’s father Tim Clark told what happened next lacks commons sense. The children were suspended for possession, handling and use of a firearm.

    A toy gun that never went to the bus stop, the bus or school.

    • DandyTIger says:

      AirSoft is super big around that area. One of the biggest facilities in the country is there. Very family and kid friendly. So, must be evil.

    • DandyTIger says:

      I predict a lot of money coming to that family after the civil lawsuit.

    • votermom says:

      So because there’s a zero tolerance policy in schools, you can be expelled for shooting an airgun while on private property.
      I suppose, since prayer us not allowed in schools, you can also be disciplined for praying before heading to the bus stop, right?

  29. helenk3 says:

    It’s back
    first twinkies now wonder bread

    wonder how those union bakers that closed Hostess feel now
    expendable maybe?

  30. helenk3 says:

    At roundtable on citizen activism around the world, Obama laments
    governments seeking to stifle and crack down on such activity – @markknoller

    should we laugh or cry at the hypocrisy

  31. helenk3 says:

    Americans are fleeing saying goodbye to tax hungry America.

    renouncing American citizenship.

    something I never ever thought I would see in my lifetime

  32. The Klown says:

    I am conserving my energies for tonight’s MNF game. Raiders in Denver.

    I predict ugly and painful.

  33. Lulu says:

    Super clean butt marketing is causing serious and expensive city sewer problems. ” Increasingly popular bathroom wipes — pre-moistened towelettes that are often advertised as flushable — are being blamed for creating clogs and backups in sewer systems around the nation.”
    “The problem got worldwide attention in July when London sewer officials reported removing a 15-ton “bus-sized lump” of wrongly flushed grease and wet wipes, dubbed the “fatberg.”
    ““Only flush pee, poop and toilet paper,” he said, “because those are the only things that sanitary sewers were really designed for in the old days.”

  34. westcoaster says:

    I think it’s interesting that the Anglicans in Ireland went ahead and appointed a woman bishop right after the Anglicans in England decided they would wait until the end of 2015…

  35. helenk3 says:

    you can not make this up

    CAIR has changed it’s name to The Washington Trust Foundation or

  36. 1539days says:

    A YouTube ad I actually watched all the way through.

  37. helenk3 says:

    for those who think the military should not be armed

    wonder if an armed military person could have saved lives at the DC Navy Yard

  38. helenk3 says:

    backtrack’s answer to the debt reduction

  39. helenk3 says:

    anybody else notice that all of a sudden the democrats found religion?

    unless you agree with welfare and obamacare you are going against what God wants.
    these are the same people that did not want God in their platform

  40. wmcb says:

    Liar. Someone needs to find examples of McConnell voting against cloture for bills he supports.

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