Was Single-Payer the Plan All Along?

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Single-payer healthcare has been in the news again lately. Some Democratic politicians like Dingy Harry and Naughty Nancy have been claiming that they originally wanted Single-payer but the Republicans wouldn’t let them so they settled for Obamacare. That story is bullshit for two reasons.

First of all, the Republicans had Obamacare shoved down their throats. It was passed without a single GOP vote. So if the Democrats wanted Single-payer they could have passed it the same way.

More importantly, the first thing they did when they started discussing healthcare reform was take Single-payer off the table. There was a conspiracy of silence among the A-list lefty bloggers. The reason I know this is because I was (and still is) an advocate for a properly implemented Single-payer program. I even wrote a couple posts about all of this when we were still at the other place.

But wait! There’s more!

Now the Single-payer revisionists are floating the story that Single-payer was the plan all along. They passed Obamacare so they could “fix it” into Single-payer. I don’t believe it. The Democrats aren’t that smart, even if they are that devious. The current bunch would fuck-up a two-car parade.

Luckily for them the Republicans are even more inept.


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56 Responses to Was Single-Payer the Plan All Along?

  1. The Klown says:
    • DeniseVB says:

      Obama should hand over his Peace Prize to Malala then. 😀

      • fif says:

        Isn’t the contrast profound? To see that unbelievably authentic and courageous 16 year old sitting in the Oval Office with the Fraud clearly illustrates the absurdity of his Nobel Peace Prize.

  2. votermom says:

    I used to think single payer would be a good thing. Obamacare cured me of that.
    Too much of the success of single payer is premised on honest , non-corrupt governance.

    • mcnorman says:

      Single payer is not an option until the insurers can figure out how to extort their cut. Make no mistake, single payer has been on the lips of many for well over two decades.

      • Constance says:

        Very true. We have Obamacare because it allows multinational corporations to continue collecting huge profits from our healthcare services. I don’t think the government can solve this. I do think a large non-profit like the Gates Foundation could start a basic clinic you could belong to for low tech medical help. The solution has to be outside of government because government is corrupt and chooses the needs of multinational corporations and illegal aliens over Citizens every chance it gets.

  3. DeniseVB says:

    Ooops, sorry about the post. You can take it down or I’ll keep updating mine with truckers’ stuff ? I think we can handle it, two different topics that is 😉

  4. votermom says:

    I love Big Bang Theory but Chuck Lorre is psycho

    CHUCK LORRE PRODUCTIONS, #425

    Perhaps I’ve read too much science fiction, but I can’t help thinking that the way out of this protracted battle over universal health care is a good ol’ Edgar Allan Poe/Michael Crichton-style plague. Who’s going to bicker over access to medical care or insurance deductibles if one wet cough from a busboy kills all the rack o’ lamb-eating small government advocates in the restaurant? Who’s going to fight against pre-existing condition coverage when it becomes frighteningly clear that we are all, rich and poor, smart and stupid, cute and inbred, swimming in the exact same bacterial soup? I’m betting no one. Because when that day happens, helping a sick person get well will not be an act of mercy or generosity. It will be the very definition of selfishness. And if history has taught us anything, selfishness rocks the casbah. Of course, there is plenty of sci-fi literature that takes this story down an even darker path. It involves everyone with a wet cough getting rounded up at gunpoint and trucked into “rehabilitation camps” in North Dakota. A privileged young man, raised on rack o’ lamb, sees their suffering and sacrifices himself in order to lead them to a free clinic in Canada. When things are looking particularly grim in their march out of viral bondage, a small government advocate smiles cruelly and says to the young man, “Where’s your health insurance now, Moses?”

    • DeniseVB says:

      Taking healthcare advice from Lorre, is like taking healthcare advice from Obama 😉

      Sidebar: Haven’t forgiven Chuck Lorre’s “brilliance” for not accepting MY idea to bring Ashton Kutcher to the Two and a Half Men as Charlie’s son when they fired Sheen. Kutcher’s age would have been perfect with an earlier storyline of Charlie bragging about losing his virginity to the school nurse when he was 14. Now they’ve added “Charlie’s long lost gay daughter” ? Sigh.

  5. leslie says:

    Not only did they take single-payer off the table, they shut the doors to the WH in the faces of the people who were to meet with bronco when they arrived in DC. They were to meet with Prez Petulance after they had caravanned from Oregon to DC with stops in cities along the way where they gathered signatures, funds and support. Bronco Left. The. WH. the day they arrived and they were refused admission to the talks.

  6. Mary says:

    In the new NBC/WSJ poll, the president’s approval number among Independents is 16. Only 16% of Independents think he’s doing a good job.

    And yet, he’s still cocky as ever. Amazing!

  7. Jadzia says:

    Myiq, I sign onto this post, except that you are wrong about one thing:

    The Democrats could fuck up a ONE-car parade.

    FIFY.

  8. Lulu says:

    Was single payer a goal of Obamacare?
    Hell no. Obamacrats are all about Pay to Play or “gimme my cut”. They are parasitic like the mafia. It is supposed to be a way to fund Obama Democrats forever, just like green energy, labor unions dues, education “Challenges”, and various other disasters which extract wealth directly into Obamacratic pockets.

    It was supposed to be single payer all along is Ass Covering 101. Now Republican ass-coverers like McCain are claiming “No one fought harder against Obamacare than me!” Liar. He did squat because like Obama he thought it was Obama’s turn to extract wealth.

    • DeniseVB says:

      Wasn’t Obamacare written by Big Pharma and Big Health (insurance companies) ? Yes, it had everything to do with their profits. So it seems and the clusterf**k rolls out. 😀

      • Lulu says:

        One of the elements that is not getting that much press is the fact that many policies are not Obamacare compliant for really rinky-dinky reasons. This was a feature of Obamacare to cancel policies and increase premiums enormously to the benefit of insurers (and bypass state insurance commissions). It has really hit businesses hard and now it is hitting the individual market. This was done on purpose in the legislation for the benefit of big insurance.

  9. SHV says:

    “Some Democratic politicians like Dingy Harry and Naughty Nancy have been claiming that they originally wanted Single-payer but the Republicans wouldn’t let them so they settled for Obamacare. ”
    *******
    All bullshit….Biden spilled the beans when he said that single payer was never an option and the “public option” (also a fraud as presented) also was never considered. Early in the process, when legislation was just being presented, Sebelius said on NPR that the President would make sure that the ACA would be written so that it could never evolve into a single payer system.

  10. Somebody says:

    Pardon me for going OT, but I was just walking past the TV and they were showing film of “Senate Republicans” going into the WH to meet with Obama. Arriving with the group and proceeding into the WH was Pat Buchanan…….WTH? He’s not a Senator???

  11. votermom says:

    Sorry for the typo

  12. helenk3 says:

    http://weaselzippers.us/2013/10/11/healthcare-gov/

    why is this not a surprise? the wrong numbers used for calculation

  13. DeniseVB says:

    This is a pdf transcript of Ted Cruz’s speech in read only format so no one can change it 😀 At first it looks like a blank page, just scroll down to begin the transcript. Did I tell you, I hate pdf formats, but this one is worth it ….

    http://www.thecloakroomblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/1012FRC-Cruz.pdf

    • Mary says:

      Oh God, don’t tell me somebody in the Obama administration is related to or owes something to somebody in the Canadian IT firm.

      Word is, the original contract was for around $93 million, but it’s gone up to around $600 million.

      Another Solyndra?

  14. gxm17 says:

    I wish.

  15. DandyTIger says:

    I don’t see single payer either. But…

  16. Propertius says:

    No, single-payer wasn’t “the plan”. The whole point behind the ACA was to destroy any chance of single-payer for at least a generation.

    Mission accomplished!

    • r u reddy says:

      That and several decades of forced-mandate bailout for Big Insura.
      IF the Republicans take the House, Senate, and White House by 2016,
      the remaining Shitobamacrats and the remaining Big Bussiness Republicans will find a way to keep Obamacare the law, and to prevent anyone from getting it repealed.
      For the same pro-upperclass reasons that the Roberts Court came up with the twisted pretzelogic sophistry needed to uphold the Forced Mandate.
      That is my conditional prediction.

  17. helenk3 says:

    http://www.libertynews.com/2013/10/non-essential-harry-reid-closes-his-senate-office-the-38-second-phone-message-you-have-to-hear/

    per harry reid, he and his staff are non essential government employees. sounds good to me

  18. helenk3 says:

    GOP senators: No deal reached in meeting with Obama; good discussion of budget and debt limit – @jamiedupree

  19. wmcb says:

    Depends on what you mean by “single payer.” If you mean UK style system, then no. If you mean destroying what exists and gradually moving the entire healthcare apparatus to govt control, to be doled out to whatever profiteers they find useful, then yes.

    • wmcb says:

      This admin and the vile progs driving it are not socialists (distasteful as I find socialism). They are fascists. That’s the direction they trend, every time. They don’t want to get rid of industry, have govt itself to run everything. Too much work and public accountability. They want govt to control industry, run industry, pick and choose industry, while at same time using industry as the “evil foil”.

      Authoritarian Statists have learned much from mistakes of socialism/communism. Fascism enables much better PR and demagoguing and deniability.

      • Lulu says:

        They are fascists absolutely. This is one of the reasons that they can spew such murderous hateful crap without blinking. It was obvious in 2007-2008.

    • Propertius says:

      There are all kinds of single-payer systems – the British NHS is only one model. In the Canadian and French systems, physicians are still in private practice (and you get to choose your own doctor). The Canadian system also allows the purchase of private insurance instead of (or in addition to) the public insurance plan, but almost nobody does it. Or, as Mrs. Propertius (a Canadian national) puts it:

      Back home, if you get sick you got to the doctor and you get well. No claim forms, no copays. You just go to the doctor and you get well. I don’t understand why things have to be so complicated down here.

  20. helenk3 says:

    http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2013/10/remember_obamas_civilian_national_security_force.html

    remember backtrack’s national security force???

    a must read

    I keep thinking of this every time i read about another NPS outrage

  21. helenk3 says:

    Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas, on GOP Obama meeting: ‘What could have been a productive conversation was instead another predictable lecture from the President that did not lay out a new path forward’ – statement via @NBCNews

    • Lulu says:

      Cornyn is on notice in Texas. He is already running campaign ads. He suddenly got all tough and stuff when he got a zillion nasty emails and phone calls. Mine was especially blunt and I didn’t even cuss. Asshole.

  22. SHV says:

    Gen. Giap died at age 102. No mention on US media sites….who cares about history when we have the Chicago Jeebus in the WH.

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