When Values Conflict – Duck Dynasty and Free Speech

Phil Robertson of Duck Dynasty

Phil Robertson of Duck Dynasty


Hollywood Reporter:

‘Duck Dynasty’s’ Phil Robertson on Indefinite Hiatus Following Anti-Gay Remarks

A&E has placed Duck Dynasty patriarch Phil Robertson on indefinite hiatus following anti-gay remarks he made in a recent profile in GQ.

“We are extremely disappointed to have read Phil Robertson’s comments in GQ, which are based on his own personal beliefs and are not reflected in the series Duck Dynasty,” A&E said in a statement. “His personal views in no way reflect those of A+E Networks, who have always been strong supporters and champions of the LGBT community. The network has placed Phil under hiatus from filming indefinitely.”

The news comes after Robertson compared homosexuality to bestiality in an interview with the magazine. He’ll likely appear in season four, which bows Jan. 15, since production is largely wrapped.

“It seems like, to me, a vagina — as a man — would be more desirable than a man’s anus,” Robertson says in the January issue of the men’s magazine. “That’s just me. I’m just thinking: There’s more there! She’s got more to offer. I mean, come on, dudes! You know what I’m saying? But hey, sin: It’s not logical, my man. It’s just not logical.”

During a discussion about repentance and God, Robertson is asked what he finds sinful.

“Start with homosexual behavior and just morph out from there,” he says. “Bestiality, sleeping around with this woman and that woman and that woman and those men.”

He goes on to paraphrase Corinthians: “Don’t be deceived. Neither the adulterers, the idolaters, the male prostitutes, the homosexual offenders, the greedy, the drunkards, the slanderers, the swindlers — they won’t inherit the kingdom of God. Don’t deceive yourself. It’s not right.”

GLAAD on Wednesday condemned his remarks as “some of the vilest and most extreme statements uttered against LGBT people in a mainstream publication” and said “his quote was littered with outdated stereotypes and blatant misinformation.”

“Phil and his family claim to be Christian, but Phil’s lies about an entire community fly in the face of what true Christians believe,” GLAAD spokesperson Wilson Cruz said. “He clearly knows nothing about gay people or the majority of Louisianans — and Americans — who support legal recognition for loving and committed gay and lesbian couples. Phil’s decision to push vile and extreme stereotypes is a stain on A&E and his sponsors, who now need to re-examine their ties to someone with such public disdain for LGBT people and families.”

GLAAD responded to A&E’s suspension, commending the network for its swift decision. “What’s clear is that such hateful anti-gay comments are unacceptable to fans, viewers, and networks alike,” GLAAD’s Cruz said late Wednesday. “By taking quick action and removing Robertson from future filming, A&E has sent a strong message that discrimination is neither a Christian nor an American value.”

Robertson released his own statement in response to the flap early Wednesday: “I myself am a product of the ’60s; I centered my life around sex, drugs and rock and roll until I hit rock bottom and accepted Jesus as my Savior. My mission today is to go forth and tell people about why I follow Christ and also what the Bible teaches, and part of that teaching is that women and men are meant to be together. However, I would never treat anyone with disrespect just because they are different from me. We are all created by the Almighty and like Him, I love all of humanity. We would all be better off if we loved God and loved each other.”


First of all let me state that I have never watched more than a few minutes of Duck Dynasty. I heard the buzz about the show and decided to check it out, and then quickly decided it was not my cup of tea. I’m not knocking the show, I’m jut saying it’s not for me. YMMV.

Secondly, let me state that I am a life-long heterosexual (retired) who was raised in a fundamentalist Christian church but I went over the wall in my teens and I am currently not particularly religious. I guess you could classify me as a theist.

In other words, I don’t have a dog in this fight.

What this whole kerfluffle is all about is a conflict in values. There really is no “right” answer to this problem. People are just gonna have to agree to disagree.

Phil Robertson is entitled to his opinion. He is also entitled to practice his religion. He believes that homosexuality is a sin. Not only is he entitled to believe that, he is entitled to express his views.

GLAAD and others are entitled to disagree with Robertson. They are entitled to feel offended. They are entitled to express their opinions. Last but not least, they are entitled to be completely hypocritical. (See: Baldwin, Alec) But they are NOT entitled to shut down opposing points of view.

A&E Network is also entitled to an opinion. But even if they have no opinion (or don’t want to admit to one) they have a monetary interest in this conflict. A&E is a corporation that is jointly owned by Hearst and Disney-ABC. They have an fiduciary duty to their stockholders to protect that monetary interest.

The First Amendment does not apply to this case because there is no government action involved. Robertson can shoot off his mouth, A&E can fire him, and if there are any contractual breaches then they can settle it in court for money.

But one thing that Robertson cannot do is force A&E to put him on the air.

The rest of us have rights too. We have a right to agree or disagree with either or both sides. We can refuse to watch Duck Dynasty or purchase any of their related merchandise that is widely available at Walmart and other retailers. Or we can boycott A&E for suspending Robertson. Either way we can express our opinions and intentions to the world.

Personally, I agree with Robertson about the anus vs. vagina stuff (I am pro-vagina) but I do not agree with him about homosexuality being a sin. I support same-sex marriage and LGBT rights but I think that sometimes the gay advocacy groups get carried away (transgendered bathrooms?).

Strategically I think this was a bad move by A&E – Duck Dynasty is really their only hit show, and compared to other cable programs it is a monster hit. I checked last night’s A&E schedule and during prime time they had three solid hours of Duck Dynasty. If they lose that show it will cost them millions.

On the other hand, maybe they are more interested in principles than money. {{LAUGHTER}}

Tomorrow and probably for the next few days there will be a lot of hot air and pixels employed by both sides in this argument. But in the end I doubt if any opinions will have changed.


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130 Responses to When Values Conflict – Duck Dynasty and Free Speech

  1. The Klown says:

    The closest thing to gay sex I have ever done was getting my prostate checked, and I can assure you that there was nothing the least bit erotic or pleasurable about the experience. I don’t know why anybody would do that for fun.

  2. driguana says:

    The towering babble rises higher.

  3. The Klown says:
  4. abc says:

    Doesn’t he know that Sarah Palin is the only person with whom you’re allowed to be disgustingly, crudely, anti-human? Toe the line, Mr. Duck.

    I’m sure that members of GLAAD and the “Human Rights” Campaign have always been personally kind to Sarah Palin and other women — or something.

    Me thinks Mr. Duck has a micro-focused, uber-detailed, pre-occupation with the problem….not that there’s anything wrong with that, LOL.

    He was A&E bread and butter so he figured he could say anything he wanted. This is a precautionary tale for the high and mighty.

    I have no duck in this fight. I agree with the Klown. All parties had the right to do what they did. I just hope Mr. Duck has a good savings account and told no one where he lives. I hope A&E survives. We need more cable. In my life, there are greater problems than what happens to a blow-hard or his network.

    • abc says:

      What kills me is that Phil would do an interview with GQ. Now there’s some irony for you….and not the Alanis Morissette kind.

      Sorry, I find the whole situation comical.

    • The Klown says:

      I just hope Mr. Duck has a good savings account and told no one where he lives.

      He’s worth about $80 million right now. I pity the fool that heads down to Redneck, LA to start trouble with him.

      • abc says:

        Yep, he’s “earned” his right to say whatever he thinks.

        • angienc says:

          No — you are completely wrong about Phil Robertson. He made himself a millionaire BEFORE Duck Dynasty (the TV show) started. He *earned* his right to say whatever he thinks the day he was born a free man in the United States of America, no matter how much the vile prog thought police bullies want to change that.

          As for where he lives — it’s pretty much public knowledge, but if you’ve ever seen the way he can shoot a squirrel in a tree through the eye you won’t be going anywhere near there. As he said on the show “In the big city, you call 911. Out here, I am 911.”

  5. I predict there will be t-shirts with quotes from Robertson. One of them will say:

    Sin: It’s not logical, my man.

    Or some variation thereof.

  6. DeniseVB says:

    I haven’t watched the show either, but I have been following GLAAD for years and their selective outrage from the fringes disquised as “gay rights”. What Alec Baldwin said is far worse than the duck caller said, and they were silent ? Or the abuses against gays in middle east countries that Obama’s cozying up to doesn’t bother them either ?

    Oh yeah, and it’s okay to call anyone who disagrees with Obama a “teabagger”, as I understand is a gayish word used in a vile context ?

    So I naturally take the side of anyone that upsets them, because like most of the left (NOW, NAACP ad nauseum), the hypocrisy is stunning.

    Maybe I’ll take another look at their “agenda” when they send a super-gay delegation of famous LGBT’s to a country that tortures and kills “their people” just for breathing the same air.

  7. The Klown says:

    The Robertson family are not a bunch of poor dumb rednecks. They are rich dumb rednecks.

    • Ann says:

      Phil Robertson has master’s in education (side note: he started ahead of Terry Bradshaw at Louisiana Tech University and declined recruitment to the Redskins).

      I was reading that all the kids have at least a bachelor’s degree, Si’s daughter is a Rhodes scholar, and the oldest is an ordained minister. Not sure if that is all exact – the internet can be a little fast and loose with accurate details. But, I would never call them dumb. They are certainly smart enough to be 1%ers on their own drive and ambition.

    • votermom says:

      If they’re so dumb, how come they’re so rich?
      🙂

  8. The Klown says:
    • driguana says:

      Read it this morning…good read.

    • votermom says:

      When I returned from my 28 days in rehab, in January 2010, it was harder to ignore the near criminal disconnect between Washington and the rest of the country, especially in an industry that has turned neighbors against each other while its instigators clock out and meet for a beer together, skilled actors who in many cases spend the day feigning hatred for each other on camera but are actually bound by their shared nihilism and reckless self-absorption. In Washington, a divided America is good for business.

    • DeniseVB says:

      Good read. The guy needs to write a book, then the movie 🙂

      Couldn’t help but notice “Palin Defends Duck Dynasty” is the top trending article at Politico right now. I bet it is … lol.

  9. DeniseVB says:

    Wait, there’s more……

  10. votermom says:

    OT – Target shoppers!
    I just heard this morning on the news that if you shopped at a Target store between “around Black Friday” and Dec 16, your credit card was probably hacked.
    Est 40 million accounts stolen.
    (I shopped there one time in that period for less than $10. Grrr. I called my cc company & they are sending me a new card just in case)

    http://fox2now.com/2013/12/19/target-40-million-customer-credit-debit-cards-may-have-been-hacked/

    • mothy67 says:

      I’d get a credit report as well.

    • leslie says:

      I just received an email from Home Depot thanking me for my online purchase. I made one online purchase a week ago. when I called to aske about this email, they said “It was probably related to the purchase from a week ago.” They could not tell me what the email was specifically related to. I suggested that they review their policies, and then redesign their email “Thank you’s” to reflect accurately what sale/purchase, the message specifically refers to. Now I
      have to call the bank and request a new debit/credit card. What a pain.

    • DeniseVB says:

      I wonder how many shoppers were signed up with LifeLock(tm)? If they’re Rush listeners that is 🙂 Bet that company is pulling their hair out now.

    • angienc says:

      My mom’s card was hacked — bank called her this morning as they caught a $12 suspicious charge. Card is cancelled; new one is coming.
      I don’t know for a fact she shopped at Target, but I can almost bet she did (she goes shopping every day between Black Friday and Christmas eve — it’s the marathon she trains for the rest of the year).

  11. Somebody says:

    I’ve never watched Duck Dynasty but my understanding is part of the reason the show is such a hit is precisely because of the family values they espouse. My understanding is that the family members are devout Christians and somehow A&E was surprised by this? (Correct my assumptions if they’re wrong, I honestly don’t watch the show) BTW you can’t win a values argument, because it’s about values and everyone’s values are different.

    My sister’s family watches Duck Dynasty all the time but for them it’s more about gawking and making fun of southerners. My sister was born a southerner…….a fact that somehow seems to escape her. Anyway my BIL marvels at the fact that what her perceives to be ignorant rednecks have managed to run a succesful business and actually become millionaires. His perception of southerners is that we sit on porches with banjos, drooling.

      • Somebody says:

        I used a comma! I was trying to evoke an image of deliverance.

        My BIL has an attitude that all southerners are ignorant and inbred. He believes any southern school is inferior, jokes that when a child learns to tie their shoes in the south they graduate from elementary school. He jokes about that, but he honestly believes graduating from a southern high school is equivalent to finishing 7th grade in California or the northeast. He also believes obtaining a BA or a BS from a southern university is equivalent to a high school diploma from California or the northeast. You can show him statistics and graduation requirements all day long and he blows you off. He honestly believes that and so do his children.

        He delights in telling southern jokes. Whenever they come for a visit he is so arrogant and condescending toward everyone. He has instilled his views of southerners in his children too. The kids are the worst because they don’t tend to have any kind of filter and some of the things they say and do make me want to slap the snot out of them. They openly joke and mock people in public, as well as their own family members. They mock all of us and it’s infuriating, their fake southern accents are the worst.

        Oh and they’re coming for Christmas this year…..fa la la la la la la la la!

        • The Klown says:

          They best be careful. Rednecks and southerners aren’t as restrained in expressing themselves as Yankees are. Even their women are known to enjoy public fist-fighting.

        • elliesmom says:

          Half my family is from the south and half of us live up nawth. My southern aunt taught me “Bless her heart”, for which I am eternally grateful. It’s just the right thing to say in so many situations. She signs her cards to me “Ant Betty” so I won’t forget how it’s properly pronounced. While I stayed up north to go to college, most of the kids in the family near my age swapped places. It meant you got to experience life away from home with a cocoon if you needed it. We stopped fighting the Civil War years ago, and all is good.

        • These comments about southerners being stupid, cross-eyed drooling banjo players always makes me wonder … do any of these northerners read anything from the Literary Top 100 List? Has your BIL ever read anything by such southern idiots as … Carson McCullers, John Grisham, Anne Rice, Tennessee Williams, Truman Capote, Harper Lee, William Faulkner?????

        • DeniseVB says:

          lol Somebody, klown was doing a riff on Dueling Banjos ….. I think 😛

        • Constance says:

          “Whenever they come for a visit he is so arrogant and condescending toward everyone”
          That is pretty typical of east coast people. They really believe they are superior people who go to superior schools and do everything in a superior manner. They are so completely behind the rest of the country in their treatment of women that it is just stunning.

      • leslie says:

        excellent!!! 😀

      • underwhelmed says:

        Da-da dang dang dang dang dang dang daaaaaang ….

  12. The Klown says:
  13. fif says:

    On an unrelated note: I am one of the lucky people in NY who had my insurance policy cancelled so I can give you an insider’s view on what the absurd Obamacare process. Hours on hold, repeatedly bumped off the web site in mid-data entry, and innumerable hours trying to understand the exceptions and rules to 57 different available plans. One plan I narrowed in on gave me access to a nearby hospital, but the only approved doctors were in a totally different county!?! My semi-retired father has been a doctor for 60 years, and he loves a project, so he started doing the research for me because I have an actual JOB that requires my attention. If this is any indication of what someone has to do to sign up, I can’t imagine most people going through it successfully.

    • DandyTIger says:

      How hard things are depends on the state. In NH for example you get a choice of one insurance company and a few plans. Easy. But the choices are horrible. In many states or areas of states you get two or three insurance companies to chose from. And the hard part is the data they have for what doctors and hospitals are in the plan are not up to date. You won’t find out if you can really use that doctor until sometime next year. It’s an adventure.

      • elliesmom says:

        Speaking of New Hampshire – Scott Brown has sold his home in Wrentham, MA, and is now listing his permanent address as his home in Rye, NH, which he has owned for many years. Still practicing law in MA until he’s admitted to the bar in NH, which should just be a formality. Senator Shaheen, “of course, you’ll be able to keep your insurance if you like it”, isn’t available for comment.

  14. votermom says:

    • DeniseVB says:

      Like the Super Gaystapo Delegation Obama is sending to Sochi ? And Greg Louganis wants every Olympic medal winning athlete to dedicate their medals to a gay family member ? True story. Let’s see, stick it to Putin AND ignore the violence against gays in Obama’s cozy Muslim countries. Go USA !

  15. The Klown says:

    Hmmmm?

    In any case, Douglas LeBlanc — a veteran journalist with Louisiana roots — offers his perspective and predictions on the matter:

    Phil Robertson knew exactly what he was doing in making his remarks to GQ. His making them as he did indicates that (a) he’s grown weary of accommodating A&E’s programmers and is happy to see a separation, (b) he doesn’t give the slightest damn what big-city yuppies will think of him, or both.

    There will be the usual hand-wringing and pressure on the Robertsons to repudiate Phil Robertson’s remarks. If anyone apologizes it will be Willie the CEO, and even then it probably will be the usual “We are sorry if anyone was offended by Dad’s shotgun mouth.” Phil Robertson will not back down or crawfish on this.

    Glenn Beck probably called the Robertsons today to let them know they’re welcome to move their show over to his Blaze TV any old time they like. Beck met Kay Robertson earlier this year at an NFL game and spoke highly of her on his radio show.

    Mr. Beck’s eccentric theories of the world notwithstanding, the content of a Robertson show on Blaze TV probably would better reflect who they are, without the pressure to say an occasional “Crap” or to make a redneck-style remark about having swampy pants.

    The ratings probably will decrease, as will the family fortunes, and I doubt that many of them other than Willie the CEO will be very concerned about it. The family members will, more likely, be happy to be in a less glaring spotlight.

  16. foxyladi14 says:

    Just because one CAN do something doesn’t mean they should.
    A little diplomacy goes a long way. 🙂

  17. The Klown says:
    • DeniseVB says:

      Here’s a tip for parents …. Want to get rid of your 18+ or post college Special Snowflake? Set house rules, no smoking, drugs, alcohol or bringing home a date for sexy time. Guaran-U-Teed, they’ll be gone and earning a living before you know it. It’s also know as a kick in the ass.

      • Constance says:

        I’m working that on my last kid (22) now. They actually always tell me my rules “aren’t fair” because they are “adults”…I just tell them it’s my house if you don’t like the rules, move. What ever happened to kids spreading their wings and flying? It seems I have had to evict each and every one of my little freeloaders. I left home voluntarily at 18.

  18. lyn says:

    One could say both Robertson and GLAAD are intolerant. Two wrongs do not make a right!

    • The Klown says:

      Not really. Tolerance doesn’t mean everyone agreeing, it means people being willing to peaceably disagree. Robertson isn’t trying to stop anyone from disagreeing with him. GLAAD is.

    • DeniseVB says:

      GLAAD’s ignored other “intolerant” idiots, like when Obama went on record for being “marriage is between and man and a woman”, now we know he lied about that too. The duck caller was more honest than our President O’Breezy.

      • lyn says:

        Why pick a fight with Duck Dynasty? I agree that GLAAD is totally intolerant. Robertson made a general comment based on his values, whereas progs like Bashir and Baldwin have directly attacked individuals. I’d love to know who really is behind this latest outrage.

        • DeniseVB says:

          Or why the GLAADs don’t go after “Sheldon Cooper” ‘s bigoted, racist mom on Big Bang? Her (the wonderful Lauie Metcalf) lines certainly are groan worthy….and funny too!

  19. The Klown says:

    Ed Morrissey:

    A few people on Twitter claimed that Robertson equated homosexuality with bestiality, but more accurately, he put homosexuality in a category by itself and equated bestiality with heterosexual promiscuity. Otherwise, he quoted Corinthians, which is standard Scripture for all Christian denominations, even if he offered a separate aside of a more blunt description of sexual organs than some wilting flowers seem to be able to handle. I wouldn’t have put it this way, but I’m a writer, not a small businessman with less time on my hands.

    Anyway, the point is this: A&E knew that the Robertsons were fundamentalist Christians when they started making oodles of money off of them. That was part of the schtick. In fact, that’s part of GQ’s schtick in this interview, too, which comes across in bucketloads in the profile — pointing at the rednecks and laughing. Yet the moment that Phil Robertson expresses what is actually a mainstream Christian belief in sin, he’s booted off the show because he’s … what? Too real? Or too Christian?

    Some people argue that this isn’t a First Amendment issue, and they’re right. It’s not a case of government censorship, but then again, no critic of this action that I’ve read or heard is insisting that the government or a court restore Robertson to the show, either. It’s a case of egregious hypocrisy, and a case of anti-Christian bigotry posing as a tolerance stunt. And this coming from a media outlet that survives on so-called reality television.

    • Lulu says:

      They belong to the Church of Christ denomination. They are very strict in many of their fundamentalists views. But they are not hypocrites as a rule. I do not think A&E understood what they were getting themselves into when they signed up with the Robertsons. They are not ignorant, nor uneducated but straight line Calvinists in their approach to everything.

  20. votermom says:

    Proof that God does exist? 😀

  21. The Klown says:
  22. Blessyourheart says:

    What about moron, I mean mama grizzly’s hypocrisy? She was all for Martin bashir getting the boot, and now dumb dynasty dick is having his free speech taken away? She’s lucky her supporters are as stupid as she is. Btw, did you know duck fucker once beat the shit out of a woman? Real moral authority from that one! You perpetual victims just love to cling to your persecution complex. What that asshole said was vile and bigoted. May he reap what he’s sown.

  23. swanspirit says:

    Duck Dynasty is popular because it is is FUNNY AS HELL ! I am not a regular watcher, but the times I have , I have literally laughed out loud. They are hilarious ! They are genuine people , and not at all ridiculous like Honey Boo Boo . I watched one episode where one of the dads took his daughter to buy a prom dress .OMG toooooo funny . Neither is Duck Dynasty the Clampetts in Beverly Hills . They have a certain level of astute sophistication , and they are loving and caring and respectful of one another as well, and funny as hell !

    • DeniseVB says:

      My granddaughter made me watch Honey Boo Boo with her because OmG!OmG!OmG! Grandma it’s so funny. So I did. It was about farting and a game about if you fart, and you don’t grab the closest door knob as fast as you can, then the rest of the family can beat the snot out of you. Hillarity ensued. Umkay, that child along with her twin have since moved to Denver where it’s too cold to fart. I got the last laugh.

  24. SHV says:

    “fif, on December 19, 2013 at 7:09 am said:

    On an unrelated note: I am one of the lucky people in NY who had my insurance policy cancelled so I can give you an insider’s view on what the absurd Obamacare process………. so he started doing the research for me because I have an actual JOB that requires my attention.”
    ******
    The bottom line is that it is “junk insurance” and worse than a previously legal catastrophic policy. One aspect of the Obamacare fraud that I haven’t found a definitive answer to is: Do costs for “out of network” care and “off formulary” drugs count as part of yearly maximum out of pocket expense?

    The real come to Jesus moment for Obamacare will happen, beginning Jan. 1, when people start using it for medical care and find that they can’t afford to pay the $5,000 up front money before Obamacare starts to pay 60% of the costs.

  25. mothy67 says:

    The Doctors talk show pulling out all the stops to shill for obama are. Found that really offensive.

  26. The Klown says:
    • Lulu says:

      Tell me this is a made up character from SNL. How can one dweeb hit every single ridiculous trait of a HBO not funny twenty something fantasy of just missing coolness. Bacon socks? Speeches at college? Obama for Obama employee? And he is a Krupp!

  27. The Klown says:
  28. helenk3 says:

    funny how no one talks about this part of the GQ interview

  29. swanspirit says:

    “I do not agree with what you have to say, but I’ll defend to the death your right to say it.” ― Voltaire
    “I may not agree with you, but I will defend to the death your right to make an ass of yourself.” ― Oscar Wilde

  30. The Klown says:

    WTF?

    Lowry goes on to connect what he characterizes as an immature version of masculinity with a liberal’s overreliance on a paternalistic government. “Pajama Boy’s mom probably still tucks him in at night, and when she isn’t there for him, Obamacare will be,” he writes. Millennials and Democrats just love their mommies too much! But while this is a ritual mockery that’s ostensibly about Obamacare, what it really reveals is a long-boiling, deep-seated fear on the right of the moment when a more beta-appearing man becomes the mainstream notion of masculinity.

    There’s plenty of evidence that moment is upon us. Hanna Rosin’s 2012 book, The End of Men, was the capstone of a growing tower of cultural works on the curious gender-role reversal [Repetitive citations omitted.]

    In an economy that is increasingly influenced by women (in all but three of the 2,000 largest metropolitan areas in the country, in the aggregate, single childless women under 30 are out-earning their male counterparts), the men who seem to be reaping the clearest rewards are those who seem to comfortable with the adjustments of a world that’s 40 years into second-wave feminism (and one in which, for that matter, gay culture is no longer fringe culture). The chest-thumping alpha males of yore now take their social cues from men who have worked out a more subtle way to assert themselves in the world. Metrosexuals aren’t a new, urban category any more; people who might have been referred to that way ten years ago are now just called dudes….

    But if Pajama Boy is nothing out of the ordinary—which I’d argue he isn’t—then that means conservatives are losing several culture-war battles, and thus a great deal of valuable electoral ammunition.

  31. elliesmom says:

    I’ve been hearing a lot today about Sarah Palin’s “hypocrisy”. Not just from our sweet-tempered troll. Martin Bashir said what he said on the air in the performance of his job and directed it at a particular individual. While his notoriety from Duck Dynasty might have been the reason GQ wanted to interview Phil Robertson, what he said was not said in the performance of his job at A&E, was not promoting violence, and was not directed at any one person. Alec Baldwin is a better comparison to Bashir.

  32. The Klown says:
  33. Lulu says:

    I just got back from the cardiologist and I’m not dead! He said I looked much better. I said full makeup and a hairdresser with a dye pot can do miracles. Seriously I am off restrictions so I can clean my dirty house. And I can eat salty ham for Christmas.

  34. lyn says:

    OT, I’m almost finished with Breaking Bad. Walt is my favorite character. I don’t like Jesse at all. I stopped watching the show after the ATM head crush, but I gave it another go and I’m glad I did.

  35. Anthony says:

    WOW – Obama’s bro spills the Tea, calls him out on all of his lies! Early Christmas gift?

    http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory/ap-interview-obamas-brother-writes-abuse-21271512

  36. piper says:

    Watched Brett B. tonight. His special guest was Sen. Mark Warner who did the 2 step on answering questions. Would like to hear others opinions on his ‘performance.’

    • DandyTIger says:

      He avoided pretty much everything and did the usual political dance. No surprise there. I don’t expect much more from the establishment of either side. He is one of my senators and was quite a good governor. But he’s a politician with ambition, and sadly this is what most of them do.

    • DandyTIger says:

      Maybe it was me, but I got the impression the panel and even Brett were a little star struck or something. They didn’t push much, and they seemed to like him. Maybe they just like him, or maybe it’s how he’s rising in the ranks and has a likely big future, or maybe it’s a charisma thing happening. Not sure.

  37. The Klown says:
  38. The Klown says:
  39. The Klown says:
  40. The Klown says:

    No Phil, no show.

  41. The Klown says:
  42. John Denney says:

    If a judge can order a a Christian to serve a homosexual couple against his will, can a judge order A&E to put Phil back on the air?

  43. rem says:

    I for one will be glad when this bunch of yahoos are gone, not because of what he said but because I believe this idiotic show and the morons on it have done more harm to the waterfowl population than market gunning ever did.

  44. gxm17 says:

    What I don’t understand is why a pharmacist can refuse to fill my prescription, due to his religious beliefs, and still keep his job but this guy just runs his mouth about his religious beliefs and he gets fired. Unlike the pharmacist, he didn’t impose his beliefs on anyone, he just voiced them. Seems to me that the freedom of speech/religion exceptions are not being applied fairly.

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