Lies and Liars

The Obama White House lied to us. Here’s the proof:

smoking gun

Here’s what happened. The Obama/Clinton Middle East foreign policy resulted in the debacle in Benghazi. Even worse (from the White House standpoint) was that we were less than two months out from his reelection. That would be embarrassing for any administration, but because of the failure of his domestic policies Obama had made foreign policy one of the centerpieces of his campaign.

He said that Osama bin Laden was dead (he was)and al Quada was (supposedly) on the run. But if al Quada made an organized attack on our Benghazi consulate and killed four of our people that would certainly contradict the official story. Not only that, but the reason that Libya was filled with terrorists was because of a US-sponsored coup that had overthrown Daffy Khadaffi. The so-called “Arab Spring” was turning into a major clusterfuck.

So the White House did what they do best – they made up a lie. The political operatives overruled the professionals in the State Department and our intelligence agencies, and they cooked up the story that what happened in Benghazi was part of a spontaneous protest over some obscure YouTube video. Then they spread that story to their friends and family in the media.

It worked, for a while. The lie served its purpose and helped Obama get reelected. But like a dirty diaper, the stench could not be hidden forever. So they lied some more. Now finally, at last, the truth is being revealed.

Even MSNBC admitted this was bad:

MSNBC host Alex Wagner — who for months, if not years, routinely denied there was anything to Republican allegations of a White House coverup on Benghazi — now admits there may actually be a problem with the Obama administration’s response to the 2012 attack.

“There probably is something for Republicans to complain about,” she said regarding Benghazi, “for the American public to perhaps be distressed or dismayed about.”

Bet everything you own on the Cubs to win the World Series, because Hell has officially frozen over.

Here’s how lies get made:


I’ll let Charles have the final word:

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92 Responses to Lies and Liars

  1. The Klown says:

    Yours truly created the #BenghaziDeniers hashtag. Help make it go viral.

  2. The Klown says:

    If you want all the down and dirty details of the Benghazi cover-up, Sharyl Attkisson has the details.

    • Lulu says:

      Wait until the arms dealing with Turkey as middleman for Syrian rebels is unwound. Take a dead dictator’s arms and ship them, using a corrupt Turkish PM, to terrorists sounds good at a college freshman level bull shit session in the White House but pulling it off is another thing. Follow the money. Who got paid?

  3. Lulu says:

    When is CBS going to fire that MF’er prezzie of news division shutting up Attkisson for his brother in the WH writing these lies covering up MURDERS? We watch miserable senile old farts being purged from their own property for saying stupid shit in private, heads of non-profit tech purged from an entire economic sector for making a personal donation YEARS ago, but a NEWS division chief assisting his brother in obstructing justice gets to keep his gig. Purge him CBS. Purge him now or forever give up the right to label what you do as journalism.

    • The Klown says:

      Cops and crooks aren’t supposed to hang out together.

      • Lulu says:

        Get CBS’s emails. Drag them through the mud Issa. I think a lot of Attkisson’s book is supposed to intersect the corporate, government, corruption, nepotism, conspiracy stuff. The NY corporate media/DC theft and murder axis is a sewer. Some in the media are getting nervous.

        • Constance says:

          I hope Attkisson has security guys with her 24/7. Shes working at exposing murderers.

  4. The Klown says:
    • Lulu says:

      I don’t think she is going to run for many reasons. But she is having a shit ton of fun with payback.

    • Constance says:

      She could run as an independent and knee cap the entire two party system. She would be my hero if she took that route.

    • swanspirit says:

      I don’t think she will run either . What a payback that would be .

      • DeniseVB says:

        If not Hillary, who would the Dems run ? The pre-pre-pre- 2016 names I’m seeing are not that impressive (to me anyhow). Remember, at this point in 2006, Hill was the frontrunner and Obama didn’t even make the early cuts.

        I think she’ll hang in there long enough to promote her book.

        • freedomfairy01 says:

          Saw my first-ever “Elixabeth Warren 2016” “A woman’s Place is in the White House” bumper sticker today. Answer your question? Another puppet with ZERO credentials is being promoted to be the first woman “Preezy.” PERFECT for an Obama clone follow-up. AND MY GOD! She is SOOOOOOO much younger the HRC…like, bu 2 years or something. As they used to say “gag me with a spoon.” Geesh.

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  6. angienc says:

    Don’t forget another intricate piece of the story — not only did the WH lie (which we knew), not only did the MSM help him lie, Obama and the MSM turned the story around and *blamed* Romney (who was RIGHT — again) for the “timing” of his press conference and said *he* was “politicizing the death of 4 Americans.” (i.e., their typical projection).

  7. The Klown says:

    Hell has officially frozen over:

  8. The Klown says:
  9. helenk3 says:

    FOX has the hearing on Benghazi on now

  10. elliesmom says:

    One of things going through my mind repeatedly is if Nixon had this kind of relationship with the press, Watergate would truly have been a third rate burglary, the cover-up a non-story, and he never would have had to resign.

    • DandyTIger says:

      That’s something we said early on in this story, what if watergate happened now, what would have been the result. It effectively did, and we saw the result. This final disclosure is great to see, but to late to have any real effect I fear. Lesson learned: do your watergates, whatever it takes to win politically, if you’re ever caught, it won’t be such a big deal.

  11. helenk3 says:

    here is a link to watch the Benghazi on c-span

  12. foxyladi14 says:

    Thanks Helen 🙂

  13. DandyTIger says:

    This is the tip if the iceberg. As others mentioned above, what was Stevens doing there? Arms trade? Where was Obama? Where was Hillary? There’s more there.

    • Mary says:

      I recall reporting that Stevens had met with the Turkish representative right before the attack, and that Turkey was the conduit to move the weapons to Syria.

      Lotta stuff here. Much worse than Iran-Contra.

  14. DandyTIger says:

    RIP Al Feldstein (Mad Magazine).

  15. helenk3 says:

    watching the democrats on this panel about Benghazi trying to change the subject makes me ashamed that I was ever a democrat. they disrespect themselves , congress and the American people by failing to do their job

  16. helenk3 says:

    a short break just to shake heads i

  17. 49erDweet says:

    I take a different tack. It should be expected an administration would do what Teh Won’s did. Yes, prosecute and fix the blame, etc., but that’s what politicians do so not that big a deal.
    The truly BAD part goes back to 2007 when Teh Media rolled over for Teh Won. The “rollover” was such a massive public failure that there needs to be a super-massive penalty and property right’s forfeiture that follows.
    In my view congress needs to strip them of all their publicly licensed benefits and outlets. Take their stations completely away from them. No matter how each station is licensed. The rollover networks and their affiliates actually need to be banned, broken up and given to new owners under a competitive bidding process, and those new owners permitted/encouraged to reform networks and affiliations under new and different rules and structures. All old owners should be permanently banned for their lifetimes from participating in on the air media. The rationale is if media had done it’s job between 2007 and 2011, the Benghazi coverup would’ve never flown. They didn’t, so they lose everything. Period.
    If congress doesn’t do something like this, it will happen again and again and again………..

    • Somebody says:

      My gut tells me Boehner doesn’t want a select committee, a special prosecutor, or any kind of real in depth investigation. I think he was aware of whatever was truly going on in Benghazi and the real reason Stevens was there. I think he was briefed and at least had given his tacit approval if not full approval. I think this is very much like Pelosi and the torture. In fact I think there are probably quite a few on both sides knee deep in this.

      That’s one of the reasons I think this whole thing won’t go anywhere. It’s simply election year bluster and blow. Now if there was a significant change in house leadership then you might see a real investigation. One thing for sure if it did entangle some R’s at least we’d have a much more curious media.

      • leslie says:

        yes to all the ^above^

      • elliesmom says:

        A question to ask, though, is if Hillary Clinton had become POTUS instead, and the same scenario had played out, would the press had covered it up for her? I think not.. I think this is a pass uniquely given to Obama, not to the Democrats in general. Right now any criticism of the Democrats is implicitly if not explicitly seen as criticism of him.

  18. helenk3 says:

    third day of wind down here. now this is getting old. enough is enough

    • helenk3 says:

      have a small amount of roof damage. neighbors have some too. many people here saying they never saw winds like these in this city

  19. The Klown says:

    Carney Can’t Answer Why Supposed Non-Beghazi Email Was In Benghazi FOIA:

  20. The Klown says:

    NBC’s David Gregory Puzzled That Obama W.H. Resisted Releasing Benghazi Emails:

  21. The Klown says:
    • 49erDweet says:

      Denial R Fun!
      At first it’s probably “not relevant” the cycles of a fecund woman abruptly cease after a romantic interlude, but eventually facts will need to be faced.

  22. DandyTIger says:

    Not a single Obot I know has heard anything about this story. We don’t call them zombies for nothing.

  23. gram cracker says:

    For what it is worth (nothing) here is my armchair analysis of part of what was going on in Benghazi that cost Ambassador Stevens and the three others their lives on the night of Sept. 11, 2012.

    Benghazi is the Obama & Hillary misadministration’s Iran Contra. After offing Daffy Khadaffi during the “Springtime for Arabs” operation they realized, oops!, there are a lot of over-the-shoulder rocket launchers and other munitions on the loose that we sure don’t want al-Qaeda while “on the run” running over to Libya to scoop up.

    What to do? Let’s do a “Fast & Furious” type operation between Libya and Syria and solve our two supply and demand issues. Saudi Arabia is pushing the US to help the Syrian rebels. We’ll get them to bankroll the CIA’s purchase of loose weapons in Libya and shipment to Turkey, where they can then be slipped over the border to arm the rebels in Syria.

    Stevens appears to have played a dual role as Ambassador and in effect covert CIA agent middleman.

    According to… Stevens’ top deputy in Libya, whistleblower Greg Hicks, Amb. Chris Stevens was at the poorly secured State Department facility in that city that day at least in part because Secretary of State Hillary Clinton wanted to convert the department compound there into a permanent outpost and department officials wanted her to be able to announce this was the case when she made a planned visit to Libya in December 2012.

    Given that she was planning to leave the State Department after 2012, a trip to Libya in December of last year (2012) to announce that the U.S. had established a permanent diplomatic presence in Benghazi–the city in which the Obama administration had anchored its support for anti-Qaddafi Libyan revolutionaries–could have been a triumphant capstone to Clinton’s own diplomatic career.

    “According to [Amb.] Chris [Stevens], Secretary Clinton wanted Benghazi converted into a permanent constituent post,” said Hicks. “Timing for this decision was important. Chris needed to report before September 30th, the end of the fiscal year, on the physical—the political and security environment in Benghazi to support an action memo to convert Benghazi from a temporary facility to a permanent facility.

    • Somebody says:

      I agree with you for the most part Gram. I think whatever was going on over there is pretty close to an Iran-Contra type operation. Who knows if things really heat up maybe we’ll have another Ollie North come forward and fall on his sword. Except obviously in this case it would be a CIA operative or state department employee. As a side note I fully expect Lois Lerner to end up being the IRS scandal Ollie North.

      I do quibble a bit about Al Qaeda playing into the equation…..because from what I understand most of the Syrian rebels that were being armed were Al Qaeda. There is a strong Al Qaeda presence in Libya, but we call them freedom fighters and/or rebels when they’re doing our bidding. A rose by any other name is still a rose. This administration seems to cozy up to unsavory types to do their dirty work. Although they’re certainly not the first administration to do that and most likely won’t be the last to do it, sadly.

      Now the Clinton angle and the triumphant trip to Benghazi in December 2012 is quite interesting indeed.

  24. gram cracker says:

    And it gets worse…
    At the same hearing, Republican members asked Hicks and Eric Nordstrom, who had been the regional security officer (the State Department’s top onsite security official) at the U.S. Embassy in Libya until July 26, 2012, whether the State Department’s Benghazi compound, where Amb. Stevens was killed on Sept. 1, 2012, met the department’s Overseas Security Policy Board (OSBP) standards. Nordstrom noted that they did not meet those standards or the standards of the Secure Embassy Construction and Counterterrorism Act of 1999 (SECCA)—and that only Secretary Clinton had the authority to send diplomats to a facility that did not meet the SECCA standards.

    Rep. Gowdy said: “So, we are able to show that in part he went to Benghazi because of Secretary Clinton. In part, Benghazi was still open despite the fact it was below specs because of Secretary Clinton.”

    When Clinton visited Libya in October 2011, according to the State Department’s Bureau of Diplomatic Security, the U.S. Defense Department prepositioned assets off the coast of Libya in case it needed to rescue her.

  25. mothy67 says:

    Obot former friends claim this is a non story. Four dead Americans and blatant lying? Clippers owner is relevant? Final nail in the coffin was when they followed pelosi’s lead and wanted to talk min wage. All I said was if you compare the value of 1968 to todays min wage you also have to include additional support not available back then Free school lunches and breakfast, the earned income credit, subsidized housing utilities and child care, SNAP provisions. Well I am a FOX watching racist self hating (muttered word). BWAHAHAHA.

    • Propertius says:

      The free breakfast and lunch programs were both established by the Child Nutrition Act of 1966, so that support was certainly available (and better funded) in 1968. The Food Stamp Program (later renamed SNAP) has a longer history, having first been enacted as a temporary measure during FDR’s administration, allowed to lapse, temporarily reauthorized in 1959, renewed in 1962, and made permanent in 1965. Section 8 housing assistance dates from 1937. The program has been repeatedly amended since then, but it’s nearly 80 years old at this point. The first Federal child care program dates from 1933 (the WPA Emergency Nursery Program). It was augmented in 1942 to provide child care assistance to women war workers. This program, of course, lapsed at the end of the war. One could argue that Head Start (1965) constitutes in part subsidized day care, but the first explicit attempt to provide such care was the Comprehensive Child Care Act of 1971, initially supported by President Nixon but eventually vetoed by him.The current subsidies date from 1974 and 1981 (either Nixon or Ford, I can’t find the exact enactment date for the 1974 legislation and Reagan administrations, respectively). You get a 1/2 point for that, because there was no explicit subsidy in place in 1968 other than Head Start.

      The EITC does indeed date from the Ford Administration. I suppose 1.5 out of 4 ain’t bad.

      • mothy67 says:

        OK I was wrong. Were the programs as far eaching as they are today? And how does a minimum wage worker with a family of three compare to a family of the same size right above the cut off for aid. If I am not mistaken the EIC has grown significantly. I think it is a good program. If the minimum wage were to be raised to 10.10 might it not push some of those getting benefits off those?

    • 49erDweet says:

      er…………we had free school lunches back in the late 40’s, mothy.

      • mothy67 says:

        My bad. I could not imagine trying to exist on those wages but I was looking at from a former small business owners position. If the wage goes up those earning more through merit or nature of the job would also deserve a proportionate increase. I would be forced to raise prices or close. I paid no one 7.25 an hour.

        • 49erDweet says:

          Everything is relative. When gas cost 39.9¢ a gallon for premium, milk 28¢ a gallon, bread 14¢ a loaf and rent is $75 a month, wages don’t need to be as high.

          • mothy67 says:

            Agreed but increased labor becomes an increase in prices. Heard some politician say that raising prices was just greed on the part of companies. Really? Perhaps a large retailer can eat the cost but a small business cannot. 10 employees working 40 hours/wk. Make it easy say its a 4,000 increase in labor. If I still had the place I would have to close. Sorry not worth staying open. Would kill a lot of small businesses. End result all corporate or very high end.

  26. helenk3 says:

    botox and koolaid are really bad for the brain

  27. swanspirit says:

    OT 55 schools are being investigated over their handling of sexual abuse complaints under Title IX, the Education Department announced on Thursday.
    In other words , they handle sexual assault cases by sweeping them under the rug . These must be the schools with the biggest brooms .
    Look at that list . Mostly left leaning , Ivy League and “Progressive” schools . If the Republicans are accused of waging a war on women , wtf is this ? Covert Ops? On the bright side , I now have a handy dandy list of schools for granddaughter , NOT to attend .

    The schools being investigated are:

    •Arizona State University

    •Butte-Glen Community College District

    •Occidental College

    •University of California at Berkeley

    •University of Southern California

    •Regis University

    •University of Colorado at Boulder

    •University of Colorado at Denver

    •University of Denver

    •University of Connecticut

    •Catholic University of America

    •Florida State University

    •Emory University

    •University of Hawaii at Manoa

    •University of Idaho

    •Knox College

    •University of Chicago

    •Indiana University-Bloomington

    •Vincennes University

    •Amherst College

    •Boston University

    •Emerson College

    •Harvard College

    •Harvard University Law School

    •University of Massachusetts at Amherst

    •Frostburg State University

    •Michigan State University

    •University of Michigan at Ann Arbor

    •Guilford College

    •University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill

    •Minot State University

    •Dartmouth College

    •Princeton University

    •CUNY Hunter College

    •Hobart and William Smith Colleges

    •Sarah Lawrence College

    •SUNY at Binghamton

    •Denison University

    •Ohio State University

    •Wittenberg University

    •Oklahoma State University

    •Carnegie Mellon University

    •Franklin and Marshall College

    •Pennsylvania State University

    •Swarthmore College

    •Temple University

    •Vanderbilt University

    •Southern Methodist University

    •The University of Texas Pan-American

    •College of William and Mary

    •University of Virginia

    •Washington State University

    •University of Wisconsin at Whitewater

    •Bethany College

    •West Virginia School of Osteopathic Medicine

    • DeniseVB says:

      Whew, my son’s school is not on that list, but most of the schools that turned him down are. /snork

    • 49erDweet says:

      I’m gonna not jump on that list as being accurate right now. Methinks the administration is trying to divert attention from……Benghazi, but I could be wrong. Anyway, allegations are not yet proof of malfeasance.

      • swanspirit says:

        Right now , they are only under investigation , and some schools deny any allegations of wrongdoing , but for that many schools to require investigation for not following through for women , is sad . Women report sexual assault , little to nothing happens . Because shutup??

        • 49erDweet says:

          “little to nothing happens”
          Absent the rare corroborating witness or physical evidence, most allegations are reduced to “she said, he said”, which generally fails to satisfy the pesky ‘beyond a reasonable doubt’ requirement. It’s obviously “not fair” but that’s the reason I taught my daughter the gonad crush maneuver, which when done properly allows at least a 15 minute escape and evasion window.

    • mothy67 says:

      I attended two of the schools on the list(Temple and Hunter College). Lived on Temples campus for one year. Guess a lot can change in 20 plus years but I do not recall a culture that was conducive to that type of behaviour. I am inclined to belive their maybe some truth but the announcement of an investigation screams squirrel. also an allegation is just that why diminosh a schools rep before a finding?

    • elliesmom says:

      I belong to the Society of Women Engineers. We do a lot of outreach to young women. While the field may not be as welcoming to women as we would like it to be, the larger problem is getting women to major in the STEM fields to begin with. A female high school student with a 90 average in an advanced math class doesn’t believe she’s good enough in math to major in engineering, but a male student with an 85 average happily applies and gets in. She would get in, too, and would probably be offered a scholarship, but she’s convinced she’d be rejected. When I assigned engineering projects in my high school physics classes, I deliberately set up all-girl teams. They couldn’t defer to the boys, and most years a girls’ team won. Surprised the hell out of themselves. One of the mistakes teachers make when they are trying to run a non-sexist class in any field is to make every group evenly divided male and female. In a science class it means all of the girls learn to write great lab reports, and the boys get to use all of the lab equipment. When the group is single sex, they all have to learn to do it all. If I did that for the first half of the year, I could mix it up for the second half, and the girls would demand their hands-on lab time because they had discovered they liked it. I love that so many of my young women went into math and science, but it takes a lot of effort to make it happen. At no time did my efforts take anything away from the encouragement the boys got. It’s not a zero sum game, They just had some more competition.

      • helenk3 says:

        thank you for taking the time to teach girls they are capable of more then they thought they were. They do not get that enough and do cheat themselves

  28. The Klown says:
  29. The Klown says:

    Dude, WWII was like a 100 years ago: Eleanor Holmes Norton Gets Her Centuries Wrong:

  30. The Klown says:

    MUST SEE: Rep. Jason Chaffetz Explodes in Benghazi Hearing:

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