It Don’t Mean Nothing

Today is national Reading Tea Leaves and Chicken Entrails Day. It’s a little-known holiday that falls on the day after election day. Today, and for the next few days, pundits, bloggers and other bloviating gasbags will be telling you “What It All Means!”

It don’t mean nothing.

Chris Christie won easily in New Jersey. Terry McAuliffe squeaked out a plurality decision in Virginia. So what’s that mean for next year’s governor’s race in Florida?

It don’t mean nothing.

Every election is unique. There may be similarities, but no two snowflakes are the same. Like all human affairs, it’s a lot easier to figure out what happened than to predict what will happen. That’s why bookies make so much money.

Next year’s elections will depend primarily on two things – demographics and candidates. Money will be a big factor too. National politics, party identification, Obamacare, current events, luck and some other, as-yet unidentified factors will all play a role.

If you really want to you can spend the next few days obsessing about last night’s results. I can think of better ways to waste my time.

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85 Responses to It Don’t Mean Nothing

  1. It means pundits need to put beans on the table and papers need “straight matter” (their term) to paste up around the ads….which – now that the election is over – will seriously drop off. So papers will be thinner, too, and not able to be thrown up on the porch as easy. Makes lots of people nervous – until Veterans Day and Turkey Day topics start rolling in to save their bacon.

  2. The Klown says:
  3. The Klown says:

    Roger L. Simon:

    Liberalism as practiced in today’s America is a chimera, not actually an ideology but an alliance of interest groups controlled by elites for the preservation of their (the elites’) wealth and power. The interest groups often seem to be working against their own advantage by being so affiliated (e. g. African-Americans are in the worst shape in years under Obama), but not the elites who have been able to thrive. These elites are also able to appear altruistic to themselves and others while behaving in manners that are hideously selfish and atrocious to the common good. Liberalism is not so much an ideology in our society as it is a shield, a defense mechanism for a lifestyle.

    This accounts, in part, for all the lying and bumbling in the face of the Obamacare debacle from the president on down to his hapless porte-paroles Jay Carney and Deborah Wasserman-Schultz (who apparently is so flummoxed she cannot pronounce the word “misled”). None of them ever knew what the healthcare legislation was in the first place in anything approximating serious detail. That would have been been too much of a bother when it was just a pose. It was never really about people’s health anyway — it was for show.

    Some accuse liberals of being “statists,” but they are actually more confused than that. They don’t know what they think. But it doesn’t matter because they know what they want — power, control, and the wealth that comes along with it. (Does Al Gore believe in cataclysmic global warming anymore in the face of all the contrary evidence? Who knows? But he has to say he does.)

    What Republicans are now confronting is an empty machine. Few outside the academy believe in Keynesian economics anymore and the foreign policy of the Obama administration is inscrutable because it is non-existent. The current attempts to negotiate with Iran and to resolve the perpetual Israeli-Palestinian conflict are more of the same sort of illusion, doing something to appear to be doing something. As we used to say of the 1980′s Lakers, “It’s Showtime.” Only the Lakers scored baskets.

    • Lulu says:

      Except for the confusion of the word Liberal with Vile Prog this is spot on. They are empty selfish bastards. They look to fill the the void within themselves.

      • t says:

        Yes, exactly. He’s not talking about liberals. I hate when they do that.

        • The Klown says:

          Some accuse liberals of being “statists,” but they are actually more confused than that. They don’t know what they think.

          Nowadays “liberal” means “Democrat” to most people. Just like “conservative” means “Republican.” They are terms with no fixed meaning.

        • Lulu says:

          I think the difference is getting out but not with this dude. Even some Democrats are wanting to make sure they are not confused with Vile Progs but I don’t think it is out in the mainstream yet or generally understood. Pat Caddell (the old pollster) literally froths at the mouth when talking about the difference.

  4. Anthony says:

    Can’t even bring herself to say “misled”…. So what is it, Debbie? Americans weren’t myzled by the President? Or maybe he didn’t Mazel them? (that I can believe) – Or is it “Misled”?

    Fun starts about 1:04 in

    • swanspirit says:

      “Oversimplify” is the new word for LIE because the people are just too stupid to understand us when we LIE to them , which they should expect by now.

  5. Lulu says:

    I am sure there will be several media reports that Wendy Davis has a real chance to win Texas because of Virginia. She is so cool and wears hooker shoes and has raggedy hair and stuff. She is just like Ann Richards who also looked like a tramp. NOT. If I get a chance to meet her I am going to tell her to comb her fucking hair. Or even better wash it so she doesn’t look like a wizened hipster grease ball. Rant over.

  6. angienc says:

    McAullife squeaked out a “win” by a little less than 100,000 votes. Just like Obama in 2012 — fancy that!

    • Mary says:

      Yes….and with the strongly Democratic urban areas reporting numbers at the end of the evening, after they knew exactly how many were needed to win.

    • Somebody says:

      Have any of you heard about this ever? It’s supposedly a consent decree out of a case in NJ regarding challenging voter fraud. In the consent decree which apparently governs nationwide, the RNC can’t challenge voter fraud at least in minority districts. The decree supposedly expires in 2017.

      Last night was the first I’ve ever heard of such a case and I’ve certainly never heard of this blogger that posted about this back in 2012. He lists a case number, I assume we look up the actual case. Question to the attorneys on here…….if this case is true then it only pertains to the RNC and not the candidates or are the candidates covered too if they run on a ticket as an R? Surely it doesn’t pertain to local governments and election officials or private citizens?

      • angienc says:

        I’ve never heard of it & I just looked up the actual document — it’s 59 pages long so I haven’t had time to read it all yet, but it would only pertain to the RNC (a corporation — just like a person for legal matters!), not individual candidates.

        • Somebody says:

          That’s what I thought, it would only apply to the RNC, but I’m not an attorney and I didn’t stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night either.

        • Somebody says:

          BTW Angie I’d be interested to hear your opinion once you get a chance to actually read the case. I honestly had never heard of this case.

      • angienc says:

        If I get a chance to read it somebody I will definitely let you know what I think but I can’t make any promises as to when I’ll have time to do it. Sorry.

  7. angienc says:

    Oh, and don’t forget — Christie won NJ after choosing to put the state through the extra expense of a Senate election just a few weeks before this one so that the Booker turnout wouldn’t hurt his chances.

    It seems that the MSM are all behind Christie for 2016, which makes me like him even less then I already did.

    • votermom says:

      Like McCain, the media will love him right up to the general election, then it’s hate time.

      • The Klown says:

        Yeah, if he runs he’s in for a rude surprise.

      • Mary says:

        So true, VM…. I was watching Morning Joe this morning—they’re ecstatic that Christie won and “pushed aside the tea party people”

        What they didn’t admit publicly is that they KNOW polls show if Christie is the next Repub presidential candidate, he couldn’t even win his own state—New Jersey would vote for Hillary Clinton for president.

        They’ll love Christie until they don’t need him anymore.

        • Lizzy says:

          The election is still three years away. Personally I would be surprised if Hillary runs. As Obama is weakened there is so much crap coming out about his misconduct that their association will severely damage Hillary’s chances.

    • lyn says:

      I shall never vote for a Uni-Party candidate again. It’s time to tell the ruling class to go to hell.

  8. All the political hype just makes me want to get in the car and head back to Yellowstone – NOW!
    Is it December yet?

  9. votermom says:

    Terry McAuliffe squeaked out a plurality decision in Virginia.
    Yup. He had 4 times the money, the Clintons helping, and a fake 3rd party candidate and he still almost lost. My takeaway is that Obamacare is the one issue the GOP should hammer in 2014

    • angienc says:

      I read it was 6 times the money.

    • Constance says:

      But they won’t because Republicans represent the multinational corporations who are insurance companies and stand to rake in profits from their captive market of suckers, I mean American Citizens. Just like the Republicans don’t care if American Citizens have high unemployment they will still push to import non citizen workers through immigration reform.

  10. The Klown says:

    2014 looks to be an opportunity year for the GOP, but if recent performance is any guide they will find a way to fuck it up.

    The GOP establishment will sabotage Tea Party any candidates who win their primaries. They would rather lose seats than let the Tea Party win.

  11. The Klown says:
    • elliesmom says:

      The major lesson from last night is all Republican candidates should say, “If you like your abortion rights, you can keep them. Period.” They don’t have to mean it.

  12. elliesmom says:

    Picking through the entrails of last night does make me scratch my head once again over the future of feminism. McAuliffe had a huge advantage with unmarried women. More than +40. The institutions most committed to maintaining the patriarchy are churches, but they are followed closely by governments. So is it more patriarchal to limit a woman’s right to have an abortion or to make her dependent on the government for food, shelter, and her health care? Scratch, scratch.

  13. wmcb says:

    This guy is going to get creamed in the press, because his research is showing that roughy 70% of intelligence is genetic.

    Whether or not that figure is accurate or not, the truth is evident to anyone with half a brain and observational skills: Kids are not all equally intelligent. No, better teaching and environment is NOT going to turn every single child into a PhD. And persisting in this fallacy is HURTING those lower-IQ kids, because you are basically “preparing” them for a world in which they cannot, and will never, be able to function well. How is that compassionate, to set them up for a lifetime of unrealistic expectations and failure? Teach them a damn TRADE.

    This is another bad legacy of the hollowing out of our industrial base. What are we going to do with all those young people who will never be a doctor or lawyer or scientist, but who now have no career path that is commensurate with their abilities? Being a foreman in a manufacturing plant used to be a decent living for those of middling intelligence/ability. Now? Those jobs are gone.

    I’m all for some protectionism at this point, despite its drawbacks. Because there is more to consider than just economics: there is also societal cohesion to consider. People need jobs. People on the lower end of the Bell Curve need jobs, and a sense of self-worth and stability and productiveness.

    We need to revamp both policy and education with an eye toward a productive, employed, average citizenry – not just “pointless academic degrees for everyone.” We need to make stuff, and fix stuff. There is a HUGE chunk of the population that is never going to be able to make a living with rarified elite brain power, no matter how much you “educate” them. That’s just reality, through all of human history.

    • DandyTIger says:

      That will ruffle some feathers to be sure. I’ve always thought a good choice of either a higher ed or votec track that we used to have was a great idea. Just try to get a good construction industry contractor these days. And as we’ve seen from plenty of studies, happiness does not correlate with how far you get in higher ed, or how high level powerful a career you’ve achieved.

      • wmcb says:

        Some kids that suck at abstract thinking are a whiz at concrete, hands-on stuff. We completely leave those kids behind anymore, by telling them they need to work toward a bachelors degree. Why? They will struggle with it, and even if they make it, it will be useless to them, since the kids who are **true** academics will out-compete them for jobs! Bring back and expand on vocational training.

        • helenk3 says:

          there should be more schools like the Williamson School in Delaware.
          it is a four year trade school. you go there just as you would a four year college. They teach many different trades and it is not easy to get in. I would like to see at least one school like this in every state and have them treated as state colleges. The graduates of Williamson go on to very good jobs and many start their own businesses. they are dreamers but doers too

        • wmcb says:

          Sounds cool, Helen! Exactly the sort of thing we need. But we also need the jobs to go with them.

        • lyn says:

          I made more money from a two-year accounting degree than I did from a four-year journalism degree.

        • The Klown says:

          For decades we have exported or automated every possible job, then imported immigrants to do the jobs that are left.

          Gee, I wonder why we have high unemployment, a welfare state and a recession that won’t go away?

      • Constance says:

        Even salary earned doesn’t correlate with amount of higher education or grade point average.
        The kid I know who has earned the most out of college is my son who graduated with a 2.8 in marketing and has worked in sales since two weeks after graduating. He also got the degree without loans but his earnings are based on social intelligence not much of what he learned in school.

  14. foxyladi14 says:

    I made Potato Cakes for Lunch. (burp) 🙂

  15. swanspirit says:

    I like Terry McAuliffe , he has an engaging smile , and he was absolutely loyal to Hillary before during and after her campaign . He was as loyal as a Labrador Retriever . He reminds me of a Labrador Retriever , he has a big smile ,and an affable, amiable ,almost tail wagging demeanor . What does it matter that he has never held public office . He has a long history of business experience. So what if many of those business deals were sort of kind of on the shady side of the street ? No one ever proved anything. He has loads of political experience .
    He is a good boy , he will smile , and in office he will do as he is told .

    • LOL. Talk about damning someone with faint praise.

    • angienc says:

      Oh, I don’t give too much of a shit about Cuccinelli *or* McAuliffe. It’s the moving the goal posts from “McAuliffe by double digits!” to “A McAuliffe win by less than 5% will be an embarrassment” to “Pluarity win by McAuliffe is A MANDATE FOR OBAMACARE !!!!!!!” that well & truly pisses me the fuck off.

      • lyn says:

        Obama’s media cheerleaders will interpret every Democrat win as “A Mandate for Obamacare.” Yeah, that pisses me off too, because it will be a lie.

      • Karma says:

        That mandate for Obamacare bs gets me too.

        And if the WH stopped giving waivers we would see where the real mandate lies.

      • swanspirit says:

        And the “mandate ” is a complete falsehood because the exit polls show at least 71% of the VA. voters do not approve of Obamacatastrophe . But I don’t what they thought they were voting for if that is the case , because with McAuliffe in office that is what they will get .

        • angienc says:

          Heck, you don’t need exit polls. 53% of the pople voted *against* McAuliffe. That’s not a “mandate” for anything.

          As to what the 47% who voted for him were thinking it was either (1) Free Shit Army or (2) Cuccinelli wanted to “ban sex!”

    • TorchWood says:

      God, I hope that was sarcasm because that comment just made me throw up in my mouth.

    • helenk3 says:

      you did not say ” bless his heart”

  16. TorchWood says:

    And if it wasn’t, I brand you as an Obamabot In Training and FU!

  17. helenk3 says:

    this is something to watch

    backtrack and bunch looking to close obamacare escape hatch for companies that self insure

  18. The Klown says:

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