Culture Clash

A good portion of the Duck Dynasty kerluffle is simply a clash between urban and rural culture. There isn’t a whole lot of old school “rural” left anymore as everyone is connected to the Information Superhighway and almost everyone gets either cable or satellite television.

Imagine living your whole life in a small town where you literally know everybody. I don’t just mean you know their names, I mean you grow up with them, go to the same schools and churches, date and marry amongst the same group, then watch your kids and their kids and your kids’ kids and their kids’ kids grow up together.

Living in a place like that is very intimate. It’s like a big family, where everybody knows your secrets and you know theirs. Life in places like that doesn’t seem to change much. Some people like that, and some don’t.

Urban areas have more people living closer together and yet they are more anonymous. You can move a dozen blocks to a different neighborhood and it’s a whole new world filled with strangers. Life in the city tends to be more fast-paced.

City people often make the mistake of thinking that rural people are unsophisticated hicks. But they got sex and drugs and books and newfangled technologies out in the sticks too. Pretentious idiots like Josh Barro think that urban culture is superior to rural culture. Country folk disagree.

I would have to say that of the two groups, the rural people have a better understanding of the city than urban people have of the boondocks. They are also more tolerant of the other group. They kinda have to be, they’re outnumbered.

It’s ironic, because urban people are the ones who are into “multiculturalism” and “diversity”.

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121 Responses to Culture Clash

  1. The Klown says:

    In small towns a statement like “He’s Jimmy-Jack Brown’s boy” or “She’s one of the Baileys” is all the explanation for a kid’s strange behavior that is needed.

  2. The Klown says:

    BTW – If your town has one high school, it’s integrated.

    • elliesmom says:

      Both the town I grew up in and the town I live in now only have one of each level of school. The kids you go to kindergarten with are the same ones you graduate with.

  3. The Klown says:

    If you want to talk about prejudice and stereotypes, look at how many movies and TV shows feature plots that involve murderous hillbillies.

  4. Wanda says:

    Tell your bullshit theory to Matthew Shepard’s mom you bigoted moron. Oh yeah, and get a job, deadbeat.

    • The Klown says:

      It turns out that Matthew Shepard’s murder was somewhat different than originally reported.

      • Anthony says:

        Wanda is a detestable, beastly, bourgeois, babbling, shit-stirring troll, but Andrea Peyser is no better. I don’t believe her story

        • elliesmom says:

          Andrea Peyser was reporting an interview with the author, Stephen Jiminez, who wrote the book dispelling the myth that Shepard’s murder was a hate crime. Is she detestable, beastly, bourgeois, babbling, and shit-stirring for interviewing him? Or are you angry at Jiminez for writing the book? Or are you just upset that an iconic hero for the gay community was a poor choice to rally round? I’m still reeling from finding out the true story of the Mayflower folks, but it doesn’t change the facts. They were grave robbers. They started a great holiday, though, unless you’re a turkey.

        • Mary says:

          Ironically, Stephen Jiminez IS gay, and thought it was the right thing to do to tell the truth rather than use Matthew for other purposes.

        • Anthony says:

          elliesmom, thats absurd. Even Peyser says:

          Jimenez is not the enemy. He’s just a man who told an uncomfortable truth, as he saw it.

          Lets say its true. Are you suggesting that its ok to rob, pistol whip, set fire to and hang someone upside down on barbed wire until they die six days later for any reason? That was a hate crime, plain and simple.

          Your “armchair psychiatrist” questioning of my motives is also absurd. If you like, I can go there too: Are you defending Peyser because she is a woman? Are you agreeing with Jiminez because of your own unconscious homophobia? or perhaps even your own latent homosexuality? (see how ridiculous that sounds?)

          You protest too much, elliesmom. This is the second time you’ve been aggressive with me about something gay related. The last time, you followed me from blog to blog taking shots at me because I didn’t agree with you that a tongue in cheek video made by drag queens was an abomination to women (you claimed they projected a standard too high for “real” women to compete with, and concluded that ‘drag queens hate women). In the end, you became persona non grata everywhere but here. Don’t start up again.

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      • elliesmom says:

        I am going to speculate because it would be wrong not to that the people who are reacting so negatively to your link to Peyser’s article about Jiminez’s book have a personal stake in the legend of Matthew Shepard being true. The problem is when your outrage is based on a lie, it hurts your cause to get angry at people for pointing it out. Better to say we were all originally fooled, and find a better place to hang our banner. When I get sneered at for working so hard for Hillary Clinton by folks who want to rub my nose in it that she fell into line so easily for Obama, I don’t defend her. I admit I was and still am very disappointed in her. It was my mistake for believing she stood for something more than the Democratic Party. I wanted her to be a symbol for women who wouldn’t give up or give in. Because I wanted desperately to believe it, not because it was true. Same with the LGBT community wanting to believe Matthew Shepard’s death was a symbol for their struggles. Doesn’t make the struggle fake, just not this time with this person.

    • angienc says:

      Ever heard of “retirement,” moron? That means you are DONE working.

      The only “deadbeat” around here is you.

    • leslie says:

      Is this the same Wanda/Blessyourheart who lives I mom’s basement and is now going to lose both insurance AND unemployment at the end of the month? I guess I’d be angry, too. But I’d use that anger to look for a job.
      For me, retirement is only 2 years away! I’m gonna spend time w/grand babies and volunteering with Meals on Wheels and the city historical museum. Woohoo!!!

    • piper says:

      Wanda, So glad to hear from you. Now I can wish you and Bless You a joyous and Merry Christmas.

    • underwhelmed says:

      And bah humbug to you too, you sad little person.

  5. Lulu says:

    When you are insecure you have to have someone to look down on and denigrate. It really says more about the miserable, narrow and limited little shit lives of SOME urbanites than it does about the rural population.

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  8. The Klown says:

    Charles Blows exposes his ignorance and prejudice:

    In fact, I don’t want to focus on the employment repercussions of what Robertson said, but on the content of it. In particular, I want to focus on a passage on race from the interview, in which Robertson says:

    “I never, with my eyes, saw the mistreatment of any black person. Not once. Where we lived was all farmers. The blacks worked for the farmers. I hoed cotton with them. I’m with the blacks, because we’re white trash. We’re going across the field. …They’re singing and happy. I never heard one of them, one black person, say, ‘I tell you what: These doggone white people’ — not a word! …Pre-entitlement, pre-welfare, you say: Were they happy? They were godly; they were happy; no one was singing the blues.”

    While this is possible, it is highly improbable. Robertson is 67 years old, born into the Jim Crow South. Only a man blind and naïve to the suffering of others could have existed there and not recognized that there was a rampant culture of violence against blacks, with incidents and signs large and small, at every turn, on full display. Whether he personally saw interpersonal mistreatment of them is irrelevant.

    Louisiana helped to establish the architecture for Jim Crow. First, there were the Black Codes that sought to control interactions between blacks and whites and constrain black freedom. The Jim Crow Encyclopedia even points out that in one Louisiana town, Opelousas, “freedmen needed the permission of their employers to enter town.”

    Then, in 1890, the State Legislature passed the Separate Car Act, which stipulated that all railway companies in the state “shall provide equal but separate accommodations for the white, and colored races” in their coaches. The landmark Plessy v. Ferguson case was a Louisiana case challenging that law. The United States Supreme Court upheld the law, a ruling that provided the underpinning for state-sponsored racial segregation, and Jim Crow laws spread.

    Robertson’s comments conjure the insidious mythology of historical Southern fiction, that of contented slave and benevolent master, of the oppressed and the oppressors gleefully abiding the oppression, happily accepting their wildly variant social stations. This mythology posits that there were two waves of ruination for Southern culture, the Civil War and the civil rights movement, that made blacks get upset and things go downhill.

    Robertson’s comments also display a staggering ignorance about the place and meaning of song in African-American suffering. As for the singing of the blues in particular, the jazz musician Amina Claudine Myers points out in an essay that the blues was heard in the late 1800s and “came from the second generation of slaves, Black work songs, shouts and field hollers, which originated from African call-and-response singing.” Work songs, the blues and spirituals were not easily separated.

    Furthermore, Robertson doesn’t seem to acknowledge the possibility that black workers he encountered possessed the most minimal social sophistication and survival skills necessary to not confess dissatisfaction to a white person on a cotton farm (no matter how “trashy” that white person might think himself).

    It’s impossible to know if Robertson recognizes the historical resonance and logical improbability of his comments. But that’s not an excuse.

    First of all there is no context given for that quote. He seems to have been answering a specific question – what was it?

    Phil Robertson was born in 1946 in rural NW Louisiana and lived in a log cabin with no electricity or bathroom. He is hardly responsible for things that took place before he was born.

    • Idiot quoted here is in same condition as a Christmas goose, knowing nothing of which he speaks re: the south of the 1960’s. Much, much changed over a decade earlier, must that news flash must not fit Blowhard’s narrative.
      Cheers from £ondon where “free WiFi” ain’t.

    • Constance says:

      Here is an ugly truth about early American history that the east coast ivy indoctrinated elitists need to accept. The rich whites exploited everyone they came across. It wasn’t all whites who exploited blacks it was elitist whites. My early relatives were indentured Scots, do you think they were imported in luxury conditions or dumped in the bottom of a boat against their will? Do you think they lived the luxury life? They were separated from everyone and everything they knew forever and their work enriched their owner. They were indentured for periods of time that were longer than their life expectancy. The rich whites took land from the Native Americans and they used measles and small pox against them. So Robertson says his family is and was white trash. So was my family. I was raised in a trailer so I am also trailer trash. Do not put me in the same class with the white exploiters. Those people exploited my family too. So east coast elitists, you probably are guilty for slavery, I’m not and I come from white slaves.

      • The Klown says:

        They also don’t mention that the original Progs were racists. Some abolitionists too.

      • Lulu says:

        Thank you Constance. My first ancestors in North America were Welsh yeoman farmers hired by Puritans to take care of their cattle. These Welsh hicks were repeatedly imprisoned in England because their land was being “appropriated” for tin mines on Anglesey to pay their fines for existing. They had lived there a few thousand years. Immediately there were problems at Plymouth as Puritans wanted them to be servants plus yeoman and wouldn’t pay them. Their boss was one of the Mathers. So they took all the cattle including dairy cows out for pasturage one day and didn’t come back. Two years later in 1638 they show up in Virginia with anglicized names and the cows. It may have been the first cattle drive.

        What continues to astonish me about the Vile Progs is their complete ignorance of history. Everything they know they learned from movies and television writers rather than historians or even family history. And comic books. Maybe video games too. They are the feral children left in the living room with a tv and assorted gadgets (occasionally taken to soccer practice) to fend for themselves. They don’t even know how to behave to get a job and cannot interact without a smartphone (gadget). The entire country is reaching a “YOU (an idiot and self appointed elite) are not the boss of me” moment.

  9. mothy67 says:

    Related — NYC banning e-cigarettes. If I recall correctly the smoking ban was deemed legal because it protected employee’s health. Not the case now pure nanny. Odd that the place which I once viewed as individuality incarnate is no so docile.

    • The Klown says:

      Meanwhile there is a new study that says second-hand smoke isn’t nearly as dangerous as previously claimed.

    • The Klown says:

      Odd that the place which I once viewed as individuality incarnate is no so docile.

      Urban individuality is actually very regulated – you have to choose which kind of individual you want to be, such as metrosexual, yuppie, goth, punk, etc. You have to conform in your non-conformity.

  10. threewickets says:

    That’s a reasonable explanation. Also, Josh Barro and his friends can be jackass hypocrites and crybabies. 🙂 Often the biggest bigots are the same people whinging loudest about bigotry.

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  12. mothy67 says:

    Amen. Funny how my progressive friends are so conformist to their “superior” group think. Very little critical thinking. Reminds me again of being at the Rothko retro at the Whitney and listening to the comments. Regurgitation of what they had read telling them what they felt. creepy in my book to witness someone standing before a painting of purple on blue on light blue weeping at the profound beauty. Hate typing on kindle.

    • Lulu says:

      I used to have to take all of my out of town guests to the Rothko Chapel because they had read so much about it. I stayed out and wished them “Great suicidal thoughts”.

      • mothy67 says:

        Everything I know about fine art I learned from that nun on tv and by following around grade school tours at the Tate to listen to the guides. Not sure if it was the accent or that they simply approach it as less rarefied. Do know that knowledge of some obscure art does not set anyone above another. Older I get the more I loathe pretentious a$$es . I’d take Phil over most

        • Lulu says:

          I have a few painters in my family. One taught at a university and made quite bit of money, studied at the Sorbonne, etc. Very unpretentious but talented. My brother is a talented painter and architect and thinks everyone has creativity of some kind inside of them but are not encouraged to pursue it because of what he calls “art snots”.

        • trixta says:

          Sister Wendy, I think….

  13. The Klown says:
    • Lulu says:

      Is it illegal to wash down the driveway and sidewalks too? What about pressure washing the house? Can they rinse their dirty feet off outside before going in? How about hosing off outside toys or your dog? And who the hell calls the cops on neighbors for stuff like this? And does this goof cop have nothing better to do?

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  16. driguana says:

    I remember fondly a conversation that I once had with an African musician friend who told me that the biggest difference between country folk and city folk is that country folk still know how to make fire.
    Always thought that was pretty profound.

  17. angienc says:

    It’s ironic, because urban people are the ones who are into “multiculturalism” and “diversity”.

    Urban people are often the ones spouting off about “get back to nature” and “sustainable” and “green” when they are completely out of touch with nature in their concrete jungles. LOL

  18. Lulu says:

    NBC is going to cut high priced staff in DC. Money problems usually come from ad problems which come from low ad rates which are a result of low viewership. The “talent” who make big salaries are not earning their keep. “An NBC spokesperson, in a statement on Friday, said, “We offered a handful of voluntary buyouts in the DC bureau back in early November. Discussions are ongoing.” Paying them to go away is not working.

  19. leslie says:

    I wonder what will happen now… Charles whatshisname from CBS Sunday morning show, just wished everyone “Merry Christmas”. Who’s gonna boycott the show? I’m waiting for the uproar.

  20. leslie says:

    Please check spammy for me …. Thnx

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    • DandyTIger says:

      Now that’s funny. Didn’t know they reacted to this. Have they checked their name lately?

    • helenk3 says:

      did I read it wrong about cracker barrel?, I thought they took duck dynasty products off the shelf but kept duck commander products on the shelves. duck dynasty products = A&E……duck commander = Robertson family

      • elliesmom says:

        They were taking anything with Phil’s picture on it off the shelf is what I read.

        • Lulu says:

          And I read that they had taken them down because A&E, who controls the licensing on DD stuff but not DC stuff, told Cracker Barrell to do so. They also asked Walmart who told them they had already sold everything, sorry too late and GFY. It frankly sounds like A&E is trying to control the family with threats and licensing money.

  23. helenk3 says:

    out of touch business corps abandon duck dynasty and boy scouts.

    something that seems to be under the radar…..the companies that are refusing to support the boy scouts., an organization that has helped boy for many years

  24. foxyladi14 says:

    I object No bailout!!!! 👿

  25. helenk3 says:

    condescending msnbc host calls robertson-jindal stupid

    how are the ratings at msnbc???????????

  26. The Klown says:

    He he he

  27. DeniseVB says:

    Speaking of flaps, that crazy tweet “catching aids” lady just didn’t fire off one bad joke, she’s got a history of them. More about her, includes a link to her old tweets.

    What’s missing from this “liberal” source is her political leanings, so I’m assuming she’s a liberal 🙂

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  29. DeniseVB says:

    Hee, hee.

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    • DeniseVB says:

      The Obamas are in this week’s People for their annual Puff Piece interview and obviously before the Duck Kerfluffle. They think the Duck Dynasty guys are a lot of fun. Heh.

  32. DeniseVB says:

    Just watched my first Duck show. Pretty crazy funny. I’ll just keep it on since I still haven’t recovered from the stroke the Cowboys gave me today 😀

  33. mothy67 says:

    Is it wrong that I enjoy the responses to the troll?

  34. lyn says:

    GLAAD woke up America. I hope all the intolerant progs can handle it. This is going to be fun.

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  37. DeniseVB says:

    Here comes the Log Cabin Republicans’ smackdown……

    Hope Obama is sipping on his Mai Tai when he gets this presser 😀

    • votermom says:

      Somewhat related, thought provoking article on the abuse going on within male gay culture

      • mothy67 says:

        Wow. So much to refute. Sadly this man endured years of abuse and I do believe it has colored his perceptions. Agree that one aspect of a person(sexual preference) has been blown way out of proportion to where it becomes the dominant characteristic with many. I find the Gay Pride days obnoxious and a validation of stereotypes. I am often attacked for my belief that gay individuals should not create a child to enhance their own egos or fill a void in their lives. Claims that all gay men desire young boys is patently false. We all see what we are looking for and this man with his unfairly jaundiced eye may detect the abuses more than another real or perceived. Cruel what he must have endured but I do not believe that gay men crave children any more than straight men.
        One thing is clear to me though– the over reaching and assumption that GLADD speaks for me and many others has resulted in an unwarranted backlash. Oh well. I am going to head out to Chik-fil-A today dressed as a Santa in black face and distribute copies of Paula Dean’s cookbooks to white Hispanics.

        • Anthony says:

          ^the voice of reason^

        • votermom says:

          I don’t believe that all gay men are attracted to boys either, but the thought that those who do are hiding behind the “intolerance!” card makes me ill.
          Child predators have no place in any society.
          Have fun at Chick-Fil-A, mothy! 😉

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  38. swanspirit says:

    The 2013 Darwin Awards . It is a shame we don’t have the POLITICAL Darwin awards .

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