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Breitbart:

McCain: We’ll Try to Pass Immigration Changes After GOP Primaries

Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) gave the clearest indication that proponents of comprehensive immigration reform may make their final–and strongest–push to get legislation passed next year after House Republicans make it through their primaries.

“I think conventional wisdom is that time is not on our side,” McCain told reporters on Monday after an event in Chicago. “But there are a number of members of Congress who have primaries and when those primaries are done, they may be more inclined to address the issue of comprehensive immigration reform.”

President Barack Obama has urged Congress to pass immigration reform legislation this year. House Speaker John Boehner (R-OH) is reportedly going to bring legislation to the floor within the next month and other House Republican leaders have indicated support for piecemeal pieces of legislation that can make it to conference with the Senate, where proponents and opponents of immigration reform had said a pathway to citizenship will prevail.


Why the hell do the the Congressional Republicans want to legalize a bunch of future Democrats?

While it is true that “immigration reform” is fairly popular, the term is ambiguous. Yes, people want to do something about the millions of illegal aliens in this country. Yes, people are willing to allow many of them to stay and eventually become citizens, especially the ones that came here as children and grew up here.

But amnesty remains unpopular, especially in GOP districts and “red” states. The GOP base is opposed to current immigration reform proposals. You would think that the GOP leadership would be doing everything they could to block immigration reform. But instead they are eager to pass amnesty!

The only thing stopping them is the GOP base.

Maybe this will explain it:

Money Talks: Midwest Businesses Support Immigration Reform

This morning, President Obama delivered a speech to the nation encouraging Congress to pass immigration reform before the end of the year. After quoting economic statistics to describe the positive impact reform will have on the nation, he noted “it is not just the right thing to do, but it is also the smart thing to do.” Citing broad support for reform from different sectors of society, including business leaders, he asked the nation to take a closer look at the polls: a clear majority of Americans think we should pass reforms.

The business community is traditionally considered to be politically conservative. Yet business leaders are generally viewed by activists to be a strong ally for immigration reform unlike conservatives in the House who oppose debating the Senate’s comprehensive immigration bill. Businesses need skilled workers to remain competitive and they want to be able to legally employ hard-working individuals with necessary talents no matter where they come from.


The business community is a traditional Republican constituency. What they lack in numbers they make up for in money. And they like cheap labor.

I am not a racist or a xenophobe. My ancestors were immigrants to this country. So were yours. Humans did not evolve here, they came here from other places.

The primary role of any government is to serve and protect its citizens. Maybe someday we will live in a world without borders, but that time isn’t here yet.

It makes absolutely no sense for us to employ immigrants when we have so many of our own people needing jobs. Yes, I have heard that old canard that immigrants take jobs that Americans won’t do. But if “poor” is synonymous with “black” (as the Vile Progs claim) then that canard is another way of saying that blacks are lazy.

I am a cynical pessimist. I know when the game is rigged and it is obvious that amnesty is a done deal and will pass with a bi-partisan consensus. But that don’t make it right.


For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat. – 2 Thessalonians 3:10


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77 Responses to Follow the Money

  1. Businesses need skilled workers to remain competitive and they want to be able to legally employ hard-working individuals with necessary talents no matter where they come from.

    Skilled workers huh? NOT! Dishwashers. Field labor. Line Cooks. NOT skilled labor.
    There is the case to be made that we need skilled labor here. Plumbers, electricians, mechanics, carpenters etc. And that ties into our flawed educational system wherein every special snowflake should go to college.
    It does not take a whole lot of skill to run a dishwasher. And clean the restrooms. And the floors, walls and ceilings etc.
    Sadly, Americans DON’T want those jobs at the rate restaurants pay. I know. I ran restaurants. Sadly, one immigrant will do the job at the prevailing rate that 3 American teenagers can’t and won’t do for three or four bucks OVER prevailing wage.
    What we do need in this country is more kids taught some damn work ethic. More kids taught that you have to start at the bottom and WORK your way up. More programs in school for the trades. A recognition that ALL work is valuable- including carpentry, welding, mechanics etc. Not everyone is qualified for or wants or needs a 4 yr degree.
    Ugh.
    rant over

    • 1539days says:

      Lou Dobbs made the point over and over that it wasn’t American unwillingness to do certain jobs, but the unwillingness to do jobs for low pay. One reason is that not working at all is a viable option. In New York, qualification for food stamps means you can get Medicaid, housing assistance, free schooling and a number of other benefits. In Europe, people can live on the dole for years, especially since the stigma is on the government for making jobs so hard to find, instead of on the layabouts who don’t bother looking.

    • Constance says:

      Very true, perfect rant!

  2. 1539days says:

    This is why McCain wants to wait until after primaries. He knows what kind of lies it takes to win one these days.

  3. SHV says:

    “Follow the Money”
    *****
    IBM lobbyists are primarily responsible for getting Schumer and Rubio together to form the gang of eight. The Senate bill changes laws that will give IBM and several other companies big profit windfalls in the business of H1B visas.

    “Microsoft, which also donated to Bennet and Rubio, set a company quarterly spending record on its Washington lobby efforts, hitting just under $3 million. According to POLITICO’s analysis of lobby disclosures, lobby efforts by IBM for the recent quarter came in at $1.9 million, with Oracle’s efforts at $1.6 million and Cisco’s at $900,000.

    With the immigration reform bill having passed the Senate, the tech lobby dollars are likely to start shifting to leadership in the House. In fact, OpenSecrets reports that Facebook PAC has already donated the maximum to House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), Speaker Johhn Boehner (R-Ohio), and House Majority Leader Eric Canter (R-Va.).”

    http://www.inc.com/jana-kasperkevic/tech-giants-reward-gang-of-eight.html

    Follow the Money…the so called “Two Party” system and partisan politics is just Street Theater.

    • Somebody says:

      There was a time when we may have needed the H1B, but that time has come and gone. We have tons of kids with various computer science degrees. There was a need, there was opportunity, kids went into computer science programs. Wages have been deflated in the tech industry thanks to the H1B program. The whole meme that we don’t have enough computer engineers is BS.

      • jjmtacoma says:

        Nah, there was never a “need”. The problem always comes down to the cost during the years leading up to the dot.bombs. It wasn’t that smart, educated people were unavailable it was a “problem” that they cost a lot. H1B program drove down the cost by increasing the supply. Programmers and technical workers can now “sit on the bench” until they take what is offered and they can be let go if they want too much.

      • Agree with the other comments here but think we under estimate the other elephant – work ethics, or more correctly, lack thereof. HB1s typically put their noses to the grindstone and remain there for at least a decade. Good luck with keeping recent university grads in the labs for more than a two weeks out of each month. That also applies to our border jumpers, too. They are serious about “following the money.” Our own kids? Not so much.

        • Somebody says:

          49er My son is a computer engineer and let me tell you that kid has work ethic +. He now works at a college and LOVES his job, but he’s only had this job 6 months. Prior to this job he was in private industry for a medium sized up and coming company which also took advantage of H1B’s. My son worked LONG hours at his previous job. He got to work every morning no later than 7am and if he got off work by 6:00pm he was thrilled, usually he got off between 7 and 8pm. However, even when he wasn’t in his office he was on call 24/7. He routinely got phone calls in the middle of the night from customers on the other side of the globe. He received no overtime compensation at all, he earned vacation time but was never really allowed to use it. He frequently worked weekends too.

          Several people at the college had been recruiting him for a couple of years. He ended up taking a small cut in pay when he made the switch, but in the bargain he ended up with better health insurance at a lower cost so it all evened out. He’s very happy at his new job and working only 40 hours a week has made him a new person.

          It is true that there is a lack of work ethic in some of the younger generation, but not with all of them. My son was enslaved to his previous job, at least that’s how I saw it. To be fair his work ethic netted him several promotions, but at what cost he really didn’t have much life outside of work. Burn them and turn them is how most of the tech industry works. I think the reason they have that attitude is in part because of H1B.

          Anyway my son wasn’t the only American at his previous company with a good work ethic. Although through the years they had others that bolted after only a few weeks or months. But it’s unfair to claim that an entire generation lacks work ethic, hell we had lazy people in our generation too.

        • jjmtacoma says:

          I don’t even know what to say about the “work ethic” comment. I’ve led development teams with both H1B workers and young Americans and both are very hard and dedicated workers. I have been impressed with most young workers (fresh out of college or interns) and they have not been more entitled in my experience.

          In my experience, the (young) American programmers were able to follow coding standards and interpret user requirements a little easier, with less re-work, but I will admit my experience is a small sample.

          I have heard similar experiences from other architects/team leads.

          • The Klown says:

            H1B is a sham. There are plenty of qualified Americans who want those jobs.

            But it is completely separate from the big problem of unskilled illegals flooding across our southern border. The government doesn’t even make a pretense of trying to stop them anymore.

      • votermom says:

        Imo H1-B’s were needed during the Y2K crunch because of the hard deadline & general panic.
        After that, not so much.

  4. Somebody says:

    I agree with you that some kind of amnesty is a done deal, but I don’t think the majority of Americans support such a bill. We’ve seen this play before on amnesty, fool me once shame on you, I have no desire to be “fooled twice”. Although there are some that truly feel we shouldn’t have any borders, at this point I think that opinion is still in the minority.

    You are correct our unemployment is too high as it is. Skilled or unskilled at this point we really don’t have enough jobs for our own citizens, why don’t we work on that first and create a need for more immigrants?

    When it comes to immigration in the US, why is it that every nation on earth has immigration laws most far more strict than ours……..but we constantly hear how racist and anti-immigration we are if we don’t want open borders??? Why is it we can secure borders in far away lands, but can’t secure our own damn borders? Those are rhetorical questions, but they do get to the heart of things.

    I could be completely out of touch with public opinion, but I think the majority of Americans want smart, fair, legal immigration and secure borders. Whatever Congress is cooking up, I don’t think we’ll end up with any of those……..and the beat goes on.

    • Constance says:

      I think we should stop taking the “best and brightest” from around the world and let those people stay behind in their country of birth and improve it for all their country-persons.

  5. OT: This is what some extremely progressive friends of mine dressed up their baby as for Halloween.

    Blackface

    Yes, that’s a gold chain he’s wearing. The ghettoblaster obscured the giant medallion attached to it.

    I couldn’t actually believe it when I saw it. Are they really this clueless? Yes, apparently. This isn’t very different at all from blackface, folks.

  6. DandyTIger says:

    187th Packers-Bears game on Monday. Go Packers!

  7. Preach it, Klown!!!!

    Every teensy-weensy clause in an Obamagration bill provides opportunities for further enrichment of sly politicos. What’s not to love?

  8. helenk3 says:

    first California and now Illinois to give driver’s licenses to illegals. we know they vote in those states. Funny how under backtrack American Citizenship seems to be losing value. Used to be something that many sacrificed and worked and aspired to get. Now you do not have to be a citizen to get the benefits and in some cases it has become a hindrance because citizens are expected to obey the law and get punished if the do not. Illegals get rewarded for breaking the law under backtrack

    • wmcb says:

      I’ve often wondered why the American progs don’t yell and scream over how racist all those European and other countries are.

      Because if I move to France, or Norway, or wherever, I don’t get public assistance or health services for free. No, I have to at minimum be a legal resident for that. But demanding that my own country not hand out freebies to anyone who manages to hop the border? RACIST!

      If I felt like getting arrested, I’d love for thousands of us to wait until some of these open borders advocates went out of town or something, and break into and take up residence in their homes. And when they return, point out that I’ve been living there comfortably for days, and mopped their floor and changed their sheets, therefore they OWE me some accomadation that allows me to stay.

  9. helenk3 says:

    http://dailycaller.com/2013/11/01/obamas-new-climate-council-to-regulate-economy/

    has anyone looked into just what backtrack’s executive order on climate change will do to the country/

    no president has ever tried to regulate how people live more than backtrack

    • DeniseVB says:

      I’m sure, like everything else, Obama isn’t aware of this. McAuliffe raised a boatload of money for Dems over the years, they owe him now. Pesky investigations are not going to stop those silly conflicts of interest claims.

  10. helenk3 says:

    http://freebeacon.com/historian-americans-dont-understand-meaning-behind-gettysburg-address/

    some Americans don’t understand the meaning behind Lincoln’s Gettysburg Address

    that seems to be true today

  11. Constance says:

    Maybe a few unemployed people marches on DC would make a difference. Maybe a march of unemployed college students. Then the unemployed Americans need to act distraught and keep saying “what about my children, the children, the children”?

    The problem is unemployment sucks up your time when you are a person who wants to work, you worry yourself sick and then it takes more time to try to find a job than you usually spend at work.

    The rest of us can send $10 to the Tea Party every time either major party brings up immigration.

    • DeniseVB says:

      I’m sure the WH team got ahold of Stewart since Beck and Fox gave him twinkles up for his jokes. This just proves he needs to stick with jabbing the media.

      CNN and MSNBC have had run ins with the WH for some unpleasant reporting about Obama. Prepare for more squirrels 😀

  12. angienc says:

    I think this story is a squirrel to distract from the Obamacare debacle. Rubio has distanced himself from the Gang of Eight bill citing Obama’s lack of good faith in the debt ceiling & CR “negotiations.” So has some members in the House. McCain is being the same useful idiot for the establishment as he was during the debt ceiling/shutdown debates.

    • Constance says:

      McCain needs to be Tea Partied.

    • DeniseVB says:

      I’ve been hearing that there are no votes for it, but Obama’s making a BFD out it to let the hispanics know he’s fighting for them, so be sure to vote for Dems to give me a super majority so I can finish off the country! Something like that.

      • DandyTIger says:

        Now there’s a pipe dream. Dems are not going to win the house, much less make big gains. The only question is how much of a gain will Repubs make in the senate.

        Actually, the real question is no longer about party as much as big vs. small government, or really, establishment (of either party) and small gov. populists (whether tea party of libertarian or whatever). I suspect small gov. will make gains because of obamacare.

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  15. wmcb says:

    I’m watching my Gamecocks play football, and getting ready to make some cheese and bacon pork chops. And roasted brussells sprouts.

    • The Klown says:

      That’s the fastest I ever went from salivating to nauseated.

      • The Klown says:

        My step-father believed in aversion-therapy. If there was some food you didn’t like he would force you to eat it until just the sight or smell of it made you want to puke. For me that included brussells sprouts.

        • wmcb says:

          I hated them my whole life until I figured out how to cook them right. Even people who hate brussel sprouts tend to like mine.

        • Somebody says:

          I lke brussels sprouts, but nobody else in my family does. I’ve learned to boil them and cut them in half. Then I saute them in bacon fat with shallots, salt, pepper, a little parmesean and crumbled up bacon. My family will eat them that way, although healthy they are not.

        • DeniseVB says:

          My real dad tortured me by rubbing food in my face, including sprouts. My parents would be in jail now under the modern Special Snowflake laws.

  16. DeniseVB says:

    Mrs. Cuccinelli has something to say to Terry McAuliffe and the real war on women 😀

  17. Mary says:

    WSJ reporting that Obama WH staff KNEW that many Americans would actually lose their policies under Obamacare, and actually discussed whether the “if you like your policy , you can keep it” marketing line was misleading and might come back to bite them.

    They decided anything else would “muck up” the simple marketing and went with it anyway, knowing all the time that it wasn’t true.

    • angienc says:

      of course they knew — only idiots believed them. the biggest issue, which is getting no attention, is that those who tried to call them on their b.s. were called racists, terrorists, etc by not only progs in the blogosphere & the msm, but by Reid, Pelosi, et al

  18. mothy67 says:

    If amnesty passes how will Social Security handle the millions of new beneficiaries? many have been here for decades and probably will have no source of income in the twilight years.

    • angienc says:

      if amnesty passes, the usa becomes mexico –no middle class, just the ruling class and the peasants.

  19. wmcb says:

    Okaaaaaay. Hmmm. Kind of a poor man’s Putin, this pond-dwelling mayoral candidate. I think he’s stoned or drunk. But could likely do as good a job as any of the others, regardless.

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