Vile Prog Ethics 101 – Stealing from Corporations is Okay!

"This is my Amazon baby.  Her name is Tourette."

“This is my Amazon baby. Her name is Tourette.”


Mediaite:

‘Ethically Murky’: Josh Barro, MSNBC Hosts Outline How to Lie to Amazon to Get Parental Discount

Slate economics blogger Matt Yeglesias sparked a firestorm of controversy when he wrote a post discussing the process of inventing a fake child in order to take advantage of Amazon.com’s discount for mothers. On MSNBC, Business Insider’s Josh Barro talked about how he replicated the process and how he does not believe it is unethical to lie to businesses in certain circumstances. “If a lie is told to a corporation, it’s not really a lie,” Touré declared.

“I think I’m a very good guy and very good fake parent,” Barro began. He discussed the process of inventing a child in order to sign up for an Amazon.com discount available to mothers.

“Who’s getting hurt here?” Touré asked.

“I don’t think it’s ethically murky,” Barro added. He said that Amazon.com emailed him and said that the company expects the majority of those taking advantage of this discount to be honest about their circumstances. Barro noted that that discounts like these are “price discrimination mechanisms” aimed at an already price-conscious demographic.

“Amazon’s not even really into making money, right?” Touré asked

“They’re not losing money, so they have time to go on doing this,” Barro replied.

“I still say even if it is a corporation that you’re lying to, it’s still a lie,” Krystal Ball submitted.

“It’s a noble lie,” Touré shot back.


It’s fraud. Fraud is both a civil tort and a criminal violation. Depending on the amount and the jurisdiction you are in it could be a felony. It’s morally no different from claiming you have a kid to cheat on your taxes.

Fucking idiots.

My prediction: When this blows up in their faces they will claim they were just joking.


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62 Responses to Vile Prog Ethics 101 – Stealing from Corporations is Okay!

  1. The Klown says:

    If Sarah Palin said something like that the Vile Progs would hound her forever.

    Okay, they’re gonna hound her forever anyway, but you know what I mean.

  2. DeniseVB says:

    And another Special Snowflake ….. don’t you think if you can get into Harvard you’d know the difference between right and wrong ?

    http://bostonherald.com/news_opinion/local_coverage/2013/12/harvard_student_charged_in_bomb_threat_studies_partisan_taunting

    • leslie says:

      Not sure about that, Denise. Bronco went to Harvard. Does he know the difference between right and wrong? If so, then he should be prosecuted for oh, so many crimes. If not, then he should step quietly into the sunset.

  3. lyn says:

    OT, sounds like Sen. Max Baucus, D-Mont., is going to be the new ambassador to China. I thought he was going back to Montana to retire. It’s interesting how the system works.

  4. helenk3 says:

    vile progs have no idea of what the words principle and moral mean. I had this weird thought on my way home from the doctor. vile progs encourage people to be bad parents and would be happy if all the living kids were in foster homes or institutional homes. then the government could make payments and control future generations

  5. lyn says:

    Lying is accepted today. You can be a liar and still be president.

  6. helenk3 says:

    http://weaselzippers.us/2013/12/18/race-baiting-scumbag-al-sharpton-to-interview-mooch/

    this should be interesting. wonder if the anti-white talk will inspire more knock-out attacks

  7. votermom says:

    Actual Obamacare ad targeting gays.
    NSFW

  8. Lulu says:

    How much money are they talking about saving? Thousands or a couple of bucks? They sound like resentful, jealous, cheap bastards. Amazon wants the mommy business thus offers the discount. They do not offer a whiny tit discount for men jealous of babies.

  9. underwhelmed says:

    This is the logical end result of moral relativism. And until it comes back to bite this little dicks in the arse, nothing will change.

    Also:

    http://blogs.wsj.com/peggynoonan/2013/12/17/incompetence/

    So, firstly — how slow is this woman? Secondly — the irony, it burns. The article is about incompetency, and nobody proof read the blog post to make sure it wasn’t doubled up.

    Arrgghhhhh!

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  11. The Klown says:

    OMG:

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  14. Send the bozos back to college. They apparently skipped Ethics 101. Or cheated, which is more likely.

  15. The Klown says:

    Is this the end of Duck Dynasty?

    Duck Dynasty star Phil Robertson is making anti-gay comments in the January issue of GQ.

    In statements that threaten the A&E reality hit’s wildly popular and uplifting brand of faith, family and hunting, the Robertson patriarch said: “Everything is blurred on what’s right and what’s wrong… Sin becomes fine. Start with homosexual behavior and just morph out from there. Bestiality, sleeping around with this woman and that woman and that woman and those men.” Robertson then paraphrased Corinthians from the Bible: “Don’t be deceived. Neither the adulterers, the idolaters, the male prostitutes, the homosexual offenders, the greedy, the drunkards, the slanderers, the swindlers—they won’t inherit the kingdom of God. Don’t deceive yourself. It’s not right.”

    And if that wasn’t explicit enough, the “Duck Commander” added: “It seems like, to me, a vagina—as a man—would be more desirable than a man’s anus. That’s just me. I’m just thinking: There’s more there! She’s got more to offer. I mean, come on, dudes! You know what I’m saying? But hey, sin: It’s not logical, my man. It’s just not logical.”

    The magazine suggested Robertson’s son Jep endorsed his family’s beliefs: “We’re not quite as outspoken as my dad, but I’m definitely in line. If somebody asks, I tell ’em what the Bible says.”

    GLAAD quickly condemned the quotes. “Phil and his family claim to be Christian, but Phil’s lies about an entire community fly in the face of what true Christians believe,” said spokesperson Wilson Cruz. “He clearly knows nothing about gay people or the majority of Louisianans – and Americans – who support legal recognition for loving and committed gay and lesbian couples. Phil’s decision to push vile and extreme stereotypes is a stain on A&E and his sponsors who now need to reexamine their ties to someone with such public disdain for LGBT people and families.”

    A statement from A&E is expected shortly. Read GQ’s full article here.

    UPDATE: A&E released this statement from Phil Robertson addressing the controversy: “I myself am a product of the 60s; I centered my life around sex, drugs and rock and roll until I hit rock bottom and accepted Jesus as my Savior. My mission today is to go forth and tell people about why I follow Christ and also what the Bible teaches, and part of that teaching is that women and men are meant to be together. However, I would never treat anyone with disrespect just because they are different from me. We are all created by the Almighty and like Him, I love all of humanity. We would all be better off if we loved God and loved each other.” Beyond that, A&E had no comment.

    A&E has suspended Robertson.

    • The Klown says:
    • The Klown says:

      Twitter just blowed up.

    • piper says:

      Duck Dynasty has brought many new viewers and money to A&E. How many viewers will continue to watch Storage Wars and Criminal Behavior reruns?

    • angienc says:

      The end of A&E more likely.

      Personally, I’m sick of the word police mainly because they are subjective — Alec Baldwin calls a gay man — to his face — a “fucking queen” and he gets a pass. Phil Robertson says straight up his PERSONAL view is homosexuality is a sin, and that is VILE HATE SPEECH!

      Fuck GLAAD; Fuck the word police & fuck every hypocrite who jumps on this idiot train. (Yes, that means you — whoever you are reading this that agrees with GLAAD here; spare me your defense of your hypocrite rationalizations of denying the others the right to believe something differently from you).

    • angienc says:

      1 Corinthians 6:9-10 from the Bible: “Don’t be deceived. Neither the adulterers, the idolaters, the male prostitutes, the homosexual offenders, the greedy, the drunkards, the slanderers, the swindlers — they won’t inherit the kingdom of God.”

      • angienc says:

        Quoting the bible = hate speech.

        In case you missed it: fuck the thought police.

        • lyn says:

          I’m stealing this and putting it on my FB page.

        • leslie says:

          And there’s more of that hate speech in the Bible, I’m certain. I suppose that’s why bronco’s divisiveness can be defended by the obots. So it’s all good —–> until they say it’s not.

        • gxm17 says:

          I’m an atheist and do not agree with what the man said, but isn’t this a form of discrimination? All he did was talk about his religious beliefs. He didn’t call for any harm to come to anyone and, to the best of my knowledge, he didn’t use any slurs or violent language. IMO, kicking him off his own show for discussing his religion is beyond unnecessary. All A&E had to do was issue a statement saying that they understand he has a right to practice his faith but the TV network does not agree with him.

        • angienc says:

          It would only be discrimination if he was a fired for being a Muslim. You know — “the future must not belong to those who would slander the prophet.” /rolls eyes.

          A&E did issue a statement along the lines you write “His views are his own and do not reflect the views of this network” etc. before suspending him.

          A&E can do what they want but they did it because of the faux, hypocritical outrage by GLAAD & it’s those groups I have a problem with — instead of having an honest debate (which means *both* sides can express their opinions) they insist on everyone who disagrees with them not be allowed to speak. I’m tired of the *real* bullies accusing everyone else of being the bully.

  16. The Klown says:

    A comment from the spam filter by “blog”:

    It is quite entry degree with respect to black color metal without reserving unyielding interest to suit another factor. Phantom’s shouts include usual belonging to the type, with many distance given to the harshness.

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    In related news, true story:

  21. mothy67 says:

    As this will be all over the news I’d sure hate to be the parent of a pre-teen and have to answer the question as to what was meant about anus vs. vagina. Guess the guy is okay with female homosexuality though. I never watched the show and was actually planning to as anybody who says yes to being a Chia Pet but no to Baba Walters has to have some merit. Wonder how the interview was structured. Did he simply answer a question posed to him honestly? Personally I support the man’s right to speak his mind as well as those who were offended to apply pressure to extinguish his voice or change the channel. Blowback might be bigger with this than it was worth. I find the painting of the gay community with one brush to be personally more insulting. Andrew Sullivan does not speak for me and if you want the government out of the bedroom than shouldn’t you keep your sexual proclivities off of the street. I have seen things at Pride events that are borderline pornographic.

    • angienc says:

      Yes, blowback to change the channel is proper. But no, applying pressure to “extinguish his voice” is not an acceptable option. The way to respond to speech you find offense is with MORE SPEECH (changing the channel to express your opinion = speech) *not* by silencing those whose opinions you disagree with — that is the bedrock principle upon which the 1st Amendment was built. It doesn’t change because anyone’s personal feelings are hurt.

      • mothy67 says:

        Poor choice of words on my part. But I do believe you can contact advertisers or network execs if you so choose. That can backfire though as with Chik-fil_A. Over all I think that whoever these gay leaders are they need to choose their battles more carefully. Getting upset over the tiniest infractions I believe only dilutes support.

  22. The Klown says:

    Sometimes I just can’t help myself:

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  24. abc says:

    Amazon can suspend a person’s account for any reason. When they do this, they ignore your emails begging them to take you back. They also keep any Amazon credit you have.

    Crossing my fingers that this doofus gets suspended.

  25. fif says:

    Unbelievable, but so classic as an illustration of their “ends justify the means” mindset. It’s basically: whatever we want is righteous because we are the smartest, coolest, best human beings that have ever walked the face of the earth and if you don’t agree you’re a right-wing, racist red neck!” It goes back to our original disagreement: they have no core principles so everything is subjective to suit their bias.

  26. Propertius says:

    Myiq, a hypothetical legal question:

    Since they’re perpetrating this over the intertubz and MSNBC, doesn’t this really constitute wire fraud?

    http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1343

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