Justified Open Thread

Ava Crowder has killed two men - so far.

Ava Crowder has killed two men – so far.

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I can’t watch Raylan and the gang until 10 pm Klown time.

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43 Responses to Justified Open Thread

  1. The Klown says:

    I disagree that bringing up Monica is “sexist and misogynist” but other than that Mika nails it:

    If Bill Clinton could run again he would easily beat any Republican out there.

  2. DeniseVB says:

    No Spoilers here, I have my mental bubblegum Big Bang Tues Night binge on….but here’s an interesting link, how some gazillonaires got their start, enjoy 😀 And Dream ❤


    • elliesmom says:

      Dean Kamen, the guy who invented the Segway and a wheelchair that can climb stairs, started in his dad’s garage with a new design for an IV pump. He was my lab partner in college, but dropped out when his business took off, and he no longer had time for school.

    • The Klown says:

      I had a client who started a business in his garage. He was making lots of money until the Meth Task force shut him down.

      Now he’s making license plates.

  3. helenk3 says:

    for some reason I do not show Justifed showing on FX tonight. it shows planet of the apes movie as being shown at the normal time for justified

  4. The Klown says:
  5. The Klown says:

    My (old) uncle sent me this:

    One evening a grandson was talking to his grandmother About current events. The grandson asked his grandmother what she thought
    About the shootings at schools, the computer age, and
    Just things in general.

    The Grandmother replied, “Well, let me think a minute,
    I was born before:

    ‘ television
    ‘ penicillin
    ‘ polio shots
    ‘ frozen TV dinners
    ‘ Xerox
    ‘ contact lenses
    ‘ Frisbees and
    ‘ the pill

    There were no:

    ‘ credit cards
    ‘ laser beams or
    ‘ ball-point pens

    Man had not yet invented:

    ‘ pantyhose
    ‘ air conditioners
    ‘ dishwashers
    ‘ clothes dryers
    ‘ and the clothes were hung out to dry in the fresh air and
    ‘ man hadn’t yet walked on the moon

    Your Grandfather and I got married first, and then lived together.
    Every family had a father and a mother.

    Until I was 25, I called every man older than me, “Sir.”

    And after I turned 25, I still called policemen and every man With a title, “Sir.”

    We were before gay-rights, computer-dating, dual careers, daycare centers, and group therapy.

    Our lives were governed by the Ten Commandments, good judgment, and common sense.

    We were taught to know the difference between right and
    Wrong and to stand up and take responsibility for our actions.

    Serving your country was a privilege; living in this country was A bigger privilege.

    We thought fast food was what people ate during Lent.

    Having a meaningful relationship meant getting along with
    Your cousins.

    Draft dodgers were those who closed front doors as the
    Evening breeze started.

    Time-sharing meant time the family spent together in the
    Evenings and weekends — not purchasing condominiums.

    We never heard of FM radios, tape decks, CD’s, electric typewriters, yogurt, or guys wearing earrings.

    We listened to Big Bands, Jack Benny, and the President’s speeches on our radios.

    If you saw anything with ‘Made in Japan ‘ on it, it was junk.

    The term ‘making out’ referred to how you did on your school exam.

    Pizza Hut, McDonald’s, and instant coffee were unheard of.
    We had 5 &10-cent (5 and dime) stores where you could actually buy things for 5 and 10 cents.

    Ice-cream cones, phone calls, rides on a streetcar, and a Pepsi were all a nickel.

    And if you didn’t want to splurge, you could spend your nickel on enough stamps to mail 1 letter and 2 postcards.

    You could buy a new Ford Coupe for $600, but who could
    Afford one? Too bad, because gas was 11 cents a gallon.

    In my day:

    ‘ “grass” was mowed,
    ‘ “coke” was a cold drink,
    ‘ “pot” was something your mother cooked in and
    ‘ “rock music” was your grandmother’s lullaby.
    ‘ “Aids” were helpers in the Principal’s office,
    ‘ “chip” meant a piece of wood,
    ‘ “hardware” was found in a hardware store and.
    ‘ “software” wasn’t even a word.

    We were the last generation to actually believe that a lady needed a husband to have a baby.
    We volunteered to protect our precious country.
    No wonder people call us “old and confused” and say there is a generation gap.

    How old do you think I am?

    Read on to see — pretty scary if you think about it and pretty sad at the same time.

    Are you ready?????

    This woman would be only 61 years old.
    She would have been born in late 1952.


    • helenk3 says:

      I am watching a show about the building of the Original Penn Station in NYC. the building of the tunnels and the underground tracks and the awesome station it self.
      today we have the technology but lack the vision and dream to create such splendor

      • helenk3 says:

        I was not lucky enough to work in the Original Penn Station. I worked in the station that came after. It is a thriving awesome place where millions of people travel every year to see a city that gave many people great dreams and sometimes broken hearts

    • Constance says:

      Those were the days!

    • 49erDweet says:

      First gas I bought was 27.9¢ a gallon. 1946. Got six bits worth. Lasted almost a month. ‘Course that was up in the mountains of Idyllwild, CA. City gas was 19.9¢.

    • Propertius says:

      Well, it makes me think that the person who wrote that doesn’t know when air conditioning was invented. 😉 Willis Carrier invented the air conditioner in 1902, and the first home air conditioner was sold in 1914. Window-mounted room air conditioners went on sale in 1931.

      Penicillin was discovered in 1928. Testing began in 1930, but it was extremely difficult to produce and very expensive. Industrial production was developed during WW II, and the drug saw limited use to prevent infection in severely wounded soldiers. By 1952, it was fairly commonplace and finally available in pill form.

      Coca-cola, of course, originally contained cocaine and the term “coke” was used to refer to the drug in the 1920s (a related term, “cokey” was used to refer to someone addicted to cocaine and appears in one of the verses of the Cab Calloway song “Minnie the Moocher”).

      The electric home dishwasher was introduced in 1924 (a hand-cranked version was patented in 1850).

      The term “making out” was first used in print in 1949.

      Instant coffee was patented in 1890, but the first successful variant went on sale in 1906.

      FM broadcasts in the US date from 1936, the first commercial station started broadcasting in 1941, but FM didn’t really start to catch on until the FCC reserved a frequency band for them in 1945.

      The first home electric clothes dryer went on sale in 1928.

      The electric typewriter was introduced in 1902.

      The term “draft dodger” dates from the Civil War.

      In 1952, the average price of a gallon of gas was 20 cents.

      The first ballpoint pen patent dates from 1888, but the first commercially successful ballpoint (the Biro Bic) dates from 1938. After the Biro brothers fled to Britain to escape the Nazis, Bics became standard issue to RAF pilots during WWII, since they both wrote reliably and did not leak at altitude.

      While the term “rock and roll” had not yet been shortened to “rock”, it was early 20th Century slang for sexual intercourse and its first use in a song title dates to 1932. Its first use in print to refer to a style of music dates from a 1942 Billboard Magazine article.

      A 1952 Ford Mainline “Business Coupe” cost $1389. That’s the cheapest coupe on the 1952 Ford price list.

      And, to celebrate today’s opening of the first recreational marijuana store here in Berkeley by the Rockies, the first use in print of the word “pot” to refer to marijuana is from 1938 (although the term was apparently in common use in the 1920s). I’m pretty sure “grass” dates from around the same time.

      I’ve seen this internet chain letter, in one form or another, since the early 1980s. Back then, most of the statements would have been true for a 61 year-old. In 2014, not so much.

  6. The Klown says:
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  8. wmcb says:

    Take this with a grain of salt, because I think this guy is an anarcho-feudalist or some such, but this is one of the best pieces laying out the Ukrainian conflict I’ve read. The most interesting part to me was the election map. The Ukraine truly is two countries, with two languages. And to make that natural divide even worse, the USA/EU and Russia are having them a big ole tug-o-war over it.


    • aramaxima says:

      I am honored by your words. Though I am not, in fact, an anarcho-feudalist. I currently advocate for the earthly return of the ancient Roman empire — which, I swear I will explain one of these days on my blog. Cheers!

      • wmcb says:

        Ok, thanks. Good analysis in any case. I tend to engage with all sorts of political theorists, even fringe-ish ones, but I sometimes try to warn my friends here that “this may not be the kind of POV you’re used to….” But then, they put up with my far-fetched musings of “what if” all the damn time. We live in a strange, strange age.

      • Propertius says:

        I personally thing the EU should have adopted Latin as its official language. After ll, if the Israelis can revive a dead language and drag it, kicking and screaming, into the modern era, why can’t the Europeans?

  9. wmcb says:

    It’s interesting the stuff you see when you wander all over Twitter. That guy above was talking about the Holy Roman Empire, and I *think* he’s Eastern European. I’ve seen several Eastern Europeans on Twitter talking about the Ukraine stuff, and how all the boundaries that got drawn during WWI and WWII suck. Because previous boundaries fell on natural ethnic/topographic lines, and now it’s all screwed. Same in middle east. The whole Bosnia clusterfuck is another example. (And no, that one is STILL not solved.) While I don’t agree with all their ideas for changing stuff (or how to go about it), I do see the point of how screwing around with naturally-developed cultures and nations has caused some huge-ass problems.

    I’m sure I’m not as educated on European or Eastern history as I could be. But I do know enough to know it’s a whole ‘nother ballgame over there.

    • The Klown says:

      Every wide spot on the road in Europe has 2000+ years of history to go with it. It’s hard enough learning our own history.

      If you don’t know the history of a place, you’re not gonna have any clue about its present day events.

      • The Klown says:

        A lot of Americans treat history like it is just trivia. There are places in this world where people treat history like it is more important than the present.

        • wmcb says:

          Yeppers. To not view Europe through the lens of history, to assume that its passions (and solutions) would necessarily be the same as for a 200-year-old propositional nation like us, is the rankest hubris.

          I actually think Europe, if the current progressive blue model fails, as I think it eventually will worldwide, is in a better spot to move forward. They have other traditions to fall back upon. For us, if the Republic isn’t doable – well, then we’re screwed. That’s our only reason for even being.

          Me, I think Republic is still doable here, I just have my doubts recently that it’s scalable to the size we are now. And its current manisfestation mixes BADLY with identity politics. Horrible combo, identity politcs and democracy. Toxic. In any case, such a SHIT TON of unnecessary baggage is going to have to be chopped off of it, it’s going to be hairy for awhile. We’re at a turning point where we either fix this shit good, or give up on the premise entirely, as unworkable over the long haul. And I really reeeaaally don’t want it to be the latter. But I’m the coldest-eyed practical realist you ever will meet, so I dunno.

        • Propertius says:

          Dr. Mrs. Propertius’s PhD is in International Relations. She informs me that she was not required to take a single history course to get this degree.

          I think this explains an awful lot.

          • wmcb says:

            That is simply mind-boggling.

          • The Klown says:

            I remember when it was revealed that prior to invading Iraq George Bush didn’t know the difference between Sunnis and Shiites or why it mattered.

          • Lulu says:

            She was robbed. I mean that. She was screwed by whatever uni she went to for a undergraduate and graduate degree. That is shameful. I just looked up the IR degree at at private school near where I live and it is full of required history and language courses.

  10. threewickets says:

    Way it’s looking now, the Senate midterm likely flips or toss-ups all seem to be for Dem incumbent seats: AL, AK, NC, SD, MT, WV, LA, IA, MI. Democrats are going to become the party of coastal creative-class neoliberals without a majority. WTF…DNC.

  11. foxyladi14 says:

    It will be interesting for sure. 🙂

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