Kool-Aid is a Helluva Drug

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Investors Business Daily:

Dems Are the Out-of-Touch Extremists

We keep hearing about how the Republican Party is full of radical Tea Party crazies. But our latest IBD/TIPP Poll shows that it’s Democrats who are out of touch with reality and well outside the mainstream.

The public overwhelmingly believes the country is headed in the wrong direction, that current economic policies aren’t working, that President Obama is doing a bad job, that government should be smaller and that ObamaCare should be repealed. But not Democrats.

On issue after issue, in fact, Democrats are the outliers by wide margins, according to an analysis of the December IBD/TIPP survey.

They are, by and large, Pollyanna-ish about the economy, they can see no evil when it comes to Obama or ObamaCare, and they are extremists when it comes to the size and role of the federal government.


I’m guessing that the Democrats in this poll were less than honest about their true feelings. I mean, you can’t really expect them to admit they fucked up, can you?

Just like back in the darkest days of the Bush administration when there were about 28% of the voters who claimed they thought Dubya was doing a great job.


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113 Responses to Kool-Aid is a Helluva Drug

  1. DeniseVB says:

    Meanwhile, over in Thuglyville…..protesting is one thing, but storming a McDonalds ?

    http://gothamist.com/2013/12/05/photos_videos_fast_food_workers_pro.php

    • Anthony says:

      I guess the idea of being trained to be qualified for a better paying job never entered their feeble minds?

      If I were the owner of a McD’s franchise, I would terminate all of them for abandoning their post and hire a whole new staff.

      • DeniseVB says:

        That’s what’s missing in the coverage, the stores are individually owned, as most franchises are. McDonald’s made that happen πŸ™‚

        It was a “staged” walkout, so I doubt any of the employees were involved as was proven the last time the astroturfing paid union employees took to the streets. A real journalist will get in their faces and find out who they really are.

        My dd’s first job was at a Taco Bell for a few months in high school. She showed up on time her first week and got a raise. Could do math, put on the window, got another raise. It was good job training.

        • Exactly. Minimum wage jobs are not meant to be for heads of household. They’re for teenagers, retired people looking to get out a bit, or anyone who wants/needs extra cash. Yes, they are also for poor people, but duh — you don’t eradicate poverty by giving poor people more money or inflating the value of labor by government decree. You eradicate/alleviate poverty by giving people opportunities — good schools, safe streets, job creation. Gradual increases in minimum wage over time make sense, but changing the very concept of low-paying, entry level labor?? Insanity.

        • DeniseVB says:

          And one more thought, fast food ruined the 50cent/hour babysitting industry for young moms. Try competing with minimum wage for that !

          Last I needed a sitter (late 80’s), the shortage of available teenagers drove the hourly rate to about $5/hour (higher than min.wage at the time?). I was a good tipper too, so an average 3 hour night out cost me at least $20. It’s how you kept your GOOD kids. And they knew it πŸ™‚

        • Constance says:

          “And one more thought, fast food ruined the 50cent/hour babysitting industry for young moms”

          I baby sat 3 kids for $.50 an hour. It kept me out of a lot of trouble. My Mom was down the street providing backup if needed and I have to say it was an excellent form of birth control. I don’t know what kind of a fool would leave 3 little kids with me when I was 14 but she must have been desperate. The kids and I lived through it.

        • foxyladi14 says:

          We need more kids like this one. πŸ™‚

    • votermom says:

  2. fif says:

    80% approval rating by Dems? That is truly frightening.

  3. lyn says:

    Obama infected the Democrats with the Stoopid.

  4. fif says:

    What a train wreck. This is perfect example of the consequences of hubris. Obama pushed through this junk bill for his own insatiable ego. It continues to crash and burn.

    Young invincibles spurn O-Care

    Mounting opposition to ObamaCare among young adults is creating a new crisis for the White House.

    Even more troubling for the administration is that less than one-third of uninsured young people said they plan to enroll in coverage.
    Without a large number of young, healthy people in the insurance exchanges, it could create a β€œdeath spiral” of high premiums that could threaten the long-term viability of the marketplaces.

    http://thehill.com/blogs/healthwatch/health-reform-implementation/192132-young-invincibles-spurn-enrollment

    • lyn says:

      The White House needs to dangle a carrot for the young and healthy people to enroll. Free birth control wasn’t enough. Let’s see: Taxpayers will help pay off your student loans if you enroll in Obama care, or taxpayers will pay all your health insurance premiums. Obama can’t blame anyone but himself for this disaster. The idiot sociopath strikes again.

      • Mary says:

        Uh, no. Taxpayers won’t pay for their student loans or their healthcare premiums. Not happening.

      • abc says:

        Not going to happen. No fix to this awful law will happen. Dems passed a horrifyingly bad law, putting us all in huge financial and physical hardship for the sake of Obama’s (now thankfully failed) legacy. Repubs would just as soon watch us all die as give Dems anything by fixing it.

        We get to fester and wallow in this. And when it kills some of us? Both parties will slap their hands together and say, good, fewer of those low information voters to deal with.

        • Constance says:

          ” Repubs would just as soon watch us all die as give Dems anything by fixing it. ”

          The Obamacare bill is not fixable it has to be repealed and replaced with a bunch of small action bills. It is destroying the healthcare system we had, there is no going back. There will be widespread disaster for sick people although the corporations who make money from our healthcare will have their needs for profit met. Obamacare will be the new word for intrusive, expensive, government clusterfuck for many years.

        • Somebody says:

          You’re correct Constance it does have to be repealed I don’t see how it can be tweaked. A part of the repeal, however, must be that it is followed by a series of small actions as you suggest and I fear that may not happen. To simply repeal it without having a plan going forward could be almost as bad as the bill itself. Clusterfuck indeed!!

        • 49erDweet says:

          Repubs would just as soon watch us all die as give Dems anything by fixing it.

          Sorta the same way I won’t fix my grown kid’s SECOND bankruptcy?
          Or by “die” do you mean {{facepalm}}? Because IMO the only way to fix Teh Stoopid is starve it out. That’s why it’s call ‘tough love’.

    • DeniseVB says:

      I remember hating to see taxes deducted from my paycheck, I earned that not the government ! Ah, youth, just had no clue how it would benefit me one day. I wouldn’t have enrolled in anything that would have taken more money from me, I couldn’t even open a savings account, I just wanted to buy stuff πŸ˜€

  5. The Klown says:

    Ho Lee Chit!

    It’s FUCKING COLD!!!

    Did I wake up in Siberia???

  6. The Klown says:

    Townhall:

    During an appearance early Thursday morning on Fox and Friends, former Alaska Governor Sarah Palin dismissed MSNBC’s (former) Martin Bashir and his vile comments directed at her on air three weeks ago.

    “At this point I’m used to it, that’s kind of a sad state of affairs, to have to admit that I am used to it,” Palin said, giving credit to the media for criticizing his comments.

    Palin’s Sarah PAC sent a letter to MSNBC two weeks ago demanding a resignation after the outlet failed to fire him. News broke yesterday that Bashir has submitted his resignation. MSNBC has refused to issue an apology on behalf of the network for Bashir’s comments.

  7. Somebody says:

    I don’t know if they were being less than honest or that they don’t want to admit they screwed up, perhaps some of them. I know some die hard obots that would swear up and down Obama is the greatest POTUS evah, and that obamacare is the best thing to ever happen to the US. You can’t convince them otherwise, present facts they either bring up Bush, call you names or refuse to speak to you.

    I’m a republican, but I wasn’t a Bush fan, although I didn’t hate him with a burning passion. I opposed the Patriot Act openly and the invasion of Iraq (not because I thought Dick Cheney made up a bunch of stuff in the basement). These obot former friends, turned acquaintances and one family member were around during the Bush years and know that about me. They also know that I was in favor of health care reform, not this piece of crap though. Yet they throw Bush in my face, call me names and insist I’d rather have people die in the street than give teh one credit for being the best POTUS evah, problem solver number one, blah, blah.

    It’s maddening to try and have any kind of conversation with people like that, so I avoid them as much as they do me. Except the one family member that calls me all the time. Somehow it’s my job to defend the tea party, Ted Cruz, Sarah Palin, John Boehner, etc. Whatever the MSM meme of the week/day is. Somehow I’m connected to right wing central and it’s demanded by this family member that I explain/defend whatever it is immediately………nevermind that most of the time it’s not even true or only half true. But no obot I know is capable of truly defending Obama, it’s always because Bush, because you’re a racist–tea partier–wing nut–Fox News junkie, etc.

    Obama koolaid is the MOST potent drug I’ve ever seen. It’s like a large part of our country joined a cult and was brainwashed. I don’t know if they’ll ever locate logic and reason again.

    • DandyTIger says:

      It is classic cult/tribe behavior. The most important part of that is the hate and division pushed by the cult leaders. Keep the members fired up over the evils of the other. That keeps them in your camp and keeps them from noticing how crazy your camp is. Happens on the other side too (the 25-30% who think Bush was the greatest). It’s sad, and obviously very lazy thinking or not thinking at all. And there really is no way to argue without some well planned intervention helped by a group of friends.

      • Lulu says:

        It often takes something really bad to bring them to their senses. The health insurance imbroglio is doing it for a lot of people. Nothing quite jolts the senses like a doubled insurance premium for the ego of a president and his political party and their being caught lying through their teeth. And this is exactly why the Dems in Congress are freaking out. The more damning evidence of cronyism, incompetence and lying comes out the more the cult followers will scream. It is isolating them and they work best with social pressures which they are loosing rapidly. The self proclaimed smartest people are idiots and most know it now.

        • DandyTIger says:

          I think that will hit some of them. The ones that were so delusional that they really believed in math magic, that everyone would have better coverage for less, and lots of new people would get coverage. Those are just crazy people, so who knows how they’ll react to the truth. Many thoughtful libs will be fine with raising everyone’s costs to cover others. That’s part of the ideology. But some will have trouble with the lies. And some, I hope, might notice the implementation is a disaster.

    • DeniseVB says:

      A lot of Democrats are fighting back too. Especially if you follow the media’s comments sections. Moderate Dems are getting pissed at being called “rethuglicans” and “teabaggers” for disagreeing with Obama’s policies, I think they’re getting sick of being told to “sit down and shut up” by their own.

      Much like Republicans weren’t allowed to criticize Bush or else they were called “RINO knuckledragging fringe wingnuts” by their own party.

      How do I know this …. met them all at the tea party rallies πŸ˜€ It’s how you define the movement, No, I won’t sit down and shut up. You see that spirit in their “unOfficial” leaders, like Palin, Cruz and the other whacko birds the GOP hates too!

      • Lulu says:

        It is the same people who were told get with the program with Obama in 2008 or get the hell out of the party. I have already been told once so I am an independent and they can eat dirt. We told them he was bad news and they went along with him anyway. I was right and they were wrong so I got no sympathy. None. Screw up a health care and insurance system and you are going to pay a price. So I suggest they man up and take their punishment for being wrong and harming people. When adults screw something up they are supposed to fix it or pay for it. The Congressional Dems gave the power to this fool, they want him to fix it, it is their mess to for giving him the authority to fuck it up. Time to pay the piper with your career.

  8. abc says:

    I think this is going to work: http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2013/12/04/obama-young-people-obligation-obamacare/3871351/

    Yep, when the elders tell young people that they are obligated to do something, they just go right out and do it. No resistance. Never.

    #snarkfont

    • 49erDweet says:

      That seems about right. MY kids always did exactly what I told them to do. Just ask them. If you can find them. Most of the time they’re too worried about what THEIR kids are doing to stop and sit for a spell. {{smilingaboutthat}}

    • DeniseVB says:

      Bless their hearts, our young people are finally grasping “Dissent is Patriotic” not “Dissent makes you Raaaacist” πŸ˜€ Go kids Go !

    • Somebody says:

      So POTUS admits he was an irresponsible schmuck at 27 or 28, but he expects today’s youth to be responsible? Do as I say, not as I do.

      I was born the same year as Obama, at 27 and 28, I was long since responsible. I was married with two small children in fact.

      Most of you on here are around the same age, what were you doing at 27 or 28? The only people I knew at that age that were irresponsible drifters turned out to be bums, druggies, drunks or all of the above, just saying.

      Perhaps instead of chiding them he should come up with way to help the economy recover. So that young people that age can find decent paying jobs, then insurance probably wouldn’t be such an issue.

      • Somebody says:

        Shorter so 27 is supposed to be the new 17 and 28 the new 18????

      • insanelysane says:

        By 27, I had completed a 4 yr BA from large university,drove/moved across country alone ( except for my dog who was preggie at the time, she was with me), started a small business that is still thriving and was in the middle of getting another 2 yr degree in a different field. I was completely solvent and was easily paying all my bills.
        Was actively saving money too.

  9. helenk3 says:

    diversion and misdirection seem to work for the backtrack bunch.

    You will pay more for your healthcare because we think so much of the poor we think you should pay for their healthcare and that makes you a good citizen.
    Fast and Furious was a sometime thing that was the cartel’s fault.
    Benghazi was over a you tube video and really doesn’t matter
    IRS targeting is good because it is only directed at the other guy
    NSA spying is for your own good and will keep you safe
    Businesses closing or laying off people is just because they are too selfish to see the big picture
    it ok for backtrack to lie, cheat , and steal because he has your best interest at heart
    The bill ayres doctrine being taught through common core is good for your kids. they do not need a true history of this country and how to read and write, that is so old school
    Food stamps forever no incentive to better yourself is a good thing, you don’t want to be one of the selfish working people that do not want to share

    all is well in la la land, unicorns for the holiday as we don’t call it Christmas any more

  10. foxyladi14 says:

    I told mine that too. πŸ˜† πŸ˜†

  11. helenk3 says:

    http://weaselzippers.us/2013/12/05/aide-dem-senators-up-for-re-election-nervous-as-hell-because-of-botched-obamacare-rollout/

    wh aide—–dem senators up for re election nervous as hell because of botched obmacare rollout.

    gee i wonder why?

  12. helenk3 says:

    http://www.americanthinker.com/2013/12/targeting_the_low-information_voter.html

    about the imaginary SS surplus that the dems see, it is really not there

  13. DandyTIger says:

    Obots delusional? I’m shocked, shocked I tell you.

  14. helenk3 says:

    http://www.americanthinker.com/2013/12/obamas_plan_to_snatch_your_savings.html

    maybe it is time to think about putting your money under your mattresses instead of retirement funds

  15. helenk3 says:

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/12/04/Elizabeth-warren-president

    Elizabeth Warren says she will NOT run for president in 2016

    kind of like HELL NO you are not sticking me with this mess.

    and I say ” OH What a Relief It Is”

    • Constance says:

      I wish the “national media” would look at politicians from all over the country. They live on the east coast the most backward part of the country for women politicians and then when they finally get an east coast woman Dem Senator they announce she is the first woman president in waiting. Same with that woman who took Hillary’s Senate seat. OPEN YOUR Fing EYES MEDIA THERE ARE PLENTY OF MALE AND FEMALE POLITICIANS WEST OF OHIO WHO ARE QUALIFIED. Of course many of them are not Ivy Indoctrinated.

  16. The Klown says:
  17. helenk3 says:

    funny this is the first time someone ever told me don’t worry about the pricetag

    • westcoaster says:

      it’s ironic that these 20-somethings are expected to pay for insurance in spite of skyrocketing unemployment, and no pressure on the government to provide jobs

  18. helenk3 says:

    http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/59661

    low informations voters in a low information age

  19. The Klown says:

    No, I won’t be watching Hairball tonight or any other night. I have to wash my hair.

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  22. The Klown says:

    Breitbart:

    This has been all-too typical a problem with our media throughout the Obama administration. Whether it is the IRS scandal, ObamaCare, the ObamaCare enrollment numbers, or Benghazi, our acquiescent media is told something by the White House and simply reports it to the world as fact and without a hint of skepticism.

    Since the day Obama stepped on to the presidential stage, the American media have been uniformly terrified at what they might find were they to shift from stenographer to investigative reporter. And as we have seen over the last five years of scandal, lies and incompetence, that fear is not without reason.

  23. The Klown says:
  24. Mary says:

    Just announced: Nelson Mandela has died.

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  26. The Klown says:

    Obots are shameless:

  27. The Klown says:

    Is it just me or is the media orgasmic over Obama again because Mandela died?

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  31. DeniseVB says:

    Need. More. Nesting. Here πŸ˜€

  32. helenk3 says:

    Sarah is on the O Reilly show. he is being a condescending pompous a$$ and getting on my last nerve.
    I wanted to hear what she had to say about many things not him pontificating

    • 49erDweet says:

      IOW O’Reilly is being O’Reilly. One reason we’ll never be forced to watch an O’Reilly interview of 404 is they don’t make studios large enough to hold both those egos at the same time.

  33. helenk3 says:

    if your stomachs can take it shall we make a drinking game of how many times backtrack says I during his speech about Nelson Mandella?

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