“Dem Party is F****d.” That was the subject line of an email sent to me Sunday by a senior Democratic consultant with strong ties to the White House and Capitol Hill. The body of the email contained a link to this Los Angeles Times story about Obamacare “sticker shock:”
“These middle-class consumers are staring at hefty increases on their insurance bills as the overhaul remakes the healthcare market. Their rates are rising in large part to help offset the higher costs of covering sicker, poorer people who have been shut out of the system for years.”
“Although recent criticism of the healthcare law has focused on website glitches and early enrollment snags, experts say sharp price increases for individual policies have the greatest potential to erode public support for President Obama’s signature legislation.”
In his story, reporter Chad Terhune also quoted a letter sent to a California insurance company executive. “I was all for Obamacare,” wrote a young woman complaining about a 50 percent rate hike related to the health care law, “until I found out I was paying for it.”
Also of interest to the Democratic consultant: A Josh Barro column on Obama’s promise that “if you like your health plan, you can keep your health plan.” It was never a reasonable pledge, Barro argues, and it’s being proven false. He called this “a good thing” because “a lot of existing health plans were bad.” Reforming the nation’s health care system “was necessarily going to have to change a lot of people’s health plans,” Barro wrote.
The Democratic consultant said none of this is news to him, but he wonders why Obama wasn’t honest with Americans. He predicted surprise and outrage over higher costs and lesser coverage. “We will own this problem forever,” the Democrat wrote.
I have been saying for years that Obamacare was gonna be a disaster. And the Democrats knew it. The giveaway was that they delayed implementation until after the 2012 elections.
Now you see people spreading the talking point that they deliberately enacted a bad program so they could “fix” it into Single-Payer. The problem with that idea is that it requires committing political suicide.
On the other hand, the GOP establishment seems determined to squander this opportunity. A cynic would say this is just Kabuki and we’re all f****d. The problem with cynics and pessimists is that they’re usually right.
I picked a bad time to quit drinking. I could really use some liquid oblivion right now.
FML
The Crawdad Hole 
This made me lol
Maybe she was kidnapped by gypsies
Or sent to the death panel.
hiding with Benghazi survivors
She’s in Witless Protection.
Found her! As I posted to the TCH FB public page 😀
That ain’t right. Now I need brain bleach.
Or a Beer or three. 😆
Just be thankful I don’t know how to post photos in the comments here 😉
Doesn’t matter…she was just a composite anyway.
READ MY LIPS: If you like your plan […] you can keep it.
http://www.americanthinker.com/2013/10/life_expectancy_under_the_affordable_care_act.html
this is an interesting article of what happens to drug research under obamacare.
I can say that in the last month I have had my insurance refuse to pay for a flu shot that they were giving in a CVS store, saying I would have to go to my primary care dr to get it. I just paid for it my self as my doctor is a distance and I only go when I really have to or for checkups. then I was told OH NO we will pay for it just send us the receipt. Then last week my doctor wrote out three prescriptions and the insurance co would not pay for one. these two incidents are the first time I have ever had an insurance refuse doctor’s prescriptions
http://weaselzippers.us/2013/10/28/executive-with-close-ties-to-mooch-whose-firm-won-no-bid-contract-to-build-obamacare-exchange-spent-christmas-with-the-obamas-in-2010/
what’s a few million between friends
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/10/catholic-university-to-teach-students-how-to-promote-o-care-covered-abortions/#disqus_thread
this is going over like a lead balloon
2 things:
“I was all for Obamacare,” wrote a young woman complaining about a 50 percent rate hike related to the health care law, “until I found out I was paying for it.”
This is why the uninformed public is so susceptible to the marketing and propaganda hype of modern politics. All promises and no reality.
Second: he “wonders why Obama wasn’t honest about it.” Does he know Obama?
Obama is the used car salesman selling the lemon that is Obamacare.
honk
I will cut her some slack. What I think she was saying was that she didn’t realize that she would be so **disproportionately* paying for it.
The burden of the cost is falling disproportionately on people just outside of subsidy range. That’s a fact, not some spin.
It is a horrifyingly poorly designed law, written with the fore-thought of a 7th grade civics student, with no thought about how it impacts particular groups. Unworkable.
Someone on the message board for that post said, “I don’t know a single person on the individual market who has lost their coverage due to Obamacare.” Obviously he doesn’t know anyone on the individual market because most of us lost our plans. The only thing mine lacked was chemical dependency coverage. I don’t even drink!!!! but my premiums and deductible were jacked and I lost the 4 up-front specialist visits I had (among other downgrades). I have skin cancer and other problems. I needed coverage for my screenings and I lost it until I meet the elevated deductible…which I never meet.
Offering subsidies for people who need to have higher-cost insurance while leaving us who don’t need to carry…. maternity or chemical dependency, or abortion, or birth control alone would have been a good option. Creating public insurance (which they already had in some states) for high risk patients who can’t get “regular insurance” would have been good. Offering subsidies for people who can’t afford insurance at all would have made sense. Expanding Medicaid — but only in the context of increasing reimbursements so more doctors would accept it — was something I would be for.
But this whackamole strategy of let’s insure these people while pricing these other folks out of the market is criminal. It’s downright dastardly. And the Democrats should be run out of town for it. Vote the effing bum out.
PS: And I pride myself on not mentioning that most of the Exchange plans are quasi-Medicaid or ranting about that too. Oops, I sort of did. Some families will be paying many thousands of dollars a year and have only limited doctor access…..
*bums
It is a feature not a bug. This shit came out of the Center for American Progress and health insurers lobbyist’s asses. The intent was to ration care for those who receive too much according to the freaks like Ezekiael Emauel MD, common looters like Obama, and greedy assholes in the insurance industry who are owned by Wall St. It was to pillage wealth from the struggling middle class for themselves with a con claiming to provide care for the have-nots who will still be have-nots in health care with crappy publicly funded Medicaid HMO’s. It is a con that was supposed to razzle dazzle with a frigging website that hid the rates and funneled the desperate whose insurance had just been terminated (by Obamacare law) like a cow in a squeeze chute. The website fizzled, the public caught on, and now it is headed for the elections which are a year away.
And middle class voters without subsides and with huge increases WILL REMEMBER that Congressional staff got gold plans AND subsidies at their expense.
Of course the Republicans are too stupid to capitolize on the Obamacare disaster or else they are also owned by Wall street and so they won’t act to save The People. But never fear, Congress will make sure to import a bunch of illegals so they can take the few jobs that are around and drive wages down.
What concessions?
Ted Cruz releases Halloween video
Wonder what my Obot hairdresser has to say about Obamacare now. I wouldn’t be surprised if she and her family have been booted off their Kaiser plan. I’ll see her in a few weeks….
I must say , I am actually just feeling the feathery beginnings of amusement , ( am not close to any level of satisfaction or gratification YET ), but must admit ; I am starting to enjoy the irony and schadenfreude that is the immanent failure of the signature piece of The Narcissist in Chief SIGNATURE piece of legislation and legacy .
He and his entire administration and party ; so very completely and richly deserve the inescapable public and global humiliation that this debacle will bring , as do the vile progs. I will refrain from actually gloating , because the tragedy is, that it is the people of this country that are truly suffering from the hubris and arrogance that the Incompetent in Chief has inflicted upon them in the form of “obamacare “, but I cannot help the feelings of pleasure watching it unfold as the failure it is . The ACA is no longer obamcare , it is now becoming the ObamaCatastophe , and considering all the misery and grief I have felt for years watching this fraud come to power , I think I might enjoy some satisfaction watching the tide turn.
The bigger they are, the harder they fall .
OBAMACATASTROPHE *
Obama-tanic. Obama-con. Obama-crap. Obama-fail. Obama-gedon. Obama-wreck.
Obama-bamboozle. Obama-okey-doke. Obama bait-and-switch. ObamaCon.
I like the term Obama-gedon. That really fits this disaster.
Between Barack and a hard place.
O-shit-care, Obamaclusterf*ck, Obombedebacle, Obamasaster, Obamacataclysm
Enjoy it while you can, the Progs will fix it by printing more money so they can push huge government subsidies to the insurance companies (who won’t do anything but ration health care) and that will drive up inflation so the money you make won’t be worth anything. $10. for a loaf of bread is around the corner and your part time job won’t cover it.
Well said Swan. wish I could do a thumbs up smiley. 🙂
nicely put, swan…the harder they come, the harder they fall….
It gives me no relief when it amounts to about a $3000/yr tax increase.
On Wednesday sebelius testifies before congress.
On Wednesday backtrack will be making a speech in Boston about romneycare and obamacare
Texas abortion law declared unconstitutional by federal court
JOY TO THE WORLD ?
Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/10/28/cgi-federal-executive-spent-christmas-with-the-obamas/#ixzz2j2t5Doxv
There’s a link to Valerie Jarrett somewhere too. Couldn’t find any good sources, mostly gossipy stuff, but her daughter married Canada’s Prime Minister’s son? Either Dad or Son hired CGI for some mega-project that failed in Canada also. Maybe I can find some stuff for Tinfoil Tuesday 😉
There are a lot of rumors going around that Val’s daughter and SIL work for CGI federal, but apparently that’s not true. McNorman found this and posted a link at her website, talk about a tangled web. I thought you might like it for your Tinfoil Tuesday post. You’ll recognize a lot of the tangled names.
http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2013/10/cgi-healthcaregov-not-their-first.html
http://freebeacon.com/five-more-scandals-obama-knew-nothing-about/
nobody tells him nothing
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/10/28/has-wisconsin-ever-had-a-gov-assassinated-the-chilling-note-someone-sent-to-scott-walkers-wife/
this is just ugly
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/wh-its-true-some-americans-wont-be-able-keep-their-health-care-plan-under-obamacare_764860.html#
FINALLY the whitehouse admits people will lose their insurance
David Burge @iowahawkblog 1h
@BarackObama If you like your delusions, you can keep your delusions.
So true!
LMAO!
http://www.weeklystandard.com/articles/point-no-return_764703.html
backtrack at the point of no return
http://suckersonparade.blogspot.com/2013/10/fabulous-nancy-to-receive-lifetime.html
DO NOT EAT OR DRINK BEFORE READING.
GET BLEACH READY FOR YOUR EYES
This is actually funny , especially to me . Who will be handing Nancy the award ? John Waters? I have an ex-boyfriend that still owes him $600.00 ( John ,you are never ever going to get that $600.00 , ever)
Nancy belongs in a remake of one of his movies , ObamaCare CryBaby , Serial Democrat, Polyester Politician , or maybe Pink Flamingo Pelosi .
So, IOW, us “racists” who opposed Obamacare were right for exactly the reasons we opposed it.
I will not hold my breath for an aplogy.
Another thing I’m sick of hearing about from the prog defenders of this POS is “Before Obamacare, America is the only western industrialized nation *without* nationalized health care.” First, we still don’t have “nationalized” health care — we have a Ponzi scheme. Second, having a POS law is not the answer (i.e., having *something* that sucks is NOT better than having nothing at all). Finally, please site me one of those other western industrialized nations with nationalized healthcare that has the same amount of people as the USA — just one that comes close. I am so tired of these idiots comparing a nation of 300,000 million to the likes of Norway with a population of 10 million (and which, btw, does not operate with defceit spending) and thinking it is a viable comparison. Only morons would think what works for one would work for the other.
GMTA
^^THIS^^
Not to mention the flood of illegals putting pressure on our system, no other nation on earth has the kind of immigration issues we have. Like it or not at some level resolving immigration will become part and parcel of resolving our health care issues……..or we could just keep drifting along???
Sorry this was supposed to nest under AngieNC, but hey ^^This^^ to the obots facing the truth too!
You know with the Progs in charge it is sort of like the middle class working stiff has a sign on her back that says “kick me”, crappy health care, part time jobs, .. we will all have to figure out a way to make some income we don’t report and pay tax on just to get by.
Sell things on craigslist!
I’m sure the NSA will be tasked with reporting anything we sell online.
I like the informal labor swapping groups too, I make you a casserole or whatever for your dinner twice a week for a month and you fix my plumbing problem. We had a babysitting ring with scrip going when my kids were little. You have to hope the Feds aren’t watching though because I’m sure tax is owed on trades.
I recently had a friend complain that his Rx for Viagra has a co-pay of $10 each.
My response: “Well Jim, life is hard and you aren’t.”
It’ s jung-le out there….
Every form of addiction is bad, no matter whether the narcotic be alcohol, morphine or idealism.
Carl Jung
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/10/27/gop-404-error
GOP selling error stickers
I watched my insurance rates creep up & up each quarter since ’09 until topping out just under $800/mon… And as of Dec 31st, I’ll be SOL since my AVMA insurance will be out of business thanks to the ACA. I can hardly wait for my Halloween “surprise”, visiting w/my insurance rep to find out what my options may be – I’m bracing myself for $1K/mon w/my pre-existing conditions…
One thing, you can’t be charged more for pre-existing conditions. Of course, you’ll have to cover maternity, even if you’re 82.
Yes, you *can* be charged more for pre-existing conditions. And simply for being older. You can’t be denied coverage, though. Which is good, I suppose, since you’re legally required to obtain it.
No, you should probabably look at the law again. That’s one of the main provisions, guaranteed issue, plus you can’t be charged more.
Apologies in advance for linking here, but it’s the definitive site on the matter: https://www.healthcare.gov/how-does-the-health-care-law-protect-me/#part=3
Well, I did look at the law and what the law (rather than the marketing web page says is):
I missed the “only” in 2701(a)(1)(A). I’m still not sure that was in the original Senate version of the bill.
So, you’re right – they can’t raise your rates because of pre-existing conditions, only because of age (imagine, it took a Democrat to re-legalize age discrimination!). They also can’t raise the rates of your other family members just because you made the mistake of getting old. 😉
Apologies for the error!
Late to the party here, but I also had AVMA insurance and had to drop it several years ago when my rate hit $1K/month. (TMI but my pre-existing condition which bumped the rates up is hemochromatosis, which has been stable for years and the treatment is free – donating a pint of blood every month or two. I even had my primary care doctor write a letter to the insurance company stating those facts but it made no difference.) Now I have a crap plan for $418/month with a $6K deductible that doesn’t cover a thing, and just found out that they are planning another rate increase in January. I don’t qualify for any subsidies, and the cheapest plan available on the exchange for me is $579/month, also with a $6K deductible. BTW, AVMA is now touting a new plan, supposedly qualifying for any and all exchanges that – surprise! – is not available in my zip code. I’m sure you will be happy to hear, though, that they cover gender reassignment surgery, although they have refused in the past to cover my migraine meds. So you can have a sex change, but don’t you dare get a headache!
No matter how you slice and dice it, it’s about the money….
Now you see people spreading the talking point that they deliberately enacted a bad program so they could “fix” it into Single-Payer.
I think that talking point is ridiculous. I think the whole point of the ACA is to make single payer unthinkable for at least a generation, thereby reinforcing the insurance companies’ stranglehold on healthcare in the US.
Mission accomplished!
LOL, NBCNews basically says liar, liar pants on fire.
For once in about a zillion years, I’m happy with them.
Obama Administration Knew Millions Could Not Keep Their Health Insurance.
http://investigations.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/10/28/21213547-obama-admin-knew-millions-could-not-keep-their-health-insurance?lite&ocid=msnhp&pos=1
Honestly, if these stories keep up, I think the dweeb might even resign.
President Biden! LOL.
And the White House web site STILL says, if you like your plan you can keep it: http://www.whitehouse.gov/healthreform/healthcare-overview
T, I’ll be sure to drop back by Thurs when I find out what my new, improved rate will be… If it is LESS than the $800/mon I’m currently forking out, I’ll send ya a crisp new $20!!!
But I’m betting it will beat least that much or more…
I didn’t say that. I only said they can’t use your pre-existing condition to determine your rate. I hope against hope that you have a decent rate.