7.1 Million Don’t Mean Shit

Obamacare


In case you missed it, yesterday afternoon Barack Obama was strutting around the Rose Garden like a rooster, taking a victory lap on Obamacare. According to him, the magical goal of 7.1 million enrollments had been met after a last-minute surge of online applications. It was, appropriately enough, April Fool’s Day.

Ben Domenech at The Federalist:

How This One Magic Number Saved Obamacare

Have you heard? Obamacare survived! It got to that magic number it was looking for to make everything right!

Or rather, it got to half the number the Congressional Budget Office predicted it would get to after the Supreme Court ruling.

Either way, it’s totally okay now and is absolutely going to survive and be the law of the land forever and ever despite anything those nasty opponents of the law tell you.

[…]

All the 7 million number the White House will be touting for months to come really achieves is an end to the “website is broken” storyline which began unexpectedly last fall. Opponents of the law, who had expected all the other disruptions that Obamacare spawned (the substance story of people losing their plans, losing access to their doctors, the broad disruption to employers and employees), were given an additional process story in the broken exchange and bungled launch and collapsing state exchanges. That latter storyline overwhelmed people in both parties – it was such a public faceplant that it made things seem even worse. But it was also a story that was destined to end eventually – indeed, it’s surprising it lasted for a full six months! – and it has largely ended due to all the exemptions, waivers, loopholes, and extensions the Obama Administration has slapped all over this launch process, like using bumper stickers to hold a jalopy together.

This is why talk of the 7 million figure as salvation from supporters of the law is completely bonkers: all you did was meet your lowered policy expectations. In 2014, it is clear that Republicans intend to run against Obamacare: it is a hot button issue for their base, it is perfectly designed to turn their voters out in a base election, and they don’t even need to coalesce around a specific legislative alternative in order to get those votes (rather, they can continue to let a dozen different options sprout here and there). If the odds play out as they currently appear, this positioning will allow them to take the U.S. Senate.


Even if the Obama administration is telling the truth (doubtful) about the number of enrollments, Obamacare itself is still a clusterfuck. I wonder how many of those alleged 7.1 million people who supposedly enrolled in Obamacare have paid even one premium? How many will still be enrolled six months from now? How many of them are pleased with Obamacare and how many only signed up because it’s the law??

How many of those 7.1 million were part of the 6 million who had their old health insurance plans canceled? There were supposed to be 40 million people who had no health insurance. Even if all the 7.1 million who supposedly signed up for Obamacare were previously uninsured, there is still a long way to go.

And that is just enrollments. What about the increased costs and deductibles? What about the effect on doctors and hospitals? What about the effects of the now-delayed employer mandate?

This trainwreck is a long way from over, and there are still more trains barreling down the track.



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133 Responses to 7.1 Million Don’t Mean Shit

  1. bluestate says:

    well this is the second biggest fairytale i ever heard. i think they’re counting everybody who visited the site now. the only things this admin does well is cook books and cover asses.

  2. 1539days says:

    I just wrote up my thoughts on this thing. Besides the 7.1 million lie, more people are without insurance than under Bush because fewer people have jobs. Then there’s the fact that too many of those people are on Medicaid, something they could have signed up for before Obamacare. If the Democrats keep the Senate in 2015, it gets worse. Premiums go up even more and people have to start paying their Obama tax for not signing up this year.

    http://daysofchange.wordpress.com/2014/04/02/obamacaid/

    • Lulu says:

      People really don’t understand Medicaid. Your assets are forfeit when you die if it is used for your care. It is supposed to be a government funded insurer of last resort and the tax payer is to be paid back if your estate owns anything irregardless of your survivors such as a widow/widower or minor children. They very conveniently leave this information out when touting Obamacare and the joys of Medicaid. And bankruptcy does not discharge your debts to Medicaid. States frequently lie about how frequently and virulently they go after Medicaid debts. People are being forced into Medicaid without being informed of what it is. And idiots in the media cannot differentiate between Medicare and Medicaid most of the time thus confusing it even further.

      • elliesmom says:

        I was unaware of this “feature” of Medicaid until my husband and his brother received letters from the state of Pennsylvania because they were the beneficiaries of their great aunt’s estate. They told them they weren’t getting anything because her estate had been confiscated to cover her Medicaid bills. Now it wasn’t a lot of money, and they were totally unaware they were supposed to inherit, so they weren’t disappointed. But at first glance it looked like the state was sending them a bill for the rest of the Medicaid benefits she used. My BIL called in a panic because he thought PA was trying to get him to pay them thousands of dollars.

  3. angienc says:

    6 million people lost their insurance because of Obamacare — peeshaw the MSM & Dems cry — 6 million is a tiny fraction of the American public such that the number is insignificant.

    7.1 million people enrolled in Obamacare — why that’s HUGE screams the MSM/Dems. Not statistically insignificant number vis-a-vis the American public at all — no siree bob!

    The stupid — it burns.

    Additionally, I’ve read that Obama is counting (1) people who enrolled in Medicaire who would have enrolled anyway *with or without* Obamacare yet crediting it to Obamacare; (2) All those “kids” over 18 but under 26 who can now stay on their parents plan, which grant it, is because of Obamacare, but it isn’t really *enrolling* in Obamacare in a way that is going to effect the demographics to pay for this thing in the way it needs to; and (3) of those who actually didn’t have insurance before (as opposed to the ones who did but lost it & were forced to sign up via Obamacare) about 20% haven’t paid their premiums.

    So, you know — all in all, there’s about the same number of people without insurance as with as BEFORE Obamacare. And that’s forgotten all the KNOWING lies (“If you like your plan you can keep your plan, period. If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. Period.” “The average family will save $2500 a year in premiums.” and the “There were always going to be winners and losers with Obamacare” line everyone is touting now).

    This b.s. 7.1 million number is nothing more than COVER for the stealing of elections they are gearing up to do in 2014, just as they did in 2012. Point. Blank.Period (but in 2012 they used fake polls by PPP as their cover).

  4. DeniseVB says:

    Wait, there’s more ….. what those 7 million COST us to sign up ….

    http://www.ijreview.com/2014/04/125914-cost-taxpayers-person-signed-obamacare-just-facedeskworthy-joke/

    Why are they doing this to us ?

  5. DeniseVB says:

    Arrogant BasTARDS …..

  6. The Klown says:
  7. DandyTIger says:

    The Obot friends are cheering and celebrating. So 6+ million kicked out of insurance, 7+ million “signed up”. I’d guess that even with some fakery now, sometime during the year there will be a net gain. But a small one. So after trillions of dollars, it will be a wash in the number of insured. Let’s party! And whatever you do, don’t mention the medicaid quality of these new plans, loss of doctors/hospitals, or what the new rules are doing to the profession.

    • Somebody says:

      That’s how I see it a wash or a small net gain due most likely to expanded Medicaid rolls. I don’t know if they’re cooking the books, there may well be 7.1 million but that isn’t enough especially when you consider the 6.3 million that lost their policies. I’ll be charitable and give them credit for the difference……800,000 give or take a few.

      We spent how much for that? We turned our entire health care system upside down for this? It appears we’re going to end up with about the same percentage of Americans uninsured, maybe more since premiums have gone up so much.

      I listened to a little bit of teh wons crowing yesterday. He claimed families are more secure, blah, blah. Families hit with a catastrophic illness will no longer be forced to file bankruptcy……..really? Fuck you, you and your dem buddies took that option away, so no they won’t be filing bankruptcy because they can’t. Families are not more secure they have higher premiums and deductibles and none of the issues that lead to bankruptcy were addressed in your piece of shit legislation.

      • Mary says:

        They’re actually more likely to need to file bankruptcy, since they’ll be accountable for more out-of-pocket expenses now.

        And all those new Medicaid enrolled? They won’t be able to find doctors, or they’ll face very long waiting periods, so they’ll still flood the emergency rooms.

        Watching The One strut in the Rose Garden yesterday made me think we were being subjected to another Mission Accomplished moment.

        Buncha liars

        • Somebody says:

          Well they may file for bankruptcy but their medical and credit card bills are no longer dischargeable so I don’t know why they’d file. The medical bill part was in the ACA and the credit card part was in a different legislation.

          What leads to huge medical bills isn’t necessarily deductibles and co-insurance. Many insurance companies have “gaps” or “holes” in their contracts with providers. The insurance company negotiates a contract with hospital X, but they can’t come to terms on reimbursement for services provided. So in order to resolve that they agree to leave out radiology or pathology or perhaps emergency services. The hospital is still listed as a preferred provider, the patient unwittingly assumes they’re covered and then boom just kidding. Why yes, you’re covered except for this or that service, you’ll have to pay that yourself because your insurance company is going to pay pennies on the dollar for that particular service. The next thing you know if it’s something serious you’re six figures in debt.

          This is a common practice or so I’ve been told. At least that’s what I was told by the state of Florida’s insurance commissioners office. I have friend that was told the same by Georgia’s. In both cases neither office was surprised or gave a shit.

          To my knowledge the ACA doesn’t address this issue at all. In fact I think the practice will become more and more prevalent given the mandates in the ACA. So anybody with a serious illness will probably run a higher risk of finding one of these gaps…….but hey they’ll qualify for free birth control so there is that.

      • gainny says:

        Good estimate.

        http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2594309/President-plans-victory-lap-strong-Obamacare-enrollment-Sebelius-faces-unpopular-law-blank-stare-tough-questions-remain-whos-signing-up.html

        “Numbers from a RAND Corporation study that has been kept under wraps suggest that barely 858,000 previously uninsured Americans – nowhere near 7.1 million – have paid for new policies and joined the ranks of the insured by Monday night.”

        “Aside from the issue of the numbers’ likely decrease when non-paying enrollments are taken into account, administration officials have been coy about the RAND Corporation study, which suggests that relatively few Obamacare enrollees were previously uninsured.”

        “The unpublished RAND study – only the Los Angeles Times has seen it – found that just 23 per cent of new enrollees had no insurance before signing up.  And of those newly insured Americans, just 53 per cent have paid their first month’s premiums.

        “If those numbers hold, the actual net gain of paid policies among Americans who lacked medical insurance in the pre-Obamacare days would be just 858,298.”

        • Somebody says:

          Interesting so that’s a little higher than the 800,000 I gave them credit for above.

          BTW you do know the RAND corporation is actually the government, it’s owned by the government. They’d definitely have access to the numbers though.

          The numbers are curious though like 23% of new enrollees didn’t have insurance previously that would be approximately 1.6 million. If you subtract that 1.6 from the 7.1 million figure given that would mean 5.5 million previously had insurance. 6.3 million in the individual market lost their insurance due to the ACA so where are the rest of the 6.3 million??? That’s a loss of about 800,000 previously insured that apparently didn’t sign up through the website, truly making this a wash or a net gain of about 58,000 people. That is if you believe any of these numbers.

          Seriously though what happened to to the 800,000 that previously had insurance and didn’t make their way to sign up? Are their premiums too high now for them to afford? Were they pushed into Medicaid??

          Oh and if 53% of the 1.6 million haven’t paid that equals 848,000……so we did this for a net gain of 10,000 on one side and a loss of 800,000 from the individual market?? SHIT!

    • Constance says:

      But where did all the trillions of Obama care dollars go? To the media for advertising? To Obama supporters who act as navigators? No wonder they support Obama care.

      • DeniseVB says:

        Not only cost of implementing there’s also all those waivers given to his 1% corporate, political and Hollywood pals. Sounds like the OWS should be on that ?

  8. jeffhas says:

    Come on, does anyone believe someone who lied about “if you like your plan, you can keep your plan, period”… And “if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor, period” is now suddenly telling the truth about 7.1 million sign ups?…

    7.1…. Even the number itself seems ‘just slightly decimal-point-creatively-added’

    This is the mostest-bogus-hocus-pocus administration evah!

    …. And the REALLY sad part is, this is what they are showing to future Dem Administrations as a governing strategy.

    They are making ‘smoke and mirrors’ look like ‘rock and solid’… We are so hosed that our society is actually buying this stuff – the only hope is a full blown depression to knock some generational sense into people…. You haven’t lived like your eating cat food for dinner, until you’ve had cat food for dinner. That just might make you think twice about actual, serious, sh*t.

    • Somebody says:

      I could go either way in but what does it matter we won’t ever know the true numbers.

      For all we know Mickey and Minnie Mouse signed up for Obamacare the last week of March. Reports are that 15% of that 7.1 million haven’t paid their premiums yet, so if you take that off the total you’re back down to 6 million.

      • Lulu says:

        The insurers are saying the non-paying enrollees are more like 40-50%. Shopping cart remorse is what I call it. Also when they sign up for auto-pay you cannot cancel so people are changing banks to stop it. LOL. It is far too expensive for shit insurance and the buyer’s remorse is only going to get worse as people figure out how lousy it is.

        • Lulu says:

          I would not be surprised if a bunch of fake enrollees flooded the exchanges so they could claim 7 million for a spike the football fake news conference for Obama to stem the bleeding was staged. They lie about everything.

          • Somebody says:

            Absolutely, I could totally buy a flood of fake enrollees for the same reason. OFA or whatever iteration it is now has the resources to accomplish just that. Anybody notice the lack of trolls on sites lately? Coincidence? I think not. I know a paid troll that has been MIA for weeks now. I can only presume because she’s been furiously creating accounts on the Obamacare site.

            ***I don’t know for a fact fake accounts were created, I’m only guessing.***

          • Lulu says:

            That is probably why the website crashed. It was full of trolls making fake accounts enrolling for nothing.

          • angienc says:

            Remember how unemployment just so happened to go 1 decimal point under 8% right before the election (7.9)?

            The 7.1 million number has the same “creating counting” method behind it.

          • The Klown says:

            The administration repeatedly claims they don’t know anything except information that makes them look good – and they can’t tell you where or how they got that information either.

            You may have noticed that Obama didn’t take any questions yesterday.

          • angienc says:

            “Obama didn’t take any questions yesterday”

            Um — does he ever?

          • The Klown says:

            How many times have we seen this administration put out numbers that show the economy is growing faster than expected or unemployment is dropping, only to see them revise those numbers weeks or months later?

            For some strange reason, the revisions always show that things are not as good as first reported. They never say “Oh, wait, unemployment was even LOWER than we first thought!”

  9. First thing I thought of when I heard about was the previous asshats “Mission Accomplished”
    PFFFFFFTTTTT on them all. A very dear friend is posting regular updates on his FB page. His premiums doubled, He had a ridiculous charge for routine (formerly covered) lab work. His meds have gone through the roof. And his deductible is so high he might as well not have insurance.
    So on top of the premiums, he has to spend $6000 out of pocket before any coverage really kicks in.
    I am afraid to even think about scheduling an appointment for a physical. Husband hasn’t yet sent me the paperwork to read over to find out what our copays, coinsurance and deductibles are running. I know the premiums went up another 10%.

    • Lulu says:

      All of the blah, blah, blah about the shitty website was to bait and switch away from the REALLY bad stuff which of course is the actual horrendous insurance. It is worse than catastrophic bare bones policies which they have outlawed because it is so bloody expensive. It is extortion for the political cronies of Obama and the Democrats. Legally mandated extortion brought to you by Obamacrats who are running from it. Assholes.

    • DeniseVB says:

      We got to keep our insurance and doctors after being notified in 2010 of how much more that would cost us in co-pays, premiums and deductibles. It’s been rising a small percent every year since then.

      I’m starting to think Obamacare isn’t about health, but about bankrupting it’s citizens.

  10. Lulu says:

    Anyone who dares share their Obamacare Horror Story is terrorized and told to shut up. Brings back bad old 2008 primary memories of the Obama operatives. People who are chronically and terminally ill get HATE mail, bullied on the floor of the US Senate by the damned Democratic Majority Leader, and the fascist media goes after them. I despise these thugs. http://hotair.com/archives/2014/04/01/anti-obamacare-cancer-patient-attacked-by-reid-now-receiving-death-wishes-from-liberals/

    • lyn says:

      Democrats are evil sociopaths.

    • Somebody says:

      It is truly disgusting the way they’re attacking people.

      There are some serious issues with this law. Hell there were serious issues with our health care system before this law and this law didn’t address a lot of the issues.

      Instead of having honest dicussion and debates about how to fix the problems and how to ensure health care for our citizens we have asshats demonizing people who dare to speak up, truly disgusting. Tragically for us these people speaking up are the canaries in the coal mine.

  11. And in other news, SCOTUS throws out the limits for campaign contributions. Need the lawyers to weigh in on what this really means.

    • DeniseVB says:

      I was following this on twitter, not sure what it means either. Looks like it’ll be easier to buy politicians though (legal bribery?).

      • It looks to me as if contributions are limited ONLY for us little people. Soros, the unions, Koch brothers et al can now openly buy elections.
        But what do I know.

        • Lulu says:

          I’m not sure the massive ad campaigns are going to do the Dems any good irregardless of how much money they have. The recent Florida congressional race had the Dem flooded with money and she blanketed the tv with ads. It did not do her a bit of good. She lost anyway. If people are sick of a president and his party there is not much they can do about it. It is too late. The pendulum swings. Obama has been good for making new cynics.

          • piper says:

            Plus she ran more ads 2 to 1 on television than him and bankrolled the libertarian candidate who ended taking almost 5 percent of the votes.

        • Constance says:

          So whats new?

  12. DeniseVB says:

    Yeee Hawwww …… Liberals boycotting sponsors 3….2….1…

  13. helenk3 says:

    http://freebeacon.com/issues/president-obama-overstating-number-of-young-adults-gaining-coverage/

    backtrack lies about number of young adults gaining coverage under obamacare

  14. DeniseVB says:

    Love this stuff ….

  15. SHV says:

    ” Why yes, you’re covered except for this or that service, you’ll have to pay that yourself because your insurance company is going to pay pennies on the dollar for that particular service”
    ********
    Are services provided “out of network” included in the total for maximum out of pocket expenses? Apparently drug costs for medications that aren’t listed as covered by an AHA plan don’t count for max yearly costs.

    • Lulu says:

      I have been saying this for two years and most Progs have called me a liar. They do not know squat about insurance nor especially what was in Obamacare. Out of network means out of payment schedule or out of luck.

    • Somebody says:

      I don’t know exactly how things are phrased in the ACA as far as out of network. I can tell you how it worked prior to the ACA at least with my insurance. We had a separate higher deductible and catastrophic limit for out of network. In other words say your catastrophic in network is $5,000 then out of network it would probably be $7,500 or more.

      Of course meeting that new catastrophic limit doesn’t mean shit. Normally when you hit your catastrophic the insurance company picks up 100% of in network expenses instead of say 80% or 90%…….FYI you still have to pay your co-pays no matter if you’ve spent a million dollars out of pocket and prescriptions don’t count either. Anyway when you hit the catastrophic for out of network they pay 100% of in network rates so you’re still screwed. In case you wanted to know, ballpark at least with my insurance 100% in network paid to out of network equals about 32%. Guess what? You’re on the hook for the rest, welcome to serious debt!

      • SHV says:

        “Guess what? You’re on the hook for the rest”
        ****
        Six years ago, I got caught in an insurance company catch 22. Surgeon is in network, hospital, anesthesia, radiology, etc. not in network. Insurance covered ~$2.97 out of $50,000.

    • abc says:

      No, they are not. The out of pocket max for out of network services is UNLIMITED.

  16. The Klown says:
    • The Klown says:

      It’s really not as bad as it sounds. The part they struck down was a limit on the amount you can give to each candidate combined. There is still a limit to how much you can give to any one candidate.

  17. The Klown says:

    FYI:

  18. helenk3 says:

    http://thefederalist.com/2014/04/01/how-this-one-magic-number-saved-obamacare/

    all the backtrack changes to obamacare are like using bumper stickers to hold a jalopy together

  19. DeniseVB says:

    Looks like Facebook went all changey again. I like it, bigger pictures and fonts 🙂 It also looks like reading a blog full of twitter posts. So I’m testing this out….I clicked on the timestamp and it gave me this link……let’s see what happens after I post it, as Pelosi would say …..

  20. helenk3 says:

    http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/patrick-goodenough/obama-wants-pay-33-more-un-and-other-int-l-groups

    isn’t this just peachy
    backtrack wants US to pay 33% more to UN and other international groups

    • DandyTIger says:

      Well, when you count the elves, trolls, hobbits, and such, the population can get up there quickly. Wait, there are laser rounds? Want.

  21. The Klown says:
    • Lulu says:

      And the Nevada exchange contractor and the state of Nevada gets sued. Class action suits are always so much fun. Everyone in the state can be a class action member eventually. http://lasvegas.cbslocal.com/2014/04/02/first-class-action-lawsuit-filed-against-nevada-obamacare-exchange/
      “The lawsuit filed in U.S. District Court of Nevada on Tuesday alleges gross negligence and failure to do due diligence against the state of Nevada, the Silver State Health Insurance Exchange (which runs Nevada Health Link), and the company that won the contract to build the exchange, Xerox.”
      “Attorney Matthew Callister told the Review-Journal that about 40 people had called saying they had also paid their insurance premiums but have no coverage. As of last week, the Nevada Health Link had a “pends” list totaling more than 10,500 people still without coverage.”

  22. The Klown says:

    This may be the dumbest thing that Alex Pareen has ever written:

    Ted Cruz’s absurd book deal is proof his scam is working

    Since he became a senator, Ted Cruz has annoyed many of his colleagues with his grandstanding, disrespect for comity, and his outright sabotage of various Republican legislative strategies, from his epic anti-Obamacare fake filibuster to his undermining Speaker John Boehner on immigration. All of those things have made Ted Cruz a superstar among the conservative grassroots. And now he is beginning to reap his rewards, starting with a ridiculous $1.5 million book deal from HarperCollins. His con is working.

    This is the payoff. It’s been obvious since he took office that Ted Cruz has little interest in traditional “accomplishments” in the legislative sense. Cruz’s filibuster did nothing, in terms of government debt or Obamacare. But Ted Cruz made bank, picking up nearly $2 million in donations in the third quarter of 2013. This strategy has annoyed many of his fellow Republicans, who believe that the grassroots shouldn’t be riled up purely for personal gain, but only in order to further the interests of the GOP’s monied backers.

    The size of Cruz’s advance should in fact be somewhat comforting to liberals, as it confirms the essential harmlessness of Cruz. Serious politicians with designs on the presidency get book advances in the six figures. A million-dollar advance says “celebrity.” Conservative celebrities are a sort of tribal marker — they are adored by their fans to the degree that they piss off the opposing side, and for little else. Cruz’s advance, as many have already noted, is larger even than Sarah Palin’s. Sarah Palin’s $1.25 million advance was not an indicator of electoral credibility, and neither is Cruz’s. Cruz and Palin are famous personalities, and heroes to those for whom being a wingnut is a lifestyle choice. Neither has any crossover appeal.

    So go ahead and cheer Ted Cruz’s absurd advance. As I said, he’s no threat. The man doesn’t care about advancing conservatism, he cares mainly about exploiting conservatism to make a killing. It is the respectable Republicans who actually apply themselves to the cause of gutting the safety net and so on. Cruz is content to shout nonsense for applause. On the road to his payday he’s even sabotaged his own party; both by forcing other senators further to the right, highlighting the unappealing-to-most extremism of modern conservatism, and by making a number of potentially effective Republican politicians (hello, Marco Rubio) look like RINOs in the eyes of the fickle movement.

    Cruz is smart enough to know that there is a tremendous upside, and little downside, in spending a term in office doing nothing but irritating liberals and “establishment” Republicans. Soon we’ll see if he’s smart enough to understand that his post-Senate career will be professional conservative bomb-thrower, and not president of the United States.

    I’d make a full post out of it but mom wants to go to Walmart.

    • Lulu says:

      Jealousy is always ugly and frequently ridiculous. Cruz speaks in complete paragraphs without notes usually. He probably will write an outline and dictate it in six weeks. He has years of practice writing briefs and winning with them. Pareen is a little “writer” who works for Salon, not the New Yorker, or even a wire service. What really chaps his ass is that it is a major publisher who ponied up because they recognize real talent potential and it isn’t him.

    • 49erDweet says:

      Yes, “Ted Cruz is having phenomenal successes and that proves he’s really, really failing”. Yup. Makes sense to me.

    • piper says:

      The nerve of Cru to write his own book. Couldn’t he get Bill the rich bomber to write his book?

    • 49erDweet says:

      Hope you remember to pickup more cat food………..

    • The Klown says:

      In the comments at Salon:

      myiq2xu 1 hour ago

      Sense.

      This article makes none.


      Thenorthpoe 59 minutes ago

      Too many words, and not enough pictures of jesus riding dinosaurs right?


      myiq2xu just now

      If you are one of those people who thinks Jesus rode a dinosaur then I pity you for your lack of information.

      All the dinosaurs died because Noah didn’t take them on the Ark. Jesus came later.

      • DandyTIger says:

        LOL That reply wins the internets.

        • The Klown says:

          It gets better:

          Boca Bill 1 hour ago

          @myiq2xu @Thenorthpoe Seriously? I am trying to figure out if your joking. It is so hard to tell these days.

          Take with you seven pairs of every kind of clean animal, a male and its mate, and one pair of every kind of unclean animal, a male and its mate. – Genesis

          If Noah left out the dinosaurs then Noah disobeyed God and the Bible is wrong.


          myiq2xu 1 minute ago

          @Boca Bill @myiq2xu@Thenorthpoe He left out the unicorns too.

  23. helenk3 says:

    he says what we think

  24. votermom says:

  25. The Klown says:
  26. votermom says:

    Please tell me this is a late April Fools Day gag

  27. helenk3 says:

    Just heard the most dumb statement from a government worker ever.
    mike morrell says he listened more to the CIA analysts then the CIA chief on the ground in Benghazi. Then he says the CIA analysts were not given all the facts to make conclusions.
    That is like asking a mechanic what is wrong with your car and not telling him the motor has been taken out of it
    Is it just me?

  28. Jesus Christ! Another shooter at Ft Hood. This is what comes of not having swiftly executed that bastard Hadal Nissa
    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/04/02/shooting-with-casualties-reported-at-ft-hood/

  29. mothy67 says:

    I cannot quit my plan. I paid for March 8 weeks later I have recieved zip from insurance company. I went out of my mind trying to find a new doctor turns out he is with my insurance but not my plan. Told I have coverage . Maybe I ‘ll check myself into a very expensive mental health facility on my nonexistant health insurance. My mother was in charge of the department for mental health until she retired with the same insurance company.. I can play them. Very nice place in the middle of PA with lakes and cabins. They accept some state funding so they have to keep “county beds” require a direct referral which I can get. 28 days of mountain air . You share a cabin for a month with your own room. Cost is absurd. If i do not get a straight answer tomorrow from insurance company I am checking in. When one goes to a mental health retreat is it appropriate to tip the guy who brings my bags to the cabin?

  30. The Klown says:

    This must be a WTF Wednesday. Check out the email I reply I just received from Twitter:

    Hello,

    Twitter has spam systems that review account behavior and automatically suspend users who appear to be engaging in spam behavior. It looks like a disproportionately large number of users, including ones you followed, @replied, added to your lists or whose tweets you favorited, have chosen to either block your account or report it as spam.

    Your account is now unsuspended. Please make sure you review the following help pages:

    • The Twitter Rules: https://support.twitter.com/articles/18311-the-twitter-rules
    • Following Limits and Best Practices: https://support.twitter.com/articles/68916-following-rules-and-best-practices
    • Automation Rules and Best Practices: https://support.twitter.com/articles/76915-automation-rules-and-best-practices

    Please note that It may take an hour or so for your follower and following numbers to return to normal. Further violations may result in permanent suspension.
    Thanks,

    Twitter Support
    http://support.twitter.com

    This is for my original account. The reply was to a very old email inquiry asking for a specific description of what I did to get permanently suspended.

    • WMCB says:

      You need to tweet more. It’s an algorithmic thing, and they go by proportion. Even if you are not making negative comments or getting spam blocked that often, what matters is what percentage of your tweets it is. Make lots and lots more innocuous tweets. Then even if some dicks decide to spam block you, it’s only a small percentage of your total tweets.

      Tweet and @reply more.

      • The Klown says:

        I have over 14k tweets.

        • 49erDweet says:

          How many of those were in the original account, though?

          • 49erDweet says:

            Weird. Them progs are sure “sensitive” about actually communicating with “the others”. OK to rant and slime, but heaven forbid an actual response that twists their mental panties in a wad. Then it’s time to play the “brute” card. You have far more patience than I.
            In my book all the remote holding compounds DHS controls are ultimately for suddenly disillusioned progs, not me. I have too many methods of protecting myself and mine to make me a worthwhile primary target. Or, I could be making all that up. 🙂

          • The Klown says:

            Scroll thru my tweets and tell what I said that deserved a suspension.

          • 49erDweet says:

            I’ve seen some of them before. You cut bs-ers down to size, and that offends the delicate sensitivities of progs, who can only peacefully exist in a supportive atmosphere.
            Because logic sucks, in their definition you are “offensive”. Ergo, they run to mama and complain.
            You are doing the equivalent of “missionary dating”. Most progs aren’t interested in learning the error of their logic. Because they are emotional, not logical. Your tweets are sharp but fair, IMO, but my opinion doesn’t count.
            The problem is lack of accountability within TW.

          • 49erDweet says:

            (Reply delayed due to BotW meltdown).

    • mothy67 says:

      Have you asked them for a review? I have done some freelance work going through twitter postings for companies. Most boring job ever. Read at least 100,000 tweets and only twice did I feel the need to report. If I were you I’d file a lawsuit. Most likely you would get no where but the lawyers would have to respond and they will realize the politics of twitter place them dancing near a precipice. They are a billion dollar company. POST and repost your dismisdive letter. Hit every site you know and ask others to repost. Keep doing it. Make some noise. Party Unity My Ass started with a few but grew the Tea Party had even less but somehow congealed into a force.

  31. The Klown says:

    WTF?

  32. mothy67 says:

    I request that you add twitchy to your blog roll. I greet each day at the crack of noon with a cup of java and The Crawdad Hole. After catching up I usually hit Gay Patriot/Althouse/legal insurrection/BIg government/Hillaryis44 Think twitchy has earned it. It is unlawful for your readers not to delve into the puddle that is Cher.

  33. The Klown says:

    This video was staged:

  34. Somebody says:

    I think I found Ivan Lopez the Ft. Hood shooter from a profile a couple of years ago, but would someone be posted at Ft. Hood that long? This profile was in 2010.
    http://m.kdhnews.com/gallery/featured/fort-hood-herald-in-review/collection_6f4624e4-e578-11e1-ba33-0019bb30f31a.html?mode=jqm

  35. mothy67 says:

    Bwahahahaha
    I just got my messages from landline. After I informed the last customer service representitive that I too was recording the conversation in conjunction with several students from the University of Pittsburgh journalism school. Seems my March payment will be applied to April and I can cancel at any time. Wonder if Pitt even has a journalism school.

    • Lulu says:

      The class action suit filed this week against the state of Nevada and Xerox, the exchange contractor there, may have something to do with it. People there have almost the same problems you do except they had to go to the hospital or can’t get their cancer treatment. Class action suits means the shit is getting real. They can’t blow people off any longer as the lawyers are seeing damages.

    • votermom says:

      Mothy, if you can cancel – look into Health Sharing Ministries.
      This article talks about them & other strategies for opting out of Obamahell
      http://thefederalist.com/2013/12/04/opt-obamacare/

  36. DandyTIger says:

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