It’s the GOP Establishment that is Delusional or Lying

Three cheers! Indian Elephants scentingCorbett National Park, India.


Excellent piece from Andrew C. McCarthy:

The Art of the Impossible

In considering the Republican retreat that ended the partial government shutdown, funded Obamacare, and unconditionally extended more credit on Uncle Sam’s tapped-out credit card, my friend Jonah Goldberg argues that we should be more understanding of Senate minority leader Mitch McConnell’s predicament. Politics, Jonah aptly observes, is the art of the possible, and McConnell had “no good options” when he led the GOP cave-in to all of President Obama’s demands — a decision that, McConnell insists, was not in any way influenced by the tidy $3 billion earmark thrown in for one of his pet Kentucky boondoggles.

I agree that we must be realistic about what was achievable in the Obamacare battle. What I don’t get, though, is why our sympathetic cast of mind must be from the GOP-establishment perspective alone. Aren’t we also obliged to be realistic about the options available to the Republicans who took seriously their campaign promises to do everything within their power — which includes their constitutional power of the purse — to stop Obamacare?

Virtually all congressional Republicans elected or reelected since 2010 ran on that promise. Stopping Obamacare is the cause that most animated the conservative base, without which there would be no Republican majority in the House. If Republicans expected to maintain that support, they had to act on that commitment.

Beyond promises, something also had to be done because Obamacare is a disaster for the productive part of the country. And, more urgently, that something had to be done now. This was not a manufactured crisis. Obamacare was set to commence on October 1. Consequently, Republicans had two options. Option One was the GOP establishment’s “win elections, then repeal” strategy: Do nothing for now; allow Obamacare to be implemented; assume its unpopularity would increase, creating a climate for extended, uninterrupted GOP electoral success, finally leading to a Republican Congress of such substantial majorities that an Obamacare repeal would pass both houses and be signed by a Republican president. As we shall see, core assumptions of “win elections, then repeal” require the suspension of disbelief.

[…]

I believe there is no chance that will happen. I also believe the Republican establishment, in its heart of hearts, realizes how implausible this prospect is. A few times over the last two weeks — though not nearly as often as it should have happened — Republicans taking pot shots at Ted Cruz, Mike Lee, and House conservatives were asked what their alternative plan was to stop Obamacare. The usual response was to shuffle feet and mumble about winning elections. It was a meek comeback because even these seasoned politicians were embarrassed to promise a bold repeal in, oh, 2017, 2019 . . .

[…]


There is a bunch more over there at NRO but the NSA was watching so I could only steal a little of it. I think I stole enough to cover the points I wanted to make.

The GOP Establishment’s argument is premised on the assumption of future electoral gains. That’s counting your chickens before they hatch. If Hillary or some other Democrat wins in 2016 then Obamacare will be safe from repeal until at least January 2021 and maybe longer.

My personal belief is that the GOP establishment doesn’t really want to repeal Obamacare because it’s a crony capitalist’s wetdream. The individual mandate alone is worth trillions of dollars over the next decade. The GOP establishment wants to keep Obamacare but blame the Democrats for it. Win-win for them.

That is why I have been so disgusted the past few days. I came to the realization that Obamacare is here to stay for the foreseeable future. There will be congressional efforts to “fix the glitches” or even perhaps transform it into single-payer. But repeal is deader than disco.

BTW – Where did the “glitches” talking point originate? I’m guessing somewhere in the bowels of the White House. The Hindenburg had a glitch. The Titanic had a glitch.

Obamacare is the Fifth Horseman of the Apocalypse.


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92 Responses to It’s the GOP Establishment that is Delusional or Lying

  1. The Klown says:

    There are a few shining lights of honesty and integrity in the GOP. Both wings of the Washington D.C. establishment (The Uniparty)and the Village Idiots are united in trying to crush or co-opt them.

    As for the Democrats, the cupboard is bare.

  2. helenk3 says:

    when I left the democratic party in 2008, my feeling was that I would always take country over party. still believe that. I am an proud independent now.
    Do not belong to the tea party , but admire many of the things they stand for.
    the establishment republicans have sold out just as the democrats did.
    both forgot country.
    there is an anger in this country then is like a smoldering grass fire.
    Many people supported Ted Cruz and the group I have named the battling bastards of DC. they dared to say NUTS to both the dems and the rinos. They stood their ground and fought a good fight and it will be remembered.
    One of the things that I will never forget is the dems standing with the illegal aliens but not with the Vets. if they think it will be forgotten it will not.
    That Ky Dam is going to be one of the most expensive in republican history. It will cost the party a lot more then they thought

    • DeniseVB says:

      I’m not affiliated with any organized political party either, but I believe the tea party is a movement of ideas. I think they have a lot more in common with OWS than the establishment GOP. If only those minds could meld, it could be a powerful force against crony capitalism and a boost to personal liberties.

  3. trixta says:

    “The GOP establishment wants to keep Obamacare but blame the Democrats for it. Win-win for them.”

    Exactamundo! This is how our two-party system works for the corporatist and globalist agendas. Wasn’t Obamacare originally devised by the Heritage Foundation as a response to “Hillarycare”? The “two-party” system is really a uni-party system with calculated losers and winners at each election cycle. As long as this corrosive system continues, we are screwed as a country.

    • Constance says:

      I agree. We could try to reform the District of Corruption and the Uniparty but I think it is better to let them have the North East coast, many of them aren’t aware of the rest of the country anyway except that there are suckers they can tax in the other parts of the country. The DC political people want control so leave them their little corrupt world and cut the west, and south loose and we can go back to following the constitution and having a government for The People rather than multinational corporations. They will fight reform with every thing they’ve got because they need power.

  4. The Klown says:

    This is why I love MDD:

    Feel free to make snarky comments about me and my children when my 3yo is having a melt down in Target while waiting in line. Just don’t act surprised when I call you out on it.

    Mommy has a mean streak!

  5. The Klown says:
  6. And in other news the Saudi’s stuck it to our Resident by declining the UN Security Council seat to which they had just been elected. Claiming “double standards” (surely they jest), they publicly say they want no part of belonging to a group that’s failed as badly as the Security Council.

    But the real reason may be more nuanced, according to The Belmont Club.

    The Saudis are especially concerned about Obama’s blunders in Syria, which have made it hard for them to win against Assad. Syria might mark a high water mark for the Sunni militancy followed by the implicit prospect of irreversible decline. Ordinarily it would be just another blunder by president Obama; just another crackup in the alliances he has desultorily attempted to form.

    But indirect help for Obama may be coming from a wholly unexpected direction. Despite the president’s best efforts to discourage the domestic oil industry, the United States has jumped ahead of Saudi Arabia to become the world’s biggest oil producer on the wings of new technology. And the pace of American production is accelerating. Reuters says that Oklahoma is coming online big-time.The fun part is only beginning.

    • r u reddy says:

      Colonel Lang and his commenters over at Sic Semper Tyrannis have run many posts and threads about why Saudi Arabia’s al Quaeda cannibals and head choppers do not deserve to win in Syria.
      I hope KSA stays away from the Security Council. I thank them for their self-deletion.

    • Constance says:

      That guy is great and he has quite a history of political commentary. As far as I know the Obots are the only ones arrogant enough to try to silence him.

  7. The Klown says:
  8. The Klown says:

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  9. helenk3 says:

    women think ahead

    A woman in her eighties made the news because she was getting married for the fourth time. As she was being interviewed by a local TV station,and the commentator asked about what it felt to be married again at that age and would she share part of her previous experiences, since it seem quite unique the fact that her new husband was a ‘funeral director.’ After a short time to think, a smile came to her face and she proudlyexplained that she had first married a banker when she was in her twenties, in her forties she married a circus ring master, and in hersixties she married a pastor and now in her eighties, a funeral director. The amazed commentator asked her why she had married men with such diverse careers. With a smile on her face she explained, ‘I married one for the money, two for the show, three to get ready, and four to go.

  10. The Klown says:
    • wmcb says:

      One thing Mead doesn’t touch on in that article, but that I’ve read in other articles: some of the individual Nationalist parties that are gaining in support in Europe are getting HUGE support from women. Like, massive.

      Know why? Because it’s the women who are bearing the brunt of the problems caused by the EU’s policies of encouraging the mass immigration of millions of angry young men from decidedly barbaric cultures. To the extent that they cannot be absorbed or assimilated to the existing culture, because there are just too many of them. And it’s the women and young girls who are getting raped and harrassed and no longer feel safe walking the streets where they had previously been perfectly safe for DECADES.

      And I’ve seen interviews with some women who say they don’t care for some of the rhetoric or positions of these nationalist parties, but if no one else among the fecking parties or politicians is going to protect them, then they will go with who will.

      And I frankly don’t blame them. Reality is a harsh mistress when it comes to survival. You really don’t give a shit about being all PC when your daughters are being press-ganged into sexual abuse rings.

      • votermom says:

        Women will always flock to the strong defenders; at least the sane ones will.

        • wmcb says:

          I’ll probably get called xenophobic for this (*yawn*), but immigration policy for any country, including ours, has to take into account the effect on the prevailing culture.

          It’s not about bigotry, it’s about clashing culture. What would happen to the prevailing culture in, say, Barbados, if a huge number of Georgia rednecks suddenly got transported there? Or Russians? It’s a lie to say it would have no effect. And it’s a lie to say that the prevailing culture would be awful bigots to be concerned about those effects. What Barbados native in their right mind would want to see thier culture and traditons overwhelmed and exterminated by a massive influx of country music and NASCAR? What kind of immigrants assimilate best? Can Barbados handle a larger influx of Jamaicans, because of at least some cultural similarities, than they could of Finns? Anyone with a brain can recognize that at some numerical point, immigrants can pretty much exterminate the prevailing culture. I mean, no one would argue that if you went extreme and replaced three-fourths of Barbadosians with Bubbas, their culture would be swamped and die. So the only real question is where are the tipping points on the scale.

          Any country, or state, or city can easily absorb and integrate immigrants, even markedly different ones, and they bring with them so many benefits. But we need to have a serious discussion about how many per year can be absorbed, and from where, without a deleterious effect on our own culture. At what rate can we absorb and still have those people pretty much adapt to us, rather than vice versa? I’d really like to know that. But I have no idea. You know why I have no idea? Because to even ask that question makes me a terrible horrible hateful bigot.

          But fuck ’em. I am not going to apologize for liking my quintessentially American culture, and wanting to preserve it. That’s not hate, and I’m not backing down if someone tries to shut me up by saying it is.

        • Lulu says:

          If you like your own culture, if you have been successful in your own culture, you want to continue it and defend it. Those who haven’t don’t. Then there are those who “hate” their own culture because of some perceived slight, failure, or inability to fit into it because of personality issues, disorders or socialization problems. It is the blame game often as they never see it as any of their own fault and it currently is reaching epic proportionsnumbers as a type of mania. It is a common phase that adolescents go through in establishing their own independence from parents and usually outgrown except for the arrested developement crowd who are growing in numbers due to delayed adulthood. Some grow out of it eventually but increasing numbers do not. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oikophobia

      • Lulu says:

        Women can be radicalized just like men especially in matters of physical and economic safety. This is why I don’t think either party understands the fury which is going to erupt when women, who run the personal household budgets of this country, see one of their primary monthly bills doubling or tripling and its’ affect on every other aspect of spending. Is Obamacare going to help some poor women. Yes it is. But guess what? They already had little money to spend and NOTHING to invest or save. The ripple effect that taking that much money out of the economy is going to be shocking. Every part of the economy is going to be hit. And every “leader” that advocated this horror or let it slide by can go fuck them self when they start whining about the nosedive. Who owns insurance companies who will profit to the detriment of every other part of the country. Wall St that is who. Obama is Wall St’s rent seeker.

    • wmcb says:

      One more thing, and then I’ll shut up. If you push people, they will react. And very often, that reaction is stupid and misguided, or falls in with men of dubious aims, but it doesn’t mean it won’t happen.

      The EU’s and the prevailing parties’ absolute refusal to deal with (or even admit the existence of) the blatant, obvious culture clashes going on in Europe means that people you don’t necessarily want addressing the problem end up being the only ones doing it.

      Human nature is human nature. You can whine all day that it shouldn’t be, but you are spitting in the wind and changing nothing. Reality doesn’t give a shit, reality simply is. What is happening in Europe is entirely predictable, and as old as mankind. Some people over there had better wake the fuck up, or it could get ugly.

  11. helenk3 says:

    check out these pictures

  12. wmcb says:

    myiq? Are you a secret assassin?

  13. votermom says:

    • insanelysane says:

      Is there Re-hab for withdrawal from blue?
      Just as when Tony Soprano left us I felt a hole in my map.
      Now Walt is gone. Is there no place for crime with honor?
      Let’s have that talk.

  14. helenk3 says:

    http://www.politico.com/blogs/under-the-radar/2013/10/house-panel-nixes-graysons-request-for-syria-intelligence-175396.html?hp=r7

    alan grayson denied request for syria intelligence.

    has this ever been done before, a committee member denied info?

    • 1539days says:

      Grayson is not a committee member. He also discussed classified information (previously revealed by Edward Snowden) on the House floor in a speech.

      Alan Grayson is also batshit crazy. As much as I may want to know Obama’s justification for Syria involvement, I don’t particularly want that asshole to get it.

  15. 1539days says:

    When Ted Cruz gave his filibuster speech, my opinion was that the Republicans either needed to go all the way with this or give up immediately. By ending the shutdown before the debt ceiling, they were able to keep Obamacare to a budgetary issue instead of being accused of holding the country hostage. If you believe Cruz and the Republicans “got the message out” on Obamacare, it was a success.

    I will say that the GOP has done well with tactical retreats. During the last debt ceiling delay, Obama thought he won by getting the supercommittee created. This turned out to be a way that forced the Congress to accept sequester funding when conservatives agreed to cut defense and general fund budgets.

    What we have now is a three month period where there is no “shutdown” where the House and Senate can negotiate on a budget. Republicans need to put pressure on Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi to have conferees and actually put together a budget starting yesterday. Cynical me thinks that’s not going to happen.

    • DandyTIger says:

      There is no leverage against Dems to make them have discussions or negotiate anything. Obama can now raise the debt limit without House input. As for another shutdown, Dems would love that, so no leverage there either. The only saving grace for Repubs is that people may forget about the shutdown stuff and most vote about jobs, economy, and obamacare (assuming it is still a problem by then).

      • 1539days says:

        Ultimately, everything is a matter of will. One of the big voting blocks, the elderly, still think they can go on Medicare and not have to worry. Medicare will be Obamacare in a few years. I’m just waiting for that shoe to drop.

  16. DeniseVB says:

    Planned Parenthood has an Action Fund and PAC in Virginia? Does the IRS know about this? Don’t they get govt funds and still whine about the new Va laws to bring their clinics up to the health standards of, say, a PETA euthanasia clinic? Or something like that?

    Why aren’t they spending these Action and PAC funds for that ?

    I just got a 4 page glossy flyer calling Ken Cuccinelli a hater of women with all kinds of hatespeech and stupid stuff that he never said, but they THINK he’ll do.

    Judging by the mailing address, they must have bought DMV’s mailing list, so stupid voters will get, and believe this too? What a buncha crapola. Judging by the return address, it’s from DC, yeah, they care about Virginia.

    Cuccinelli is a declared enemy of Obamacare, first AG in the nation to file a lawsuit to stop it in our state. A work still in progress.

    Women Can’t Trust Cuccinelli is the theme, but they don’t mention, McAuliffe will turn Virginia into Detroit. Hillary’s campaigning for him now. The fix is in, Obama’s sending his Benghazi team in.

    I almost turned this into a post, too angry to check my spelling 😉

  17. The Klown says:
  18. Propertius says:

    There won’t be any effort to replace the ACA with single-payer, because that would be contrary to the ACA’s real purpose (enriching the insurance companies).

    • Constance says:

      Word.

    • Constance says:

      I still think the only way around Obama care is for a group of organized people to offer a non profit insurance. Say a Christian church…, the Gates foundation. After all someone started Vanguard index investments back when everyone was getting screwed by stocks and mutual funds fees. No matter what you are always going to have your shiesty weasels but there can also be people who really care for the common good.

      • wmcb says:

        There are already some Christian “sharing” groups doing something like that. It’s not insurance. It’s very very careful to make sure it’s not “insurance”, legally. But being a member exempts you from Obamacare.

        It’s members voluntarily helping each other out with medical bills. The coop, when you send in your monthly dues, directs you which member to send the check to directly. It’s quite clever, actually. But it’s NOT insurance, nope. 😉

        http://thehealthcoop.com

      • 1539days says:

        because of Obamacare, the government can now certify what a “real” insurance / medical policy entails. One of the things I’ve heard about now is concierge medicine. The members pay a monthly fee directly to the doctor and get shorter wait times and access to the same discounts as medical professionals.

        • wmcb says:

          We have toyed with the idea of a concierge practice. It can actually be done fairly cheaply, because you’d be AMAZED at how little the overhead is when you are not processing claims or jumping through hoops for either insurance or govt. A doc that previously needed 6 support staff can get by with 1 or 2 or NONE in a pinch. And everything from the phone system to the computers to the stamps and envelopes you buy can be much, much simpler and cheaper. Heck, access to the clearinghouses to electronically submit your billing ALONE runs about 7 to 10% of total receipts. That’s a chunk, and it goes away.

          In our previous private practice, we had roughly 5,000 patients. Most of whom we rarely/never saw, because largely healthy. If we had even 1/2 that number, paying us $100 per YEAR for a “membership”, that’s $250,000. It would have to be more, of course, because there’s still significant overhead, but you get the picture. So double it. $200 annually, and you see/talk to your doc whenever you want.

          Also, SO many things can really be handled by phone. You know why you have to go in for an office visit? Because with insurance, the only way the doc gets paid is if they physically see you. A concierge practice cuts through that nonsense. Yeah, you’re a responsible mom whom we know and trust to accurately describe symptoms, and kiddo is coughing and miserable? We can call something in.

  19. wmcb says:

    This whole thing is very good, but the part about Benghazi made me want to cry. THIS is the thing, the indefinable thing, that resides in my bones, that I don’t want to see perish. Shining City on a Hill, indeed.

    http://accordingtohoyt.com/2013/10/13/being-american-a-guest-post-by-eamon/

  20. wmcb says:

    Typical Clemson fan.

  21. The Klown says:
  22. underwhelmed says:

    OT but wanted to share – so very proud of my country’s new Prime Minister. He’s out this weekend fighting bushfires. Prior to becoming the nation’s leader, he was a volunteer fire fighter for 13 years. And he’s still out there, giving. As far as I can tell, not in the direct line of fire, but driving tanker and giving back up support and stuff.

    Can you imagine Obama putting himself on the line for anyone?

    • helenk3 says:

      good for him. seems like a real leader.
      wish America had one

      • underwhelmed says:

        He truly is. And the vile progs here are utterly rabid, trying to diminish him. It’s like our countries are mirror images of each other, the difference being that we’ve kicked our vile prog government to the curb. But it doesn’t stop the evil, of course.

        Really feeling for you guys. How did your wonderful country turn into such a nightmare?

        • Didn’t control the borders and we’ve given away too much free stuff to make idiots feel less guilty about themselves for being involved in running the government.

  23. helenk3 says:

    just found a movie on netflix

    How Beer Saved The World

  24. The Klown says:

    The Late Late Show with Craig Ferguson

    Because of the government shutdown, the White House is under attack — by squirrels. They’ve invaded the White House garden because the gardeners were laid off. Michelle Obama planted a garden to show how easy it is to grow your own food. All you need is water, sunlight, and 50 full-time federal employees.

    A lot of people got mad when Michelle Obama expanded the White House garden. That just shows you some people don’t know their history. When Eleanor Roosevelt grew a garden, it was a “victory garden.” But when Michelle Obama does it, it’s a “communist plot.”

    When I first heard the White House was under attack by freaky rodents, I thought, “What’s Ann Coulter done now?”

    This kind of thing would never have happened under George W. Bush because Dick Cheney would have been on the White House lawn blasting the squirrels with a shotgun.

    I lol’ed

  25. wmcb says:

    New one out. Progressive Racists:

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