Can’t Anybody Here Play This Game?

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All they had to do to win was nothing:

House Republicans Show Themselves To Be Dangerously Incompetent, Again

House Republican leaders canceled plans to call a vote Tuesday evening on a Republican plan to raise the debt limit and reopen the government. They couldn’t round up enough Republican votes to pass it.

In fact, this is the least stunning event ever. The bill would have raised the debt ceiling. It would have changed Obamacare, Republicans’ white whale, in only the most trivial ways. The powerful conservative pressure group Heritage Action opposed it. Of course Speaker John Boehner couldn’t get the votes.

The only stunning thing is that anyone still looks at House Republicans and says: “You know what would be great? Giving these people more power over public policy.”

Roughly one-third of this caucus thinks hitting the debt ceiling and shutting down the government are great strategies to try to stop Obamacare. The other two-thirds of the party has realized all along that this strategy sucks, but they could not find any way to stop their party from implementing it — even though these “reasonable” Republicans outnumber the crazies.

[…]

A party that is this bad at tactics can’t be expected to be any good at policy-making.


Jeebus, this is embarrassing to watch. I’m not a Republican or a conservative but I was rooting for them to win this one. I feel like a casual visitor at a dysfunctional family’s reality television season finale.

The GOP doesn’t have much leverage at the moment. Obama resided in the White House and thanks to a few RINOs the Republicans can’t even manage a successful filibuster in the Senate. They do hold the House of Representatives, but even if they could pick up a few votes in the Senate Obama would veto anything they pass.

But this was a gimme. All they had to do to win was nothing.

Okay, “win” is a slippery term. They obviously were not going to get any big policy victories. “Defund Obamacare” was a non-starter. Repealing Obamacare ain’t happening unless they win the Senate and the White House. Maybe they could have forced a delay of the implementation. But that’s not what I’m talking about.

Republicans need to rally their base. Sometimes you have to fight just to prove that you will fight. Yeah, that bully is bigger and stronger than you, and there is no way you can beat him. But you fight him anyway, knowing you’re gonna get your ass kicked.

This is especially true when you are defending a friend. You don’t say “I’ve got your back, as long as I’m sure we’re gonna win. Otherwise I’m outta here!” And you don’t take a poll to see what’s popular.

Harry Reid and Barack Obama were refusing to negotiate while calling the Republicans nasty names. The previous “continuing resolution” (what we have instead of a federal budget) had expired and the government was gonna run out of credit unless the debt ceiling was raised. Without the cooperation of the House Republicans nothing could happen on either one. That is why we had a partial shutdown.

It doesn’t get any simpler. All they had to do to win was nothing

If the House Republicans do nothing, the crisis keeps going. The “essential government services” keep going, but Shutdown Theater continues, and Uncle Sam is running out of credit. Whoever blinks first, loses.

So you do NOTHING, until Barack Obama agrees to negotiate.

It’s not a bluff. You make clear that you are willing to make a deal, but you insist that the president negotiate with you. Face to face. No secrecy.

If I was Speaker of the House I would insist that Obama come down to the Capitol and meet with me at my office. After all, I already went to his place a few times so he could tell me he wasn’t going to negotiate.

If/when he negotiates, you win. Make him give you something just to prove a point.

That’s how you win by doing nothing.


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137 Responses to Can’t Anybody Here Play This Game?

  1. The Klown says:

    The view from inside the Koolaid punchbowl:

  2. votermom says:

    Imo it’s because the GOPers are individually being threatened and bribed by Obama’s thuggish admin.

  3. votermom says:

    • votermom says:

      No risk on her part. Plastic Jesus can absorb the hits, and she holds the rest of the Dems in contempt.

    • Lulu says:

      That article says don’t negotiate over Obamacare rather than the debt ceiling. If ValJar said hold firm on Obamacare she may have bit her own nose off. Pretty much everyone but the most Kool-aid blind Obots think delay for a year would have been the smart thing to do. She was also behind the Syria policy methinks. But the shutdown theatre of spite looks exactly like the kind of shit she would do especially since it was planned out. Who knows? She is like Rasputin.

  4. 1539days says:

    And the funny part is this is a win-win. Except for Defense, Republicans always talk about cutting spending. This is the ultimate way to cut spending. President Smug keeps telling Republicans they have to pass a debt limit increase to pay bills already incurred. There are NO financial obligations until there’s a budget and the service on the debt can be paid with 10% of current revenue.

    The media must be very scared of this current budget situation because they are now love-bombing the RINOs they see as moderates. I hope those guys remember the LSM did the same thing to Romney until the day he had the Republican nomination free and clear. Then it was 47% all the way to election day.

  5. votermom says:

  6. DeniseVB says:

    Chicks on the Right has a screen cap of that Boo-Hoo-Hoo Daily Kos post for those who don’t like clicking on Kos links……

    http://chicksontheright.com/posts/item/24842-awwww-poor-liberal

    • Comments at that Kos thread are *PRICELESS*! I have never seen a deeper pit of denial. And I have seen into the abyss of kool-aid swilling hell.

    • This might be my favorite example:

      I am so tired of the ACA getting (4+ / 0-)
      blamed for greedy insurance companies. wtf people? Go yell at your stupid insurance company that raises their rates whenever they please, and now have a perfect scapegoat for their bad behavior. And while you’re at it go yell at the greedy corporations that don’t want to pay for your healthcare, or give you a living wage, that are likewise using the ACA and the President as their excuse for being greedy aholes. Healthcare reform will take some time to get right. It seems a small miracle to me that we have made it this far. And please, start directing all that angst at the people and companies that deserve it.

      you get what you give

      by chicagobleu on Mon Sep 30, 2013 at 03:28:39 PM PDT

      If insurance companies are so greedy, why the fuck did Obama TRUST them? And why didn’t he SEE that the exchanges would be a dumping ground? I thought he was the smartest guy in the room? Or maybe he was in their pockets the entire time… Occam’s razor and all.

  7. Somebody says:

    I just saw an interview with Louie Gohmert on Fox. He said what happened last night was the GOP leadership got them all together and said here is our bill, in essence take it or leave it.

    He then went on to say he had talked to people that were around during the Gingrich years and that although there was a lot of bickering, everybody had a say and got their points across. Then a bill was crafted from the things that had enough support.

    I never took Boehner for a dictator.

    • wmcb says:

      No leadership. Leadership knows how to build a coalition, not just issue orders.

    • Constance says:

      The thing is the elected people in DC see the law, our Constitution and our system of government as a hindrance to their quest for party and personal power. They are there to collect graft dispense favors and keep the government gravy train open for multinational corporations. They don’t give a rats ass about Citizens. I saw today that Obama said as soon as this debt and budget situation is over he can get on with an amnesty bill for illegals.

      • Constance says:

        Because there isn’t enough unemployed citizens and part time citizens looking for full time work so we need to import workers. Also since 30% of our citizens don’t graduate from high school we don’t have enough unskilled workers apparently.

  8. wmcb says:

    Notice what the press does in the article, and most others I’ve seen?

    Roughly one-third of this caucus thinks hitting the debt ceiling and shutting down the government are great strategies to try to stop Obamacare.

    The position they just claimed is the “reason” for no deal yesterday has not been even the teaparty caucus’ offer for some time. That was the position during Cruz’ filibuster – completely stop Obamacare. Pay attention, because this is important. GOP has been trying to negotiate for weeks. They have made offer after offer, backing off from their original demands to less and less.

    Do you see what the press does? They list as the reason for no deal the “fact” that the TP wing is still at square one, offering their original offer. They completely ignore what the deal being offered actually was, and the fact that multiple concessions have been made.

    It’s like haggling over a car, and your original offer was $5000. You’ve now haggled down to $2000, seller still says no, and press reports:
    “The reason the deal fell throught is because $5000 is seen as unreasonable.” Huh? But that wasn’t the offer on the table!!!

  9. DeniseVB says:

    The continuing saga of Ted Cruz Must Be Destroyed !!!

    http://m.newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2013/10/15/dershowitz-very-strong-argument-what-ted-cruz-doing-deeply-unconstitu

    Has anyone asked Dershowitz if he remembers the Obamas at Harvard Law?

    • The Klown says:

      I was gonna write a post about this.

      • DeniseVB says:

        I’m still looking for something about Dershowitz “remembering the Obamas” at Harvard Law. Cruz really stuck out in his mind, yet the first black President of the Law Review should have too, right?

        • Lulu says:

          Obama did not take any “hard” classes like Dershowitz’s. And if he did he didn’t “negotiate” (talk) to the prof. Can anyone see either Obama trying to argue with Dershowitz?

      • 1539days says:

        Wow. Dershowitz is making a completely esoteric argument based on the premise that Cruz worships the men who wrote the Constitution and not the principles behind it. There’s not a bit of law in what he said at the end.

        Let’s say I’m the US and I rake in 200 billion dollars a month. My loan payment is about 50 billion dollars. Instead of saving it, I spent $180 billion on candy because I think I deserve more credit. Then I claim I’ll default on my debt payment since I don’t have enough left to pay it.

        This is Obama.

  10. The Klown says:
  11. foxyladi14 says:

    Now there is just an empty chair. 🙂

  12. leslie says:

    Just received this from my brother:

    In order to put even more pressure on the President, Congress is going to collectively shut down each member’s prefrontal cortex. That of course begs the question: How will we be able to tell?

  13. votermom says:

  14. votermom says:

    As if there were any doubt

    • DeniseVB says:

      You know those Let’s Move inspired stamps that “someone” ordered to be thrown out because they sent the wrong message to keep kids safe? That’s being traced back to the WH too. Cost the USPS 90k to print, went through all the proper channels from design approval and printing, but “someone” decided to have a PC tizzy fit. :groan:

  15. votermom says:

  16. DandyTIger says:

    Will be very interesting to see the reaction to the surrender, with establishment repubs and dems joining to get things running again, but at the same time, undoing some previous repub gains. I think a lot of the repub negatives are not at the tea party contingent, but at the establishment/leadership. If so, ’14 will see more tea party types, and maybe red state dems out. If not, then more establishment types in and tea party out.

    Making popcorn.

    • Constance says:

      That pretty much sums Obama up. I like this sentence….
      “While Progressives’ hold that not only man’s intellect but his very nature is utterly malleable in the hands of a skilled Guardian class”

      I am so sick of Ivy indoctrinated elitists (Guardian class) who want to boss me around and run Government because in their minds they are Gods chosen and we should be grateful for their efforts to take over our lives.

    • Lulu says:

      The &*(#@^ diva sounds like ValJar to me. Barry is her henpecked son.

  17. angienc says:

    Koch brothers conspiracy theorists are saying that the whole “defund Obamacare” was a distraction just to bring attention to it (which it did) and that the real purpose was to expose those (on both sides of the aisle) who are in the pocket of the bank lobby (as opposed to the oil/gas lobby) to prepare for primaries of Rs (who “caved”) and red state Ds in 2014 to facilitate a TP take over of the Senate.

    {shrug} Who the fuck knows anymore. It’s true that losing a battle doesn’t mean losing the war and I can say that this “kick the can down the road/maintain the status quo” solution pisses me off probably more than any other result could have. Right now, I’m pretty much on board with the “throw ALL the bums out” way of thinking that could benefit the TP in 2014.

  18. votermom says:

  19. wmcb says:

    One of the main groups trying to kill the more libertarian Cruz/Rand/TP rebellion in the cradle are the hardcore Neocons. The Neocons are totally freaked at the idea of a less interventionist (note I did not say isolationist) mindset taking root in the GOP.

  20. The Klown says:

    What a morning! I was (still am) thoroughly disgusted with Washington DC and about 90% of the blogosphere/twitterverse so I went to redeem bottles and cans.

    I got all dressed up in my finest ratty T-shirt and holy sweat pants. It was busy and slow but at least the weather was nice. I finally got to the front of the line and collected a whopping $20.27 in coin and folding money.

    Then, as I was walking back to my car i went to put the money in my pocket. I’m glad I heard the tinkle of coins hitting the pavement because my money had fallen out through a gaping hole in my pocket!

    To make things worse, some old lady pounced on it before I could. I had to whip her ass to get my money back. She was a feisty old witch. It was touch-and-go there for a few minutes until I landed a lucky punch.

    Now I need a beer.

  21. votermom says:

    • Constance says:

      Good. Then Cruz is still on my “good” list. I’m sick of the “District of Corruption” and their ways.

  22. wmcb says:

    Listen up, suicidal GOP: THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS

    • wmcb says:

      My comment on Ace:

      The Democrats incorporated their wacko radicals without destroying their party structure and apparatus. It moved them left, and there were some purges, but the party didn’t die. From a purely pragmatic standpoint, the GOP doesn’t need to “step aside” and let their wild-eyed radicals take over. They need to get smarter about incorporating, including, consulting, and using their radicals to best effect. They need to realize the game has changed, and will never again be way they were previously comfortable with. Adapt or die.

  23. Blessyourheart says:

  24. The Klown says:

    If you want to see a really good bad movie, watch 3000 Miles To Graceland.

    Kevin Costner is the king of good bad movies. Like The Postman, Waterworld, and Silverado.

  25. foxyladi14 says:

    I love Kevin C. 🙂

  26. votermom says:

    fluke the gloaters

  27. helenk3 says:

    Defense Secretary Hagel apologizes to Medal of Honor recipient Will Swenson for Army mishandling of his award – @DavidNakamura

  28. Propertius says:

    Personally, I think the Republicans have much more to gain by allowing the ACA to be funded so that it can collapse spectacularly under the weight of its own complexity and corruption.

    Given the fairly disastrous first week of exchange signups, that ought to take about a month and a half.

    • angienc says:

      Some say that without Cruz & shutdown, the MSM and Dems would have been able to cover up/down play the disaster that Obamacare is better then they did.

      • wmcb says:

        Yeah, the media that said they found it IMPOSSIBLE to cover Benghazi, because Romney made some inconsequential “gaffe” that took up all the airtime for a week would totes have covered Ocare imploding. Sure.

        Seriously, they actually said that was why they “couldn’t” cover Benghazi.

        • angienc says:

          I remember that bullshit — making Benghazi Romney’s problem.

          But that isn’t what I meant in what I wrote above — I’m saying that because of the shutdown the MSM & OFA wasn’t able to *adequately* cover up Obamacare in the way they would have because they were distracted by covering up Obama’s part/pinning the blame on Cruz for the shutdown. That is, the shutdown put *more* focus on Obamacare’s failures than it would have received if there hadn’t been a shutdown.

  29. 1539days says:

    By the way, wasn’t the debt ceiling vote held up for weeks a couple of years ago? King Obama managed to ignore COngress by shifting money around and putting out a bunch of IOUs. The debt ceiling = the end of the world is BS.

    • DeniseVB says:

      Wasn’t it just last Christmas when Obama commuted from Hawaii to stompy his feet over the budget or something? Cost us an extra mil or two for that round trip 😦

  30. DandyTIger says:

    Apparently the new agreement means the prezzy can raise the debt ceiling from now on without cong. approval. Probably the plan from both establishment sides all along. So the constitution is now officially subverted and the prezzy is pretty much a dictator.

    • Constance says:

      How could that be constitutional? Can’t someone take an unconstitutional agreement to the Supreme Court and have it tossed. Or do the multinational corporations own them too?

      • Monster from the Id says:

        “Do the multinational corporations own [the Supreme Court] too?”

        Yes.

        This has been another edition of “Simple Answers”.

        Oops, wrong blog. 😈

    • Propertius says:

      Why is the constitution “subverted”? The debt ceiling didn’t even exist until 1917. It was established by Congressional legislation and its provisions can be altered or abolished exactly the same way.

      • Propertius says:

        Besides, the whole notion of a “debt ceiling” that exists independent of the appropriation process is ludicrous. If Congress doesn’t want to run up additional; debt, then they should stop appropriating money in excess of revenue.

      • Constance says:

        Well there probably wasn’t a debt until 1917 so why would there be a debt ceiling. Congress is supposed to control spending they should not be able to pass a law that gives that responsibility to anyone else.

    • votermom says:

      Dictator Obama has his rubber-stamp congress.

  31. helenk3 says:

    is anybody watching McCain on Greta? I had to walk out of the room or I would have used words that would make a railroader blush
    he has to go. Greta did a good job of nailing him

  32. votermom says:

  33. Constance says:

    Obama needs to shut up. His first minute was OK and statesman like. But the spiteful bitch eventually outed. Why even bring up immigration? Fix the economic issues facing citizens first. That immigration talk is a red flag to me and other Independents. Unemployment is high, people are working part time jobs, we have many uneducated Americans we don’t need to import unskilled workers. We all know college kids who have graduated and can’t find anything but internships with no benefits. We don’t need to import educated workers. Democrats need to think about the children, the children of American Citizens.

    • swanspirit says:

      I didn’t even listen , but I can tell you that immigration is the war he wants to win , so the Democrats can ensure the complete destruction of the Republican Party , and rule unobstructed for decades . That is the plan , and this was just a skirmish .

  34. votermom says:

    • 1539days says:

      I bet all of them are up for reelection next year.

    • helenk3 says:

      senate republicans who voted yes

      Someone (Eileen) had the list of Rep.Senators who voted Yea on this bill at The Hill article. I am SO disappointed in Kelly Ayotte. She seems to have thrown her lot in with McCain and Graham:
      Alexander (R-TN)
      Ayotte (R-NH)
      Barrasso (R-WY)
      Blunt (R-MO)
      Boozman (R-AR)
      Burr (R-NC)
      Chambliss (R-GA)
      Chiesa (R-NJ)
      Coats (R-IN)
      Cochran (R-MS)
      Collins (R-ME)
      Corker (R-TN)
      Fischer (R-NE)
      Flake (R-AZ)
      Graham (R-SC)
      Hatch (R-UT)
      Hoeven (R-ND)
      Isakson (R-GA)
      Johanns (R-NE)
      King (I-ME)
      Kirk (R-IL)
      McCain (R-AZ)
      MCConnell (R-KY) who has added a pork project in this bill
      Moran (R-KS)
      Murkowski (R-AK)
      Portman (R-OH)
      Thune (R-SD)
      Wicker (R-MS)

  35. 1539days says:

    What needs to happen is for the Tea Party to adopt an all-or-nothing strategy. If the Republican nominee for any office isn’t supported by the Tea Party, they won’t get any financial support. If their candidate loses the primary, there is no reason for them to waste time or energy to support that winner. It’s better to let a Democrat win than to lose money supporting a RINO.

  36. 1539days says:

    About 5 minutes until the Republican Party becomes an appendix to history.

  37. 1539days says:

    It turns out Newt really was the only guy who could have saved us.

  38. piper says:

    I’m done – a pox on both houses. Although the dems. are bad the pubs caved big time and sold all of us out. The little princes and princesses will eat their cake and let us little serfs suffer the consequences of voting for them by appealing to our greed by offering ‘free stuff’ not realizing that in some form or another we pay for this stuff.

  39. 1539days says:

    Even the conservatives are taking the “let it burn” stance because they know Obamacare won’t be killed by the current crop in DC.

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