If Jay Carney Keeps Lying He’ll Never Become A Real Boy


Via Hot Air:

The idea that negotiating over the debt limit is somehow “unprecedented” has been debunked over and over, with the Washington Post awarding Obama Four Pinocchios for his statement that, “You have never seen in the history of the United States the debt ceiling or the threat of not raising the debt being used to extort a president or a governing party and trying to force issues that have nothing to do with the budget and nothing to do with the debt.”

In fact, you saw it from Congressional Democrats during the Nixon administration, 25 times with 25 different nongermane items from 1978 to 1987, and it was used successfully in 1980 to repeal one of Carter’s unpopular energy measures. The president keeps using this word, “unprecedented.” I do not think it means what he thinks it means.

Carney’s last response is classic, as he tries to explain how then-Sen. Obama’s vote to not raise the debt ceiling was somehow not a vote to “default,” as the White House claims Republicans taking the exact same vote would be today.

“The president voted against raising the debt ceiling as a senator to make a point about what he believed were wrong fiscal priorities of that administration,” Carney replied. “What then Senator Obama never did was say, ‘I will vote to default if I don’t get what I want.’”

A distinction without a difference. And, lest we forget Obama’s remarks on the occasion of his vote for default because he wasn’t getting what he wanted:

The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. Government can’t pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies. … Increasing America’s debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that “the buck stops here.” Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better.


I once told Capital One that it was their responsibility to raise my debt ceiling and I was not going to negotiate with them about it. The guy on the phone called me a deadbeat and told me I was over my credit limit.

The thing that really bothers me about Jay Carney isn’t that he lies – all White House Press Secretaries lie sometimes. What bothers me is that he lies so badly and blatantly that it is an insult to our intelligence.

Unfortunately, the media usually lets him get away with it.


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53 Responses to If Jay Carney Keeps Lying He’ll Never Become A Real Boy

  1. The Klown says:

    I must admit that is a part of me that wants to see the Republicans dig in their heels and let it burn. Sooner or later Judgment Day is coming anyway.

  2. DeniseVB says:

    Looks like Obama bypassed Congress to throw some money at Detroit.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/09/27/ahead-talks-feds-find-100m-for-broke-detroit/

    That should help, right? 🙂

  3. DeniseVB says:

    Just turned on the news and Fox is just giddy about Obama blaming them for not supporting his policies and making it hard for him or something. Ratings should spike ! Heh.

    • The Klown says:

      You are following the wrong Klown on Twitter. I am the @realmyiq2xu

      The other one is an Obot troll.

      • indigogrrl1 says:

        OK ~ I don’t really Twitter …but I ‘ll try to fix that!

      • The Klown says:

        Oops, my bad – he is following YOU. Spam block his ass,.

        • indigogrrl1 says:

          how in the hell do I do that! (psst using an iPhone…)

        • The Klown says:

          I don’t know nuthin’ ’bout them newfangled gadgets, but on your Twitter account look at “followers” and then click the doohicky on the upper right hand side that looks like someone’s head and shoulders. Then click on “report for spam”

        • DandyTIger says:

          On the iPhone twitter app, click on the person’s picture in your timeline. You see under their info a little head/shoulders icon on the left, and a button saying Following or Follow on the right. Hit the head/shoulders icon. It pops up a menu of choices. One of the choices is Report span, another is Block, and there are others. You want to both Block and Report span. You also want to unfollow (hit the Following button which gives you a choice of Unfollow or Cancel).

        • indigogrrl1 says:

          FTR ~ I did NOT follow him! …but thanks boyz… I have now successfully blocked and reported his stoopid ass!

        • DandyTIger says:

          Great. Everyone spam blocking him, whether you follow him or not, will eventually lead to him being smacked.

        • OT but what is up with the teensy-weensy minds of obots who do idiocy like this? Have they no lives? I realize TCH’s Klown is an internationally known and admired figure, but that’s gotta be some sicko. Sorry, Klown.

        • Propertius says:

          Better yet, close your Twitter account. If you’re not paying for the product, you are the product.

    • You do realize that linked article was another attempt to “sell” the imminent doom theory, right?

      “We must all trust science, destroy our cars and stop eating meat, else we will surely die”.

      • wmcb says:

        LOL! Yeah, I saw that. Maybe the poll respondents “stuck with their original answer” because they are smart enough to know that the “facts” being presented to them to change their minds are not actually “facts” and not to be trusted.

        Alternate title for the study “Study shows the marks are not nearly so gullible as we’d like them to be.”

  4. Somebody says:

    Jay Carney makes Baghdad Bob look credible

  5. The Klown says:
  6. The Klown says:

    Via Hot Air:

    Treasury Secretary Jack Lew said a U.S. debt default could be catastrophic. But President Barack Obama said Thursday he will not “not negotiate on anything when it comes to the full faith and credit of the United States of America.” That is, no negotiating with Republicans.

    Yet, the American people support, by a two-to-one margin, a requirement for spending cuts when negotiating more borrowing authority for the government to pay its bills, according to a new Bloomberg News poll.

    The White House “is for cutting spending. We’re for reforming our tax code, for reforming entitlements,” said senior White House adviser Dan Pfeiffer.

    “What we’re not for is negotiating with people with a bomb strapped to their chest,” he added.

    House Republicans are not asking for a negotiation, but rather demanding a hefty ransom, said Pfeiffer.

    “It is not a negotiation if I show up at your house and say, ‘Give me everything inside or I’m going to burn it down.’ The Republicans have provided a laundry list of essentially ransom demands,” he noted.

    “I love the smell of napalm in the morning. It smells like . . . victory”

  7. The Klown says:

    Jay Carney’s eviler twin:

  8. The Klown says:
  9. The Klown says:

    Cloture vote coming at 12:30 eastern.

  10. The Klown says:
    • 49erDweet says:

      Part of me agrees with you, Helen, but part of me thinks it’s Habitat that is holding up the building process, and probably they are right to be sensitive to neighbors’ concerns. It doesn’t seem like the neighbors are worried about the vet and his family, just the construction of the home. They may be wrong about there being a covenant of some type in existence, but if the other homes are brick there’s certainly as basis for belief one exists. I think Morton, IL residents would have been better served opening up a funding raising program to get HfH to revamp the plans from wood frame to masonry.

  11. votermom says:

    Dems are always projecting:

  12. foxyladi14 says:

    And the beat goes on. 😯

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