So long, Jay!

22 years of The Tonight Show with Jay Leno is officially over.

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128 Responses to So long, Jay!

  1. The Klown says:

    I was never a big fan of Jay Leno. I grew up watching Johnny Carson.

    • 49erDweet says:

      Ditto. Actually met Carson before he began Tonight. Late at night he always had the coffe pot on in his garage in Palm Desert and invited graveyard shift deputies to drop by anytime and grab a cup. Night owl, himself. Usually came out to chat.
      Have met Leno, too, at car shows. Decent guy, IMO.

    • elliesmom says:

      I find it hard to believe it’s been 22 years since Carson retired from the show. His last guest was Bette Midler. She wore a brown velvet dress and sang, “Set ’em, Joe. Give me one more for my baby, and one more for the road.” That couldn’t have been 22 years ago. I remember it too well.

    • foxyladi14 says:

      Same here. πŸ™‚

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  3. DeniseVB says:

    I used to be a devout Letterman fan until he just got too meanspirited and, well, icky. Then Stewart and Colbert seemed to take the same turn and I flipped the channel again. My late night tv “toddy” has been old Frasier shows for the past few years.

    Carson never wore his politics on his sleeve, so it was fun that everyone was fair game. Fallon lost me at “the bitch is back” and sack races in the White House. Edgy, meh. If he finds his “middle” game, he could do well. My advice to him would be to go Carson, not Letterman.

    • 49erDweet says:

      Yep on Letterman.
      I think Stewaret, Colbert, et al, go astray because they listen to staff chatter and mistakenly believe they’re hearing “America”, instead of creative liberals who don’t know reality..

    • cynic says:

      Love those late night Frasier reruns. One night, I watched back-to-back episodes of the very last one and then the first one. Great fun/great writing!

    • leslie says:

      I know, I used to watch Letterman when he was on local teevee but after he went nat’l, he became mean and then meaner, still. I stopped watching him. I really didn’t watch Leno because — not Carson or Steve Allen or Laugh-In. Butt, I have enjoyed his monologues in the recent past. That’s all I’ve really seen of his show.

      • The Klown says:

        Back when I first started watching Carson he was literally the only thing on. The other stations we got back then would sign-off after the local news. Even when we first got cable there was no original programming except on NBC – the others showed reruns and old movies.

        Then for many years I just wasn’t watching TV at that time of night.

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  5. votermom says:

    The margins are all messed up on wp suddenly. Anyone else seeing this?

  6. DandyTIger says:

    A big difference with the Johnny to Jay transition and this one is that Jay did tons of substituting for Johnny, so he naturally eased into the job, and people were very used to him. With this current transition, it’s abrupt. Not sure how it will go. If Jimmy sticks with his sometimes harsh political stuff (esp. the band openly mocking conservatives via music, etc.), then he’ll have trouble. If he can correct to the middle, he might be fine.

    I was a Johnny watcher too. And I watched Jay for a while, but then switched over to Letterman for a while. Don’t quite know why. Then Letterman, who was always a bit of an ass, got worse and worse. I didn’t go back to Jay as a loyal watcher after that. Not sure why.

    • DeniseVB says:

      Remember that tv movie that came out about the “rivalry” between Letterman and Leno for Johnny’s spot? It was totally biased against Leno, now that I think about it, much like Game Change treated Sarah.

      • 1539days says:

        “The Late Shift” was based on a book by TV writer Bill Carter. I read the book, and it was actually more detailed about the late night landscape at the time. CBS, for example, had a number of fairly successful Canadian import crime dramas called “Crime Time After Prime Time” at 11:30 already. In fact, 2 of the shows (Silk Stalkings and Forever Knight) went into syndication after CBS dropped them.

        Jay’s nice guy innocence was diminished somewhat by the fact that his agent Helen Kushnick demanded that Jay’s contract as permanent guest host include his appointment at the Tonight Show when Carson retired, which ended up forcing Carson’s hand.

        Carson never really talked to Jay after that whole incident, but did some phone calls into Letterman’s show.

    • elliesmom says:

      A lot of TV folks misread their audience. Look at Oprah. She lost a lot of women by assuming being African American trumped being a woman for the women who watched her show. Aaron Sorkin tried to create a main character who is a Republican without actually talking to any Republicans. He lost me when the guy did an anti-Koch brothers rant. It made the whole cast and storyline a joke, and it wasn’t a comedy. Fallon may have to rethink who is watching him in the earlier slot. Who is watching TV at after the 11 o’clock news? And who had already gone to bed before The Late Show came on?

      • DeniseVB says:

        My problem with Oprah was the “color of skin” slobbering while knowing full well Obama wasn’t even qualified to run Harpo. Where was she for Herman Cain ? He was the real po’boy who paralled her lifestory of rags to riches with faith and by working hard.

      • 49erDweet says:

        Fallon will not make it long term to the top because, the opposite of Carson, he’s insured his personal politics are very well known. He thinks his view are “important”, like a three year old is proud of his poop. Puhleeze.

  7. DeniseVB says:

    Just a little shout out to Conan humor…..

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  9. helenk3 says:

    I just got the weirdest phone call. some guy who could just about speak english telling me I could have a grant from health and human services because I am unemployed. hello I am retired wonder how much tax money is going out in the form of these grants

    • helenk3 says:

      just got another one that wants to send me to college on the government dime

    • 49erDweet says:

      Congrats! You are now on a world-wide database of senior citizens who are deemed “gullible”. Have fun with them because they are unshakable.
      Sometimes I waste their time, which is critical to them, by pretending to be interested and going on and on and on with questions about imaginary people and situations in my life that must be overcome before I can say “yes”.
      Actually, now that I think about it, THOSE are the ones that somehow never call me back. Strange. I was almost there.

  10. votermom says:

    Hey Klown, the new wp theme looks good.

    Though I am ROFL that you managed to find a theme named “Contempt”

  11. swanspirit says:

    I liked Jay, fully realizing no one was ever going to be Johnny Carson. I am convinced Jay was given the boot by NBC because he was willing to lampoon Obama . Jimmy Fallon doesn’t have the depth , maturity or subtlety that Jay has. And he blatantly adores Obama .
    Jon Stewart stopped being funny years ago , and these days he is nothing more than a shill for Obama

    • bluestate says:

      jon stewart’s “but the republicans are worse!” schtick is pathetic. he is a coward. at the end of the day, it’s all about keeping his fancy friends, his money, and his power.

    • 49erDweet says:

      “I am convinced Jay was given the boot by NBC because he was willing to lampoon Obama”

      Interesting comment from Jay in the closing moments of that video. “I don’t know anybody (working in production at those other studios)”.
      Now that NBC is terminating his entire production Burbank production staff that may no longer hold true. He is smart enough, and big enough, to take those that don’t want to uproot their families with him to another studio six blocks away – if he wants to.
      This may not be over.

      • bluestate says:

        yeah, i don’t care what he’s claiming now. i think he will reappear soon enough with a similar talk show.

  12. DeniseVB says:

    Contempt is one of my favorites πŸ˜€

    Spoiler alert: If you plan on watching the Sochi Opening Ceremonies tonight, it’s being live-tweeted and blogged and facebooked all over the place with photos.

    Not sure if one of NBC’s sports channels is covering it live?

  13. helenk3 says:

    this is a sad and funny take on the New York Times and the staffers there

  14. bluestate says:

    will be surprised if fallon fares much better than conan did. nbc is the worst.

  15. helenk3 says:

    you can not fix stupid……..

    many bars do this . My husband worked in some.
    believe me you did not want the “pagans” and the “warlocks” in the same bar wearing ” colors”

  16. helenk3 says:

    like this format. easy on the eyes

  17. The Klown says:


    For those of you joining us late, the blog looks different because WordPress made us choose a new layout. I have tentatively chosen this one, but I may change it and I will definitely tinker with it if I keep it.

  18. helenk3 says:

    this is off topic and not really being talked about
    the farm bill that was just passed by both sides of the congress
    look at the waste and think of the national debt

    • 49erDweet says:

      My view is that it probably passed because we have a three party congress right now, and none of the parties wanted to take a hit for between “anti-agriculture”, thus pork-a-plenty rules applied. If the three party thing is transitional, and one of them fades into insignificance later this year, we will survive. If that doesn’t happen we are toast, anyway, and in the words of one famous American, “What difference does it make”?

  19. helenk3 says:

    this makes me angry
    so who made this guy SOS it was not the dems.
    that kool-aid really rots your brain

    • 49erDweet says:

      Powell was never “conservative”. As a rising star general officer he was personally apolitical but worked well with Republican administrations, and rode those coattails all the way into the State department by being judicious in his public statements. Only in retirement could he drop the mask.

  20. DeniseVB says:

    Ok, this not a spoiler as much as it’s a teaser …. yeah, I waded into the cesspool that is anti-Putin world press Olympic social media coverage and nobody seems upset about the Opening Ceremony’s tribute to Stalin? I’m just guessing it’s a subliminal warning to the U.S. ? I could be wrong πŸ˜›

  21. 49erDweet says:

    Looking at webcams the other day and ran across these two that reminded me of Proud Military Mom, whom I think said she was working close by this feature:
    The first one is a still shot which refreshes every 30 seconds and provides lots of info
    The second is actually live but a little more obscured position
    Hope PMM is well.

  22. mothy67 says:

    So how does this digital health records thing work? I have to find a new primary care physician because my former is not covered and he will not take cash. Been calling around but never released my records . Finally got a call from a woman who told me that the doctor would not be able to see me as I have acted AMA(against medical advice). How do they know that? Never released anything. Ian’ t that a HIPPA violation? My rebellious action was that I weaned myself off the meds that were killing me. I weigh 148 now but was at 212 in August when my kidneys shut down. The diuretics sent my potassium through the roof. I am of the always get a second opinion school but what is the point if all they are going to do is coding.

  23. mothy67 says:

    Coding= co sign I despise auto CORRECT

  24. wmcb says:

    Timothy, docs are allowed under HIPPA to share your info, even without your release, **IF** it’s for treatment purposes. If the second doc was not actually treating you, but told the first doc he was in order to get him to send your records, 2nd doc is in violation. If that’s the case, sue the 2nd doc. He had zero right to your records.

    • mothy67 says:

      Can’t be bothered with suing but will file a complaint. I am appalled at what is happening to the health care industry. I had corrective surgery for Tetrology of Fallot (blue baby) in 1970 and spent a considerable amount of time in hospitals as a kid. When I went to the emergency room last January I was admitted and told I had two months to live. I was naive but not entirely clueless. They gave me a mega shot of K before my blood work was even back and as I always ask when the intern came in to give me another shot I said what’s this and she said Heporon or something like that. I calmly asked why they would give me something to increase clotting factors and then administer something that thinned the blood. Did not get the shot. I cannot express how dreadful my treatment was. I did not have health insurance but I did have several credit cards that got maxed. Opted to use a clinic for follow up as all I really needed was the scrip for blood work that I can monitor myself. When I was following docs orders I had a MELD score of 28. Now it is under 10. My mother was an RN and I am awed by those that choose to practice medicine as the hours and pay leave a lot to be desired but from my Vista things do not look so good and me thinks the deluge of the previously uninsured will only complicate things. One doctor actually told me I was lying when I was getting an E G D and he asked about prosthetics and I said not sure if this counts but my heart has Teflon and pig valves. He argued with me. Said it was impossible that I still had them. Told me they only lasted a few years. This took place as he was about to give me that twilight drug that killed Micheal Jackson.

      • leslie says:

        You can file a complaint with the hospital,clinic, and/or your state department of professional regulations as well as the state or national AMA if the MD is a member. And you should. It is in direct violation just as wmcb said.

        • mothy67 says:

          After much thought I think I am going to do a direct confrontation. Did someone make an innocent mistake? Medical offices are inundated right now with absurd paperwork. Perhaps everything just got confused. For a receptionist/medical assistant to use the term AMA and leave it on my voice mail tells me something. Doctors work way too hard to get there. I am angry but see nothing palliative about raising a stink. I will address the issue but nothing Igor me will be gained by making this man’s life more difficult.

      • Somebody says:

        I’m glad you’re doing better and I hope that trend continues. BTW was the shot they were trying to give you called Heparin? Heparin is used to prevent blood clots. My daughter used to get Heparin all the time during cancer treatment they would always flush her port with Heparin after chemo. A few years ago a star’s twin babies almost died from an overdose of Heparin…..Dennis Quad I think it was. Anyway it really is used to thin your blood.

        As for labs, check out my med lab dot com. There are a couple of other such sites, where you can get lab orders without actually visiting the doctor (you do an e-consult). It depends on the kind of tests you’re talking about though, some of the tests they require you to get the results from an actual doctor in their office. If you’re talking a standard CBC or other run of the mill tests though you can get those for WAY less via the online sites, they contract with labcorp and quest that’s where you have the labs drawn.

        • mothy67 says:

          Thought I had to get a script to get blood work. I am not having a transplant. Do not want it. Agonized over the decision but not what I want. Still hounded by the team to at least consider. W T F? Thought there was a shortage. I looked at everything I could find before making my decision yet they seem to want me to need it. Won’t say what I suspect because it is unfathomable.

      • The Klown says:

        It is really in your best interest to ask questions and read up on your condition, treatments and the drugs they give you. If you are taking your child, parent or other loved one to a doctor/hospital, do the same for them.

        SPEAK UP!

        If you think they are giving you the wrong drug/too much/not enough, don’t just sit there.

        Most malpractice cases involve stupid mistakes.

        • mothy67 says:

          I agree the onus is on the patient but for me at least instinct says trust the doctor. Before this I took it all on blind faith. I really do not get sick never have. Never had a flu shot or the flu. Colds are a one day thing for me. Fall I get abysmal bronchitis for a month because of rotting leaves. So when I had to go to the ER I thought this has to be serious and I accepted what they said. I do not mean to diminish the health profession I just felt some of its flaws and they were less than pleasant. I know so much more now than I did a year ago. How do you tell someone they will be dead in 2 months without a biopsy? We’re it not for the fact that I only slightly despise my then 6 year old I’d have. given up. Not an option when you care about someone else and I had worked way to hard with her to leave her with that kind of lesson.

  25. helenk3 says:

    if i knew how to change my avitar I would have this

  26. wmcb says:

    So in its Olympic coverage, NBC just passed over the decades of Soviet communist brutality as a “pivotal experiment.”

  27. wmcb says:

  28. leslie says:

    Is anyone watching the opening of the Olympics? I am utterly amazed.

    • wmcb says:

      I’m watching and tweeting.

      • SHV says:

        I waiting for all of the vile progs to start bitching about the lack of “diversity” of the US team.

        • wmcb says:

          The Winter Olympics is largely white. Always has been. Because Nordic sports. Just like the NBA is mostly black. And Jews are over-represented in finance. Because peoples/cultures/races/countries have sports and activities and things that appeal to them, or have historically been their “niche” for various reasons ranging from diaspora, to equipment needed, to geography. Why it is either a huge taboo to notice this, or a horrible sinister problem that must be “fixed” at all costs, I have no idea. Leave people the fuck alone if they are not actively hurting anyone. Lefties are fucking nags.

    • leslie says:

      Despite the historical omissions, the presentation is stunning.

  29. The Klown says:
    • 49erDweet says:

      You cannot fix “stupid”. And it’s not genetic. It’s basic human “greed”. They (the black power block in Portland) want folks they can control. Well payed grocery employees of an evil California corporation, even if they were all black, would not be easily controlled.
      It’s currently undeveloped land. If it were up to me it would stay undeveloped for the next century, or until the surrounding community were all Hispanic or Asian or whatever

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