Happy St. Paddy’s Day from Salon!


From How did Irish-Americans get so disgusting? by Andrew O’Hehir at Salon:

As the title of Noel Ignatiev’s important if overly harsh academic study “How the Irish Became White” makes clear, Irish immigrants first arrived in America as despised outsiders, who were white in terms of complexion but not culture. In my colleague Joan Walsh’s “What’s the Matter with White People?”, she discusses Bacon’s Rebellion of 1676, a little-noticed event in which black and Irish indentured servants rose up against British colonial rule. (This led to the creation of the slave codes, which made African-Americans slaves for life, and the conferring of limited white privilege on the Irish.) As late as the 19th century, Anglo elites in New York perceived the drunken and disorderly Irish newcomers as an unhealthful influence on the city’s industrious and long-settled black population.

But Irish-Americans rapidly absorbed the lesson that the way to succeed in their new country was to reject the politics of class and shared economic interests and embrace the politics of race. One disgraceful result was the New York draft riots of 1863, the low point of Irish-black relations in American history, when Irish immigrants by the thousands turned on their black neighbors in a thinly disguised race riot. Irish-Americans were under no delusions that the ruling class of Anglo Protestants liked or trusted them, and anti-Irish and/or anti-Catholic bigotry endured in diluted form well into the 20th century. But by allying themselves with a system of white supremacy, the Irish in America were granted a share of power and privilege — most notably in urban machine politics, and the police and fire departments of every major city.

See, the Irish used to be like black people, and that was cool, but then they became like other white people, and they weren’t cool anymore.

But wait! There’s more!

Am I proud of my Irish heritage? Sure I am, up to a point: We’re all born with something, and I was born with a name no one can spell or pronounce, which is specific to a few townlands in County Clare. I’ve actually made it more Yank-friendly by inserting the apostrophe; my dad insisted upon “O Hehir,” and in retrospect I’m surprised he didn’t go all the way to Ó hEithir or Ó hAíchir. (As I have told strangers roughly twice a day for the last several decades, you say it “just like the airport.”) I inherited some of my Irish-raised dad’s snobbery about the hopelessly Americanized character of St. Patrick’s Day, which a serious alcoholic like him could only view as amateur hour. I don’t miss Irish-America’s dishonest relationship to Irish violence (although the worst offenders in that department were almost always the racist and homophobic old guard). But I’d put up with many choruses of “Danny Boy,” and many rounds of green-label Budweiser, to get back that feeling we briefly had of being an immigrant group that was trying to confront its history, and to see the prison of whiteness for what it really is.

I’m not certified to shrink heads but I’ve spent enough time in mental institutions to say with confidence that this guy has some “issues” he needs to work out.

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104 Responses to Happy St. Paddy’s Day from Salon!

  1. Jadzia says:

    I would like to set my Dublin-born, five-foot-nothing, 95-pounds-soaking-wet, ride-or-die sister-in-law on this guy. She would kick his ass from America to Ireland and back again.

  2. mothy67 says:

    What a load of tosh. Article is actually funny on a second read. Sure he thinks he is so clever. The way he uses specific dates is a tell. Piece is not a history assignment but an article in a mag. Good grief Saddled with the name Timothy I wonder how am I to explain this article to Ali, my betrothed?

    • leslie says:

      Really? You actually sat thru this twice??? More power to ya. And while you’re about it, have another stout.

  3. The Klown says:
    • mothy67 says:

      Next time there is a retrospect at the Whitney or other New York museum read the articles in the mags about it and then sit and listen to the pretenders regurgitate what they read. It is very funny..
      My god Final Destination 2 is bad.

  4. Lulu says:

    Please remember anything that you read in Salon they probably paid $69.43 to the author. As the underground tweeter says about HuffnPuff, Salon, etc the management is brokeass and is paying the least possible for stuff someone someone probably wrote originally in high school or Creative Writing Intro. Normal people throw this early bleating away or keep to laugh at themselves when they grow up. Salon has gone to click-bait as a business model. And if this ninny is so down with the struggle of blacks why is he writing for a white rag that is a propaganda arm of Obama’s corporate cronies? Why is he still writing about Daddy?

    • mothy67 says:

      The daddy thing annoyed me. It is such a cheap shot. Guy can’t defend himself and if he did over imbibe maybe it was because he came home took a look at his damp dish towel of a son and thought Christ make it a double.

      • WMCB says:

        The dad thing bugged me too. I mean really, you have to paint your dead father as a racist drunk, when fact is he was likely just an average guy of his time. Dick.

        Have you ever noticed how many of these prog “elite” writers always spew shit about their parents? I mean, are there ANY of them who ever wax nostalgic about their happy families? I say to them what I say to Obama: Sorry you have daddy and mommy issues, but work those out on your own damn dime, not via the rest of us. Leave the nation out of it, fookers.

        • mothy67 says:

          I do not get hurting your parents and to do it on a national platform? My mother and father are flawed but even when I was 16 plugging an alarm clock into the socket above the bath tub I was killing myself so as to not hurt them. Cord kept falling out. I was so bad at suicide. No matter what I did it didn’t take. I like the It gets Better Campaign cause it speaks to isolated desperate kids but most of the other gay voices well I’ll just say that if my fist made the acquaintance of their jaw I would not feel sad.

        • Somebody says:

          Yep maligning parents is a prog thing. I will never forgive my sisters for the opening of my father’s funeral, one sister in particular. Every epithet and slur one could imagine projected on an elderly white man. I’ll never forgive the hospice chaplain for playing along. Shock doesn’t begin to decribe the reaction across the chapel. I stood and started for the aisle because I refused to listen to such bullshit. My brother grabbed me and begged me to stay. It did get better from that point, but like I said I’ll never forgive them for what they did…..I’m pissed all over again now!

          Note to each and every one of you, birth order of your children shouldn’t be your primary consideration for deciding who will make your final arrangements. The eldest are not always the wisest!

          • mothy67 says:

            I abhor the pity me party. Guess what you little fuck you survived maybe you went through shit I cannot comprehend but get off the pity potty and get to living
            My girlfriend

    • leslie says:

      $69.43 was far too much for this tosh.

  5. threewickets says:

    Obamacrats are panicking about the midterns. The raciiist meme has been picking up again in the past couple of weeks. And no one is better at that than the well tended self-righteous hypocrites at Salon in San Francisco. But Bronco is not running for office anymore. Think the raciiist charge has just become reflexive for OFA progs. It’s really all they know how to do well.

  6. driguana says:

    Top of the Mornin’ and Happy St. Paddy’s Day to ya all!!! Ah, he’s at it again!!!

  7. driguana says:

    From the Scottish perspective….

  8. Well, don’t look now, but top stories over at Memeorandum right now suggest that the Irish are complete homophobes in addition to racist white trash.

    The left’s strategy is so elementary anymore. They just look at the calendar and plan political curriculum around it.

    • Lulu says:

      First it was misogyny. Then it was regional-ism. Then age-ism. Followed by class-ism. I forgot homophobe-ism who are usually lumped in with regional-ism directed at hicks and the dreaded rural dwellers. NOW it is Irish-ism, or maybe Gaelic-ism or Celt-ism or Roman Catholic-ism (I suspect an anti-ginger hatred). Who exactly is left that they don’t hate besides blacks and Ivy League-rs. Oh I left out fat people and children who they hate too.

    • DeniseVB says:

      I bet I know what that’s about, here’s something I stole off Todd Starnes FB page…..

      Gay rights groups have their blarney stones in a bunch after they were banned from marching in St. Patrick’s Day parades with signs and banners.

      Parade organizers in New York City and Boston says gays are welcome – so long as they leave their rainbow flags at home.

      In other words – it’s about Irish Pride – not Gay Pride.

      New York City’s mayor decided to boycott the parade and companies like Sam Adams and Guinness pulled their sponsorships.

      In fairness to the LGBT community – this could be a simple case of a word getting lost in translation.

      A gaelic celebration may not mean what they think it means.

    • elliesmom says:

      We go through this every year in Boston over the Saint Patrick’s Day parade. Somehow the gay community has decided it’s their holiday, and they should get to ride and run through the streets scantily clad (although why they want to take their clothes off in a New England March climate is beyond me). When they’re allowed to do it, families with little kids stay home from the parade. Not because they’re homophobic. We’ve descended from the Puritans, and one does not disrobe in public in front of little kids no matter what your sexual orientation is. So some years the committee is made up of people who don’t want to say “no” to the gay folks and we have a low turnout at the parade. And other years the committee does say gay folks can be in the parade – as part of the Irish groups that march with their clothes on. The media blitz about homophobic Bostonians is like watching bad reruns on TV. I’ve always wondered why the gay community didn’t choose the saints’ festival days in the Italian North End in September. Much better weather to take your clothes off in. But then there are those violin cases lots of folks carry.

      • Lulu says:

        That is what I thought it was about but the press will not cover it. So they want a gay pride San Francisco-style parade that is rated R that children cannot attend? How selfish of them and typical “it’s all about me!”. I don’t think ass-less chaps with a popehat would go over in a Boston St Patrick’s parade.

      • DeniseVB says:

        Celebrating one’s heritage is big in NYC. I don’t remember hearing problems with the Columbus Day parade (Italians) or the Puerto Rican/Hispanic Day celebrations?

        • elliesmom says:

          As American cities go, Boston is pretty small. If it didn’t have a deep water port, it would probably be even smaller. I’m sure the percentage of LGBT folks in Boston is about average for a city. But unlike cities like Chicago, there is no “Boys Town”. There are gay and Lesbian hangouts, but no part of the city “belongs” to them. They live all across the city in neighborhoods that have been gentrified (or not), and there’s no address in Boston that would mean the odds are you’re probably gay. I’m not sure they could muster enough support to have much of a parade of their own. Not because people are homophobic. There just aren’t enough people interested to put on or go see a parade of any great size. Inserting themselves into someone else’s celebration is their best chance to get noticed. The two communities in Boston that go “all out” for celebrating their heritage are the Irish and the Italians. The Italians keep their celebrations centered in the North End. While the rest of us get invited in to join the celebration, they keep a tighter control on what happens and doesn’t happen.

    • votermom says:

      To misquote the a-hole, saying:
      If everyone you meet is a racist, it’s probably you that’s the real racist.

  9. DeniseVB says:

    Methinks Salon Boy needs to watch Gangs of New York and get over his Daddy issues 😉

  10. jeffhas says:

    If he hated his name so much, he coulda just completed his subtle change to something that more accurately describes what he represents… like Andrew D’Bag. I don’t think he’d have to explain how to pronounce that to anyone.

  11. swanspirit says:

    Happy St Patrick’s Day ! I am not Irish , but my children are 😉

  12. elliesmom says:

    Elliesdad’s family is entirely of German heritage as is my dad’s. We poop sauerkraut around here, but we’re headed off for corned beef and cabbage at the local Irish pub for lunch. It’s a great holiday, and we’re glad they let us in.

  13. votermom says:

    Check out his twitter feed – some awesome graphics

    • Lulu says:

      I just looked at his website. The Vile Progs are going to have a hissy. Will it become cool to be a non-lefty? The non-left is already funnier than the progs. I really like the Drone posters. http://unsavoryagents.com/

    • DeniseVB says:

      More stuff on their FB page ….. I may be “sharing” some with the TCH page 😀


    • DeniseVB says:

      LOL, I read this on their FB page and wondered if Spoony owns the building ?


      • Lulu says:

        This guy has a future. The thin veneer of socially enforced liberalism or progressivism is breaking down. The push back is picking up as Obama, Dems and the Dem corporate media loose their stranglehold of the general culture.

        • DeniseVB says:

          Well, if I remember my libby days, it was all about hanging with the “cool kids”. If Sabo makes it cool to be conservative-ish, many of the snowflakes will leave the Obama plantation 😀 But he seems to be more of a “loyal opposition” type than a hard core righty.

  14. votermom says:

  15. votermom says:

    • votermom says:

      Check out the ppl laughing at her. (I’m guessing they are Lavrov’s posse)

      Btw, is it just me or does Samantha Power look more and more like a well-dressed crackhead?

      • Lulu says:

        My guess is that she thought the UN was going to be like faking it at the Harvard faculty lounge, the WH, or Charley Chaplin Film Festivals in Dublin. She forgot about the Russians.

      • jeffhas says:

        Not that well dressed… the least she could do is get a jacket that fit to cover the mess.

      • 49erDweet says:

        “well dressed crackhead”
        Her choice of wardrobe is maybe appropriate for the corporate world, but not the political. She should be in an all dark outfit and her hair should not be screaming, “LOOK AT ME, I’M BEAUTIFUL AND IMPORTANT!”. She looks shallow and needy. The only reason they are listening to her, or allowed her to approach them, is bc she’s not representing Nowherestan.

  16. mothy67 says:

    I fucking love my mom and dad. Lunatics. They got up this morning and for some reason bought an RV on craigslist. My dad said they are going to drive to Ireland today. Know him too well to respond. He will say that all day til someone says you can’t drive to Ireland. Then he will explain how you can with ferries and a year of your life. My mother went off with apologies about how she was spending my inheritance and it wasn’t fair. No stopping her when she goes marty. So I say mom I do not want your money and she says I will go back to work part time. Told her not to worry because I was going to win 400 million with the mega thing. She said oh will you buy your father and I a nice camper. I said no and told her under tax laws I could only give them around 13k each per year. She went all kinds of banana split telling me I was selfish and I needed to take care of my brothers. Dad is in the corner laughing his ass off.

  17. votermom says:

  18. mothy67 says:

    Oh and just so you know back when I was a gay(yesterday) people like Andrew Sullivan never spoke for me. Every relationship takes work. I find the author of this piece a disgrace. Bashing your own father. Not acceptable. I get that there are extremes when it is fitting but fail to see the case here.

  19. DeniseVB says:

    Looks like the beer war in NYC had some major blowback. Guiness may have pulled their financial support of the parade, but the bars are well stocked. This is the first article I’ve seen mentioning GLAAD.


  20. DeniseVB says:

    How are my California friends doing ? Shake, Rattle and Roll ! I miss these fun times 😉

  21. DeniseVB says:

    Please tell me there are Democrats out there who would challenge the “inevitable” Hillary. This is a good article on why they should. I really think it would be healthy for the party if they did.


  22. votermom says:

  23. DandyTIger says:

    I’m not certified to shrink heads but I’ve spent enough time in mental institutions to say with confidence that this guy has some “issues” he needs to work out.

    In professional psychiatric terms, he’s what’s called “fucking nuts”.

  24. helenk3 says:

    I guess if you do not order and drink a “black and tan” on St Patrick’s day you are racist.

    Liberals seem to never make anything better. The are a joyless as the muslims, always mad about something.

    The day is about being Irish and we include those who wish they were. It is not about sex straight or gay. Most people live a life that is not always about sex, that is a part of life, not a whole life. If that is someone’s whole life they are missing out on a lot and I guess should be pitied, but damn they are annoying.

    For those who decide that they should boycott St Patrick’s Day, that is on them and they are missing a good time with music and friends and a lot of fun, go sulk in the corner

  25. WMCB says:

    I freaking love author Sarah Hoyt. (And, as an aside, I really wish she’d write more books in her Darkship Thieves series, because it’s damn good.) She did a post on the whole gender studies “trigger warning” weirdness, and it’s dead on as usual.

    One thing to remember about her as you read it: she grew up in a Portugal being impoverished by communists, with lots of civil unrest. She knows from real triggers and PTSD. The intro:

    *Trigger warning: this post contains special snow flake melting triggers, you’re not the center of the universe triggers and meltdown triggers for unspanked babies over the age of twenty – you’ve been warned.*


    • WMCB says:

      Love this bit:

      And here’s the thing, Cinderella, if you don’t change your ways, you’re giving Victorian maidens a bad name. I don’t care how much you roar in your “safe” places that you’re an all conquering warrior queen. The first time you faint at a harsh word, you’re validating all the stereotypes people like me don’t want to have brought back.

      • helenk3 says:

        I get annoyed at so many of the so called feminists of today. Many women spent a lot of years fighting to get respect in the workplace and we accomplished a lot and did get respect only to have it torn down by today’s snowflakes

    • WMCB says:

      The best is at the end:

      But if you keep up with the helpless-flower act, you’re going to end up giving people the impression that ALL OF US need to be protected. Slut shaming? Why, darling, you might not end up locked in the house, but the generation after you will. It’s so easy. “I don’t let my daughter go to school. She’d faint if someone made a joke about her body.”

      Next thing you know, we’re all in burkas and being kept from that terrible rough and tumble world. Maybe that’s what you want for the generations of women after us. It’s not what I want for my potential granddaughters or great granddaughters.

      So, princess, get off your tuffet and stop making like you’re a melting special snow flake. You aren’t. And before you destroy what much better women than you have worked for, I’ll see you in hell.*

      *and if you thought the last was threat and you wanted to faint or run away, then yes, this post is all about you.

    • WMCB says:

      And someone in the comments nailed it. THIS is why this whole thing is so insidious, dangerous, and ought to be fought. Not because it’s a good thing to hurt people’s feelings. But because in acquiescing to this crap, you hand people an un-falsifiable weapon to be used as they please:

      Because freedom of speech is such a self-evident benefit to everyone, it is necessary to create a special class of victims who are so delicate that being exposed to any uncensored words may damage them.

      This moves the argument away from the right of people to speak and write as they choose and instead makes the speaker guilty of potentially traumatizing a hypothetical audience. Since the claim that somebody might feel bad if she or he reads a particular statement is inherently unfalsifiable, this gives the censors an unlimited fiat.

  26. helenk3 says:


    guess other people are coming to the same conclusion that I have

    the jihad of liveralism

  27. helenk3 says:

    off topic
    this really got my Irish up


    these two useless loads are not my parents

    • helenk3 says:

      love it. you know I have to steal it

    • WMCB says:

      There’s a societal (not military) revolution coming. Because the progs are more and more being seen as the lockstep controlling entity they are. And once the worm turns, it turns faster and faster. Who is cutting edge, transgressive, and rebellious these days? Hint: it isn’t the prog ass-kissers of Big Daddy Govt.

      Who is transgressive? Because that which is transgressive is always sexier and cooler than The Man. The progs still try desperately to paint themselves as the rebellious underdogs fighting the Power, but it’s more and more laughable every day.

    • WMCB says:

      Love the video, BTW!

  28. The Klown says:

    I think I’ll change my Twitter handle to “Prisoner of Whiteness”

  29. votermom says:

  30. WMCB says:

    This goes well with my comment above about who is transgressive:

    “We’re the bad news
    We’re the young guns
    We’re the ones that they told you to run from
    Yeah, the player’s gonna play, and a haters gonna hate
    And a regulators born to regulate
    When it hits the fan, and it all goes down
    And the gloves come off
    You’re gonna find out just

    Who we are ”

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