Kids and Guns


ABC News:

In a one-hour special, hidden cameras reveal shocking examples of what children do when left alone with a gun in the house. “Young Guns,” a “20/20″ report, airs Friday, January 31 at 10:00 p.m., ET on the ABC Television Network. ABC Anchors Diane Sawyer and David Muir explore the issue of kids and guns in interviews across America with parents who expose their young children to guns to demystify them, and parents who believe a gun is only secure from kids when it is in a safe.

Sawyer goes to a New Jersey neighborhood to talk to families about their attitudes on gun safety in the home. She also finds out whether or not they know if their neighbors have any unsecured guns and if this factor could pose a risk to their child during play dates.

The special includes interviews with parents who have lost their children to unsecured guns in their own home or at their neighbor’s house, and kids who surprise their parents by showing them where guns are “hidden.”


I do not currently own any guns, but for most of my adult life I kept a loaded gun in my house. This includes those times that my kids were either living or visiting with me. I owned at least one firearm from the age of 14 until a few years ago. The sole exception was the period of time when I live in Germany. I was never really a hunter, but at various times I owned a shotgun, a hunting rifle, a couple .22 rifles and three pistols. I even carried guns legally as part of my employment.

I taught my kids about gun safety. I told them if they saw a gun they should not touch it and tell an adult. But they knew I owned guns because I showed my guns to them.

I let them handle my guns (under my supervision) and took them to the range and let them fire them. I didn’t tell them where I kept them but I told them if they ever wanted to see my guns, hold them or shoot them, all they had to do was ask.

There was never any problem.

Like I said, I don’t currently own any guns. But both now and in the past I have possessed many dangerous things. Right now in my garage there is gasoline, pesticides, bleach, cleaning products and many other toxic substances. In my kitchen I have a wooden block filled with very sharp Cutco knives sitting openly on the counter.

I also have matches, liquor, power tools, prescription and OTC medications, electrical outlets, stove burners, electrical appliances, as well as a large assortment of other potentially dangerous objects. I don’t own a pool, which is one of the few hazards I have never owned. I currently live on a cul-de-sac, but there have always been moving vehicles passing by or near my children on a regular basis their entire lives.

I guess I am an unfit parent, but luckily my children survived to adulthood with only minimal injuries and a few minor scars.

The National Rifle Association (NRA) is the largest organization of gun owners in the world. You wouldn’t know it from ABC News but the NRA emphasizes gun safety. They even sponsor classes on the subject, for both adults and children.

Here are the NRA’s three fundamental rules of safe gun handling:

1. ALWAYS keep the gun pointed in a safe direction.
This is the primary rule of gun safety. A safe direction means that the gun is pointed so that even if it were to go off it would not cause injury or damage. The key to this rule is to control where the muzzle or front end of the barrel is pointed at all times. Common sense dictates the safest direction, depending on different circumstances.

2. ALWAYS keep your finger off the trigger until ready to shoot.
When holding a gun, rest your finger on the trigger guard or along the side of the gun. Until you are actually ready to fire, do not touch the trigger.

3. ALWAYS keep the gun unloaded until ready to use.
Whenever you pick up a gun, immediately engage the safety device if possible, and, if the gun has a magazine, remove it before opening the action and looking into the chamber(s) which should be clear of ammunition. If you do not know how to open the action or inspect the chamber(s), leave the gun alone and get help from someone who does.


I’ll give the final word to Dana Loesch:



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108 Responses to Kids and Guns

  1. The Klown says:

    LA Confidential is one of the best movies ever made. Way better than Chinatown.

  2. The Klown says:

    If my negligence cost some child his/her life, I don’t know how I would deal with that, even if it was a stranger’s child.

    • dailypuma says:

      Did you actually watch the special? I did, (mostly the first 20 minutes), I thought it made some great points about kids and curiosity.

      • DeniseVB says:

        Unattended kids and curiosity can be a fatal combination. Re: pools, matches, and the rest of the dangers Klown addressed in his post.

        • Somebody says:

          Absolutely unattended kids are the common thread to all of those and at the root are the parents and bad parenting.

      • wmcb says:

        Unattended kids is the problem with poisonings as well. Shall we outlaw all poisons, and tell every parent who has a poison in their home that they are bad parents? Or maybe we should encourage parents to lock them up, etc. Which most good parents do.

        If the “it’s for the children” anti-gun camp were sincere, they’d be all in favor of teaching kids and families gun safety. Let’s have the NRA do gun safety courses in ALL public schools, mandatory. If you freak out at that thought, then your problem is that you dislike guns, and “safety” is not your real concern, it’s a cover. IOW – you lie.

  3. The Klown says:

    It really bothers me that the left pretends that gun owners don’t care about children.

  4. The Klown says:

    I am watching Gladiator right now – a great movie.

    But I think of the NFL and UFC and picture what the actual gladiator world was like and I realize that things really aren’t that different today.

  5. lyn says:

    Dana Loesch should have Diane Sawyer’s job.

  6. The Klown says:

    Watching The Blind Side.

    Not all great movies are classics.

  7. DeniseVB says:

  8. DeniseVB says:

    Ok, here’s another tweet that caught my eye, when you have The Daily Beast debunking Prezzy…….

    • SHV says:

      Interesting that medicine isn’t mentioned. Women have made up >50% of medical students for a >decade(?). Wife told me that all of the first year surgery residents this year are women.

  9. DandyTIger says:

    90M gun owners, 40M kids under age 10, and 28 total number of kids under 10 killed in accidental gun shootings. That’s sad of course, but not even in the same orders of magnitude of the most obvious causes of child death.

    This anti-gun stuff is amazing. These people won’t stop no matter how insane their arguments. And I fear they won’t stop doing things like Fast and Furious to get what they want. The ends justify the means for them. And sadly, they’ve already shown they’re perfectly happy to have hundreds of people die for that cause.

  10. DeniseVB says:

    More on that MSNBC bi-racial flap from Ezra Klein’s replacement 😉 Seems more conservative than liberal families are of mixed race…tiny differences, but who’s your racist now 😀

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2014/01/31/msnbc-flap-new-evidence-on-the-political-views-of-mixed-race-adopted-and-step-families/

  11. DeniseVB says:

    This is from 2011, but accidental gun deaths don’t even make the Top 5. So we should ban cars, hot dogs, pools and fire too?

    http://www.listosaur.com/miscellaneous/top-5-causes-of-accidental-death-in-the-united-states.html

  12. DeniseVB says:

    I should be cleaning my house for our Super Bowl party tomorrow, but keep finding excuses….this is a goody….

    BOOM!

    http://therightscoop.com/liberal-laughs-at-col-allen-west-for-being-a-black-conservative-west-cleans-his-clock/

  13. Ann says:

    Ohhhhhh Cutco knives. Very nice. I have a few I picked up over the years and would like to get more. Their lifetime everything-warranty is fabulous.

    • The Klown says:

      I used to sell them. I own a set. So does my mom, sister, son and daughter.

      I’m not a great salesman, but they’re really good knives, and for the cost of shipping and handling the company will sharpen them for free – forever.

      • Constance says:

        I love Cutco knives. I lost my first set when my first husband and I divorced, it was the only thing we argued over. I was so thrilled when a neighbor kid started selling them that I bought a large set. His mom called me and said to knock off the buying binge, she was hoping he would fail at sales quickly and that she would direct and approve his next career move.

        • 1539days says:

          That’s interesting. Most of the stuff I heard about Cutco was the aggressive marketing of the company Vector that lures kids into selling them door to door.

          Nice to know they’re good knives.

      • cynic says:

        We’ve have ours for almost 35 years. Love them.

  14. The Klown says:

    Has anyone seen my liver?

    I had one last night when I started drinking.

    When I sober up I’m gonna be sick.

    • The Klown says:

      It appears that no one called the police this time. According to my browser history there are probably no incriminating photos from last night. I don’t remember much but there is an empty bottle of Jim Beam Devil’s Cut on the front lawn and the cat is glaring at me.

    • DandyTIger says:

      Would could possibly have gone wrong? Oh wait.

      • The Klown says:

        The car is in the garage and there are no new dents or bloodstains. No fresh tattoos or injuries, and I still have money in my wallet. I haven’t achieved full sobriety yet but I still haven’t found my clothes.

        • DandyTIger says:

          And not even any missing teeth this time? Nice.

        • The Klown says:

          Seriously, this reminds me of the Sunday afternoon when I was partying on an army bus and my buddy said “Dude, the the driver is gonna see you.”

          I said “Hey driver, is it okay to drink on this bus?”

          “Sure!” he said, as he reached back to take my bottle of Jim Beam and then took a swig.

          The next thing I remember it was Monday.

  15. helenk3 says:

    http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2014/02/high_marks_and_low_expectations.html

    this article made me stop and think. why every time we shop do they want us to answer a survey

  16. 1539days says:

    This is another in a line of ABC’s most ridiculous baiting experiments. They’re becoming the new Candida Camera, only not intentionally funny.

    I was watching Red Eye when guest Gavin McInnis mentioned a show where they brought a (real?) gay couple to a NASCAR rally to watch the “rednecks” react. When they didn’t the couple then proposed at the race. Then people congratulated them.

    • DeniseVB says:

      Gay baiting, lol ! How did they expect the crowd to react? Stone them? Set them on fire? Oops, that’s Iran, maybe ABC can try it out there?

      If ABC’s really brave, they’d take a Cowboys fan, all decked out in his gear, to an Eagles game 😀

      • elliesmom says:

        Last summer I was in the Boston Public Gardens. A woman had brought a little dog dressed in a Yankees uniform to play in the park. A small little boy went up to her and said, “Ma’am, that’s a dangerous way to dress your dog around here. Even the ducks will go after him.”

        • The Klown says:

          That’s no joke. The only thing worse than the Yankees-Red Sox rivalry is the Giants-Dodgers. Wearing Yankees gear in Boston will get you beat up. (Wearing Giants gear in LA can get you killed)

        • DeniseVB says:

          I sat in the nosebleeds at a Yankees-Mets (Subway Series) and fights broke out all around us. It was like sitting in a stadium full of Crips and Bloods. I think NY v. Ny is probably the most dangerous rivalry of all. 😀

      • helenk3 says:

        that is grounds for justifiable homicide in Philadelphia

  17. The Klown says:

    Life isn’t fair.

    My daughter manages a pub and my son-in-law runs a sports bar/restaurant in Indianapolis.

    I live in California.

  18. helenk3 says:

    The Deaf Italian Bookkeeper

    A Mafia Godfather finds out that his bookkeeper, Guido, has cheated him out of $10 million. His bookkeeper is deaf. That was the reason he got the job in the first place because it was assumed that if Guido would hear nothing then he would never have to testify in court. When the Godfather goes to confront Guido about his missing $10
    million, he takes along his lawyer who knows sign language.

    The Godfather tells the lawyer, “Ask him where the money is!”
    The lawyer, using sign language, asks Guido, “Where’s the money?”

    Guido signs back, “I don’t know what you are talking about.” The lawyer tells the Godfather, “He says he doesn’t know what you are talking about.”

    The Godfather pulls out a pistol, puts it to Guido’s head and says, “Ask him again or I’ll kill him!” The lawyer signs to Guido, “He’ll kill you if you don’t tell him.”

    Guido trembles and signs back, “OK! You win! The money is in a brown briefcase, buried behind the shed at my cousin Bruno’s house.

    The Godfather asks the lawyer, “What did he say?” The lawyer replies,

    “He says you don’t have the guts to pull the trigger.”

    Don’t you just love lawyers?

    • DeniseVB says:

      60 acres seems pretty small for an NFL stadium, but maybe it’s because the Cowboys new stadium required about 200 acres ?

      Dolphins stadium was the last one I was in. I swear that thing had 4 exits off the interstate.

      At one time the Jets wanted to build their own stadium in Hell’s Kitchen, Manhattan right on the Hudson River. I thought that was a pretty cool idea, but the residents slammed it down because it would wipe out a lot of historic areas or something. Oh found it…..the graphics look way less than 60 acres 🙂 It was part of the NY 2012 Olympic bid.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Side_Stadium

      • The Klown says:

        You don’t need as much parking if you have good public transportation. NYC is one of the places in this country that you can live without a car.

        In LA a car is more important than a place to live. You can sleep in a car, but you can’t drive an apartment to work.

  19. The Klown says:

    It gets better as it goes along.

    • swanspirit says:

      Ayers doesn’t even deserve a spot on the same stage with Dinesh D’Souza , he is a murderer . But this is a textbook example of Vile Prog thinking . The murderer is ok , because he is “on our side” whatever the fuk that is.

      • The Klown says:

        Ayers is the epitome of everything bad about the Boomer generation. Spoiled rich kid who turns into a radical Marxist and a terrorist, then uses Daddy’s money and political connections to buy his way out of trouble.

        Now he’s a rich radical Marxist. If he had even a shred of credibility he would have given his multi-million dollar inheritance to the poor.

        • swanspirit says:

          For those of the Boomer generation , Ayers is no true measure of who they were/are. He helped ruin what the rest were trying to do . He should be behind bars in the cell next to Charles Manson.

        • DeniseVB says:

          swan ~ I totally agree ! As a liberal Boomer from those days, the Weathermen and that ilk were unAmerican. Period. Perhaps my rage against Obama and his “friends” is rooted in that evil. Speak about your inequality, it should start with the justice system, not our paychecks. Creeps like Ayers got off free because of connections, not because of innocence.

        • Monster from the Id says:

          “The first guy who suggests violence is always the undercover cop” –bitterly learned wisdom of ’60s radicals

          *dons freshly folded chapeau de Reynolds Wrap*

          Maybe Ayers was a govt. mole from Day One, and so the govt. deliberately sabotaged its case against him?

      • DeniseVB says:

        oops, my below reply should have been here. So I’ll add myiq here, agree with you too. Connections are the REAL Inequality. No Justice. Just Us. <—–one of my favorite chants 😀

    • helenk3 says:

      I watched it and was talking to myself when ever bomber billy spewed his nonsense.
      I really want to know if he ever told the fools that follow him and study under him that to him they are considered collateral damage? If they died because of one of his or his fellow travelers bombing it would be ” Oh Well tough luck”
      and how fast he ran to daddy to save his skinny ass

      • DeniseVB says:

        helen, did you see the American Thinker review? Ayers Fizzled. As I said when you first posted the head’s up to the event, this should have been on Cspan, you can’t get any more Two Americas than this. 😉

        • helenk3 says:

          Yes I did see that. I wish they would show this to every high school and college kid in America. i would be a good education for them

  20. The Klown says:
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    • The Klown says:

      The bourbon is finally wearing off. As I sober up I can’t decide whether I should take a nap or puke. I’m probably gonna do both, the real question is which one I’m gonna do first.

      The worst part is that everything I ate and drank last night was supposed to be for tomorrow’s SB party.

      • DeniseVB says:

        Maybe you have the flu? That’s what I always told my Dad when I was in high school that is 😉 Oh wait, he never believed me and grounded me for two weeks. Isn’t that child abuse today? /snork

        The Abandoned Klown Posse Group has a (tks helen) cute video I wish I knew how to post here, I’m clueless without youtube vids 😉

    • Somebody says:

      That is really odd, the latest one had been an economist with the federal reserve. I wonder if any of the others ever worked for the federal reserve or if their paths crossed in any way???

    • Somebody says:

      I saw those, good for Gibson!! I bet my daughter would like one, although she’s partial to Taylor.

  22. helenk3 says:

    another good ad

    • DeniseVB says:

      Like Pelosi ever had to sit long hours in an ER. Calling Inequality on this one too. After her Stewart interview, I do think this lady needs to retire and go back to counting her money in private life.

  23. helenk3 says:

    I think you will like this website

    http://www.duhprogressive.com/

  24. The Klown says:

    Lanny Davis to Nancy Pelosi: Apologize for Obamacare!

  25. wmcb says:

    • The Klown says:

      I remember the good old days when chicken wings were really cheap. You could get 5 lbs of wings for $2.50, cut them up and make up a big batch of fried drummettes for a party or potluck.

    • DandyTIger says:

      Maybe PETA can “free” them first, the way they do with lab animals and others. You know, collect them and kill them. Can’t believe after getting caught at that stuff people still donate to them.

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  27. wmcb says:

    Buncha batshit hysterical feminists have decided that pads or tampons are patriarchal oppression, and they ought to just be allowed to bleed all over everything publicly, because feminine and natural. They are posting pics of their menstrual blood.

  28. DeniseVB says:

    TCH FB Page Report: Found some fun graphics. Check’em out at

    https://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Crawdad-Hole/127399844071124

    Thanks to you all for liking and sharing, the page visits are up almost 300% this week. I’m ~dvb.

  29. The Klown says:
    • The Klown says:

      What’s your favorite Woody Allen movie? Before you answer, you should know: when I was seven years old, Woody Allen took me by the hand and led me into a dim, closet-like attic on the second floor of our house. He told me to lay on my stomach and play with my brother’s electric train set. Then he sexually assaulted me. He talked to me while he did it, whispering that I was a good girl, that this was our secret, promising that we’d go to Paris and I’d be a star in his movies. I remember staring at that toy train, focusing on it as it traveled in its circle around the attic. To this day, I find it difficult to look at toy trains.

      For as long as I could remember, my father had been doing things to me that I didn’t like. I didn’t like how often he would take me away from my mom, siblings and friends to be alone with him. I didn’t like it when he would stick his thumb in my mouth. I didn’t like it when I had to get in bed with him under the sheets when he was in his underwear. I didn’t like it when he would place his head in my naked lap and breathe in and breathe out. I would hide under beds or lock myself in the bathroom to avoid these encounters, but he always found me. These things happened so often, so routinely, so skillfully hidden from a mother that would have protected me had she known, that I thought it was normal. I thought this was how fathers doted on their daughters. But what he did to me in the attic felt different. I couldn’t keep the secret anymore.

      When I asked my mother if her dad did to her what Woody Allen did to me, I honestly did not know the answer. I also didn’t know the firestorm it would trigger. I didn’t know that my father would use his sexual relationship with my sister to cover up the abuse he inflicted on me. I didn’t know that he would accuse my mother of planting the abuse in my head and call her a liar for defending me. I didn’t know that I would be made to recount my story over and over again, to doctor after doctor, pushed to see if I’d admit I was lying as part of a legal battle I couldn’t possibly understand. At one point, my mother sat me down and told me that I wouldn’t be in trouble if I was lying – that I could take it all back. I couldn’t. It was all true. But sexual abuse claims against the powerful stall more easily. There were experts willing attack my credibility. There were doctors willing to gaslight an abused child.

      After a custody hearing denied my father visitation rights, my mother declined to pursue criminal charges, despite findings of probable cause by the State of Connecticut – due to, in the words of the prosecutor, the fragility of the “child victim.” Woody Allen was never convicted of any crime. That he got away with what he did to me haunted me as I grew up. I was stricken with guilt that I had allowed him to be near other little girls. I was terrified of being touched by men. I developed an eating disorder. I began cutting myself. That torment was made worse by Hollywood. All but a precious few (my heroes) turned a blind eye. Most found it easier to accept the ambiguity, to say, “who can say what happened,” to pretend that nothing was wrong. Actors praised him at awards shows. Networks put him on TV. Critics put him in magazines. Each time I saw my abuser’s face – on a poster, on a t-shirt, on television – I could only hide my panic until I found a place to be alone and fall apart.

      Last week, Woody Allen was nominated for his latest Oscar. But this time, I refuse to fall apart. For so long, Woody Allen’s acceptance silenced me. It felt like a personal rebuke, like the awards and accolades were a way to tell me to shut up and go away. But the survivors of sexual abuse who have reached out to me – to support me and to share their fears of coming forward, of being called a liar, of being told their memories aren’t their memories – have given me a reason to not be silent, if only so others know that they don’t have to be silent either.

      Today, I consider myself lucky. I am happily married. I have the support of my amazing brothers and sisters. I have a mother who found within herself a well of fortitude that saved us from the chaos a predator brought into our home.

      But others are still scared, vulnerable, and struggling for the courage to tell the truth. The message that Hollywood sends matters for them.

      What if it had been your child, Cate Blanchett? Louis CK? Alec Baldwin? What if it had been you, Emma Stone? Or you, Scarlett Johansson? You knew me when I was a little girl, Diane Keaton. Have you forgotten me?

      Woody Allen is a living testament to the way our society fails the survivors of sexual assault and abuse.

      So imagine your seven-year-old daughter being led into an attic by Woody Allen. Imagine she spends a lifetime stricken with nausea at the mention of his name. Imagine a world that celebrates her tormenter.

      Are you imagining that? Now, what’s your favorite Woody Allen movie?

    • helenk3 says:

      there should be a special place in hell for people who abuse a child whether sexually or beating them.

      they do not change no matter what anyone tries to say and make excuses for them.

      I have not and will not watch a woody allen movie because of his sexual behavior with young girls

  30. The Klown says:

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